/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.16650102]

What the hell happend to the middleclass?

[Anonymous No.16650110]

They either got rich or stayed poor

[Anonymous No.16650113]

the middle class is actually the same intelligence level as the lower class and was out maneuvered and out smarted by the top tier businessmen.

[Anonymous No.16650122]

>>16650102
they believed in a benevolent elite, in a world where cattle decides over the course of history, not T-Rex

[Anonymous No.16650127]

>>16650102
It left for China with the factory jobs. It's their own fault though, the american middle class had decades to save up money to invest in the companies profiting from cheap chinese labor, they chose to live above their means instead and now are paying the consequences.

[Anonymous No.16650139]

>>16650122

[Anonymous No.16650143]

>>16650102
this was never middle class, you dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.16650146]

>>16650102
Kevin's dad was part of the mob.
He was never middle class.

[Anonymous No.16650149]

>>16650143
This, do you people understand tv vs reality?

[Anonymous No.16650151]

>>16650102
>What the hell happend to the middleclass?

"Hi I've been living under a rock for the last 40 years."

It's called capitalism, idiot. We gave society away to the rich, and keep electing governments whose policies benefit only those with economic power.

[Anonymous No.16650160]

>>16650151
we've had capitalism for much longer than 40 years you dolt

[Anonymous No.16650291]

>>16650102
Middle class were actually poorfags enjoying a temporary increase in living standards because of the economy. The middle class have always been dirty plebs that are barely literate in finance.

[Anonymous No.16650303]

>>16650151
Incorrect.
These policies destroy and subvert the middle class and create a cattle class which soaks up benefits or works dead end minimum wage jobs.

[Anonymous No.16650309]

>>16650102
Complacency

[Anonymous No.16650334]

>>16650160
>I've had cancer for 40 years how would that affect anything differently now?
Dumb fuck alert

[Anonymous No.16650430]

>>16650102
survival of the fittest nigga

[Anonymous No.16650527]

>>16650113
This. Middle class is just the same low IQ lower class except they got lucky, that’s the difference.

[Anonymous No.16650583]

>>16650102
Boomers thought giving senseless tax cuts to corporations and the wealthy would be a good idea. That and implementing "free trade" agreements. Basically, neoliberalism.

[Anonymous No.16650608]

>>16650146
>Kevin's dad was part of the mob.
Source?

[Anonymous No.16650635]

>>16650334
What do you suppose is a better way of life?
Socialism doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.16650649]

>>16650635
Have you ever taken an economics class other than econ 101? Economics is more nuanced than "hur durr capitalism or socialism."

[Anonymous No.16650651]

>>16650583
tax "cuts" (down to Canada & Europe's level) for corporations is a good idea. Tax cuts for the rich was retarded and basically Regan is the worst and most liberal president we've ever had. Dude gave amnesty to 4m illegals and turned California blue for eternity, made tax cuts for his friends instead of businesses, and Hollywood then tells us that conservatives worship him which convinces retards to actually do so. Dude was a sham.

[Anonymous No.16650657]

>what happened to the middleclass
jews were finally giving a green light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvo9TJrAbIQ

[Anonymous No.16650744]

>>16650113

Yep. Corporate elite and government killed them.

[Anonymous No.16650754]

Like many others they moved fluidly into and out of various income brackets at different points in their lives. "Classes" are not fixed.

[Anonymous No.16650756]

inflation

[Anonymous No.16650902]

If you unironically use the term "capitalism" or "socialism" in a sentence, you are low IQ.

[Anonymous No.16650941]

>>16650102
We’re still here, now poor and wondering WTF happened.

[Anonymous No.16650962]

Outsourcing killed the manufacturing-based middle class. This led to increased class stratification. It's a vital industry.

[Anonymous No.16650982]

>>16650962

China in particular. Entered the WTO in 2001 and the green light was given for American companies to start offshoring their labor there. Just look at that tangent from 2000 onward, an absolute gold rush for China.

Trump was right, and that's why the business elite of both the Republican AND Democratic Party have been lying to you and trying to make him out to be a fool for taking them to task on trade.

[Anonymous No.16650987]

>>16650902
Look at this low IQ sentence.

[Anonymous No.16651055]

>>16650146
The Wet Bandits have some serious balls to be robbing the place then

[Anonymous No.16651159]

>>16650102
nothing

[Anonymous No.16651203]

>>16650102
They all decided to buy retarded shit like big houses, college degrees and cars instead of investing in things like new ventures and stocks.

They had a chance to become upper class and squandered it by being low iq and not understanding that things will change.

[Anonymous No.16651251]

>>16650102
Globalist Jews are destroying the middle class. The 4th Industrial Revolution is rooting out what, specifically? The middle class.

