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[Anonymous No.16680421]

it is day 3 of nofap
are my balls supposed to hurt like they do?

[Anonymous No.16680424]

>>16680421
yes and you will get prostate cancer if you don't jerk off

[Anonymous No.16680430]

No Fap is stupid.
If you want to naturally increase testosterone, take in lots of Taurine and Citrulline. thats the closest youll ever get legally

[Anonymous No.16680437]

i found grandma's old pictures

[Anonymous No.16680449]

>>16680437
Your thot doesn't impress me
>>16680424
The semen gets broken down by the body after a time
>>16680430
discpline and self-control are not stupid

[Anonymous No.16680467]

>>16680421
No fap fucked my dick up

[Anonymous No.16680473]

>>16680449
this one?

[Anonymous No.16680476]

>>16680430
Closest and best thing to do for test and every is carnivore and parasite cleanses

[Anonymous No.16680489]

>>16680449
>discpline and self-control are not stupid
wrong.
All you no fap fags should watch the South Park episode Bloody Mary S9 Ep 14
>waaah, i hate south park
whatever

That episode completely sums up the no fap movement in a nutshell and completely destroys any argument for no fap at all. youre delusional if you think no fap is discipline

[Anonymous No.16680490]

>>16680421
you are sooo cute OP

[Anonymous No.16680501]

>>16680473
I already quit porn a long time before doing this. I am immunte.
>>16680489
You can't convince me away from my ways.
video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6TWKyUY8iE
>>16680490
haha! fools! I have an ironed will.

[Anonymous No.16680519]

>>16680501
just give it to me

[Anonymous No.16680535]

>>16680501
maybe, just maybe you are not into women?

[Anonymous No.16680651]

>>16680473
This is this chicks best photo, she's got a weird af head

[Anonymous No.16680656]

>>16680651
who is this chick? do you have more of her?

[Anonymous No.16680669]

>>16680476
only if its hunted meat. humane and healthiest option

[Anonymous No.16680790]

>>16680501
>goes by so sayeth the spider
theyre literally making fun of you. You are believing a giant joke of a dogma with no logic behind its rules just because you think its cool to obey a giant spider

[Anonymous No.16680797]

>>16680535
i prefer weeb bellle over roastie belle. Roastie belle looks likes a basic bitch

[Anonymous No.16680932]

>>16680449
>Your thot doesn't impress me
*teleports behind you*

[Anonymous No.16680961]

>>16680790
ok coomer

[Anonymous No.16681060]

>>16680797
all belle is best belle stfu

[Anonymous No.16681092]

>>16680421
>anon, I’m so worried about you. It’s been so long, you know?

[Anonymous No.16681253]

>>16680421
No fap is a meme OP
Testosterone will ncrease only in the seven day then it will decrease to normal levels

This toht is here to satisfy all your need. She's made for sex. She' s in heat. Whacth her hips. Literaly in heat.

[Anonymous No.16681261]

j

[Anonymous No.16681357]

>>16680421

Funny how the cumbrains always swarm over nofap threads.

[Anonymous No.16681432]

nofap won't help you find a gf, guaranteed

even if it could.. being desperately horny leads to finding a very specific kind of gf

[Anonymous No.16681456]

>>16680421
Daddy, get in the tub with me!

[Anonymous No.16681475]

>>16681357
It's fucking weird
>anon is trying to not jerk it, I should upload porn to try and get him to jerk off and be a coombrain like me

[Anonymous No.16681495]

>>16680430
retarded post

>>16680421
what you should actually do is take zinc and not cuck yourself, nofap only works because when you ejaculate you get rid of a lot of zinc and people don't eat more zinc to compensate so they end up feeling weak and malnourished. be sure to not take too much zinc though, you might end up wanting to projectile vomit everywhere

[Anonymous No.16681848]

>>16681495
>just take zinc bro
>doesnt know what citrulline and taurine are
>thinks the average multi vitamin doesnt have the maximum zinc body can absorb

i hate vocal projecting retards

[Anonymous No.16681881]

>>16681848
yeah except your own body makes taurine and citrulline and if you need to take supplements for them just to feel normal then you have defective genes because your body regulates their production. what is likely is that OP isn't taking a multivitamin with zinc or he simply jacks off way too much, you're the actual retard for thinking that people need to waste money on scam supplements that no one actually healthy takes.

[Anonymous No.16681976]

>>16681253
Any evidence for the natural testosterone increase at 7 days without ejaculating?

[Anonymous No.16681981]

[Anonymous No.16681991]

if dubs you must coom

[Anonymous No.16682015]

>>16681432
Yep it's not gonna help shit. Just don't be a porn addict or low T bc girls will sense it. Esp when you can't make eye contact like a fag.

