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Should I start a religion? Is that profitable?

>> No.16565449

>>16565437
No body starts religions anymore, they start cult like productivity or lifestyle programs like IIXVM with it's ESP (Executive Success Program) or pervy Yoga instructors, or Crossfit.
The days of being L. Ron Hubbard or Claude Vorlihon are over.

>> No.16565460

>>16565449
No that sounds like it'd get me arrested. Not a cult a religion.

>> No.16565491

>>16565460
All religions are cults with large membership

>> No.16565506

>>16565460
A religion is just a cult with legal protection or social acceptance. Jesus and the 12 apostles was a cult, the whole early church was a cult which spun off John the Baptist's Cult. The Zealots were a cult. Muhammad and his tribe were a cult.
I specifically said though you start a cult-LIKE productivity or lifestyle program rather than start a religion or a cult.

>> No.16565545

>>16565506
>>16565491
Any books you guys reccomend on this shit other than bibles?

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>>16565437
>>16565449
>>16565460
>>16565491
>>16565506
>>16565545
You’re in. I hereby anoint you all discordian popes. Welcome to the church of the subgenius.

>> No.16565705

>>16565545
To my knowledge there really isn't a book that covers it.
Start off with Max Weber's "Politics as a Vocation" where he describes 'charismatic authority' and how it is distinct from 'traditional authority' and 'legal-bureaucratic authority' - if you want to start a cultish company, you need plenty of charismatic authority. Which basically means saying
>we do things differently, the way *they* don't want you to, because we have a purpose that's higher than everything. Do you want to be part of something bigger than yourself? Of course you do, you're not a pussy, you don't want to listen to *them*
Watch the keynotes of charismatic leaders like Steve Jobs, Trump, Obama, Lenin, Televangelists... Study how they talk, not what they talk about, but how they say it - how do they tell stories? How do they phrase their claims? What is the 'big idea' rather than the specifics?

>> No.16565721

>>16565437
I'm planning on starting one but there's no profit in it, I plan on there being no way to abuse the religion like the Catholic church has.

>> No.16565741

>>16565721
unless you have a totally horizontal, syndicated power structure, there will always be abuse. the rigid hierarchy is what attracts those who have a lust for power or wish to exploit their fellow man, they see it as a feature not a bug. Each level concentrates more power, which concentrates the potential and attractiveness of it being abused

>> No.16566057

bumping for interest
Perhaps another book to read is 'Inside Apple' by Adam Lashinsky which basically repackages a lot of other author's anecdotes about Apple into a convinient read.
I became convinced Apple's internal structure was operating like that of a cult, the secrecy, the "us versus them" dualism, the charismatic but petulant founder and surrounding myth, the playing of departments against one another.