[Anonymous No.16651279]

>>16650102
http://esotericawakening.com/the-scam-and-how-it-works

[Anonymous No.16651329]

>>16650102
What middle class? There are traditionally two classes, those that support themselves by passive income, from investments and assets and those who support themselves by waging. The labor class got poorer.

[Anonymous No.16651332]

>>16650982
This. Everyone wants to shut Trump down because he has a way of pointing out the bare truth in a very matter-of-fact, almost autistic fashion. Attempts by the establishment to hide these facts have only made it more obvious as time goes on.

[Anonymous No.16651341]

>>16650102
This was an upper class neighborhood. Robbers wouldn't be house hunting in a middle class area. Kys

[Anonymous No.16651353]

>>16650102
The middle class in China is larger than the entire US population.

[Anonymous No.16651383]

>>16651332

Positive things have started to happen. Wages in the low income sector are rising faster than middle and high for the first time in decades. And some of the globalist economists are slowwwwlly starting to walk back their dogma...

Like these articles

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/27/its-time-to-think-for-yourself-on-free-trade/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/22/economists-globalization-trade-paul-krugman-china/

[Anonymous No.16651391]

>>16651332
Haha Trump and his family are part of the establishment.

[Anonymous No.16651429]

>>16651391

He is a rogue. There's a reason why a man 10x richer than Trump has decided to run against him in Bloomberg, and why media outlets ran by the richest men on the planet have nonstop FUD against his administration. Even Fox News will start to bristle on trade. If you want to know where the real issue lies, look for the one that you aren't allowed to scrutinize, my little peon.

[Anonymous No.16651453]

They were incrementally convinced to turn on one another until they made up a smaller and smaller portion of the population. The rich played this century fairly well, but I don't think that the next century will go as well for them even though they're hoping for another gilded age. The next round of people who look like they will be middle class have considerably more potential leverage to work with even if they skew naive.

[Anonymous No.16651462]

>>16651429
He's not just a rogue he has access to time travel technology.

[Anonymous No.16651488]

>>16651462
I normally disregard shit like this, but on this one I dunno. It would make a lot of sense.

[Anonymous No.16651503]

>>16650527
Statistically untrue.

[Anonymous No.16651521]

>>16650102
>What the hell happend to the middleclass?

The foreign invasion. The snakemen gave all the jobs and houses to the orcs. It won't stop until we fight back.

[Anonymous No.16651528]

Literally ever time I post on this website on christmas eve or Christmas day there is some faggot virtue signaling about how I should go spend time with my family. But you know what, wagies dont even get christmas day off anymore. My local gas station opens up at 6am on christmas morning, the wagies have to open up presents at 4am and get ready at 5am. The entire nation is a hodgepodge of hunnakah, Kwanzaa, and Ed-al fitr. All christmas is seen as is a payday for the foreign invaders selling their cheap trinkets to white america, they couldn't give less of a shit about your holiday or wether your kinsman get to celebrate it, they'd rather have them show up at 6 sharp so their welfare buddies we imported from the middle east aren't inconvenienced. So fuck you I guess, I'm actually the bluepilled "well adjusted" person now for not giving a shit I guess.

[Anonymous No.16651539]

>>16650962
>Outsourcing killed the manufacturing-based middle class. This led to increased class stratification. It's a vital industry.

Healthcare is only raking in because of insurance. If it wasn't for healthcare insurance, they wouldn't be able to charge outrageous prices. Instead the bad guy becomes the insurance company.

[Anonymous No.16651559]

Mostly that the manufacturing sector shrank. Most of the jobs floating around manufacturing have traditionally been decent paying ones, but as tech gets better and fewer workers are needed to do more work, those low skill workers are funneled into retail and service industry jobs, which were never designed to be careers. Thus the traditional middle class phases out into the lower and upper classes, which administrative and highskill jobs feeding the rich, while brainlets get the menial tasks that I'm not going to pay a livable wage for.

[Anonymous No.16651565]

>>16651539

Yes, well that's pretty much a bubble at this point. No society can survive where 50% or more of its population are working in healthcare...

[Anonymous No.16651578]

>>16651539

>insurance company is the bad guy boo hoo

They're profiting from underwriting what is essentially gambling on bankruptcy due to illness. Cry me a river.

[Anonymous No.16651583]

>>16650102
in historical terms the middle class was a fluke

[Anonymous No.16651602]

>>16651559
But that's not what happened. Don't keep parroting the snakemen propaganda. We didn't lose jobs to technology.

We lost them to foreigners both in our country (invasion immigration and duhversity hiring) and in their country (offshoring). Place the blame where it belongs on the foreigners. They have become richer and we have become poorer.