[Anonymous No.16682018]

>>16681991
ROLL

[Anonymous No.16682072]

>>16681495
Yeah I've heard zinc slightly increases T. I'd do a basic hormone panel before and after taking zinc for a month or two to see the difference. Prob will be minuscule. Like the difference from your levels at 8am to 7am. T levels lower through the day, specifically Free T.

[Anonymous No.16682188]

>>16680421
Stay strong.
I'm on day 135 and became a walking pussy magnet.
Eat zinc and vitamin d additionally and work out.
Go to church (Catholic).
You will make it OP.

To all the kike shills and coombrains in this thread:
God will either punish the rotten and degenerate carcasses you call bodies by you being raped by feral niggers or he will throw you in the eternal lake of fire where OP and I will be watching you suffer from our position in heaven for all eternity as Aquinas predicated.

[Anonymous No.16682248]

>>16681991
dubs

[Anonymous No.16682360]

>>16680421
Only do no fap for 7 days. Your test returns to normal regardless but it skyrockets on day 4 and 5.

[Anonymous No.16682478]

>>16682360
Source? I'm also thinking it's incremental. Better off optimizing sleep.

[Anonymous No.16682662]

Fapping is important

[Anonymous No.16682776]

>>16682360
>>16682478
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17239879
>It has been shown thatandrogen receptor density is reduced 24 h after a single ejaculation or mating to satiety, in the medial preoptic area, nucleus accumbens and ventromedial hypothalamus.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12689608
>In this study we show thatsexual activity reduces androgen receptor immunoreactivity (AR-ir) in some of the brain areas associated with the control of male sexual behavior.
>These data reveal that sexual activity reduces AR in specific brain areas and suggest the possibility that such a reduction underlies the sexual inhibition that characterizes sexual satiety.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12914589
>The androgen receptor density in brain areas closely related to the expression of masculine sexual behavior, such as the medial preoptic nucleus, was drastically reduced in sexually exhausted animals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
>This current study examined the effect of a3-week period of sexual abstinenceon the neuroendocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm.
>In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm,higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241
>The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak.

[Anonymous No.16682784]

>>16682776
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2009.01677.x


Results. A wide range of better psychological and physiological health indices are associated specifically with penile–vaginal intercourse. >Other sexual activities have weaker, no, or (in the cases of masturbation and anal intercourse) inverse associations with health indices.

[Anonymous No.16682804]

>>16680467
How so?

[Anonymous No.16682876]

>>16682784
>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2009.01677.x
>Higher masturbation frequency (and even the desire for more masturbation) is associated with depression [34-36], and masturbation is associated with less happiness [37]. The association of masturbation with depression is unlikely to be a result of simply a lack of PVI, because more masturbation and less PVI make independent contributions to less satisfaction with relationships, sex life, life in general, and one's mental health...
Coomers BTFO

[Anonymous No.16682946]

>>16681991
rool

[Anonymous No.16682962]

make sure you are not too warm when you sleep. a warm blanket will make you coom in your sleep.
too much heat is bad for your balls anyway. that is why your balls have been placed on the outside of your body.

[Anonymous No.16682971]

>>16680476
How do I cleanse my parasites?

[Anonymous No.16682989]

>God will either punish the rotten and degenerate carcasses you call bodies by you being raped by feral niggers or he will throw you in the eternal lake of fire where OP and I will be watching you suffer from our position in heaven for all eternity as Aquinas predicated.

[Anonymous No.16683051]

>>16682776
>>16682784
>>16682876
For long I have thought that masturbation reduces testosterone. While masturbation does very slightly do this through several ways, I've discovered that the feeling of weakness is actually caused by something else.

Masturbation downregulates certain androgenic receptors [in the brain] and upregulates certain estrogenic receptors and this is why we get the feeling of having lost testosterone - being weak, being feminine, etc.
It takes 3-4 days to recover from this receptor change and personally it always takes at least 3 days for me - 3 days of SLEEP.

Prolactin is increased after orgasm which causes a decrease in dopamine. Technically, if prolactin was all there was to it, all you'd need to do to regain the strength you had prior to the orgasm is to consume a strong dopaminergic agent or a prolactin inhibitor such as vitamin B6 (which is a strong inhibitor in 200+mg dosages).
Yet, having tested this myself, taking vitamin B6 does not cause me to feel well again sufficiently, though it slightly does.
This suggests, as mentioned, that the problem is really to do with androgenic receptors in the brain, amongst other things, and sleep really is the best way to recover.

Notice that downregulating of the androgenic receptors leads to "poor confidence," "passivity" and other unwanted side-effects.

