/BSVG/ - Bitcoin SV General

[Anonymous No.16385403]

(previous thread >>16378072)

“The nature of Bitcoin is such that once version 0.1 was released, the core design was set in stone for the rest of its lifetime.”

– Satoshi Nakamoto

Bitcoin SV is the original Bitcoin. It restores the original Bitcoin protocol, will keep it stable, and allow it to massively scale. Bitcoin SV will maintain the vision set out by Satoshi Nakamoto’s white paper in 2008: Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System.

Links:
https://bitcoinblocks.live/
https://coin.dance/

https://youtu.be/IOlvOiGPPio (The Crypto Blackpill)

https://archive.is/kjuLi (The Satoshi Affair)

https://youtu.be/i95kSYVUJIo (Genesis of a New Century)

[Anonymous No.16385715]

Has anyone tried this yet ?

[Anonymous No.16385876]

>>16385403
CSW 2016-present and Trump 2015-present are victims of over the top derangement by social media influencer astroturfing campaigns led by closet and open communists, tech oligarchs, the corrupt dc swamp, and moloch-worshipping pedophile tranny spirit cookers
uncanny similarities in both the tactics used against them and their common enemies
fight on brothers and sisters

[Anonymous No.16385892]

>>16385715
what is it
give source

[Anonymous No.16386451]

Bump

[Anonymous No.16386484]

>>16385876
that pic is big if true

[Anonymous No.16386509]

>>16386484
shopped

[Anonymous No.16386521]

>>16385892

TrueDEX

[Anonymous No.16387014]

Why is nothing fuckin happening with the price

[Anonymous No.16387031]

>>16385876
Redpilled

[Anonymous No.16387136]

>>16387014
So weak handed fags sell

[Anonymous No.16387149]

>>16385403
WHEN WILL THIS SHITCOIN PUMP I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE I WANT TO QUIT WAGING

[Anonymous No.16387186]

>>16387014
>>16387149
Success isn't measured in pumps. We're in a decades long game.

[Anonymous No.16387231]

bitcoin cash sv is a fork of a fork of the real bitcoin. bitcoin was never meant to be a datadump for useless crap like weather data.

enjoy bagholding to zero.

enjoy poverty.

[Anonymous No.16387243]

>>16387186
i don't think sv survives two halvings but okay. it's entirely possible it will not survive the next one.

[Anonymous No.16387285]

>>16387231
>stop developing creating utility for Bitcoin, only I decide what goes on chain

>>16387243
Transaction rate is growing exponentially. SV will likely make up most of the difference soon enough.

[Anonymous No.16387317]

>>16387243
>Transaction rate is growing exponentially
doesn't really matter in itself it's worthless just expense.
>SV will likely make up most of the difference soon enough
doesn't look like it.
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/sentinusd-btc-bsv.html#log
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionvalue-btc-bsv.html#log
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-btc-bsv.html#log
seems like sv is not transacting value also the fees miners are getting are absolutely negligible compared to bitcoins.
sv is fucking doomed.

[Anonymous No.16387334]

HDD's can't write a terabyte every 10 minutes

you'll need something like https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-SN750-250GB-Internal-Gaming/dp/B07M64QXMN/?tag=edit-tech-round-up-20&ascsubtag=f8e506d7-62b0-4cd2-8ec1-12004a0463fa and you'll need one every 10 minutes

144 blocks a day x 365 days = 52,560 x $207.99 = $10,931,954.40 a year

[Anonymous No.16387355]

>>16387334
yeah i bet the google and amazon data warehouses are full of those m8
top brainlet

[Anonymous No.16387365]

>>16387355
they are probably full of last years best value drives. but that's beside the point really.

the point is blockchain data is largely worthless. it's a mounting expense with absolutely zero benefit.

[Anonymous No.16387366]

>>16387317
>he thinks BitCoin is just payments

Fucking laggards. Most of the transactions are push data. It'll probably always be that way. It makes no difference to miners if you send a billion dollars or a penny. The fees are the same. What matters to miners is volume of transactions and every app or app in development create a fuck load of transactions. Keep not getting it though.

[Anonymous No.16387374]

>>16387365
>they are probably full of last years best value drives
>implying miners don't use top notch equipment to stay competitive

You people have no idea how this stuff works.

[Anonymous No.16387405]

>>16387374
i meant google and amazon obviously miners don't really give a fuck. they will use whatever they get for free.

[Anonymous No.16387423]

>>16387366
>What matters to miners is volume of transactions
no what matters to miners is fee block size is only an expense or a hindrance to them. if the blocks are fuckhuge and fees are negligible miners are better off mining empty blocks or largely empty blocks. as most sv miners won't include but a few tx with priority fee as is.

you don't get it but you will bitcoin as in btc already won.

[Anonymous No.16387428]

>>16386509
>seething with rage over two powerful and brilliant men leading an epic battle against evil ---> "shopped"

[Anonymous No.16387467]

Why is it a fork of bch instead of btc, seems kind of fishy to me

[Anonymous No.16387485]

>>16387467
why ever would anyone include a shitstain like bitcoin gold on the scaling competitor forks picture? there are literally 50 forks of btc that could be just as easily included.

[Anonymous No.16387486]

>>16387423
2GB block rewards 28 BSV in fees. You faggots are already crying about 1TB blocks. You're not getting it. No business will ever adopt the shitcoin known as BTC in any serious way. It certainly cannot be used for applications and backend solution. Hodling and shitcoin trading is all it doesn't provide solutions for businesses.

[Anonymous No.16387495]

>>16387486
>2GB block rewards 28 BSV in fees
not gonna happen it will be around 0.2 sv you know why? because a unit of space in an unbound block is infinitely cheap.

[Anonymous No.16387499]

>>16387485
By that logic why include BTC? It's not a competitor at all when it comes to scale. Actually nothing competes with SV in those terms.

