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how do you know gravity is real? just because someone told you a long time ago it was true and that smart people said so. how do you know the earth is round and not flat? well just because you learned in school that all the smart people proved it so you must believe it was true. face the facts. you have been living a false delusion and do not prove reality for your own verification. what you have thought is not dictated by the principles of basis and evidence but instead is dictated by idolization and massive group agreement due to the shared mentality of those around you.

>> No.16530551

i think, therefore i am

>> No.16530573
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>>16530548

>> No.16530580

So?

On this topic, this is what I like about trading, it is like a game that has access to the /real/ world unlike most of the other things we do in the everyday

>> No.16530598

>>16530548
Why the fuck are posting Doug over and over?

>> No.16530628

speak for yourself. i live with the assumption anything i hear could be wrong until i've empirically managed to produce results (and even then, it all relies on the basis my perception is accurate)
dealing with uncertainty efficiently is a key factor in business

>> No.16530630

>>16530548
nice protection retard, anyone who has ever physically touched something knows more about reality than you do. every person, every animal, every plant, every microbe on this planet knows what reality is because those things interact with reality on a daily basis. You, on the other hand, are the most truly deluded gorilla retard nigger because you seem to have convinced yourself you know how everyone else thinks and feels and experiences life. It's ironic because you specifically have probably never had an original thought, felt anything, and are incapable of enjoying our maybe even experiencing life. You deluded, retard, atom brain nigger.

>> No.16530699

>>16530548
what kind of retard has lived their life without having deduced something for themselves? OP, this is the dumbest shit I've see on biz today. there's a difference between what I know and what I've been told. I understand that. I never take for granted what I've been told to be true.

>> No.16530709

>>16530630
>hurr durr my brain chemicals make me "know" reality when i touch it

you're a fucking blob of jelly and piss that doesnt know anything

>> No.16530735

>>16530548
I have come to this exact conclusion myself, on which I mean the universe has led me to conclude conclusively. You’re correct, but the current counter I tell myself is that surely there is a means to the end, and a definition that could be parallel to humanities definitions would be a universal definition, which leads me to ask what came before existence? How could finite humans possibly have any grasp on the notion of infinite and eternal? So much like you, I sit like a pseud and poo poo pee pee.

>> No.16530778

>>16530548

The only thing more annoying than stupid people who ignore obvious things are the people who take it to the opposite extreme and desperately try to argue against obvious things like they're somehow more woke.

Just use fucking common sense.

>> No.16530872

If bait 9/10, otherwise stop skipping class and get the fuck back to school you melodramatic douche.

Gravity can be verified with math, a non brainlet tier argument however would be that gravity is actually part of a larger system and doesn't really work how we think it does, I.e. it's actually some form of electromagnetism. That would explain the constant nature of the math, how you can get accurate results with varying scenarios, but also provide an argument for gravity not existing as described by Einstine, because it's actually something else and we're only observing a small part of it. It is probably not electromagnetism which we know from various maths people have tried to work out that don't fit, but that's way less brainlet tier then saying its fake because your a nigger who doesn't understand math.

Round earth can also be proven using math, probably the best way to "see the math" is the great pyramids. Shadows curve and you can calculate the diameter of the earth using that. It's pretty simple math that was invented almost 2,000 years ago. You can prove this math reflects curvature as well by making a replica "earth" with Styrofoam and making replica pyramids on that.

>> No.16531050

>>16530551
fpbp

>> No.16531065

>>16530872
OP absolutely obliterated

>> No.16531390

>>16530872
OP is asking more so the philosophical, not the logical.

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>> No.16532175

>>16531390
His "philosophical" talking point is that none of this can be proven by you, and you're just following a herd, when I proved the opposite is true. We've built a society around math specifically because you can verify it for yourself instead of believing somebody. The real question you should be asking yourself is not wether it's true or not but what this means and if people are looking at it correctly.

I am one of the largest proponents I know of for saying we need more philosophy and less numbers in some ways specifically because of what OP is saying, yes math is always "correct", but the conclusions and forward thinking you draw from that math are not always correct. Yes the earth is round, yes gravity "exists", but what does it mean? As I mentioned there have been multiple people that have tried to prove gravity is not a fabric but more akin to polar forces, so the math shows a celestial body moves in certain ways and from that we theorize its a pulling action, when it could simply be an attraction mechanism and people are missing the larger picture. Do I think that's correct? No not personally, but we need more philosophers to make arguments like that, people to play logical "what-if's". Philosophy is not looking at facts and saying those facts are wrong and lies as this anon said, but instead philosophy is looking at the facts and coming up with methods to think about them in. Philosophy does not make theories, it does not make facts, philosophy is akin to interpreting those things. It's the logic of rationality, turning hard sciences into useful applications. IF x is true, then Y is also true, and Z is false. X Y Z will be your structured arguments, which I gloss over but how you structure your argument is very important.

Basically OP is not clearly defining the argument. I'm sure there is one in there, but his logic is more "we assume X is true, so B is the outcome" with no reasoning or structure, which makes his point collapse in on itself.

>> No.16532179

>>16530548
the only certainty is uncertainty, the only constant is change.

>> No.16532194

>>16530598

Because hes the ultimate cuck

>> No.16532840

>>16530709
if your brain chemicals aren't capable of letting you know what's real and what isn't then that would make you severely schizophrenic. I'm sorry about your condition. I'm also sorry that you're the blackest gorilla retard nigger on this planet, and I'm even more sorry for the people that have to interact with you physically, because they'll REALly know how much of a seething autistic retard you are

>> No.16533018

>>16530630
This is the truth, sorry >>16530548 OP, the gigantic faggot fuck.

>> No.16533034

>>16530548
we're living in a simulation and you rolled a brainlet npc, im so sorry

>> No.16533048

>>16530548
congrats, by realizing this you have set the first step to actually thinking for yourself. No, you're still not special, other people have figured this out. No, you still dont know shit. This is just the beginning.

>> No.16533054

>>16530548
Wow op you're such a woke teen

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>> No.16533140

The scariest part for me growing up was to realize that all the “experts” I trusted were just stupid people like me, just doing their best to make sense of this reality before they all die and whatever realization they made becomes pointless.