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LOL

>> No.16481763

>>16481732
Thank you boomer, very cool.

>> No.16481777

>>16481732
Is this ironic or unironic?

>> No.16481784

>>16481732
Zoomer purge when

>> No.16481786

he did all the research and takes the risk while the zoomer is just a lazy useless waste of breathable air

>> No.16481794

me on the bottom right

>> No.16481923

>>16481784
This. Boomers and zoomers need to be taken out to make room for the millenial master race.

>> No.16481936

Why do boomers act like doing research and spending money on investments is '''work'''

I swear these fucking boomers on shark tank kevin o'leary act like they're the hardest working motherfuckers in the world because they invest in hard working people and do the ''''''work''''' of researching good investments.

>> No.16481974

>>16481777
It is how red*it looks at the world

>> No.16481989

>>16481936
I do agree that it is work but I disagree when it comes to how disproportionately rich they are when their companies are even just midly successful.

>> No.16482018

Makes U think. Boomers are literally the most oppressed race in existence

>> No.16482041

>>16481989
If you ever want to be "cured" of this delusion, I suggest starting your own business, working your ass off while risking everything you've got while not even being guaranteed minimum wage and once you break even emply a bunch of entitled fucks and talk to them about being disproportionately rich

>> No.16482084

>>16482041
>muh CEO muh small bidnest
You people are all retarded. Of course a less successful business will be more stressful for the owners while a preexisting megaconglomeration has so much inertia you need to fuck up 50001 times before it collapses. Learn some balance you binary bastards.

>> No.16482136

>>16481732
>be cuckservative
>Literally defend the richest of the rich to not be taxed a few percentage more so the money is distributed more in the lower classes
>Wealth distribution between classes is highest than its ever been
>"NOOOOOOO MR GOTSTIENBERG NEEDS ANOTHER LAMBO DON'T TAX HIM MORE!!! FUCKING LIBERALS WANT SOCIALISM!!! VENEZUELA!!! USSR!! MARXISM!!"

I am unironically in the 1% and looking at all these retards who make unfer 40k per year defending higher taxes makes me sad on how delusional these fucks are. Most of my money just goes into savings, stocks or bonds. I don't some how create more jobs. Getting taxed like 5 to 10% more isn't going to kill me.

Trumps tax cuts did nothing but inflate asset prices because companies just threw it back into stock buybacks. It didn't go into creating more jobs. The number of jobs being created were exactly in line with how much it was projected before the tax cuts. All it did was create more wealth inequality.

Fuck, cuckservatives are stupid as fuck.

>> No.16482151

>don't agree to employer's conditions
>decide to work for said employer

This is your brain on oxygen deprivation.

>> No.16482155

It's a boomer tier comic, but it isn't wrong. Anyone who cries about business owners making the most money for little "busy work" are immediately outing themselves as economically illiterate.

>> No.16482178

>>16482041
Why not just buy btc and relax? You'll get better returns year over year and it's pretty cushy + 100% liquid

>> No.16482184

>>16481732
If doing the labor is so easy why did the boomer go through all this instead of just being a laborer for someone else? Both sides of this argument are full of retards.


>>16481936
It's really the investor who has the easiest deal.

>> No.16482186

>>16481786

This, what it makes my blood boil it’s that stupid comment at the end, retarded zoomer.

>> No.16482198

>>16481732
>you'll be sent to training at my expense
this is 2019, not 1955

>> No.16482221

>>16482198
This. In 2019 you are expected to pay for the training yourself and just have the training + experience somehow even for your first job.

>> No.16482238

Im just thankful my company started hiring H-1B Asians rather than fucking millennials

So much better in every way

>> No.16482248

>>16481732
never mind zoomer, i'll just hire some illegal mexicans who'll work for less than minimum wage and won't complain about the unsafe working conditions. enjoy your avocado toast.

>> No.16482251

>>16482136
>Most of my money just goes into savings, stocks or bonds.Getting taxed like 5 to 10% more isn't going to kill me.
Wait, why is your money going to yourself instead of helping undeprivileged black muslim lesbians? You don't need to wait for the government to tax you to put your money where your mouth is.