[Anonymous No.16387517]

>>16387495
sorry 0.1 not 0.2 my mistake

[Anonymous No.16387520]

>>16387495
>unbounded means free

Kek

[Anonymous No.16387525]

>>16387499
of course it is small blocks is a complete and impeccable scaling philosophy.

[Anonymous No.16387536]

>>16387520
we will talk some more about this after the halving when most hash disappears from sv.

[Anonymous No.16387538]

>>16387486
>You faggots are already crying about 1TB blocks. You're not getting it.
storing 1TB every 10 minutes in a decentralized fashion is IMPOSSIBLE

[Anonymous No.16387548]

>>16387538
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.16387571]

>>16387538
>decentralized

[Anonymous No.16387582]

>>16387538
wait you think sv cucks want decentralization?
they are completely fine with nchain keeping all the data on it's cloud storage. they are okay with a boot licking trustful permissioned service so long it has higher tx/s than litecoin.

[Anonymous No.16387591]

>>16385403
when to moon sirs

[Anonymous No.16387606]

>>16387536
I can already tell you what's going to happen. Bch halves first. It'll probably die not long after. Then SV halves. Hash will drop pretty hard, transactions will keep it afloat, unlike bch. Then BTC halves and total hash across all three forks drops sharply.

The only things to consider are price and transaction volume. Best we can do is extrapolate transaction volume because it's had a pretty steady climb and sees no reason to stop. Price is a guess. For BTC to survive this it needs to have a very high price. SV just needs to keep providing utility and price will follow. All BTC has is hodl.

[Anonymous No.16387620]

>>16387467
because BSV is bitcoin cash but they didn't get to keep the ticker. BCH has since strayed from the path.

and as well all know bitcoin cash was bitcoin but didn't get to keep the ticker. it was a necessity to avoid SegWit, that thing is a mess. anyone thinking it was a good idea to implement segwit instead of just raising the max block size is either mislead or has ulterior motives. try to wrap your head around the concept of block weight to get a taste of how bad segwit is.

in february BSV will go back to the way bitcoin was originally. i don't really agree with removing Pay-to-Script-Hash transactions but it's not something i really used myself so whatever

[Anonymous No.16387632]

>>16387620
I like the new ticker. BCH looks like bitch.

[Anonymous No.16387649]

>>16387538

No, you're just a socialist

[Anonymous No.16387704]

>>16387606
>transactions will keep it afloat, unlike bch
actually it's worse positioned in that regard than even bch. less value transacted less fees.

[Anonymous No.16387711]

>>16387620
>i don't really agree with removing Pay-to-Script-Hash transactions but it's not something i really used myself so whatever
that's just pure dogmatism at this point.

[Anonymous No.16387716]

>>16387704
Imagine thinking you understand Bitcoin and think amount of Bitcoin in a transaction effects the fee of the transaction even after already being told that it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.16387727]

>>16387632
BSV looks better but i was fine with BCH since it could be used in humorous ways.

[Anonymous No.16387736]

>>16387711
>that's just pure dogmatism at this point.
what do you mean? me saying whatever or the reason why they are removing it?

[Anonymous No.16387746]

>>16387716
you still don't get it? miners are in it for the profit. total transaction fee in usd is the only thing that matters long term. and sv is even worse positioned than bch which absolutely sucks ass compared to the real bitcoin. and we are talking about magnitudes not something you can close in with a few tx heaped on.

[Anonymous No.16387758]

>>16387736
P2SH only exists as a work around. It wouldn't have happened if certant OP codes weren't removed in the first place. So basically it's an inefficiency and possible security issue that doesn't need to exist when you have the original protocol. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.16387761]

>>16387736
they are removing it because of dogmatism. altho it is true that p2sh changed bitcoin fundamentally and irrevocably more than any other fork did. but decidedly in a good way.

[Anonymous No.16387770]

>>16387758
you are wrong. but whatever.
>The purpose of P2SH, according to Andresen: 'Is to move the responsibility for supplying the conditions to redeem a transaction from the sender of the funds to the redeemer'. With P2SH transactions, the locking script is replaced with a redeem script hash.

[Anonymous No.16387792]

>>16387758
>>16387761
did craig blog about why P2SH needs to go? i can't remember if they gave a technical reason or not. or maybe it's a patent reason, or a legal reason.

[Anonymous No.16387823]

>>16387792
dogmatism, the main argument of curry cashies is that in the whitepaper satoshi wrote a coin is a chain of signatures. now p2sh pretty obviously breaks that. but since bitcoins foist release it actually paid to script that executed to true. so i'm not sure what they are actually planning on gaining about this. p2sh allows for a client to send to an address it does not recognize the locking script of. it actually doesn't have to give a fuck. it's just an address he sends to. let the receiver provide the unlock script.

[Anonymous No.16387848]

>>16387770
Yeah it was pretty much implemented for multisig and other functionality. Yet only came to be because of other functionality was taken out. It's a work around.

[Anonymous No.16387881]

>>16387823
yes i know what it is. i still wonder if craig want to get rid of it for more reasons than it's not in the whitepaper.

[Anonymous No.16387887]

>>16387746
BTC is trending down in price. There is nothing that will drive that price up. Hodling only goes so far and is a niche use case and gets more and more diminished the more congested the network gets. However improving ERP systems and EDI while also retraining on the supply fundamentals is a massive driver in price. We are only just now after 10 fucking years opening up Bitcoin for business.

[Anonymous No.16387895]

>>16387881
Gotchu senpai

https://medium.com/@craig_10243/sun-setting-p2sh-8b3c08f271c0

[Anonymous No.16387933]

So basically the ability to accept nonstandard scripts was removed from BTC and P2SH was implemented as a work around. Using P2SH is Bitcoin with extra steps. Just like Segwit, Lightning, Sidechains, etc. Unnecessary bloat that gets in the way of a solid stable protocol and exists for basically no other reason than to get in the way.