[Anonymous No.16683062]

Hmm my problem with these studies is that so many variables may affect the result. Sleep for example vastly affects the body's ability to regenerate testosterone. The time of day also affects T levels. And I didn't see anything regarding Free T, which is what our bodies have readily to use. Total T used in the studies don't mean anything. It also did not consider the original baseline of the sample users. Some of the sample study may have low T from previous problems and the abstinence of ejaculating may have helped get them closer to normal. People already normal I suspect to benefit even less. A study like this is just fluff and too incohesive. Best thing would be getting your *own* bloodwork as a baseline, then doing nofap for 7 days and checking again. I’m thinking the variability would be small, without even considering sleep or other factors.

[Anonymous No.16683094]

>>16682989
Aquinas was a post-hoc rationalizing hack.

[Anonymous No.16683146]

why are high T levels considered to be a good thing?

[Anonymous No.16683157]

>>16683051
>>>>16683051
Hmm interesting, I'm inclined to agree with the androgenic receptors statement. Although I think it's also free testosterone that's affected by ejaculating. Free T is the literal hormone that is how much testosterone you have readily available by your body and thus affects your given confidence and energy. Given sufficient sleep this will naturally regenerate, so not sure about the 3 day statement. Maybe for the receptor change, but likely not the FT.

[Anonymous No.16683164]

>>16683051
thank god an anon finally gets it. "fapping lowers test" is such a cornerstone of nofap pseudoscience it's impossible to debate most people on it, they just start screeching and calling me a coomer apologist.

To add to your dataset, even when on cabergoline or peaking on a strong dose of pramipexole (strong enough that it should suppress 90%+ of prolactin secretion, based on studies), I still feel myself 'losing' something after I come which takes days to recover from. So yes, prolactin/dopamine balance is only part of the equation, hormone receptor densities in various parts of the brain are one of the other parts.

I wish nofappers would stop mixing their shitty anecdotal 'superpowers' bullshit with the good science that exists about what actually happens when orgasm occurs/doesn't occur.

[Anonymous No.16683196]

>>16683146
Free Testosterone directly affects your energy levels, confidence, ability to gain muscle, and lower anxiety. Idk about you but I rather have this high than not. Problem is our society wants this low and it keeps getting lower every year. Big conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.16683229]

nofappers all gotta point to testosterone as the source and answer to all their problems. why is it not enough that you are kicking an addiction? obviously that's going to benefit your life.

[Anonymous No.16683236]

>>16683051
Thanks for sharing this really interesting.

[Anonymous No.16683249]

>>16683229
Yeah nofap is for fucking fags. Just don't be a porn addict and focus on more meaningful shit than not touching ur junk

[Anonymous No.16683268]

>>16680421
LMAO you pussy. I am on Day 15 NoFAP. Its honetly a test of your mental strengh. If you donot success in NoFap, you will never make it in life as well, you have no mental control. You are a slave to your urges. Enjoy a mediocre life. Enjoy Poverty.

[Anonymous No.16683300]

>>16683268
Da fuck. If you have such mental strength then create a business and make millions. Can't? Oh yeah no fap is dumb dumb's way of achieving in life

[Anonymous No.16683305]

>>16683268
a lot of us are the type that fall into mental spirals and obsess over wanting women and have self-esteem issues and this and that. my relationship with porn is not dissimilar to my relationship with alcohol (i've been sober for 4 years now). it can play into your insecurities and make things worse. but you can break the cycle and i believe it can be genuinely freeing for certain types of people to break that kind of addiction. so yeah, lot of haters out there, maybe don't bring it up in real life because people will think you're a weirdo, but not watching porn is a pretty valid thing and a lot of women will respect that decision (speaking from personal experience).

[Anonymous No.16683328]

>>16680489
Oh wow yeah I love getting life changing information in cartoon form that's totally what smart people do.

[Anonymous No.16683333]

>>16683305
i should add, not watching porn is pretty much undebatably a worthwhile thing to commit to. nofap is sort of just a fucking internet weirdo thing. i wouldn't bring it up in real life.

[Anonymous No.16683395]

>>16681848
t. onions genes

[Anonymous No.16683436]

>>16680473
Something wrong with her eye. 2/10 would not coom.

[Anonymous No.16683440]

I can find no evidence citrulline increases testosterone.

[Anonymous No.16683446]

>>16681881

>Taurine is a key ingredient in Red Bull, Monster, Rock Star, and other energy drinks. The ingredient is added because there is evidence it helps muscle function, may aid athletic performance and endurance, helps reduce anxiety, and appears to aid blood sugar regulation and cardiac health

It's curious to me that energy drink manufactures would choose to include this, of all things. Red Bull even puts it on the front of the can, "With Taurine"

[Anonymous No.16683480]

>>16683446
It's a GABA agonist. It helps the caffeine caused anxiety.