>>Literally defend the richest of the rich to not be taxed a few percentage more so the money is distributed more in the lower classes
The rich get rich on the market because they create the most value. A Steve Jobs created value for hundreds of billions of people, that's why they gave him their money. It's not for you to steal, and by stealing from the productive and giving it all away to low-IQ lazy subhumans you're just breeding more poverty. But the left was never about reducing poverty: why eliminate the demographic that votes for you?

>> No.16482254

>that machine
Just goes to show you the intelligence level of whoever made this comic

>> No.16482256

>>16482221

No, they just make you learn and get up to speed from your coworkers rather than having some kind of dedicated "training session"

>> No.16482266

>>16482251
*millions, in case it wasn't obvious

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>>16481732

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>> No.16482317

>>16482279
Inaccurate.

>> No.16482329

>>16482288
If you can't afford to pay a livable wage, you can't afford to run a business, period.

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>>16482329
And yet they do

>> No.16482339

>>16482238
>I for one welcome our chink overlords who do my job better. Surely they won't eventually replace me.
>I for one also welcome our currynigger slaves who will do my job for a fraction of the salary, even though 90% of them are barely competent and will fuck shit up, least I get a few years to coast before the entire industry dies!
Thank you for summing up why your generation destroyed the US labor market

>> No.16482354

good goys everyone, no need to shut it down :)

>> No.16482358

>>16482337
Most business owners are in tremendous amounts of debt.

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>>16482329

You sound like one of those retarded waitresses on my Facebook feed complaining about people who don't tip enough.

>If yew can't TIP then you can't GO OUT. PERIODTT!!

You're cut from the same cloth, just miserable, bossy people who can't see that avoiding such a situation is entirely within their control.

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>>16482329
Should part-time jobs not exist? Why should every job pay a "livable wage"?

>> No.16482389

>>16482288

This one bretty good thanks for the hearty chuckle.

>> No.16482399

>>16482362
The reason they bitch about it is because their employers do not pay a livable fucking wage. I busted my ass for what I have, don't compare me to some roasty just because broke ass niggers want to be able to start a business with the bank's money. If you cannot afford the upfront cost of running a business, you have no business doing any of that in the frist place.

>> No.16482419

>>16482399

Buddy, don't worry, if they're starting a business on razor thin margins and bank money there is a 99% chance they are going to crash and burn and go into debilitating debt that haunts them to their grave, no need to fuss about what they're paying their hypothetical employees. You aren't God.

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>>16482369

Fixed it for you.

>> No.16482427

>>16482369
It's not that they shouldn't exsist, the job market is so fucked up you have 70 year olds working a job that should be filled in by a teenager.
Anyone working a full time 40+ hour a week job should not have trouble paying rent and paying for other various costs of living. This is why minimum wage was started in the first place, it's been so screwed up since then, that most people would need to have 2 full time jobs to barely be able to pay their rent, that's just fucking ridiculous. And no I'm not voting for faggot jewish bernie.

>> No.16482429

>>16482358
What does that have to do with what I said?

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>>16482419
> you aren't god
Hmmmm

>> No.16482461

All of you that wandered into this fucking board from plebbit need to go back.

>> No.16482471

>>16482427
Who would thought bloating social security programs would destroy the economy. Kill yourself you piece of shit.

>> No.16482489

>>16482471
Ok boomer.

>> No.16482497

>>16481732
when the contributions of the inventor and the laborer are so intertwined that it's impossible to discern how much credit is due to every party involved, why should the inventor receive the rest of the income received from the invention after material costs are covered?

profits are unpaid wages and, therefore, theft.

>> No.16482503

>>16481936
>>16481989
How hard anyone works has nothing to do with how much anyone should get paid. The bottom line is the business owner is offering pay for certain work and
it's up to the individual to decide whether or not he will do that work for that pay. If you don't like the pay don't take the job, simple

>> No.16482514

>>16482497
Lmao, why do you retards have no balance?
With you boomers and zoomers it's either
> im the business owner and I don't want to pay shit!!
> I'm the poor employee and everything should be divided equally!!!
Just pay a fucking livable wage, it's not that hard, and you will still get profits..