[Anonymous No.16387952]

>>16387895
>All consensus rules in Bitcoin will be handled using the only way that works: PoW and hard forks.
if only that were true we would never had bch to begin with let alone sv.

[Anonymous No.16387976]

>>16387952
We wouldn't have needed to because we wouldn't have had Segwit. We might still be in a battle over betting the blocks unbounded though.

[Anonymous No.16387987]

>>16387895
yeah read it it's the usual bollocks with a few true premises that lead to false conclusions. typical craig. but he is right in the soft fork thing. p2sh allows backwards compatibility and building on top of a locked in protocol. which he obviously does not want.

[Anonymous No.16388018]

>>16387976
>the ability to accept nonstandard scripts was removed from BTC and P2SH was implemented as a work around
just out of curiosity why do you think the sender should decide (with a fucking non standard script) how an address unlocks funds? how does that even make sense in your head?

[Anonymous No.16388043]

>>16387895
thanks, found it myself and just finished reading. though i did it on his homepage.
https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/sun-setting-p2sh/

really seems like the reason given is just that "this thing is not supposed to be in bitcoin". that there's no technical reason why it's pad to have P2SH.
if i'd have to guess i think it's more likely it has to do with some patent or legal reason rather than just being ideologically motivated.

[Anonymous No.16388075]

>>16388043
>really seems like the reason given is just that "this thing is not supposed to be in bitcoin". that there's no technical reason why it's pad to have P2SH.
You should read it one more time. He clearly gives the technical reason for why p2sh is bad. mmkay?

[Anonymous No.16388090]

>>16387987
>building on top of a locked in protocol. which he obviously does not want
Then why are people building in Mass on BSV?

>>16388018
When did I say that?

[Anonymous No.16388215]

>>16388075
tell me if it's so clear. all i see is "P2SH doesn't improve security", that's not a technical reason to remove an alternative feature.

[Anonymous No.16388274]

>>16388215
>tell me if it's so clear
Satoshis blog post explains it perfectly fine. Apply yourself. Effort. Proof Of Work etc

[Anonymous No.16388282]

>>16387231
Your post is very kosher-like

[Anonymous No.16388293]

>>16387366
Maybe these anons aren’t even human idk anymore the cope posting going on from btc fags is nuts

[Anonymous No.16388304]

>>16387538
Commie stfu

[Anonymous No.16388386]

>>16388274
holy shit not this cunt reply again, i'm so fucking done. why don't YOU apply a fucking bullet to your brain? it's not fucking clear and you obviously have no fucking clue what to say because there's NO CLEAR TECHNICAL REASON IN THAT ARTICLE. but you don't to fucking admit that because you want the price to go up so you can dump your bag. it's not the fucking first time i try to discuss in a BSV thread and at the FIRST FUCKING SIGN of ANY questioning you get something like your bullshit fucking shit stain piece of nigger iq reply about "do your own research".
point. the. fucking. clear. reason. out. faggot. i see through your fucking diarrhea.

[Anonymous No.16388395]

>>16388090
>When did I say that?
>>16387933
>So basically the ability to accept nonstandard scripts was removed from BTC and P2SH was implemented as a work around. Using P2SH is Bitcoin with extra steps.

>Then why are people building in Mass on BSV?
that's just what you guys are saying all the time but we ain't seeing shit.

[Anonymous No.16388472]

What is even going on?

[Anonymous No.16388606]

>>16388386
SEETHING!

[Anonymous No.16388643]

Is there any way I can do like a hedge on my BSV? I honestly don't know what to make of what's going on lately.

[Anonymous No.16388655]

>>16388386
You are a complete faggot anon. It must suck to be you

[Anonymous No.16388736]

>>16385403
should i buy it anons?

[Anonymous No.16388800]

>>16388736
Do it. Then tell me how to hedge my bsv, please!

[Anonymous No.16388873]

>>16388800

[Anonymous No.16389194]

>>16388736
D...did you do anon?

[Anonymous No.16389332]

>>16388386
Kill yourself dude, fucking insufferable cunt.

[Anonymous No.16389654]

imagine being a troll in this thread and having the ignorance to think you know bitcoin better than the guy who created it

[Anonymous No.16389831]

>>16389654
imagine thinking craig is actually satoshi and not some random aussi shitposter faggot...

[Anonymous No.16389845]

>>16389831
one way to find out who is most likely to be satoshi is to find out who all the commie globalist kikes criticize, but you already knew that didn't you

[Anonymous No.16389864]

>>16389845
no the only way to find out is having them sign with the right keys the right way. otherwise it would be putin or some other boomer cuck by your retarded definition.

[Anonymous No.16389900]

>>16389845
also name one example a commie globalist kike even acknowledged craigs existence let alone contemplated his identity? frankly nobody outside of crypto even knows his fucking name.

[Anonymous No.16390053]

>>16389864

Why does it matter? Either way, him and Calvin have been the largest private BTC miners for years and have explicitly said they're going to dump for BSV. if you're not positioning yourself for this then you clearly don't want to make money in this market

[Anonymous No.16390092]

>>16390053
>Either way, him and Calvin have been the largest private BTC miners for years
not even close

[Anonymous No.16390129]

>>16390092

You do know what private means right?

[Anonymous No.16390139]

>>16390129
dude every miner is private
the 2% hashrate divided among 3 chains calvin has is almost nothing.

[Anonymous No.16390157]

>>16389900
Boo

[Anonymous No.16390165]

>>16390139

Pools are not private, you're an idiot.

>2%

The absolute state

[Anonymous No.16390196]

>>16390165
every miner in the pools are private no state mines bitcoin whatsoever anyways.

[Anonymous No.16390202]

>>16390165
2% is what they have in physical control (not all their own hash btw some on lease) they just host it.

