/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.16431561]

At the very core, what motivates humans? Capitalism or altruism?

[Anonymous No.16431599]

>>16431561
Greed fpbp

[Anonymous No.16431603]

Personal gain
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing

[Anonymous No.16431610]

>>16431599
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[Anonymous No.16431654]

I think it's goofy to assign one motive to all humans.

Imagine what a joke stock trading would be if you could have one golden rule to estimate how people will act.

Other humans are ultimately unknowable, and that's ok. It'd be mad boring otherwise.

[Anonymous No.16431687]

>>16431654
at the very core i believe most (99.9%) are selfish, wouldnt you agree?

[Anonymous No.16431732]

>>16431687
Uh, not really to be honest!

This isn't a diss at all, but maybe we just hang with different crowds, I often feel my friends are far more altruistic than I, and I still think I'm a pretty decently empathetic person.

However, for every friend I have that cooks for strangers, I know there's someone out there who would vote to have their own healthcare taken away, just to "get at" someone they feel shouldn't have it, so I just think people of similar minds tend to congregate.

[Anonymous No.16431754]

>>16431732
>cooking for strangers
are we talking about an everyday thing or once in a while occurence? would those same friends cook for a group of strangers instead of their own family?

[Anonymous No.16431779]

>>16431561
COOM

[Anonymous No.16431836]

blackpill: capitalism is altruism
high time preference brainlets practice capitalism without altruism or altruism without capitalism, see short term results from that, conclude their way is the way
high IQ chads realise on a long term horizon, an altruistic approach to capitalism generates the most profits and maximizes happiness for all parties

[Anonymous No.16431838]

>>16431561
If they are sapient, it depends on what their long-range goals are. Whatever brings them towards those goals is what motivates them.

For the other people, whatever satisfies their immediate needs. Usually sex or money, or both.

[Anonymous No.16431856]

>>16431779
forgot this

[Anonymous No.16431863]

>>16431779
kek

[Anonymous No.16431867]

fear of death

[Anonymous No.16431882]

>>16431561
altruism created capitalism, but just like there are people in your life that will try to use or take advantage of you, there are also some companies in a free market that do the same. I.E. tobacco companies

because of this there are companies that also abuse capitalism to make a quick buck and not to benefit others. But it depends in your mind if the good outweighs the bad parts of capitalism

[Anonymous No.16431886]

>>16431754
I mean, not every day but yeah, cases I was thinking include
1. Friend A has been cooking for an old disabled divorcee like once every other week for years, no benefit in that.

2. Friend B raises money non-stop for various drug/fare-beating prisoner's bail, they don't personally know these people and no benefit to them

3. Friend C has housed a homeless woman for months now, no benefit in that.

Hell, my mom raises abandoned animals at great personal cost, and those rabbits ain't ever paying her back. Some folks just do things because it helps. Plenty others will do something just because it hurts someone. Too many humans for them all to behave the same way.

>>16431836
Which is why corporations are so famously altruistic, right?

[Anonymous No.16431887]

>>16431561
Brappers and milkers.

[Anonymous No.16431897]

>>16431561
Power

[Anonymous No.16431946]

love of nation and country used to be a huge motivator. now it's been replaced with empty consumerism, which works for some people, but not others, as evidenced by our drug and suicide epidemic.

[Anonymous No.16431976]

>>16431732
Please take this as a diss but you and your friends sound like retarded gay faggots.

[Anonymous No.16431990]

>>16431886
>hur capitalism
>hur healthcare
>hur economic cuckoldry
Confirmed for a gay faggot soi boi

[Anonymous No.16431997]

>>16431561
Survival.

[Anonymous No.16431999]

>>16431561
Incentives

[Anonymous No.16432005]

>>16431561
The competition for status.

What you call "altruism" is a means of flexing status in a social system built on conspicuous virtue; virtue signalling.

[Anonymous No.16432028]

>>16431999
that's like saying water is wet, dingus

[Anonymous No.16432147]

>>16431976
>>16431990
Consider: what you consider to be exceptional, was just the basics of hospitality to your grand-parents. This "Me First, No One Else Later" modern American mentality only benefits bankers.

You've been robbed of the social contract owed to us all, and gain nothing by pretending it's *tough* to hoard your shit. It's just miserly, a trait you claim to detest in others.

Seriously, it's cucked to think acting like your monied overlords buys you escape from their schemes. You still won't get a pension, but now you've been fooled into not fighting for others pensions, making your own chances of liberation nill.

Why would you want to live in a world where the default is greed? It's not natural, but you've accepted it. Why?

[Anonymous No.16432196]

Aiding a positive society in which certain desirable things are attainable (like a non-roastie girlfriend), which then coincides with you happily continuing working in it even if you were to turn said desirable things down. But in this situation, in which you could take it if you wanted, you are in a healthy state of mind and position of power. Regardless of whether or not you accept these things in the end.

[Anonymous No.16432259]

>>16431779
Fucking this. At the end if the day, all decisions are made either directly or indirectly in the pursuit of spilling your seed, preferably into something that will also make a baby.

[Anonymous No.16432268]

>>16431561
the thing that pumps the most dopamine is the final answer.

also which is more powerful in us: greed or curiosity?

[Anonymous No.16432283]

>>16431599
kekeesh

[Anonymous No.16432288]

>>16432147

>the change starts with me *beep boop*

[Anonymous No.16432310]

>>16431561
Europeans - altruism
Jews - individualism (right to enslave everybody else)
Africans - pussyism
Rest - capitalism

[Anonymous No.16432372]

>>16432147
What's cucked is donating your time to cook food for an old roastie whore because you think she might one day fuck you. Its also cucked to donate money to niggers and outside groups.

Its always funny how you totally not communists always come to this board all at the same time.

[Anonymous No.16432373]

>>16431997
he said what motivates humans, survival is not a motivation, it's a biological instinct that people follow without even realizing. if people create a business, it's to get money, not for surviving. people are rewarded dopamine for good thing they do for the gene's survival. maybe your answer was true 30k years ago, but now, basic needs are easily fulfilled. people no longer aim for survival, but for happiness. that's because we're too dumb to figure out how to not die at all.

[Anonymous No.16432381]

>>16432147
>Greed isn't natural
I almost missed that one. Greed is entirely natural and always has been.

[Anonymous No.16432404]

>>16432288
>If I isolate myself from society, then no one can call me gay!

But seriously, do you think that benefits anyone but the masters of your society? They want you lonely. They want you to help no one, and no one to help you.

>>16432372
Dude, she's like 80. Believe it or not, pussy isn't a rare resource. Incels always outing themselves.

[Anonymous No.16432412]

Sex is the primary motivation of all men

[Anonymous No.16432442]

>>16432028
No its not. Its literally the answer to OPs question. Not everything is motivated by monetary or emotional gain, but which ever one wins out in decision making had the largest incentive to the person making the decision.

Incentives are the only reason Bitcoin (SV) works.

[Anonymous No.16432533]

>>16432442
incentive can be anything, the question is to name this thing in particular, dingus

[Anonymous No.16432964]

>>16432533
That doesn't make sense because as I already explained there isnt just one thing that incentivizes us to act. However incentives to act are the basis for everything we do.

[Anonymous No.16433273]

>>16432964
there is one particular thing that motivates us the most on average and that's the question of the topic