>> No.16482527

>>16482503

"Hard work" isn't even valuable. Smart work is. An ox, a donkey, or a slave can work hard, who cares? The most valuable asset on the planet is an intelligent human brain.

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>>16481936

>> No.16482545

>>16482503
the fundamental premises of capitalist fair trade is that both parties have the same information.
That is never the case when employers bargain with employees
Any deal for labor or otherwise made with asymmetric information is therefore unjust.

>>16482514
>implying a compromise remedies whether a situation is just or not
>come on guys, murder might be illegal, but if I only cut off your hand, it's not that bad

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>>16482545
Lmao you boomers literally cannot comprehend a livable wage, talk about a lack of self awareness. Day of the pillow soon, followed by the day of the rope for all of your tranny grandkids and your pet niggers.

>> No.16482588

>>16482527
Yep, exactly why all the donkey work is getting replaced by automation in 10 years anyway. Then zoomers will be up in arms for double UBI

>> No.16482596

>>16482429
They cannot afford to run the business in the first place.

>> No.16482599

>>16482580
>i'm a boomer
u wut m9

>> No.16482605

>>16482580
>gibs me job
found the nigger

>> No.16482607

>>16481936
>investments is '''work'''
if it's so easy, and it's not work, then why the fuck you don't do it? you retard.
The only reason why you get so much money making a business, it's because it's NOT easy, and it's a lot of work to create one, you fucking monkey.

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>>16482588
All of which is bullish as hell for LINK.

>> No.16482619

>>16482254
It’s not literal you dumb autistic fuck. Machine, factory whatever. The tools to do the thing it’s a metaphor.

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>>16482427
We've had a comfy ride for quite a while here in the West, but we are now being made aware en masse that slavery has been a part of every successful society. We were merely outsourcing it until our degeneration lost us the influence to do so. Boomers, Gen X and Millenials are decadent scum and the upcoming recession with all these imported aggressors will not treat them nicely.

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When LINK takes off I'm going to start a bunch of nursing homes, and I'm going to make sure they are the shittiest fucking nursing homes in the world.

>> No.16482660

>>16482607
most people don't have access to becoming an "investor"/professional gambler because they need the liquidity to you know, survive.
If you weren't born with a 500k trust fund, how are you supposed to ride out the highs and lows of the market? Not everybody is going to be lucky all the time, but when you were born with purse that you can tank losses into, you're also bound to enjoy the gains when you slam a homerun.

Business owners are the same except on a smaller, middle class scale.

Capitalism works when we all start from the same stand point, but not when some people are given advantages that allows them to skim off the top of other people's winnings.

The fact that you don't realize this reveals how much your ideology depends on survivorship bias to rectify your world view. Please stop chocking on the cock of meritocracy.
Godspeed, young one, you'll need all the luck you can get.

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>>16482640
Going to start a church with my nursing homes, and when these old fucks are on their dearh beds, I'll have my priests from the church come in and have these people sign their remaining assets to my church.

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>>16482503
>If you don't like the pay don't take the job, simple

>> No.16482694

>>16481936
I can tell you've only worked at McDonald's your entire life.

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>>16482607
>if it's so easy, and it's not work, then why the fuck you don't do it? you retard

Probably because you need to have MONEY to invest? How retarded are you people hahaha?

>> No.16482726

>>16482660
So what your saying is if your gramps wanted to save his whole life and die with a smile on his face knowing his family would be comfortable - NOPE fuck you gramps, then your sons would be able to start a business or invest AND THAT'S JUST NOT FUCKING FAIR. And implying meritocracy is a bad thing lol

>> No.16482746

>>16482693
You're the kind of guy that doesn't like the pay and takes the job anyway then seethes on biz, I know

>> No.16482764

>>16482746
And you're the kind who will start a business with the bank's money and have the gall to say something like that.
This is why your grandkids are all going to be little niggers.