[Anonymous No.16390565]

>no one mentioning Rawpool

[Anonymous No.16390926]

>>16390565

?

[Anonymous No.16391005]

Bump

[Anonymous No.16391437]

Going through some old folders...

[Anonymous No.16391817]

keep it going

[Anonymous No.16391986]

>>16391437

Better version

[Anonymous No.16392086]

>>16391986
Please continue

[Anonymous No.16392137]

Work Is Infinite…
By Craig Wright | 25 Nov 2019 | Economics

Many in Silicon Valley and others like to promote the false concept of artificial intelligence (AI) and, specifically, how AI and automation will replace people. There is one reason they do so: to confuse people and allow a few technocrats to maintain control. Machine learning or statistical learning is about the most unintelligent thing in the universe. What it does is it allows individuals in positions of power to hide behind algorithms. It allows them to create a system that acts upon their will and say that it is really the will of a machine. But no machine has values or a will; no machine has a desire.

Whether we talk about Marx or Keynes, the concept of automation leading to too much leisure and thus the concept of the privileged class needing to lead the masses in accordance with the Fabian socialist ideal are not new. In Silicon Valley, the same idea has been turned into the techno-communist dystopia as they seek to pull the wool over our eyes and create a world based on control and selling our information.

In a capitalist society, unemployment occurs when people don’t want to take up a role they should take up, or when they don’t want to accept that they may not earn as much. The lie that you have been fed concerning capitalism is that capitalism is about the capitalist. It isn’t.

Capitalism is about the entrepreneur.

[Anonymous No.16392148]

>>16392137
The entrepreneur creates new systems, which don’t need to present a massive scientific breakthrough but can even form something as simple as a business process that allows them to improve society. To do so, they require capital as investment. Such investment is all too often confused with vulture capital, yet the majority of capital investment is of a different nature, which includes family resources, banks, or the money that is used when people buy franchises or start new businesses.

Successful entrepreneurs may become capitalists in time. But the reality is that most people from the middle class are already capitalists; you become one when you invest money, and even when you hold a savings and investment plan. What few people understand is that the amount of work is unbounded. There will never be a shortage of work, nor of goods. It always comes down to a trade-off: Are you willing to work for what is being offered? Is the work being applied correctly and where it brings the most benefit? Are you wasting effort?

This is where capitalism benefits. It is a system that works with rules and within order. It is a means of measuring the wants and desires, that change moment by moment, of a non-uniform mass of people and a means of sorting conflicts between what people want and what is available.

[Anonymous No.16392280]

>>16392137
The ability to have zero unemployment exists right now. It doesn’t occur because we allow people to have free choice. We allow people to have the option not to work. And it is an option because there are always alternatives. In a society that has a safety net, people choose not to work rather than work. People choose to stay where they live and near their families rather than move. Such choices are all open to some, but not to others. For many of the poor people on earth, the option of staying in one place and not taking up migratory employment is unavailable. And yet, it is because we are spoilt with choice in the West that we choose to live as if we had no options.

In the West, nobody is restricted from education. You may say otherwise, but the reality is that every hour of watching reality TV, taking Instagram pictures, or checking Facebook updates is an hour that could be spent bettering oneself. With the availability of free education, with libraries and, more importantly, online access to some of the most challenging works in human history for no cost, the only excuse is one that lies with oneself.

Some will argue in terms of privilege. They will tell you that it’s not fair because they come from the minority of the weak. What we see is a form of self-pity from people who refused to take action to improve themselves. In every city, jobs exist that nobody wants to do.

[Anonymous No.16392286]

>>16392137
Each and every time you decide it would be simpler to sit down and grab a beer and watch television, you bypass an opportunity to read a great book, to study a technical problem, and to educate yourself further. Each time you come home from a job you don’t like and slouch about, you make a decision to accept the life you have. Herein lies also the reason why many people join protest movements. It’s simple, and it allows them to pretend they’re doing something when they’re really being lazy. It doesn’t require much thought to hand out leaflets and to join a religion, for much of what people talk about as true problems makes for a religion.

Those who are part of cult-like movements such as Extinction Rebellion are simplistic fools who would not be able to get their own life in order and rather than attempting to do so, choose a religion based on hate and pessimism. For such cults are nothing more than religions. They allow individuals to believe that they are doing something, when in fact they are nihilistic and destructive. They let people pretend to take up arms for what they perceive is their true calling, when in fact they are merely tilting at windmills. Mostly, it becomes an excuse. It’s an excuse to say that they don’t need to change because problems exist outside of them. It’s an excuse where they can say that it’s not their fault. They can blame others and say that society is wrong rather than look close to home and decide to fix things themselves first.

[Anonymous No.16392294]

>>16392137
Those who are part of movements such as Extinction Rebellion and the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement simply hate. They hate themselves, and because of they do, they take it out against others. Rather than learning, building, and creating a better society, they simply desire to tear it down and end it. There is nothing without humanity that matters. Anthropomorphising the earth as Gaia simply fails to recognise that the earth is not a living entity and that the earth does not have desire. The reality is that humans and only humans have developed a conscious desire and ability that allow us to explore and develop; no animal has ever done so other than us. In time, all life on earth will end unless we develop technology to change it.

If humanity disappeared tomorrow, in time, so will the earth. And at this stage of the universe, at this stage of the planet, there will not be something else coming to replace us.

There is one thing that has been true throughout the existence of humanity: we create. And in doing so, we find solutions to all of the problems that exist.

[Anonymous No.16392303]

>>16392137
We Are Not in an Era of Decline.

The world is at the start of a golden age. Every year is better. Every day is better. Every single day that passes leads to less poverty, more vaccinations, healthier lifespans, and more freedom throughout the world. Some will try and tell you otherwise, but the facts of the matter speak for themselves.

