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[Anonymous No.16500214]

WHY AM I A WORTHLESS JUNKIE.

Can't stop doing heroin.

[Anonymous No.16500226]

have you tried detox and NA?

[Anonymous No.16500262]

>>16500214
This is a business and finance board

[Anonymous No.16500264]

have you tried weed? you can smoke it until you're too relaxed to bother getting heroin

[Anonymous No.16500268]

gay

[Anonymous No.16500273]

*poke*
*draws up blood*
*pushes down*
Ah... much better. Glad I traded my shitcoins for drugs instead of falling for the ponzi scheme

[Anonymous No.16500276]

have you tried ibogaine? if you have money that supposedly cures addictions even heroin with high success and you can go do it in south america. dyor though

[Anonymous No.16500327]

>>16500264
I think I'm predisposed to schizophrenia or something because the few times I've done weed I'd almost lost touch with reality and had serious delusional thought.

[Anonymous No.16500345]

>>16500214
you are literally going to die if you continue

[Anonymous No.16500367]

>>16500327
drink chamomile tea, go outside, get your head right

[Anonymous No.16500393]

Ex-fentanyl addict here. I wish I tried heroin, fentanyl was just way too intense and didn’t last long at all. What was heroin like? I had OC80’s and it was pure bliss. Just lose everything and you can’t afford it anymore

[Anonymous No.16500405]

>>16500214
you are weak minded

[Anonymous No.16500410]

>>16500393
Forgot this pic xDD

[Anonymous No.16500422]

>>16500214
Because you are physically addicted and you need medical help.

[Anonymous No.16500425]

>>16500214
So what if you're a dope fiend?

[Anonymous No.16500452]

>>16500393
>>16500410
Heroin is closer to the bliss that oxy gives you but oxy is #1 in my opinion. Fentanyl is more like a clinical high it like keeps you at arms length if that makes any sense.

>>16500405
Literally nothing else in life makes me happy. Not sex, having people praise me, I don't give a shit about any of that. People say it's because I'm on smack right now, but I've been clean for a few months before and I still found nothing that could replace heroin. Don't know what to do honestly.

[Anonymous No.16500470]

>>16500452
You need to reset your brain. Your brain needs a long time to readjust and repair with 0 to little stimulus from dopamine.

[Anonymous No.16500474]

I was addicted to kratom and occasionally it dipped into harder shit like morphine.
Got an Adderall prescription and haven't needed it since.
Being dependent on hard drugs isn't fun, OP.

[Anonymous No.16500473]

>>16500214
JUST STOP LOL

[Anonymous No.16500486]

>>16500470
>>16500452
Do a very strong heroic trip on mushrooms, LSD or DMT. Find your demons and face them. Then drop everything and detox in a safe manner. This is the only way you will break the shackles of the pharma jew

[Anonymous No.16500495]

>>16500474
I wish hard drugs were legal

[Anonymous No.16500502]

>>16500474
I'm addicted to kratom. Doesn't literally destroy your life though.

[Anonymous No.16500505]

>>16500452
When you are clean go out into nature and exercise. Probably even easier to do this right now if you are homeless. Being in nature will bring a natural harmony that you will want to relive and be connected to.

[Anonymous No.16500508]

>>16500452
>Makes me happy
Oh fuck off. “I need some equivalent of a warm blanket to drape over my delicate psyche on a regular basis or I’ll be saaaaaad :(“
>t. You, a godless languishing faggot.

[Anonymous No.16500514]

>>16500452
>Literally nothing else in life makes me happy

Welcome to the club bro.

[Anonymous No.16500516]

You’re trying to fill the void with substances, if you get off the dope and stay off it you will look for other avenues to fill it like sex or shopping/money. First step get off the dope, go to rehab then work a 12 step program. Then get in tune with your spirituality because that’s what your trying to grasp with addictions.

[Anonymous No.16500517]

>>16500508
>a godless languishing faggot

Are you admitting god is just cope, there guy?

[Anonymous No.16500530]

>>16500452
Also find a hobby that isnt related to drugs or will remind you of them. The hobby's purpose (or work if you are a wagie) is going to keep your mind distracted and may give you a sense of purpose to stay clean for.

[Anonymous No.16500559]

>>16500214
taper off with some bud and universal protocol

[Anonymous No.16500579]

>>16500452
you can get treatment or you can kill yourself now or you can die probably in the not too distant future. those are about your only options at this point. hopefully you get some treatment. good luck.