>> No.16482787

>>16482764
That's a very mean thing to say about my grandkids, take that back

>> No.16482789

>>16482726
yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, because gramps is dead, and the socioeconomic consequences of allowing scions and aristocracy to rule our world are more important.
who the fuck are you literally arguing for dynasties and monarchism?
Based Lichtensteinian reporting in? There's really no other excuse for this retarded middle age thinking.

>> No.16482790

>>16482580
>Day of the pillow soon
Good luck getting time of work so that you can make a half hearted attempt to break into my castle.

>> No.16482794

Boomer v zoomer shit is nothing new. It’s just meme-slang for the young generation v old generation crossed with the haves and have nots that has existed throughout most of civilization. It’s so tiresome that people consider these *new* things. Move on to something else to spend your energy thinking about, desu.

>> No.16482800

>>16482726
Capitalism isn't about merit, it's about capital.

>> No.16482802

>>16482789
No saving money, got it

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>>16482787
(You)

>> No.16482814

>>16482790
Won't have to because Mexicans and niggers will do it themselves.

>> No.16482821

>>16482804
You're being quite rude!

>> No.16482829

>>16482802
nice retarded reductionism, i sure feel pwned.

the better is question is what the fuck do you personally need savings for? and why does that savings need to be given to your specific gene line anyhow? do you not trust them to make hay in the world as is? sounds like your kids suck.

>> No.16482846

>>16482789

You fucking worthless shit. The entire point (along with your own enjoyment in life) of trying to attain success is to enhance your family and future family’s position. Legacy and all of that. You know Tywin Lannister? That man is the prototype.

>> No.16482864

>>16482722
then work and save you fucking retarded monkey zoomer with 70 iq, fuck you.
people like you should be euthanized

>> No.16482883

>>16482846
again, literally, unironically advocating for monarchism.
that's actually not what life's existence is about.
please go back to the 1400s with that tired ass shit.

>> No.16482893

>>16482829
Because people should be able to do whatever they want within their legal limits, you're saying people shouldn't be able to own assets or decide who to give them to while alive or upon death. You can give your assets to charity or burn them, I could care less, but what I do care about is the freedom to decide. Pull your head out of your commie ass

>> No.16482898

>>16482821
Not my fault your generation is a bunch of nigger loving shabbos goys.

>> No.16482912

>>16482893
i'll give you a couple minutes to read over your own post again.
it shouldn't take a smart man very long to see how your own argument undermines itself.
i feel sorry for you.

>> No.16482919

>>16482883
>that's actually not what life's existence is about.
go fuck yourself, you retard, why should you be able to decide what life's existence is all about?
what IF I want to dedicate my entire life to accumulate money? Do you have any problem with that? Do you think humans should be free and happy dancing all day long around a campfire like retards? no problem, go to forest with your zoomer-hippy dirty friends and live there like a bum, leave the rest of us to do what we want.

>> No.16482926

>>16482893
Well if you didn't want communism then you should have payed a fair wage.

>> No.16482961

>>16482919
on an epistemological level, that's not what life's about and your bullshit "everything is subjective" neo-liberal drivel isn't going to change this.
if you want to dedicate your life to accumulating money, I'm not saying you can't believe that's true, but I am saying you're wrong and short sighted.

>> No.16482974

>>16482912
>owning assets
>deciding what to do with those assets
We get it, everyone should make 50k and live in a 2 bedroom box

>> No.16482989

>>16482221
My favorite is when I ask about training they say you can do it on your own time. Yet when is there time when you are working 60+ hours a week? And then when you do take control of your time they say you are doing bare minimum? Yeah fuck off. Im buying BTC fuck fiat fuck boomers fuck (((them)))

>> No.16482991

>>16482989
Buy some LINK anon.

>> No.16483015

>>16482722
This you can come up with a bullet proof business plan but if you have no workable capital well have fun being a part of the 80% failure rate of startups. What are you gonna do beg (((shecklestein))) for a loan or work for (((sheckleberg))) to bootstrap it??