It remains that there is much to do, but there will always be much to do. No matter how much we do, there will be more to do. Yet, in the last two decades, extreme poverty has been cut in half. Not only that, we have a larger population, and we have reduced the number of people in poverty. The earth will not collapse with 10 billion people. In fact, if 100 billion people existed today, they would be fed and clothed, and the earth would not be collapsing. In the past 10,000 years, everything that humanity could want has improved. Access to clean water, access to healthcare, literally anything you can name has improved. Comparing what you have to the best of what is available is not the same as comparing what you have now to what was available 20 years, 50 years, or 100 years ago. In the West, the richest of us 100 years ago had less access to many things we take for granted than an uneducated tradesman does today.

[Anonymous No.16392308]

>>16392137
The true answer, the true solution to all our problems is to do what we have been doing for the last 10,000 years: to remain human. To invent new things, to create new things, and to form solutions. The only way we fail is to accept the nihilistic ideas of those who hate humanity and all that they are and seek a world without our existence. One where they have destroyed humanity in a mass suicide, so that they can argue that they won’t be alone. It’s one associated with Extinction Rebellion and all who follow them—those who seek comfort in a cult because it’s simple. As they are placated and they don’t need to work hard, they don’t need to take responsibility; they can blame others, and so they blame business and capitalism and government. It stems from a mentality that lets people focus on the external, and so rather than changing themselves, rather than learning and educating and developing new solutions, they allow themselves to live in a world where they can simply blame and hate.

In the press, they say: “If it bleeds, it leads.” In an endless quest for click-bait advertising, we have been indoctrinated to believe a falsely pessimistic view of society in the world. In 2017, we had the first year of no crash of any commercial passenger plane at all. Yet, we look at the few isolated instances as if they were the norm.

“Weird Al” Yankovic summarises it well in his parody song First World Problems, with lines such as, “The thread count on these cotton sheets has got me itching,” and, “My house is so big, I can’t get Wi-Fi in the kitchen.”

[Anonymous No.16392376]

>>16392137
The reality is quite different to what most people believe. We live in the most prosperous time in human history, and next year will be better. A decade from now, it will be better again, and our children will live better lives than we can imagine. The only thing to be gloomy about, the only thing to despair of is that some people slow such growth down to a trickle and limit the rate of change in society.

It is the entrepreneurs in society who create change. Although change is disruptive, and in the short term, it seems to cause problems, it is such change that leads us out of poverty and into a world of plenty.


https://craigwright.net/blog/economics/work-is-infinite/

[Anonymous No.16392400]

/bsvg is the best content of /biz

To think I nearly stopped visiting this knitting forum

[Anonymous No.16392435]

>>16392308
>creates bitcoin
>quotes Weird Al lyrics as if it’s Shakespeare
Pick one

[Anonymous No.16392550]

TrueDEX

[Anonymous No.16392556]

>>16392550

This is gonna be huge. Holy shit

[Anonymous No.16392565]

>>16392556

[Anonymous No.16392678]

>>16387186
ok i'll pass

btc to the mooon

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16392691]

>>16392435
why not both you pretentious motherfucker

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16392700]

>>16392565
Yo post some links or sth.

[Anonymous No.16392734]

>>16392700

https://truedex.org/#/

This is gonna start the BSV golden bull run I'm pretty sure

[Anonymous No.16392813]

>>16387334
You said the same thing yesterday concern troll, and honestly, you are saying that terabyte blocks are possible and at current prices are only 10 million dollars a year, which is not very much money for a miner. Don't tell me you think nodes are different than miners, unless you want to sound like a complete faggot.

[Anonymous No.16392832]

>>16391986
please cont.

[Anonymous No.16393203]

>>16392813
>which is not very much money for a miner
only his profitability you nigger clown

[Anonymous No.16393609]

>>16392832

All I could find. Possible evidence that CSW was blackmailed

[Anonymous No.16393624]

>>16393609
why is a screenshot of an email supposedly sent to ian grigg from ""ian grigg"" is possible evidence of anything?

[Anonymous No.16393636]

>>16393624
also i have evidence that craig is a pedo enabler

[Anonymous No.16394569]

>>16393636
craig actually helps catch pedos you nonce, read a book or something

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16395042]

Bump

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16395252]

The crypt industry's dirty little secret is out!

They are all PUMPS and DUMPS
SCAM + GAMBLING
A Crooked House of Evil Standing on Sand.

[Anonymous No.16395413]

>>16393636
Imagine being such a disgusting kike you have to edit the screenshot to obscure what he actually said. And 'started' is an autocorrect error of 'stated'.

There is a rope in your future Greg.

[Anonymous No.16395829]

>>16395413
>falsifying evidence and out-of-context quotes
this is a standard leftist tactic

[Anonymous No.16395968]

>>16395829
The coreons have always aligned themselves with the leftist side of the anarchist tradition. "Muh [nonmining] nodes" is just a variation of "muh popular vote," "muh free shit," "muh subsidies for the unproductive," etc.
They are red through and through

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16396725]

gotta bump the real bitcoin

[Anonymous No.16396848]

>>16385403
1 BSV = 0.01434257 BTC

Faketoshi predicted BTC would be gone and BSV would be worth tens of thousands of dollars. It's not. It's not going to be. Get over it. BSV is junk.

[Anonymous No.16396964]

>>16396848
^
II
II
II
II
if you thought the only thing coretards have going for them is a terrible coin, they also have terrible memes!

[Anonymous No.16397018]

>>16396964
Aww. Never mind. Do you prefer this one?

[Anonymous No.16397072]

>>16397018
that didn't help your case at all

[Anonymous No.16397090]

>>16397072
Do you prefer facts rather than memes?

I've got hundreds of these if you want them.

[Anonymous No.16397141]

Lul at all these seething corecucks bumping the Real BitCoin General doing Gods work greg u criminal piece of shit

[Anonymous No.16397239]

>>16397090
i see that you provided a document with a citation by "Charlie Lee the creator of Litecoin". i have clearly met my match.