[Anonymous No.16500598]

>>16500517
If our single collective goal, our purpose, literally “the way” qualifies as cope in your mind then I guess so. Better to just complain and do kratom than “cope” like that amirite?

[Anonymous No.16500615]

>>16500452
fried ur endorphins?

[Anonymous No.16500652]

>>16500214
Do you smoke or inject it?

[Anonymous No.16500656]

What does it feel like to shoot up heroin? I’d never fucking do it, but I’ve always been curious how good it feels

The only real opiate I’ve tried was when I was in Laos and drank a cup of opium tea at a bar in Vang Vieng

[Anonymous No.16500686]

>>16500656
that one british fag said it was like cooming

[Anonymous No.16500741]

>>16500598
You got me all wrong, fampai. I'm jelly of you religiousfags. I just can't let myself believe the bs, so I can't benefit. If someone had to choose a life of god or a life of drugs, only a fool would choose the drugs. If ever there was a way to cope with life, god is the way to do it. I just can't. While we're on the subject though, lets not delude ourselves into thinking doing drugs and believing in god are mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous No.16500775]

>>16500741
After trying out NA and rehab I've realized the reason it doesn't work for me is my extreme nihilism. I don't value anything at all and NA is all about reaching out to the things you value and using it as an anchor to keep you sober.

Wish it was so easy to believe in God and actually care about things but apparently I can't do that. If someone can tell me how to do it I would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.16500777]

>>16500656
It's cozy like being wrapped in a warm blanket with no pain or worries

>>16500686
I've instantly coomed my pants right after pushing the plunger in when shooting meth

[Anonymous No.16500833]

>>16500775
Read The Sickness Unto Death, but skip all the religious parts if you’re not a pseud. Should clear up your nihilism in a fortnight.

[Anonymous No.16500867]

>>16500214
Do magic mushrooms. It cure addictions.

[Anonymous No.16500885]

>>16500452
I've heard ketamine can help break addictions. If you take it and look at the addictive substance the dissociation breaks the memory you have of it and the pleasure.

Im sure it's not a one and done but maybe have some ketamine quickly every time you feel you're about to go shoot up.

[Anonymous No.16500952]

>>16500833
I will read it, at this point I will try anything.

>>16500885
>>16500867
Always been scared of dissociatives and psychedelics because of my reaction to something as mild as weed. I think my family has a history of schizophrenia and I've gotten lost in delusional thought the few times I've smoked weed. Scary stuff.

[Anonymous No.16500975]

>>16500777
Ive coomed before while double dousing on Extended release adderall. After that experience i never did it again.

[Anonymous No.16501006]

>>16500952
Well if you are willing to try anything phsychedelics will show you the way. We never said it would be fun (it could be if you are into that sort of thing).

[Anonymous No.16501038]

>>16500867
IMO, you should be scared more of the heroin. Mushroom is supposed to be dissociative for everybody, but there are few deaths. I'm not an expert on the subject, but i think you should do it somewhere in nature, far from anything dangerous.

[Anonymous No.16501057]

>>16501006
>>16501038

I need to look more into it. I don't want to try and cure my heroin addiction with dissociatives or pyschedelics and end up schizophrenic.

[Anonymous No.16501068]

>>16500214
I'm sure someone can find some evidence implicating the Jews

[Anonymous No.16501223]

>>16500559
i'm interested, what does this shitcoin do?

[Anonymous No.16501261]

>>16500276
I'm 10 years clean thanks to ibogaine.
It doesn't work for everyone, but chance of success is way, way higher than other treatments.

[Anonymous No.16501429]

>>16501057
Lol, again, not an expert, but i don't think you can become schizophrenic if you eat magic mushrooms a few times. It's said to be able to cure schizophrenia. Go pick them yourself in nature.

[Anonymous No.16501456]

>>16500214
Its really strange i just kinda stopped one day because didnt feel like it and made up my mind to stick with it. The first few months tho were impossible. Every single waking moment of my life was thinking about blasting off but then, when its over you have such a beautiful glorious appreciation for soberness more so than anyone who was strong enough to not get hooked on drugs. It feels like you're high on sober. Try associating with people that aren't poor trailer trash, the less its brought up around you the better. Hearing or reading about h makes me remember how unbelievably amazing it felt but that it also almost ruined my life and is literal poison. Try a hobby, focus on becoming not poor. Best wishes op

[Anonymous No.16501493]

>>16500214
don't listen to the joe roganists and their botanical science. go see addiction therapy professionals and a support group if you're serious OP.

[Anonymous No.16501516]

>>16500214
Get a rehab. You’re doing heroin and that’s the line us drugs users never cross.

