I have a question for you businessmen...

[Anonymous No.16612331]

I have used methamphetamine approximately 10 times over the past two years, with my first try being January 2018.

I wont say I got addicted on the first try not am addicted now, but I will say that it's the most pleasure I've ever felt in my entire life.

My question for you, /biz, is... is it worth going your entire life not knowing all the pleasures of the world so that you dont become distracted from your goal of making money, or....

Is it better to taste life's pleasures and have the taste of the pleasure haunt you forever?

What do you think, /biz?

[Anonymous No.16612337]

>>16612331
It's horrible to know that the feeling of achievement from reaching a goal is dwarfed by the pleasure of taking some pills or snorting some drug. Like, what's the point of pursuing anything when drugs are so so good?

And I say this as a person who is depressed 99% of the time and sees life as only worth living when I'm high

[Anonymous No.16612340]

>>16612331

depends, what is your definition of pleasure?

[Anonymous No.16612424]

>>16612340
Take a few hits of a meth pipe and you'll know pleasure.

The only thing in the world I can compare it to was the memories of being young and joyful and jumping into a pile of freshly raked leaves in autumn for the first time in my life.

That's pleasure

[Anonymous No.16612434]

>>16612331
Drug high will always end and leave you feeling a little more empty afterwards which compounds with further usage.
Similarly, making it creates a high that will leave you feeling even worse due to the inevitable thought of rotting away in your grave and it was all for nothing (ex. tolstoy after he retired).
In terms of infinite time there is only one way to attain pleasure, and it is found in God, who is infinite Himself.

[Anonymous No.16612436]

>>16612434
Godpill is brutal.

[Anonymous No.16612460]

An interesting thought OP, but the way I differentiate pleasures like drug highs from pleasures like becoming a millionaire through hard work is that the former pleasure is fleeting, and is accompanied by an equal or greater displeasure, and the latter pleasure is longer lasting, and can lead to even greater pleasures. From a mathematical perspective, the pleasure/displeasure of being a junkie is analogous to a sin wave, and the pleasure/displeasure of becoming a millionaire is like a line with a positive slope.

[Anonymous No.16612471]

>>16612436
hardest one to swallow...by design.

[Anonymous No.16612484]

I hate that making 370k from crypto after having a net worth of 20k didn't feel as good as popping 60 mgs of adderall + smoking a joint

[Anonymous No.16612491]

>>16612331
meth is great until it isn't

[Anonymous No.16612498]

>>16612471
The idea that this horrible life might be followed by something else is discomforting to me. It's like an endless loop of bullshit

[Anonymous No.16612501]

>>16612331
I think there's a cap on how much pleasure you can feel and if you abuse the pleasure system in your brain it will eventually correct it with pain.

[Anonymous No.16612510]

It’s like taking acid and gaining a superficial glimpse of enlightenment compared to dedicating years to meditation and uncovering enlightenment that way.

The former ultimately leaves you feeling shallow and disillusioned like the hippies who all became heroin addicts.

Life usually punishes you for taking shortcuts. Shortcuts to wealth, happiness or enlightenment never actually lead to those things.

[Anonymous No.16612516]

[Anonymous No.16612530]

>>16612516
satanic

[Anonymous No.16612536]

>>16612331
Niggers stink. Can't stand em!

[Anonymous No.16612543]

>>16612536
This. They smell terrible.

[Anonymous No.16612561]

Your delusional and junkie tier brainlet
Ive done meth once it was interesting some good and bad parts. Over its terrible and shitty and i would never do it again.

[Anonymous No.16612574]

[Anonymous No.16612578]

>>16612331
>>16612337
your definition and understanding of happiness is fucked. Go back and read the Greeks like Plato and Aristotle; these aren't new questions mankind has been dealing with

[Anonymous No.16612599]

>>16612578
>reading a book can cure depression

You're the biggest normalfag here.

[Anonymous No.16612628]

>>16612599
At what point did I talk about depression?
I'm talking about getting high being viewed as a standin for happiness. I literally have a MD degree, and am an anesthesia resident

[Anonymous No.16612633]

>>16612628
Read the post you replied to.

[Anonymous No.16612637]

>>16612337
there was this line in a book I read about the history of jazz, it was about heroine, I’ll paraphrase:
The beboppers appetite for heroin, specifically it’s affect, can be boiled down to heroin making the user feel above all other people and things in life, including judgment. This state is one of noncomformity, which was the essence of the bepopper. These artists were comfortable not being in the mainstream and prided themselves on it. Heroin just made them feel even better about not conforming to people’s judgements. End paraphrase
Drugs are tricky, they make you feel great, but no one else sees you as great. There is something to be said for doing something great that you and others recognize as great. I’d love to be drunk everyday for the rest of my life, but my life would be shorter and without any achievements. I would have to keep getting drunk/high just to stop caring about the wasted potential.
Anon don’t waste your time on hard drugs or soft ones, look up Ed Buck. Nigga got rich and fell for the hedonism jew. Gave into his homosexual and methamphetamine

[Anonymous No.16612638]

>>16612574
I like how they immediately start tweaking

[Anonymous No.16612649]

>>16612599
It can’t necessarily cure depression but it might provide tools with which to cope with it

[Anonymous No.16612650]

>>16612637
>Dude achievements lmao
You don't know jack shit about depression. Being on drugs is the only way I can feel normal.

