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16592502 No.16592502 [Reply] [Original]

If workers create all economic value, why do they voluntarily work for companies they do not own?

What a mystery.

>> No.16592521

Because they have no other choice

>> No.16592526

sage and hide all leftypol raid threads

>> No.16592545

>>16592521
But if workers have all the valuable things, they dont need companies.

>> No.16592554

>>16592521
So they have a choice, quit and work without companies.

>> No.16592656
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>>16592502
Because the masses are fucking retarded. Cattle. Wether you think its the jews herding them or not is another discussion, but man/society must be guided buy an elite regardless. How to attain benevolent handlers is also another discussion.

>> No.16592792

>>16592656
Is it good or bad to transfer economic power from retards to smarties? Does it matter if this transfer is voluntary or involuntary?

>> No.16592869
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>>16592792
Economic power in essence is political power. This goes all the way back to the development of agriculture on a mass scale, where massive amounts of labor needed to be organized in order to meet the needs of society. Since the neolithic revolution, the mechanics of human society have remained relatively static. I should also say that If you want to discuss the how to of you discussion, it doesn’t belong on this board.

>> No.16592992

>>16592502

No one is forcing you, unless you are a fucking slav in a communist shithole lmao.

>> No.16592994

>>16592869
Do machines (capital) create economic value? They (machines) do work.

>> No.16593010

>>16592656
>but man/society must be guided buy an elite regardless
bootlicker

>> No.16593062

>>16593010
Useful idiot.

>> No.16593103

>>16592502
Because they'd rather buy the latest iPhone than company ownership.

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>>16593010
Have fun in a lawless society with guaranteed chaos. Society today is just a more complex form of the ancient hunter gatherer tribal hierarchy. Humans are just like any other animal.

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>>16592994
Please elaborate on what your point is a bit more please

>> No.16593229

>>16593168
Machines do work that is valuable, but who should get the benefit of this work? The worker that is operating the machine, but didnt sacrifice to build the machine. Or. The one who sacrificed time and effort and resources to build the machine.
Building modern machinery takes a lot of sacrifice. Ships, factories, etc. In essence, should workers or investors benefit from the work machines do. Who gets this cut?

>> No.16593253

>>16592502
Fuck you and you're simplistic question you sarcastic cunt, we all know that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts and that the facilities and assets (and supplier networks and sometimes corporate culture created by) owned by employers helps multiply the value creation ability of employees.
Employees are nessecary though, without them there's no one to operate the equipment, to turn raw materials into value-added products. However, where everyone gets their panties in a bunch is they forget that the total value created by the employers is greater than if the employees did it alone.
Stop trying to oversimplfy this shit and get back to trading shitcoins your fucking political travesty.

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>>16593229
The capitalist in this case should benefit from the output produced by the capital. The worker gets paid, and can feed their family. As long as this balance is sustained, so is peace. When profits turn to loss, people are jobless and starve. Same goes for employee pay being too low or work conditions being abusive. Then capitalist ultimately suffers. This is econ 101 mate. Any policy discussion should be left to pol.

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>>16593253
>>16593393
I must speak to people on their own level. Are the majority of users on this board low, medium or high level thinkers.

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>>16593448
Your question has been answered 3 times already. If you gotta business idea you'd like to discuss, spit it out. If not then go back you fucking faggot.

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>>16593517
If you do not like the discussion - dont take part in it. Basics are the most important thing anyway because everything else is built on top of them.

>> No.16593557

>>16593010
If you are forced to work for someone or “be guided” by them, then you’re a little bootlicker bitch and there is nothing you can do about it.
Complain all you want, but anyone who unironically uses the term “bootlicker” tends to be the lowliest and most subservient in society.

>> No.16593567

>>16592502
>>16593393
I want to marry Aqua. What's the point in having all my crypto and investment if I can't get a qt tardie like her? Not fair

>> No.16593584

>>16593156
You're retarded. Hunter gatherers carried everything on their backs. It was a status based society. Since the industrial revolution we have lived in an increasingly wealth and resource based society. Status matters a lot less than it used to.

>> No.16593585

>>16593010
I bet you hate your parents too.

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>>16593567
We will build a technological utopia. Be stron fren.

>> No.16593665

>>16593567
Google aubrey de grey. The singularity is near.