Most of us stopped at ecstasy. Get some help, anon. You’re a mess.

[Anonymous No.16501573]

>>16500952
Ketamine won't trigger schiz.

[Anonymous No.16501579]

>>16501057
Better than being hooked on a literal nigger drug

[Anonymous No.16501756]

>>16501493
>go see addiction therapy professionals and a support group if you're serious OP.
That's exactly the world you try to flee when you are addicted to something.I don't think he wants to go back.

[Anonymous No.16502215]

>>16501057
get professional help dude...

it really works dont listen to ppl online seriously... it's possible btw, will be hard but it's possible

[Anonymous No.16502427]

>>16502215
>Give me money i'll help you.

[Anonymous No.16502486]

>>16501516
>Most of us stopped at ecstasy
This

[Anonymous No.16502491]

>>16502427
>implying that isnt the entire way of the world

[Anonymous No.16502511]

go to rehab the longer ones are better. pick up sports like excersize, and try to socialize as much as possible. also practice nofap while doing all this.
eventually youll learn to have fun without drugs. takes time though, need to give ur brain time to rewire and to build correct connections.
could take a year or more just to stop having cravings. and maybe 2-3 years before your confident and comfortable with yourself sober.

during recovery time make sure u practice nofap you get good excersize and your being as social or around as many social interactions as possible, including opposite sex.

its a long road but its worth it to be free from the shackles of addiction.

godspeed anon, you can do it

[Anonymous No.16502521]

>>16500214
Here's what I did.
>Junkie
>Methadone two years
>Suboxone two years
>Kratom three years
>Present
I'm going to try to give the kratom a rest soon. I've been of the dope for 7.xx years and it's dope lol

[Anonymous No.16502554]

>>16500214
Because you are a FKIN WORTHLESS JUNKIE! you already accepted and acknowledged what you are. Let me tell you what you also are: Your a piece of shit who: Lies & Steals from Family & Friends. Your a Fkin PARASITE who's only purpose in life is to Drag down those around you. Your a FKIN USELESS human being. You obviously cant resolve your own inner demons, so why do continue to SHARE them with others? Because you really dont care! .... thats how much of a piece of shit you really are. FUCK OFF! and DIE! The world would be much better without you, and you ALREADY KNOW THAT!

[Anonymous No.16502598]

>>16500214
did your parents love you? did they abuse you? you have your answer.

[Anonymous No.16502608]

>>16500214
DMT can cleanse you completely off addiction. 90% success rate. I know how you can find to get it if you want.

[Anonymous No.16502629]

>>16502491
That's the point. Go into the fields, pick some mushrooms. Totally out of the exchange value system.

[Anonymous No.16503172]

>>16500226
that shit doesn't work

>>16500214
Good luck fren I couldn't stop until I went to prison. I recommend kratom if your tolerance isn't super high, at least will help to cut back and not always have that what if I run out fear

[Anonymous No.16503182]

>>16500214
Try Kratom bud. Might help you break free.

>>16500226
>detox
LOL
AKA opening a money siphon for shitty rehab clinics that don't actually get results.

[Anonymous No.16503193]

>>16500214
Take a lot of psilocybin mushrooms. It re wires your nero connections in your brain, and can enable you to do whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.16503196]

>>16500502
>>16500474

>Addicted to Kratom

How?

Did you just use copious amounts daily for years?


Did you use extracted products?

I use Maeng Da maybe once a week, and take several week breaks ever month or so, and haven't had any problems.

[Anonymous No.16503201]

been a dope user with benzos for prolly over 10 years, went to rehab, only to take a break and get out on my own, had no intention of quitting.
eventually went to halfway, starting hanging out with girls all the time, had a sober support group, worked physical work. construction, moving, ect.

now im like 7years clean. tho i do have a drink here and there with friends now, and very rarely smoke like once in 2-3months take a hit or two, but even that i end up regretting usually.

[Anonymous No.16503210]

I wonder what Keith is up to now. Seemed more sane than most people despite himself
https://youtu.be/H6ZFzEW7_Q4

[Anonymous No.16503234]

>>16500327
Your schizophrenia is something you have to face. It’s blocking something about yourself you’re afraid to go through. That’s your inner demon and it’s why you’re addicted to heroin. take some Benedryl and melatonin, jack off a few times while wait 15 or 20 minutes for it to kick in, and then smoke up some cannabis. And just tell yourself to let the feelings flow through you. Acknowledge the feelings but don’t cling to them. Just let them go.