[Anonymous No.16397286]

>>16394569
>>16395413
i guess the point flew right by your head brainlets

[Anonymous No.16397342]

>>16397286
What point? That you photoshop fake shit in order to please your Jewish masters?

[Anonymous No.16397388]

>>16397090
>unironically using Wikipedia as a source

[Anonymous No.16397411]

>>16397342
look here >>16393624 you spastic mongrel tard

[Anonymous No.16397423]

>>16397090
i just edit tezos is a scam on wikipedia

[Anonymous No.16397427]

JUST FUCKING DO SOMETHING

WILL WE EVER FUCKING REACH $1K???????

BEEN HOLDING THIS SHIT FOR OVER A YEAR. GODDAMN THAT RUSH WHEN IT WENT TO $250 HAVING BOUGHT AT $45. BUT THAT WAS 6 MONTHS AGO. I'M A 31YO BOOMER, I CAN'T WAIT VERY LONG FOR MOON, I NEED PRICE GO UP NOW

[Anonymous No.16397501]

>>16388606
>>16388655
>>16389332
you completely changed my mind, i was totally wrong

[Anonymous No.16397601]

>>16397501
Still a seething moron. Have sex.

[Anonymous No.16397617]

>>16397427
Stop focusing on price, focus on increasing utility or building value on the blockchain. The only way to secure a massive price increase is for the coin to actually be mass adopted.

But when that happens, you are looking at prices you cant even imagine.

Focus on price = losing strategy
Focus on utility/scaling/building = winning strategy.

Price happens as byproduct of winning the crypto scaling/adoption wars.

[Anonymous No.16397633]

>>16385403
BSV is and always will be an altcoin

[Anonymous No.16397688]

>>16385403
>BSV is the real bitcoin guys
>BSV isn't even the real shitcoin fork at this stage

[Anonymous No.16397706]

>>16397501
dilate

[Anonymous No.16397727]

>>16385403
OP do you create these /bsvg/ threads to piss off BTCers, educate people about the real bitcoin, or prove that BSV threads consistently get the most engagement after the stinky bubble burst?
Because all three are working excellently

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16397816]

>>16397727
there are a lot of generals.
to them, we seem like a uniform mass of "pajeets" because we are all focused on one thing - bitcoin.
This is the nakamoto consensus in action.

[Anonymous No.16397973]

>>16397816
It's sad that most BSVers have retracted from discussions on social media because everywhere you go, you get constantly attacked by these demonic moloch worshippers like Greg maxwell and his 1000 sockpuppet army and their constant lies and smears.

No normal people wanna deal with that, and it kills organic growth of the info sphere.

[Anonymous No.16397990]

>>16385876
Most Based Comment Ever

[Anonymous No.16397998]

>>16387231
Internet isnt meant for useless imageboards

[Anonymous No.16398021]

>>16397973
CSW is a con-artist, BCH is an alt-coin, and BSV is half the coin that BCH is.

[Anonymous No.16398114]

>>16397973
>everywhere you go, you get constantly attacked by these demonic moloch worshippers
oh you poor victim! you get btfo posting your retarded imbecilic memes... i guess you just have to STIFF it!

[Anonymous No.16398307]

>>16398021
if you have a problem with the whitepaper just come out and say it

[Anonymous No.16398326]

>>16398114
Its like saying apes please dont throw with shit. Its not worth your time so you dont try it. Corefags cant understand.

[Anonymous No.16398382]

>>16397727

All of the above. It's also good to have a hub for the Anon stiffmarines

>>16397973

Retracted? I feel like BSVers are some of the most dedicated shillers on the planet

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16399307]

truth never dies.

[Anonymous No.16399353]

i really really hope that there is a whole bunch of people buying BSV, it would be very humerus

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16399406]

>>16399353

[Anonymous No.16399454]

>>16397617
know what gets people interested in owning and using bsv? the price shooting up and shitting on btc.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16399613]

>>16399454
it will happen.

[Anonymous No.16399665]

>>16399613
sv is already dead it just haven't realized it yet.

[Anonymous No.16399919]

>>16399665
Usage is literally growing exponentially. See you at the halvening fuck face.

[Anonymous No.16399928]

>>16399919
nah it's all bullshit >>16387317
the halving will sort your shitcoin out alright.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16399978]

>>16399928
if you mean btc yea u rite

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16399986]

because bsv is the real bitcoin.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16399996]

big brains luv bsv

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16400004]

bsv is bitcoin

[Anonymous No.16400024]

>>16399996
It’s Jason Statham’s autistic older brother.

[Anonymous No.16400045]

>>16399928
Cope

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16400067]

>>16400045
who's the real pump and dump?

[Anonymous No.16400253]

>>16400067
These scammer fucks are out of control.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16400785]

not letting it die

[Anonymous No.16400793]

>>16400253
cuck

[Anonymous No.16400814]

>>16400067

Dear lord. Utterly shameless

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401009]

https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/exclusive-sneak-peek-at-craig-wrights-next-court-filing-your-honor-judges-dont-understand-bitcoin/

EXCLUSIVE: Sneak peek at Craig Wright’s next court filing: Your honor, judges don’t understand bitcoin!
The man who would be Satoshi Nakamoto claims he didn’t lie, people just can’t understand his extraordinary life
By Brendan Sullivan / November 27, 2019

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401015]

With $3.6 billion in bitcoin on the line, nChain founder and self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto’s Craig Wright is about to argue that he shouldn’t be fined $650,000 for lying in court, because he didn’t.

The court filing, which Modern Consensus has seen before it enters the public record, is part of Wright’s attempt to fend off a claim on half of a cache of 1,000,000 bitcoin mined in the early days of bitcoin by its creator, Satoshi Nakamoto.

Wright is being sued by the estate of his late partner, Dave Kleiman.

