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16646920 No.16646920 [Reply] [Original]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hj1xu/why_i_declined_to_verify_sns_identity_two_weeks/

So let me get this straight...

>Craig Wright offers to sign for Andreas
>He immediately declines after he pulls out an NDA (despite calling himself a "privacy" advocate)
>Says that he has to do it publicly and that he doesn't want to know if Craig is Satoshi
>Goes into damage control mode after he signs for Gavin and Jon Matonis and others
>"Even smart people can still get scammed, don't be too hard on them."
>Well I guess that settles it

Honestly I don't blame CSW at this point, fuck these socialist hypocrites.

>> No.16646936

>>16646920
STIFF

>> No.16646979

>>16646920
u remember roger calling out aa for not being a millionaire and suddenly within a couple days aa gets a million dollars in "donations" ? yea that was when i knew roger was blockstream

>> No.16647021

>>16646920
Smells like socialist commie satanists

>> No.16647044

Give one good reason why Craig shouldn't do it publicly so that everyone can verify

>> No.16647072

>>16647044
He will do it when he moves his coins holy shit its obvious

>> No.16647106
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>>16647044
So that he maintains information asymmetry over brainlets like you.

>> No.16647116

>>16647044

Because he would have nothing to gain and everything to lose?

Because the people demanding public proof are bad faith actors who would have no problem hardforking his coins away?

Because a bounty would get placed on his head almost immediately?

Because he's entitled to privacy and discretion?

I can think of many reasons, its almost laughable how little upside there is in that scenario

>> No.16647151

>>16647072
The satoshi coins are in the original addresses. If there was a real tulip trust then the coins would have been moved to an address the trust controls. If the coins never moved then craig would still have the private keys

>> No.16647170

>>16647116
You can't have privacy and the respect of being the real satoshi at the same time. It is impossible to have your cake and eat it too.

>> No.16647185

>>16647151
>If there was a real tulip trust then the coins would have been moved to an address the trust controls. If the coins never moved then craig would still have the private keys
No. Legally speaking, no on-chain transfer is required. The trust was probably given fragments of Shamir'd privkey or list of privkeys.
>>16647170
Except that is exactly what CSW is doing. He is enjoying his cake in a small pocket of reality that is about to start rapidly expanding.

>> No.16647201

>>16647116
Why would he have a bounty placed on his head?Dont think its that serious. You dont see Vitalik having any issues.

>> No.16647203

>>16647151
>If there was a real tulip trust then the coins would have been moved to an address the trust controls.

Why?

>> No.16647210

>>16647185
If he mined those coins then he would have the full private key of the addresses. Do you believe he deleted his copy of the private key when they went into the trust? Why would the real satoshi even use a boomer legacy financial instrument like a trust anyway, especially that soon after the project was launched. It makes no sense on any level you look at it

>> No.16647233

>>16647210

>the private key

You know that every address generated a new key in the original client? That would mean over 30k keys across hundreds of different machines over the years. There was no HD wallets back then

>> No.16647234

>>16647203
Have you even used crypto before? If i sent you the private key of an address i controlled with coins in it would you trust me to never use it? If there is an actual trust involved they would need to create an address and then Craig would have to transfer the coins to it. Once it was over they would be transferred back to Craig.

>> No.16647254

>>16647233
No shit, he would have had to send the raw private keys for each address. And then what, the trust just believes him when he says he deleted his wallet file? How dumb can you be?

>> No.16647284

>>16647210
>Why would the real satoshi even use a boomer legacy financial instrument like a trust anyway
Because we still live is a legacy financial and legal system-dominated world and having property in trust can grant certain privileges in the eyes of the law, where most individuals of any consequence live. If you think putting coins in trust by turning over Samir shards is beyond the pale, you are living in a fantasy land.

>> No.16647293

>>16647254
It is analogous to turning over the keys to a property you are selling with a contractual stipulation that the seller destroy all keys in their possession.

>> No.16647299

>>16647254

I'm not sure you understand how a trust works.

Even if he didn't delete them, he would be violating the terms of the trust if he spent them before a certain date.

>>16647234

>If i sent you the private key of an address i controlled with coins in it would you trust me to never use it?

No, because I don't know you and we're not in a billion dollar business agreement.

>> No.16647306

>>16647116
then why'd he open his mouth in the first place faggot?
>hey guys im satoshi!
>prove it
>nah i have too much to lose bruh

>> No.16647311

By February 2020 we will be pushing 1GB of OP_PUSHDATA4 transactions every 20 minutes (currently around $2700 an hour). Let us start the bid at 5 sats/byte for our exclusive business.

It's happening

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>>16647311
Checked

>> No.16647585

>>16647311
> but can you run a full node on a raspberry pi?

fuck this im just buying PNK with the rest of my BTC holdings, you BSV shills got me scared.

>> No.16647661

the fact that people seriously discuss this charlatan on this board is a very good reminder that 99% of posters on here are fucking dumber than previously thought possible

>> No.16647683

>>16647661
most of these people are paid shills

>> No.16647702

>>16647585
PNK

>> No.16647713

>>16647044
Because even if he did we would still know for a fact that he is not Satoshi.

>> No.16647722

>>16647661
>seriously discuss this charlatan on this board
They're mostly paid for Indians tho so does it really count?

>> No.16647883

>>16647306

But that's not what happened. He was blackmailed and then outed by Wired and Gizmodo, remember?