[Anonymous No.16612652]

>>16612578
what plato book do i read to get happy pls?

[Anonymous No.16612654]

>>16612633
Yeah you're depressed, getting high is gonna chemically make this shit worse lol. This shouldn't be news to you if you've been formally diagnosed with MDD. You need a SSRI, not a high. I'm talking about the idea of being high as a replacement for traditionally conceived notions of happiness

[Anonymous No.16612661]

>>16612637
p2
ed buck got fucked up on meth and gay sex and got arrested for killing a black male prostitute. Don’t do meth

[Anonymous No.16612667]

>>16612331
your choice retard

[Anonymous No.16612669]

>>16612652
You don't read Plato or those guys to get happy, you read them to wrestle with what happiness means. You're never gonna get happy unless you figure out what being happy means. Feeling really physically good for a few hours is a vague way to understand happiness. It's not necessarily wrong, but you're gonna need to flesh out the goal of happiness and what it is a lot better if you're planning on achieving it

[Anonymous No.16612671]

>>16612331
To make a remedy, you need to know the poison first.
TASTE the pleasure, and then decide what to make of it. You're a grown man.

[Anonymous No.16612675]

>>16612331
I've had booze, weed, NOS, lean, various opiates, snorted xanax, done ecstacy, shrooms, and acid.
Its worth it when you're in your early 20's.
You better taper off to just alcohol and get your career act together after 25 tho. You're a lifer if you can't slow down after that. Enjoy being a rehab counselor as your peak.

[Anonymous No.16612684]

>>16612661
i didnt realize ed was fucking male niggers
fuck thats so disgusting

[Anonymous No.16612704]

>>16612650
I’m not going to get into a pissing contest about depression with you. You should be able to tell that when I say I would rather be drunk everyday it means I have some shit memories I like to drown.
You might feel “normal”, but what it is is feeling content with not conforming, or succeeding by your own standards. I binge a lot, and I feel “normal” or rather “content,” but I don’t actually move any further from what haunts me, nor do I achieve enough under the influence to actually do things that make me feel proud of myself.
I used to need drugs and alcohol daily. Now I just have strong cravings that lead to binges. Still better than where I was. I’m sorry your depressed fren, depression sucks. Do you have any hobbies? Grow some plants like succulents or spices in your backyard or house even.
Exercise a bit, like buy a 6 pack of foam locking mats on amazon, do pushups and situps here and there during the day. Depression is chemical and psych. My other favorite is painkillers, but I try to sate that urge with endorphins. I look better than when I was on pills, and working out feels good. I’m not even jacked, but I finally look healthy

[Anonymous No.16612714]

>>16612652
Books will make you think hard, and feel unsure. Get into nature, grow houseplants or spices in your room even.

[Anonymous No.16612717]

>>16612669
i've read a lot of books. i've also done a lot of drugs. both made me happy. maybe for some people it's not either/or?

[Anonymous No.16612741]

>>16612717
both are great. A life spent with only one thing is probably maddening for most, variety really is one of the easiest ways to stay happy.

[Anonymous No.16612749]

>>16612704
>Do you have any hobbies? Grow some plants like succulents or spices in your backyard or house even.
>Exercise a bit, like buy a 6 pack of foam locking mats on amazon, do pushups and situps here and there during the day. Depression is chemical and psych. My other favorite is painkillers, but I try to sate that urge with endorphins. I look better than when I was on pills, and working out feels good. I’m not even jacked, but I finally look healthy

I work out constantly. Body weight exercises in the morning and then at night I walk around my neighborhood constantly. I must clear several miles a day just because I have a constant restlessness. I get up, walk around, come back, get up, walk around.

Sorry for being a dick. I often argue with normalfags who say depression is just a good diet or exercise routine away from being cured

[Anonymous No.16612768]

>>16612717
I don't think you're comprehending what I said. I did not say reading books will make you happy. I said reading some of the Greats will help you get a better understanding of what happiness is, which in turn will better equip you to pursue happiness

>>16612749
I'm not one of the dipshits that thinks good ol exercise or positive thoughts cures depression. It's a physiologic process like a broken leg, not just feeling sad because you're a faggot. People who think exercise and happy thoughts cure depression are the equivalent of soccer moms who think essential oils are gonna cure their cancer or some shit.

It needs a a drug, such as those prescribed for MDD aka SSRI etc. Getting high only gonna exacerbate the depression as I'm sure your doc has told you.

[Anonymous No.16612770]

>>16612424

you will die penniless addict