So far Wright has been hammered in court. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, who oversaw a pre-trial stage of the case, has fined him, threatened to jail him twice, and flat-out called him a liar.

The judge also ordered him to give Kleiman’s brother the half million bitcoin, but Wright’s appealing that, too.

Wright said the real culprit is not his answers or behavior in court, but the judge’s inability to understand Bitcoin, or his extraordinary life as—he claims—Nakamoto.

That failure of imagination caused Reinhart to come to the wrong conclusions about his testimony, he argued. This argument is before the Judge Beth Bloom of the Southern District of Florida, who is overseeing the case. And has also called Wright a liar.

While his claim to the Nakamoto mantle is widely derided in the cryptocurrency community, the lawsuit is based on it being true. If he’s not Nakamoto, he’ll never have access to that stack of bitcoin worth, a press time prices, about $7.2 billion.

If that’s the case, Ira Kleiman will be more upset than the judge. But not by a whole lot, as judges do not like having their time wasted. Fortunately for Wright he’s already given a number of explanations—a number of them conflicting—as to why he may never be able to access the encrypted Tulip Trust that is thought to contain the king’s ransom in bitcoin.

Maybe Judge Bloom will actually believe them.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401020]

Craig Wright has failed to impress the court in the early stages of a lawsuit that presumes he is actually responsible for the creation of bitcoin.

This filing shows Wright is determined to maintain a strategy that Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart didn’t buy—that “there is absolutely no basis for imposing any sanctions on Dr. Wright, because the uncontroverted evidence shows that he is unable to access a listing of the bitcoin that he mined” before 2013, as the court ordered.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401028]

Judge Reinhart, you’re no Satoshi Nakamoto

Wright, who claims to be Nakamoto, takes exception to Reinhart’s statement that it is “inconceivable” that anyone would simply lock away something worth a fortune.

The real problem, he argued, was that the judge wasn’t able to understand his unique life experience. Specifically, that anyone would set up a system in which they could lose “billions… if [a] bonded courier does not appear” with the encryption keys to the 1,000,000-bitcoin Tulip Trust.

Noting that Reinhart came to the “conclusion [that this] defies ‘real-life experience,’” Wright’s lawyers argued that the “[o]rder fails to consider that the Magistrate’s life experience and, frankly, most people’s life experience, may not correspond to that of the inventor of Bitcoin.”

“Dr. Wright unequivocally testified in detail as to why he was unable to comply,” the filing said. “The algorithm necessary to generate a complete list of his Bitcoin public addresses is in an encrypted file that is protected by a Shamir encryption scheme… . To unlock the encrypted file, Dr. Wright would need at least 8 of the 15 key slices, but he has only 7.”

The rest of the keys will not be returned to him until, Jan. 1, 2020, Wright has said.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401043]

Judge Reinhart, you don’t “get” Bitcoin

Wright also argued that Judge Reinhart accused him of making contradictory statements simply because he doesn’t understand how cryptocurrencies like bitcoin work.

For one thing, Wright’s filing points out, Judge Reinhart does not seem to understand how bitcoins work. Actually, in many documents during this trial, lawyers from both sides refer to bitcoin addresses and private keys simply as “bitcoin.”

Wright’s filing gives this example: “According to Magistrate [Judge Reinhart] , Dr. Wright ‘unequivocal[y]’ stated in his April 18th motion and May 8th declaration that the ‘trust held bitcoin,’ but ‘testified at his deposition and the evidentiary hearing that ‘the trust only holds keys,’ not actual bitcoin,” the filing noted.
You have no idea what I’m talking about, do you?

For another, the whole point of Judge Reinhart’s hearings was to get a list of the public keys of Bitcoin Wright mined before Dec. 31, 2013.

That’s pointless, Wright argued. “[T]here is no record evidence showing that a listing of bitcoin that Dr. Wright mined would have helped plaintiffs prove that Dave had an ownership interest in those bitcoin, let alone that Dave mined them,” he said in the filing. “Bitcoin is a pseudonymous currency, which does not contain the names of the bitcoin miners or owners.”
I just told you where the $7.2 billion is. Why do you need to see it?

Nor would public address keys enable Kleiman’s attorneys to trace the bitcoins as they were never moved, he argued.

Of course, it’s likely that the court and Kleiman want to see that for themselves rather than take Wright’s word for it.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401053]

That’s not a forgery it’s a printing error

One of the biggest blows to Wright’s credibility with Judge Reinhart—and the already-disbelieving cryptocurrency community—was the allegedly forged Tulip Trust document.

Allegedly from 2011, an expert witness testified that “the font files embedded in the document were copyrighted in 2015, implying that the document really was drafted in 2015.”

A lot of Wright doubters laughed when this alleged ham-handed forgery came out in court last summer. But, Wright’s filing argued, this could be explained by the fact that they were printed around the time that the joint WIRED and Gizmodo leak outed Wright as Satoshi Nakamoto. That means they may have been scanned and made into PDF files using optical character recognition (OCR).
Seriously, read the fine print this time. It’s totally worth it.

Even the expert witness who revealed that inconsistency—Mathew Edman, the cyber security expert who took down Silk Road kingpin Ross Ulbricht—”conceded that the document could have been drafted in 2012, but simply OCR’d in 2015, which could have embedded the 2015 fonts into the document,” Wright argued.

Several “could have’s” follow in the footnote to that section of the filing. “The timing inconsistencies in the PGP [email encryption] signatures could have been caused by a poorly configured computer clock,” it reads. “The supposed issues with the PGP version histories could have been cause by an Alpha or Beta version of the software.”

After two more “supposed” issues, the footnote concluded, “[e]ach of these plausible explanations contradicts the “[f]raudulent documents” accusation.”

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401063]

Which Tulip Trust do you mean?

The Tulip Trust is one of the most storied parts of the Satoshi Nakamoto legend—his multi-billion-dollar horde.