Our leaders didn't protect our jobs and our economic livelihood. This is why so many of you are neets or incels and why you are demonstrably poorer than the boomers. So its up to you to fight back against this injustice and oppression.

[Anonymous No.16651621]

>>16651565
>Yes, well that's pretty much a bubble at this point. No society can survive where 50% or more of its population are working in healthcare...

My point is insurance is what props up the bubble. Its also why easy to obtain student loans leads to the university and tuition bubble. Its also why the easy to obtain morgages leads to the housing bubble.

If people stopped paying the outrageous amounts hospitals and doctors charge, then the hospitals would eventually charge reasonable amounts.

[Anonymous No.16651636]

>>16651578
>>insurance company is the bad guy boo hoo
>They're profiting from underwriting what is essentially gambling on bankruptcy due to illness. Cry me a river.

Its your doctor that is bankrupting you. I don't see why people refuse to see the real bad guy. I guess its because doctor sheklestien has a hooknose and you don't want to be called a name. Nonetheless he is the bad guy for charging amounts that will bankrupt you.

Also, insurance companies usually only make money of investing premium.

[Anonymous No.16651649]

>>16651583
>in historical terms the middle class was a fluke

No. It was a victory. Until the dark times. Until the snakemen and orcs.

[Anonymous No.16651664]

>>16650962
c-correlation is n-not causation {they will say}

[Anonymous No.16651675]

>>16651602
>we didn't lose jobs to tech
>foreigners turkur jurbs
fucking brainlet

0 investment in infrastructure
trillions spent blowing up brownies
fiat printed to -99% value
housing costs driven up by rich around the world
there are only slaves and slave owners

[Anonymous No.16651696]

>>16651675

Right anon, it was totally """"""""""""""""automation"""""""""""""""""", and not a deliberate, massive cash grab and golf rush by American businessmen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_World_Trade_Organization

[Anonymous No.16651704]

>>16651636

>It's not the HMO
>It's not the financial sector the formed around it
>It's the skilled worker who makes a fraction of what is billed for his time
>Something anti-semitic
>Companies dindu nuffin

I kind of think people like you deserve to be exploited.

[Anonymous No.16651717]

>>16651675
>there are only slaves and slave owners
This. The people at the top are only concerned with exploiting labour. All this feminism talk is centuries old, but only came into fruition in a system that abstracts away individuality and treats everyone equally as a slave.

[Anonymous No.16651718]

>>16651696
the bots are coming the bots are coming

[Anonymous No.16651782]

>>16651602
I never said we lost jobs to tech. Im saying they naturally moved away from manufacturing. The net amount of jobs is larger than it has ever been, they just aren't in manufacturing. The jobs follow the money, and there is a lot to be made on the phones. The downside is that now brainlets like you actually have try. And that is hard so you rationalize it as jobs being stolen somehow unfairly, when in reality is just that whites are at a competitive disadvantage, and will almost always be beaten out for a low skill job because there are other people who are way better at that shit job than you. Just ponder that. You suck so bad that even the easy jobs are too hard for you.

[Anonymous No.16651846]

>>16651717
I think the only flaw with that is that female in the workplace is going to be statistically more expensive than a male. Less willing to work long hours, more susceptible to not being able to work (pregnancy and maternity leave being,the big ones), modern press railing you for paying them less on those grounds. Why deal with the hassle of it all if not for some outside mediation?

[Anonymous No.16651863]

>>16651528
Based and true. Fuck Christmas and fuck while people

[Anonymous No.16651869]

>>16651636
>insurance company profit margins 60%

[Anonymous No.16651875]

>>16651782

That is disingenuous. The United States has standards, laws, and regulations. This puts a high threshold burden on American manufacturers. They have to meet certain environmental standards and pay their workers honestly.

We can't compete with 3rd world shitholes that will literally enslave children to make the same products while dumping all of their waste into the nearest river without issue. We functionally cannot compete with that. And maybe you'll smugly sit back and say "oh well" but that's not how it works either, because Americans are the ones BUYING these products, and have the leverage to demand these same products get made intranationally.

The alternative is settling for this slow race to the bottom where all brainlet jobs are outsourced to Asian and Africa while those displaced get stuck on welfare and opioids and rack up a huge tax bill that gets laid on me. No thanks. I will fight this to the end.

Don't parrot their lies and talking points, they already have enough money and useful idiots in the media to do that for them.

