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what the fuck is wrong with you people investing? how the fuck do you think this will ever be adopted technology?

>> No.17019248

>>17019235
If you're not a shill, because I doubt Kleros even has a white paper, it is 100% copy and pasted some forgotten vaporware shitcoin from 2018

>> No.17019252

>>17019235
the only people believing that are the ones getting scammed by the shills

>> No.17019260

>>17019235
muh we will be judges in future, take my money now!!!

>> No.17019262

>>17019235
YOU OWN COIN YOU MAKE CHOICES FOR ALL JUROROS IN TH WORLD!!!!!!!
JUROROS > SOROS
What no understand yes?

>> No.17019266

>>17019248
white paper is literally on the front page of their site
this shit is so fucking stupid to even hypothetically imagine, all of their "hype" seem to come from vitalik mentioning them in one slide of one presentation he did a year ago
this is unironically beyond stupid

>> No.17019278

>>17019266
JUROROS > SOROS!

What no understand yes?

>> No.17019282
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17019282

Cope seething faggots.

>> No.17019284

>>17019235
Without a system like Kleros how will decentralized applications manage arbitration disputes?
I assume you are familiar with the oracle problem. There are problems that can not be solved algorithmically and will need human input. How can this human input be facilitated without a crypto-incentivized game theoretical platform?

>> No.17019287

>>17019235
Nobody actually thinks that you idiot. It's a great way to make some quick cash off of the fucking idiots that inhabit this board.

>> No.17019288
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17019288

JUROROS > SOROS!
What no understand yes?

>> No.17019293

Kleros kind of has the wrong idea of what the future will of law will look like but there might still be some gains. The future won't have Jurors, lawyers or whatever crap else there is. It will have
>Video camera's
>Digital ID'ing for on- and offline
>24/7 tracking
>Coded laws.
Ai will take care of the rest. Blockchain is the dystopian nightmare we were all waiting for.
Why would you need lawyers and judges when you will be recorded, video taped and tracked everywhere you go at all times? All evidence will be immutably available for an AI to read trough it and pass verdict. There will be no more obfuscation of the facts. Everything will be out there bright as day. There might be a new job which is some type of enforcer. Which will basically just be a guy that shouts at you for doing something and twisting your balls around a little to make you comply with this dystopian nightmare.

Kleros is worth $0 though.

>> No.17019299

>>17019293
Based.

>> No.17019302

>>17019282
thanks for that
>>17019284
decentralized arbitration is such a far-fetched ideal it's likely we don't even begin to see practical problems for 10+ years, at which point the problem (and solution) would have evolved
>>17019287
thanks bro but you forgot to change your ip after >>17019252
>>17019288
based

>> No.17019303

>>17019284
It can and will be solved. Kleros is litterly a piece of shit worth absolutely fuck all.

>> No.17019336

Sclerosis coin. It will cripple you. Same for UniBrow pajeet coin and BSV scam coin

>> No.17019346

>>17019302
It won't be adopted tomorrow, but it won't be 10+ years either. Some of the use cases (TCRs) are already valid today.
>>17019303
Low IQ. Can't even respond to the question at hand.

>> No.17019370

>>17019346
>Some of the use cases (TCRs) are already valid today.
i can see them being "valid", but that's a long way off them being applicable, practical and being adopted. is there something about TCRs i'm missing (genuinely curious)?

>> No.17019393

>>17019346
You're fucking lucky this is crypto son. I'd be shorting the shit out of it if it was not.

>> No.17019417

What incentives 'juror' have to stay moral?

I understand that ChainLink deals with truth. Kleros tries to make arbiters act 'non-crooked' way but I can't see the game theoretical robustness of its court system.

>> No.17019419

Shittokens are always hilarious

>> No.17019427
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17019427

>>17019235
Realistically, on pure speculation, how high can it go?

>> No.17019455

Just like blockchain based decentralised currency will be mandatory in future, there will be requirement of decentralised internet in future which would be secure , maintain privacy & restriction free, one of the firm working on this technology is Tachyon protocol which is powered by Vsystem & X-vpn they have good product which is 200 percent faster & fully private internet.

>> No.17019489

>>17019427
depends entirely how stupid people are, i can't imagine this ever overtaking xrp

>> No.17019506
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>>17019489
I just wanted top 100, what rank can this possibly go to...

>> No.17019557

>>17019235
Did you check out the other coin, Unibright?

