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so I have read a few books on stock trading and I have one question that none of them will answer.

Is it possible to have a stock that wont sell. like lets say I have stock in Microsoft and it goes up 1 percent and I want to sell. Is it possible for it to just not sell? does some one have to buy it? how does that shit work.

>> No.16779553
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>>16779452
Yeah I've always wondered this. I asked one of my buddies.. and he didn't give me a real answer.. prolly cuz he didn't want to look dumb. He has a college business degree and works at a firm.

I'd assume the money you spent goes to the company, and when you sell it's taken away from the company.. HHHHHM.

>> No.16779566

>>16779553
Lol ok

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>>16779553
Wait. If this were true.. You're not selling.. you're just "cashing out". So.. are you actually selling it to somebody? Can someone pls answer.

>> No.16779579

>>16779452
when you sell a stock you dont sell it to someone random. You sell it to the broker, which will always buy, because the way the broker makes money is via comition baby

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>>16779579
Please. Fucking. Explain. My BROKER. buys .. it back.. when I sell.. Robin hood? VANGUARD?

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>>16779579
Since how does robin hood and vanguard make money off of commissions? from ME?

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>>16779579
nigger are you gonna reply?

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>>16779590
>>16779608
>>16779621
ROBLOX ECONOMICS. IT'S REALLY EASY! THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF VIRTUAL ITEMS, THEY ARE SOLD TO THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC THEN DECIDE IF THEY WANNA GET RID OF IT AND SELL IT. EVERYONE ELSE IS LEFT TO DECIDE IF THEY EVEN WANNA BUY. LIMITEDS THAT DON'T SELL ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AT RANDOM, AND THE MOB GAMBLES ON WHAT TO DO WITH EM FROM THEN. PT2

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>>16779649
IT'S A VIRTUAL STOCK MARKET ESSENTIALLY, BUT IF PPL DONT WANNA BUY UR SHIT, IT DOESNT SELL. THERE IS NEVER A GARUNTEE SOMEONE IS GONNA BUY WHAT YOUR OFFERING. YOUR VIRTUAL GOOD MIGHT BE SUPER POPULAR, BUT IN A CUPPL OF YEARS EVERYONE CAN JUST NOT DECIDE TO LIKE UR SHIT ANYMORE.

EVFEN IF THE VALUE OF YOUR VIRTUAL GOOD IS IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ROBUX, IT DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN SELL IT FOR THAT MUCH. VALUATIONS OF ITEMS ARE CALLED (RAP) [Recent Average Prices] AND IS THE CULMNIANTIOON OF THE PRICES IT HAS SOLD FOR OVER THE COURSE OF.. idk.. RECENTLY.

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>>16779452
There is a sort of auction. There are people willing to sell, but only when it gets above certain price. There are people willing to buy, but only below certain price. They find each other (mostly automatized) and do the transactions. These transactions determine the current stock price (somehow averaged through the prices exchanged in the currently running transactions).

If there is a case that most selling people demand too high price and most buying people demand too low price, not many transactions would occur, so the trading volume will be low.

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>>16779765
So if a stock isn't selling at the current price, and I wanna fucking get rid of it, I sell it for less. and less and less. until someone is willing to pay for it? And the system in the stock market is just a way to get the cheapskates and the business people to agree on a price super duper fast?

>> No.16779991

>>16779893
>and I wanna fucking get rid of it, I sell it for less. and less and less. until someone is willing to pay for it
Yes, pretty much. Once you hit below someone's price, you can sell it at your price.

Then of course there are companies that just broker this entire shit, making it easier for small buyers/sellers. They monitor the current stock price and offer you simple interface like "selling for 100, buying for 98". They are basically buffering the volume a little, so they carry some risk, but their margin usually pays for it.

>> No.16780158

>>16779553
>I'd assume the money you spent goes to the company, and when you sell it's taken away from the company.. HHHHHM.

Not at all how it works, idiot. When stocks are issued, the company gets the cash from the sale. It's value is now what people want to spend to buy it, for dividends or growth, to sell later. If the stock goes to zero, the investors get in the back of the line, as assets and anything else of value are sold, to pay creditors, who come first in bankruptcy. You selling a stock has no impact on a companies cash flow in any way, unless you've huffed 4chan so hard, you're retarded on conspiracy theory.

But you go sell some stocks to "punish" a company, brainlet.

>> No.16780177

>>16779452
It's theoretically possible, but so unlikely that it's barely worth discussing.

Now, penny stocks? VERY possible.

>> No.16780288

>>16779452
technically yes
in reality not really, most trades are automated. The gigantic network of automated machines running different strategies makes it really unlikely that you will be unable to sell a stock.
These things run huge volumes of trades all with different rules and cutoff points. The chance that you won't be able to sell at all is incredibly low.
>>16779590
your broker is not buying your stock, they're trading for you as an intermediary
>>16779608
by investing what you're not currently investing

>> No.16780305

>>16779608
They don't, Robinhood only passes along the small legally required payments to the SEC and others. Robinhood makes money like the big dogs do, by interest on cash in your account, and premium accounts.
Do none of you do no research into these companies, before doing business with them?

>> No.16780454

OP here, im thinking about doing some trading, I got some money I would rather not lose but if it goes tits up I wont lose my house or anything. I used to have a scott trade account and i guess they got bought out by TD. I guess Im going to reactivate my account tommorow and see what I can do.

Also non of you mother fuckers really posted a straight up answer, so thanks for nothing?

>> No.16780573

>>16780454
Any of the big financial services is fine, the amount you have will influence how much attention you have. If you just want someone to make the actual trades for you, for a fee, and some bog standard company line advice, it's hard to fuck up with the big boys.

You were also given several straight answers, so I don't know what the fuck answers you were looking for.

>> No.16780633

>>16780573
So what your saying is if I got 75 shares of google it will sell as long as im not asking over market

>> No.16780884

>>16780633
Stuff like Google, yes. That's blue chip or blue chip level. There's never going to not be buyers in the system for stuff like that. Stocks at that level have just as many people buying as selling, and the automated systems churn them constantly.
If I called my broker account reps and said I wanted to buy or sell Google they wouldn't even bat an eye.

>> No.16781239

>>16780884
boom good answer

so my next question is if I am buying low and selling high why the fuck are people buying high? are they just unfortunate morons? Am I some one elses' unfortunate moron? and if thats the case why cant everyone make money doing this? If there is always some dumb ass selling low, that means there is always some jack ass buying high.

>> No.16781286

>>16780884
but another question, like lets say you got some obscure shit, you bought it though TD ameritrade so its at least legit enough for that but its still obscure, could it potentially not sell? penny stock or whatever, maybe its freds fishin company.

>> No.16781416

>>16781286
Theoretically, sure. But you'd have to name a specific stock, and then analyze the company, and the market it's in, and it's performance. But that's not my wheelhouse, that's day trader territory, which isn't anything I do.

>> No.16781445

>>16781239
People and funds and all kinds of entities buy stocks for a lot of reasons. Maybe someone just wants more of a stock because of it's dividend over time in a 401k or a mutual fund is snapping them up. It sounds like you just need to dive deeper into how the markets work, and who buys what, and why. There's no "answer" here for you if you're trying to day trade. That's where the real work is, researching the stocks you buy, and anticipating demand, or getting rid of anything that might drop before it does.