Also you’re a faggot

[Anonymous No.16503290]

>>16500345
that's kind of the point of getting into heroin. you don't start doing that shit unless you were already close to suicide

[Anonymous No.16503299]

>>16500452
It takes years to feel a little better but it will still never be as good as hard drugs. Trying them once is one thing but once you've been addicted you'll miss parts of it forever

[Anonymous No.16503312]

>>16500952
Make sure you never do meth then, worse than psychs for mental health

[Anonymous No.16503316]

>>16500405
Underage fags gtfo

[Anonymous No.16503335]

>>16500502
same. But you can stay high every waking moment for less than $100 a month so it's not that big a deal. Also the high is pretty weak compared to real drugs. Weed helps you take less and get your tolerance down too

[Anonymous No.16503340]

>>16500452
It'll never end and you'll never get used to it. Good luck. Go read Infinite Jest.

[Anonymous No.16503343]

>>16500345
God, do people not understand why people do hard drugs?

No one does Heroin because they had a good life, and wanted a buzz. Most addicts were borderline suicidal before they took it up anyway.

[Anonymous No.16503369]

>>16500516
some people use drugs to keep that spiritual bullshit away. I want nothing to do with any of it anymore

[Anonymous No.16503400]

>>16500656
It feels a lot better if you're a dope sick junkie going from cold trembling misery instead of a baseline sobreity but the high is like accomplishing everything you ever wanted to, everyone you know being proud of you, and closing your eyes while laying in your giant comfy bed with perfect life. Then you wake up on a sidewalk or pile of garbage

[Anonymous No.16503416]

>>16501456
After the hell of the first couple months or years you feel pretty great and will get jacked off you start working out

[Anonymous No.16503426]

>>16500214
Guys OP dead RIP

[Anonymous No.16503441]

>>16503234
you have no clue what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.16503668]

ANR:

Accelerated Neuroregulation. I used opiates and opioids (everything from poppy tea to oxycodone to heroin and fentanyl) for 6 years then got on Suboxone maintenance for 2 years. I “relapsed” into fentanyl use and was just exhausted of it all. Found this Dr. Waissman who does “ANR.” He detoxes you under anesthesia by loading you up with naltrexone (takes 5 to 6 hours), then prescribes you naltrexone for 6 to 9 months after this procedure.

His method seems to be the smartest approach to fixing the biological damage you’ve caused yourself. He gives you a very specific dose of naltrexone to inhibit your massive amount of opioid receptors (but not ENTIRE antagonism). This allows your brain to slowly downregulate the number of receptors when they eventually undergo a morphological change after months of antagonistic inhibition.

The goal is the find a life of balance while downregulating which is the tricky part. But Dr. Waissman is one of the few doctors approaching this problem strictly from a biological perspective. No psychiatry or spiritual bull shit.

[Anonymous No.16503712]

>>16503196
Take it everyday. I have shoulder pain from an accident and I don't want to get hooked on actual opiates. I took it for a year straight and when I quit I had pretty gnarly withdraws. I'm sure its an order of magnitude less than heroin withdraws. Also the cravings aren't all that severe. Not that I would know directly, but I quit smoking cigs and that's pretty close as far as physical addiction goes.

>>16503335
>Also the high is pretty weak compared to real drugs
Yeah and really only the first dose of the day feels all that great anyway. Plus I don't really try and increase my dose much. I can't smoke weed because my job otherwise I would just do that instead desu.

[Anonymous No.16503736]

>>16501057
>>16501057
one of my friends used to have schizophrenia bad enough to consistently see hallucinations and shit. Keep in mind that the difference between a hallucination and an illusion is that when you see that hallucination you're not aware that it's fake. So yeah she had it pretty bad.
Interestingly enough, she ate a tab of acid once and it cured her. Since then she was able to get off of antipsychotics and function fine without them. Couldn't before cause of the hallucinations.
Don't sleep on psychedelics.

[Anonymous No.16503756]

>>16503400
>feels like giving in, giving up and dying with no more worries

Why I would never let myself go that far. I know it'd be too good. I've taken pain killers before and already enjoy those too much.

[Anonymous No.16503771]

>>16503668
>Waissman
anon, I...

[Anonymous No.16503826]

>>16500214
It’s just the nature of drugs once you get hooked it’s very hard to get off, I personally had an addiction myself (porn), the only way to break any addiction is a realization of how harmful it is to you, sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you realize. Having never taken heroin I can say that the first high is definitely the best and the rest are chasing it. Quit cold turkey, eat shit with the withdrawals for a few weeks and anything in your life that would bring you back to doing it get rid of (friends/family/media) that promotes it.