[Anonymous No.16651909]

>>16651863
That wasn't the point of that tirade Muhammad, but whatever fucks your goat I guess

[Anonymous No.16651917]

>>16651846
Negligible variance against 100% increase in workforce, and residual benefit of increasing consumer spending (economic growth) by breaking down the traditional family unit (household management is commoditized).
> source I'm Jewish

[Anonymous No.16651936]

>>16651846
It’s labour that wasn’t tapped into at all before though. Any contribution at all is going to make the top richer. Doesn’t matter if they have different work lives as mothers, the fact they are out of the house and waging at all is the key to what I’m saying

[Anonymous No.16651937]

>>16651875
>The United States has standards, laws, and regulations. This puts a high threshold burden on American manufacturers

what if consumers started demanding these sorts of products, instead of fawning over the cheapest pair of sneakers they can get their hands on

[Anonymous No.16651954]

>>16651937

Consumers can demand we go back to the labor and trade protections we had for 150 years before the boom-time drawdown of the 20th century

[Anonymous No.16652021]

My aunt is middle class. Growing up it felt like we were going to a rich area when we would visit her middle class Californian suburb. I can only imagine what the elite live like, it must be like another world us poor folk can't even begin to imagine.

[Anonymous No.16652036]

>>16651675
*slaves, slave owners, and neets

[Anonymous No.16652071]

>>16650102
immigrants and automation drove down wages and eliminated jobs, demoralization propaganda caused mass inaction on the goal of improving one's own life

[Anonymous No.16652084]

>>16650291
based and realistic-pilled

[Anonymous No.16652095]

>>16650651
did your single mommy tell you all of that son?

[Anonymous No.16652106]

>>16650102
Is this supposed to be a middle class house?

[Anonymous No.16652116]

>>16650102
Too many women in the work force. Housing prices sky high. Affirmative action hiring. Third world outsourcing. Degradation of the family unit fueled by hypergamy and female biased family court. Single income family no longer feasible for the majority. Upper class stayed same, middle class bumped down to lower class.

[Anonymous No.16652224]

>>16651203
This. I see my dad and they have really bad money managment its not even funny

[Anonymous No.16652462]

>>16651675
>durka durka strawman whataboutism to defend orcs
>doesn't disagree too many orcs here and orcs have jobs
>trillions spent blowing up brownies

Think if all the money spent on orcs was spent on loud and proud Caucasians. We would be living in a golden age.

Fuck the orcs and fuck the self haters that try to defend them. You are enemies to America

[Anonymous No.16652482]

>>16651869
>>insurance company profit margins 60%

Your thinking of the hospitals profits margins.

Why do you defend Dr Hooknose without any facts or logic? Why won't you admit he is fucking you into financial oblivion with his usury level medical bills.

[Anonymous No.16652497]

>>16650102
Read Lenin on labor aristocracy. Imperialism gave first-world workers an artificially high standard of living, and now they're being pulled down to an average level with everyone else in the world.

[Anonymous No.16652551]

>>16650102
The Marxist plan to eliminate the bourgeoisie middle class. Brought to you by central banks.

[Anonymous No.16652577]

>>16650102
Middleclass is a boomer concept because the economy was blooming back then. Now it's dead.

[Anonymous No.16652829]

>>16652462
america is an enemy of freedom
kys brainwashed burger

[Anonymous No.16653102]

>>16651875
american consumers dont give a shit about how their products get made, they just want whatever is cheap.

why do you think walmart and amazon are the biggest american companies, that literally made all their billions from cheap chinese garbage?

[Anonymous No.16653140]

>>16650113
the lower class subverted the middle class by shopping at corporations and receiving gibs

[Anonymous No.16653177]

Winnekta, IL, where this house is located, is the second wealthiest area in the state. The median home value today is almost $2,000,000. This was never middle class.

[Anonymous No.16653213]

>>16650102
>be middle class
>live in a mcmansion
>neighbours hate you do much you can't rely on them to check on your kid if you leave him at home on his own.

[Anonymous No.16653272]

>>16651528
Yup got to work today while people junior to be get to have it off. And the dumb corporate cocksuckers at this place won't ever vote in a union...

[Anonymous No.16653290]

>>16653213
>Never tell anyone your kid is going to stay behind because he was supposed to come with you
>expect people to check up on him

[Anonymous No.16653455]

>>16653290
>live in a 12 bedroom mansion
>can't afford a long distance phone call

[Anonymous No.16653518]

>>16653455
phone lines were cut, it was established early on
did you even watch the movie?

[Anonymous No.16653575]

>>16651696
Don't you mean (((American))) anon?

[Anonymous No.16653610]

Work sucks. Getting paid 15 per to just deliver pizza around a smallish city? Not bad. I mean hell it could be worse. You could be a desk zombie tied to a desk for 8 hrs and have to put up with bullshit and paperwork.

[Anonymous No.16653821]

>>16653518
>phone lines don't work
>orders pizza
>apparently a localised outage, surely they know someone in the next town

[Anonymous No.16653882]

>>16650122
>not T-Rex
lost