>> No.16483025

>>16482991
Seems a little late to be a stinkie tho right???

>> No.16483107

>>16482974
yeah, if you still haven't seen the contradictions yet, you're a lost cause.

>> No.16483141

>>16481936
holy fuck, do you even basics of economics?

>> No.16483150

>>16483107
I'm not contradicting myself, you're completely out of arguments so you're coping anyway you can
>owning assets
>deciding what to do with those assets
I'll let you try to tackle the evil in that again, think long and hard

>> No.16483216

>>16483150
>**ideology intensifies**
you didn't get around to reading 1984 did you?
or you did, but missed the part on doublespeak, right?
you're reaching levels of cognitive dissonance and post decision rationalization that shouldn't even be possible.

>> No.16483249

>>16483216
I'll even hold your hand: do you own anything? Maybe the shirt on your back? I bet you knitted it yourself actually. C'mon, name one thing you own

>> No.16483263

>>16483249
i don't own anything, i'm merely a custodian.
get fucked.

>> No.16483296

Every nearly every 'self made' business person I've known has been a tiresome small minded money obsessed bastard. They wouldn't start a business if it wasn't the case. This is especially true with the entrepreneurial types, the self aggrandising, self promoting, seeking investment, capital, franchising opportunities, building value in their brand etc types. I won't say all of them are stupid, but not many of them are particularly clever, they just pitch well and people follow along, sustaining them by directly investing or by working for them in their bullshit unprofessional schemes.

When I say 'self made' ... it is a certain type of person who builds this story and it nearly always is a story. Came from nothing. Through hard work rose to the top. Through hard work they'll take you along for the ride. Copy of sun tzu's art of war in the office alongside the wolf of wall street for show because they don't really trust people who read and they don't have time to read anyway because they work 25 hours a day to get ahead you know. Livid at progressive taxation, acting like they are starving trying to survive on 80k a year, hassling you for using pens 'inefficiently'. Giant ugly new money 4x4 or other method of massive cope. Blah blah blah yeah my baby just loves olives weird right?

My boss is one. He has no marketable skills or abilities. He just has money which he got from being made redundant from his office job. His success is built entirely upon convincing capable people to come work for him based upon a dream. In return he tries to bully you and tell you exactly how to do everything. Most people leave and he tries to tell everybody they were incompetent or worthless in some way which isn't true.

>> No.16483297

>>16483025
Not at all.
Was it a little too late to buy btc at 1$ when it was .01 cent before?

>> No.16483314

>>16483263
You're so far up your own commie ass there's no reasoning with you, I give up, you win and I've conformed. When's the drumb circle? I'd love to hold hands and talk about how we're all a collective stream of energy

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>>16483263
You're a cuck is what you are.

I own everything. I own you, I own your opposite poster, I own this conversation, this thread, and this board. Fuck commies.

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>>16482018
Underrated post. Well meme'd, fren

>> No.16483327

I think everyone can agree CEOs deserve to make the most money in a company, but clearly the wealth inequality of society has grown too large, and there needs to be some kind of reform because public concern over this isn't going away.

>> No.16483347

>>16483296
Massive anecdotal cope.

>> No.16483358

>>16483319
I agree, you own this board, just as much as I do.
And in the mean time, we are both providing custody of it's quality in equal measures.
The only issue is that fundamentally, this fact angers you.

>> No.16483399

>>16481732
If you post his on reddit you'll get downvoted into oblivion and your entire country rangebanned.

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I really doubt a substantial proportion of the boomers echoing this sentiment are business owners, much less invested in anything besides their shitty ass 401(k).
Business intelligence is a grind, business analysis is a fake job and boomers would say so too if they had any idea what it even entailed. I was required to complete a business analsysis consulting contract my senior year of undergrad. You're basically a weatherman and when you're wrong the excuse is "well shit doggy, we can't tell the future now can we?"