Do you want to die of an overdose? Do you want to end up in jail because you did something stupid on drugs or did something stupid to get drug money? Do you want to be a street bum sucking cock for drug money? If no just quit and never look back.

[Anonymous No.16503850]

>>16500214
Also unironically believe on Jesus Christ.

You may think that he would reject you because you are a drug addict, but the opposite is true, Jesus is come to save the lost and the broken spirited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY

1 Corinthians 1:26-29 KJV
[26] For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called : [27] But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; [28] And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea , and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: [29] That no flesh should glory in his presence.

[Anonymous No.16503863]

>>16503850
Can't just believe shit you don't believe in man.

[Anonymous No.16503959]

>>16503863
I wasn’t talking to you

believe whatever you want

[Anonymous No.16503970]

>>16503959
Read the thread, retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.16504017]

>>16503970
You’re not OP dumb ass

No one cares about you lol, you are not important and your opinions are as worthless as yourself

[Anonymous No.16504036]

>>16504017
see >>16500775

kys

[Anonymous No.16504043]

>>16500452
Switch to legal low dose amphetamines
Join the productive master race

[Anonymous No.16504097]

>>16504017
I thought Christ cared and loved everyone? I love when you christcucks out yourselves for the hypocritical fucks you are.

[Anonymous No.16504489]

>>16502554
Anon, I'm sorry to hear your family members are junkies, but there's no need to take your anger out on OP.

[Anonymous No.16504670]

>>16500214
I was recommended this video on youtube, might be worth watching.

[Anonymous No.16504696]

>>16504670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lieu_w_BOI

[Anonymous No.16504761]

>>16500214
'bout time I fire this up

[Anonymous No.16505292]

>>16500214
every junkie i know had a poor relationship with their parents. maybe come to terms with that then you will quit

[Anonymous No.16505389]

>>16503863
Of course. You have to see something, experience something, come to some epiphany. It has to happen. But one thing you can do is hope for it to happen, imagine it happening, letting it happen etc. What do we want when we say “it’s happening” or “nothing ever happens”? We’re yearning for some kind of event that changes our lives fundamentally and transforms us as individuals. Something ”biblical”. That could happen on a global scale in our lifetimes, but’s it’s much more likely to happen to individuals on a personal level. You have to seek it, though. That’s why we’re all here on /biz/. We’re all here seeking our happening. Many of us have become Christians during our stay. Just happened.

[Anonymous No.16505430]

>>16503172
70,000 meeting locations in 144 countries. tens of millions of people would tell you youre fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.16505435]

>>16504761
>2014

[Anonymous No.16505440]

>>16504761

NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.16505466]

>>16505440
The thing that bothers me the most about this is this guy is /fit/. Most junkies are scrawny little cunts I could curb stomp wearing flip flops.

[Anonymous No.16505474]

>>16504761
Nice pen faggot.

[Anonymous No.16505480]

>>16500214
Just stahp

[Anonymous No.16505570]

>>16500452
>clean for a few months
thats nothing when it comes to heroin, you need years and it will still never go away

[Anonymous No.16505590]

>>16500452
You know one thing that could really help you? Try ibogaine. It's been known to help quit.

[Anonymous No.16505598]

Get back to work xander

[Anonymous No.16505615]

>>16500214
Because you are a worthless junkie

[Anonymous No.16505710]

>>16503826
Psychedelics will definitely cure a porn addiction. How can you drain your spiritual energy towards some virtual cuckoldery? If you can't quit fapping all together just start reading erotic literature instead.

[Anonymous No.16505718]

Any exsmokers here? I smoked for 16 years. Quitting is tuff, guise.

[Anonymous No.16505729]

>>16502486
i know plenty of rave kids who got sucked into bars, myself included. "they're good for the comedown" they say, but really they knock you out and quickly develop into a dependency where you become a walking zombie and a violent asshole.

[Anonymous No.16505730]

>>16505430
it works for far less people than it doesn't. AA claim 33% but it's more like under 10%. And NA is even less

>"Alcoholics Anonymous was proclaimed the correct treatment for alcoholism 75 yeas ago, despite the absence of any scientific evidence, and we have been on the wrong path ever since," writes Dr. Dodes. "Today, almost every treatment center, physician and court system in the country uses this model, yet it has one of the worst success rates in all of medicine, hardly better than no treatment at all."

>>16505440
Maybe he's been clean for a while, I went from 138 lbs to 210 mostly muscle when i stopped using and started working out a lot