In an earlier filing, Wright mentioned that there is also a Tulip Trust II.

Judge Reinhart’s order, the filing said, “found that Dr. Wright made “irreconcilable statements about the Tulip Trust,” stating that “[t]he April 18 Motion stated it was a blind trust and he was not a trustee. His sworn declaration three weeks later stated that he is one of the trustees of the Tulip Trust.”
Of course I wasn’t referring to the Tulip Bubble of 1637…

It continued, “[i]n making this finding, the order failed to consider that there are two Tulip Trusts. As shown by the trust documents, Dr. Wright is the trustee of one of the Tulip Trusts but is not a trustee of the other.”

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401068]

Hey look, here’s $360,000

Wright has repeatedly told the court that he can’t access any of the bitcoins he mined before 2013. That wasn’t entirely true.

Wright’s attorney, Zaharah Markoe, sent Kleiman’s lawyer Velvel Freedman an email with addresses of 50 bitcoins Wright had forgotten.

It’s a view into the early days if bitcoin. Mined at 1:34 p.m. on April 18, 2009, he was able to do it on a simple laptop.
It’s sort of like that time you found $20 in your winter coat pocket.

Markoe adds that these bitcoins were mined on Wright’s personal laptop, so they were not put into the Tulip Trust

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401074]

The $7.2 billion “if”

Having testified that the Shamir encryption keys will be delivered to him in January, Wright argues the court should have just waited “to see if he receives the key slices” to unlock the Tulip Trust delivered to him.
“The Dude abides” –Jeffrey Lebowski

“At a minimum, Dr. Wright should have been afforded the opportunity to wait until that date … to generate the list of his bitcoin holdings, which he could then provide to plaintiffs,” the filing argued.

It continues, “At that point, even plaintiffs would have to concede that Dr. Wright’s inability to do the impossible and comply with the discovery order caused them absolutely no prejudice.”

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401087]

https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/exclusive-sneak-peek-at-craig-wrights-next-court-filing-your-honor-judges-dont-understand-bitcoin/

EXCLUSIVE: Sneak peek at Craig Wright’s next court filing: Your honor, judges don’t understand bitcoin!
The man who would be Satoshi Nakamoto claims he didn’t lie, people just can’t understand his extraordinary life
By Brendan Sullivan / November 27, 2019

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401093]

>>16392400
almost forgot to chek them dubs.

[Anonymous No.16401373]

>>16401087
Neat

[Anonymous No.16401547]

>>16401009
>>16401015
>>16401020
>>16401028
>>16401043
>>16401053
>>16401063
>>16401068
>>16401074
>>16401087
>>16401093
>>16401373
Some real stupid stories Craig has told to the judge. God damn that guy is an idiot

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401558]

https://truedex.org/#/

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401582]

[Anonymous No.16401610]

>>16401009
it's gonna be a drama packed january

[Anonymous No.16401611]

>>16401582
>>16401558

You got an invite, anon?

[Anonymous No.16401691]

>>16401558

How do you get an invite, since Twetch is also invite only?

Really?

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16401751]

>>16401611
>>16401691
Moneybutton account gets you in the beta

[Anonymous No.16401800]

>>16401751

I have a moneybutton account and it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.16401862]

>>16401800
Same

[Anonymous No.16402831]

>>16401800
>>16401862

Did you sign up with email?

[Anonymous No.16402873]

creg sold his soul to calvin the future of BitCoin is now in the hands of a scamming gambling tycoon who knows what he will do with the technology craig wright has been neutered and is merely a puppet on a string

[Anonymous No.16402936]

>https://medium.com/unboundedthoughts/why-we-invested-in-planaria-corp-9a3e6f056719
so comfy bros

[Anonymous No.16402947]

>>16402936
>open ended contracts are a good idea or even remotely useful
kek

[Anonymous No.16402949]

just so comfy

[Anonymous No.16403251]

>>16402949
HSBC are making their own blockchain. BSV is fucked.

[Anonymous No.16403375]

>>16402949
HSBC are using Voltron, which is powered by R3's Corda blockchain,
Guess which cryptocurrency is integrated with Corda?:

https://www.ledgerinsights.com/r3-corda-ripple-xrp-payments/

[Anonymous No.16403474]

>>16403251
>>16403375
that's for payments, article is about assets

[Anonymous No.16403609]

>>16387538
This

>>16387571
Go back to r/politics faggot.

[Anonymous No.16403726]

Happy Thanksgiving to all my BSV brothers and sisters. Even the scammers and losers, there is hope for you too but you must act quickly!

[Anonymous No.16403734]

>>16403726
I am thankful that I've been given a chance to buy bitcoin for $110

[Anonymous No.16403741]

>>16403734
only problem is you didn't buy bitcoin but a cheap vietnamese knock off of a cheap chink knock off

[Anonymous No.16403760]

>>16403726
1 min delta. Comfy!

[Anonymous No.16404472]

Trolling stinkies here

>>16404296

Go bump the thread lmao

[Anonymous No.16404513]

Also Ian Grigg confirmed the email that was going around. Saw people yesterday ask for the source.

[Anonymous No.16404571]

>https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/climate-data-in-australia-is-being-altered/
bullish for weatherSV!

[Anonymous No.16404703]

>>16404571
why so you can store altered climate data immutably forever on sv?

[Anonymous No.16404871]

>>16404571
commie globalists who hijacked btc are now mad as hell weathersv will zap their global warming scam

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16405324]

Bumpity boo

Happy thanksgiving

I give thanks for humanity, with all our idiots and geniuses.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16405612]

Bampy

[Anonymous No.16405968]

Waiting patiently for 2020.

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16406540]

so thankful

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16406902]

[Anonymous No.16406923]

>>16406902
what a fucking idiot

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16407077]

new bsvg
great thread my byzantine generals!
>16407049

[Autistic Bitcoiner No.16407089]

>>16407049