>> No.16483426

>>16483399
Reddit has plenty of libertarian cuckholds

>> No.16483468

>>16481786
You won't make it. Only people who knows this system is a scam can make it.
Keep dreaming, and be prepared to have a shitty life.

>> No.16483575

>>16483468
(...)By the way, the Capital is already in the hand of a few. It's been like this for centuries already.

>> No.16483582

>>16483575
(...) You are americone dream level.

>> No.16483657

>>16482136
Stay mad libcuck

>> No.16483670

>>16483347
I'm sorry man, but honestly ... above average intelligence and good to very good ability isn't a given in this nations army of small to medium business owners. Being a mean spirited exploitative son of a bitch driven by the desire to accumulate money however usually is.

You don't need to be good at a thing, just convince somebody who is to do it for you for less than it is worth and pocket the difference. Various industries require a minimum investment for means of production and wonderful red tape, but that is the bit you always need, not ability.

My boss is convinced he is the hardest and smartest worker on earth. It is central to his entire narrative. Everybody is stupid to him. Everybody incompetent. This aren't the thoughts of a intelligent, rational, reflective, self aware individual. You cannot sustain such a world view when overtly burdened with intellect.

My experience has been that people who are genuinely good at something seek to do that thing because it is what they are passionate about and it is what brings them happiness. The boss is a necessary evil, rationalised as the means to an end. From the perspective of the boss everybody is just interested in money because that is often all they care about.

Money is really boring. People who are interested in money are really boring. People who enjoy displaying wealth and jockey for position because of feelings of superiority or inferiority are really boring. The whole mindset of being better or worse than somebody else is really boring to me.

Of course that is an ideal, but really I celebrate those who are really good at something. I support people who are bad at something. But I try not to feel superior or inferior or assume because it is like a limiting cage for the mind.

>> No.16483725

People arguing for more equal distribution of wealth aren't trying to steal from the rich because they want something for nothing. They have exactly the same mindset as the wealthy ... in that they want to keep as much of what they produce as possible and they feel more of the impact of taxation because it impacts upon their basic needs rather than their disposable income. Most people I know who are doing ok stop spending past a certain point and start investing instead, they don't do anything particularly constructive with the surplus.

>> No.16483752

>>16483670
sounds like your boss is much smarter than you at least

>> No.16483765

>>16482136
>money in banks and stocks just sits there and does nothing

based retard

>> No.16483820

>>16482329
If you s.oy freaks want to make more money be able to afford to own home and start families then how about stop supporting mass immigration and sucking off jewish cock 24/7. The only way you can get what you want is by banning all niggers and Jews. This is the reality. If you accept this reality then you don’t have a say in how you get paid for your labour. You are the problem

>> No.16483821

>>16481732
>I paid some money to get royalty in a company
>money used to buy the equipment necessary and to cover a years worth of expenses
>someone else came up with the idea
>someone else did the market research
>someone else designed it
>someone else did the math
>of course I'm entitled to money!!!!!
boomers are worse than (((bankers)))

>> No.16483829

>>16483820
>If you *Don’t* accept this reality then you don’t have a say in how you get paid for your labour. You are the problem

Edit: typo

>> No.16483951

Marxists be like:
>Bro trust me I just wanna redistribute your wealth and give you a living a wage
But in reality they be like:
>I wanna mass migrate people from third world countries like the Dominican Republic into your town so they can sell heroin and do gang crimes

>> No.16484340

>>16483670
>I celebrate those who are really good at something.
Capitalism scam is to make those people work for the owner of the mean of production.

>> No.16484531

>>16483951
Quote from Marx about mass immigration please.

>> No.16484544

>>16483820
Lmao I was speaking agaisnt immigration and outsourced labor, were on the same side anon.

>> No.16484569

>>16483820
It doesn't work like that. Companies will just outsource more. With Capitalism, we are literally in a dead end.

>> No.16484578

>>16484531
capitalism wants cheap labor force. That's a core marxist tenet

>> No.16484691

>>16483263
so you don't own your own body?

>> No.16484998

>>16482288
I like this scuffed format more than the shitty boomer format from OP

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