>> No.16647896

>>16647044
Give me one good reason why I don’t steal my neighbors car keys and claim ownership of their car.

>> No.16648413

>>16647883
>blackmailed
'blackmailed' by fucking who - taking coin for nTrust to larp as Satoshi is not 'blackmail'. And those shitty 'proofs' were forgeries (surprise, surprise) and somewhat suspiciously appeared round about the same time nTrust were planning his Satoshi launch. Which went about as well as can be expected, given he is no more satoshi than santa fucking claus. tldr, stop posting shite

>> No.16648631

>>16648413

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jp5dk8/the-satoshi-nakamoto-email-hacker-says-hes-negotiating-with-the-bitcoin-founder?utm_source=reddit.com

>> No.16648837

>>16646920
Andreas' reasoning is completely sound. This has nothing to do with "privacy", either Craig wants to prove that he is Satoshi, which he can easily do publicly and incontrovertibly, or he doesn't. If he doesn't actually want to prove himself, that's fine, but there is no rational explanation for why he would want to perform such a proof in private behind an NDA, because even if it was all true, a private proof would be meaningless because it's no proof at all except for the few people that see it. It's just wasted effort. The only reason that make sense is that it's a trick and he wants to obscure that fact.

>> No.16648879

>>16646920
>fuck these socialist hypocrites.
This!

>> No.16648910

>>16647201

He's claiming to be Satoshi the whole fucking time. So he HAS a bounty on his head. Your argument: discarded>>16647203

>> No.16648920

buy E-BIKE on memo.cash

>> No.16648989

The paid bsv shills are out in force again.
>faketoshi

>> No.16649350

>>16648989

Paid by who? Let's see some proof.

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16649391

Daily reminder that the only person who staged and financed Craig's "coming out" as Satoshi is Calvin Ayre.

>> No.16649404

>>16646920
he can sign for me just publish a signed message "my name is craig wright" and i will believe him after examining it for signature reuse and stuff.

>> No.16649424

>>16647210
>Why would the real satoshi even use a boomer legacy financial instrument like a trust anyway, especially that soon after the project was launched.
exactly a cryptography expert who distrust the custodial nature of the worlds finances would probably just secure his goddamn keys or if he wanted to do what craig claimed to do he would have mined INTO mutisig smart contract wallets to showcase what bitcoin can do including timelocks and fallbacks.

>> No.16649445

The ironic thing is, these supposed pajeet shiils are not pajeets. Pajeets unironically do shill shit tokens however en masse

I've been on the inside I've seen the way they operate. BSV is not like that.

>> No.16649451

>>16646920
>"sure i will sign for you....but first you must sign this legally binding document that fines you massively if you say anything i don't like about it"
i wonder why he didn't accept it?

>> No.16649458

>>16649451
kek

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>>16649451
Huh

>> No.16649535

>>16649391
you’d think he would be able to afford to rent better looking woman

>> No.16649542

>>16649445
shut up josh you fucking fat faggot

>> No.16649556

>>16649445
bsv is shilled by murrican altright you can see when they get up and the same imbecilic thought process ie "everything i don't like is communism" also "rude asshole shitting on etiquette or reasonable conduct is le based" i bet they are almost all murricans and most of them are poltards.

>> No.16649560

>>16649556
oh yeah and the constant "jews this jews that" is pretty telling too.

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16649564

>>16648631
that pile of shit excuse for 'journalism' has zero to do with creg, and probably not much to do with reality either tho. AGAIN, HOW DOES THAT EXPLAIN HIM TAKING nTrust CASH TO LARP AS SATOSHI ? Not like THE REAL SATOSHI would fucking need to go cockgobbling convicted stock scammers like Ayre for dime and change. Is it.
<- Maybe, you should have read the next story down instead

>> No.16649570

>>16648989
do the needful sir.

>> No.16649571

rolling for a prominent BSV mouthpiece being eaten by an escalator today

>> No.16649574

>>16649556
you aren't going to make it faggot

>> No.16649575

>>16649571
oof better luck next time

>> No.16649595

>>16647044
Here's the reason: he isn't actually Satoshi.

>> No.16649598

>>16647044

Because Craig doesn't want all these code is law Core troll anarchists who haven't even read section 10 of the whitepaper anywhere near BitCoin. They can think he's a fraud and all HODL BTC until it goes to zero!

>> No.16649599

>>16649574
i already made it

>> No.16649849

>>16649556
Well you're right about one thing, most of us retired from /pol/ after the great memetic war. Went on to better things.

>> No.16649853

>>16649542
Who the fuck is josh

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>>16649853
>>16649849
I hardly ever post, but I just wanted to know you are unironically the worst poster on this entire board. You are worse than Indian shills. Yet, I want you to never stop posting because it's so painfully obvious that you're a retarded child, every time you post on favor of BSV, you turn 10x as many people away from it than you do towards it. When BSV goes to zero, I hope you livestream your suicide.

>> No.16650045

>>16649913
I haven't posted in over four years, but I just want to say you are the worst poster on this board. Kill yourself rasheed.

>> No.16650105

>>16650045
> no you ! !

>> No.16650111

>>16649913
I have successfully completed my task then

>> No.16650616

>>16649913
Cope harder you cockgrabbler

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>>16649913
Imagine seething this hard over something you claim is "just a scam" lmao