>> No.17019570

>>17019370
>but that's a long way off them being applicable, practical and being adopted
ethfinex was using Kleros' TCR to decide on which tokens to support. They are rebranding and not adding new tokens atm so I'm not going to argue that counts as adoption. It's still really early days.
>is there something about TCRs i'm missing
It's not a game-changing new tech but it is a sign of things to come. Algorithmic intelligence can solve a lot of problems, but some require human intelligence. Curation is something humans will be better at for a long time, so it makes sense it is one of the first active use cases.
Background reading on the problem: https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/04/03/collusion.html
>>17019393
So wait for a lending platform to add Kleros and short it, I don't care. If you know of a lending platform that does p2p lending on ERC20s with collateral, I'll lend you some of mine to short with.
>>17019417
>What incentives 'juror' have to stay moral?
Exactly the same incentives as chainlink nodes: cryptographic game theory.
What ensures a link node provides an honest answer? The node operator knows if he lies he will be an outlier and his stake will be slashed, so it is in his best interests to act honestly. The same applies to Kleros but with humans instead of node operators.
There is a reason anons are so excited by it. LINK/PNK combined solve the oracle problem entirely.

>> No.17020095
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17020095

Decentralized applications need a way of using human judgement.

>> No.17021054

>>17019235
>how the fuck do you think this will ever be adopted technology?
I am asking this myself everytime I see a link "discussion".

>> No.17021071

>>17019557
Completely worthless as well, a payment token for some German software company

>> No.17021145

>>17021054
link was discussed to utter death long ago. There is nothing to talk about anymore

>> No.17021574

>>17019506
30mil would roughly be a 10x.

That's stupidly doable.

>> No.17021631

>>17019266
It's a pajeet shill group that is doing it. This always happens with some random shitcoin
>pajeets shill the coin
>faggot retards fomo in
>realize they made a huge mistake
>start "ironically" shilling it as well to cope with the fact they just made someone else richer while they're still stuck wagecucking

>> No.17021650

>>17021631
>>start "ironically" shilling it as well to cope with the fact they just made someone else richer while they're still stuck wagecucking
I'm up 8 ETH on my PNK stack already. Not selling until $1 minimum. Cope.

>> No.17021654

>>17021631
Nope. It's real and you're missing it.

>> No.17021657

>>17021650
i'm prepared to humour bullshit about as much as anyone else but come on

>> No.17021674

>>17021650
>>17021654
Get back to flipping my burgers, wagie.

>> No.17021685

>>17019284
on chain governance. directly voting on the blockchain.

>> No.17021867

>>17019293
Until privacy tech starts taking off on ETH like it is now. Kleros will never be worth 0 because holding Kleros gives you rights to ETH and all the other future chains the Kleros dapps (already several working) will adopt.

Also DAO model voting for additional value add mechanisms fuck I shoulda bought more.

>> No.17022049

>>17021650
How much would you make if it gets to 1$

>> No.17022059

>>17022049
He makes nothing, expect 100 rupees for creating shill messages.

>> No.17022972

>>17022059
what the fuck are you talking about. I literally shill this several times a day and I hold PNK. I will profit once Reddit buys in. I don't give a fuck about wasting my time shilling for a meager 10x.

>> No.17023054

I bought ETH in 2015 and I'm buying PNK now.
Those calling Kleros a 'pajeet scam' clearly haven't done their research. This has the potential to be a game-changer. Miss out though, I don't really care..

>> No.17023072

>>17022049
I'd make almost $1,000,000 USD at $1

>> No.17023288

>>17022049

How do you calculate this? I hold a 46k stack.

>> No.17023370

>>17019235
Did I miss a PnD? God damn it!

>> No.17023603

I hold 20m of this shit and will make sure it never reaches 5c let alone $1.

>> No.17023630

>>17023603
I remember this pasta. Is that you pretend Req whale?

>> No.17023863

>>17023603
No you don't. It's not in your best interests to say this. Try harder next time.

>> No.17023974

4.7m PNK happily chillin.

Even 10c is comfy money, and that's realistic.

This things going the way of Link and none of you raging supreme'z can stop it.

>> No.17024005

>>17023974
This. I only have 1M pinkies but I'm feeling comfy as fuck.
.

>> No.17024127

>>17019235
just check those shit-eating grins on the team page :DDDDD
they all stoned af

>> No.17024152
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17024152

WOULD YOU BUY THIS MAN'S SHITCONE?

>> No.17024158

>>17024005
I could sell right now and make $400, but what's the point? If we're right about this token then we just bought ourselves a seat at the top. If we're wrong then we lose money that wasn't going to change our lives anyways.

>> No.17024161

>>17024152
Almost as skinny as Vitalik, but very hairy.
Yes, yes I would..

>> No.17024184

>>17019235

People were already starting to use Bitcoin as cash for payments until adoption reached the level where the shitcoin fork BTC collapsed under its own pressure. The real Bitcoin (BSV) doesn't have this problem, and will soar past BTC's previous ATHs; Genesis coming in just a few days, going to be so sweet.

>> No.17024187

>>17024184
>the shitcoin fork BTC
stopped reading right there

>> No.17024189

>>17019235