Why learn programming?

[Anonymous No.16366789]

Let's say I learn to code.
Then what?
How do I make income from it that won't have me competing on freelancer with pajeets?

[Anonymous No.16366806]

>>16366789
if you are too stupid to use skills to get money you are too stupid to learn skills

[Anonymous No.16366819]

don't learn just learn how to code. they have apps for litteral toddlers to learn how to code. over-saturated industry. now if you go extremely deep into it and spend years dedicating your life to it you can make big bucks but in the upcoming years pajeets and chinks are gonna steal entry-level jobs

[Anonymous No.16366847]

>>16366806
Anyone can get money, how does a person like you get sufficient big bucks to justify the time expenditure?

>>16366819
>now if you go extremely deep into it and spend years dedicating your life to it

Ah, so it's just like any other career with high upside.

[Anonymous No.16366849]

>>16366789
>Then what?
you copy what successful people are doing and never give up

[Anonymous No.16366855]

You get a job in a cuck office where you show up for 9 am "stand-up meetings" every day , drink your onions lattes and wrack your brain solving algorithm problems for the diversity hires before commuting home 2 hours to your cuck shed suburban apartment and jerking off into a sock before falling asleep and getting up to do it again the next day

[Anonymous No.16366927]

>>16366855
What do you do for a living?

[Anonymous No.16366956]

>>16366789
it takes a long time to learn to code boomer

[Anonymous No.16366957]

>>16366849

[Anonymous No.16366966]

>>16366789
always bet on javascript

[Anonymous No.16366998]

>>16366789
Why are you learning to code?
To set up web pages? You wont go far there.
People still need help in there daily lives
Find what works for you and go from there.

[Anonymous No.16367006]

>>16366956
False pleb.

[Anonymous No.16367036]

>>16366855
This is exactly how it seems. The culture of these places is fucking insane

[Anonymous No.16367045]

>>16367036
The culture of everywhere is fucking insane because it was designed by other people for their own purposes and not yours

[Anonymous No.16367050]

You learn to code to write scripts and create programs to automate your workload. This is why true biz anons roast wagecucks because they are getting milked and eventually get replaced. Future entrepreneurs will need some type of tech skills to stay ahead

[Anonymous No.16367060]

>>16366855
It's good to always hear the harsh realities.

>>16366998
>Find what works for you and go from there.
That's not how I like to (or succeed in) go about things, I like to have clear goals before I waste my time and effort and sometimes money on another garden path to nowhere.

>>16367050
Isn't this why Ray Dalio was telling all young people to learn to program, so they could leave all the nitty gritty repetitive tasks to machines and they could focus on the intelligent problem solving stuff?

But obviously if you can automate tasks, it saves time, and time = money.

[Anonymous No.16367068]

>>16366927
That was my job before getting fired because I stopped giving a fuck. Now I'm NEET and haven't been applying. Trying to figure out what business I'd like to start because the officecuck life isn't for me. Pretending to be a normie for 8+ hours a day is too much for me to handle.

[Anonymous No.16367082]

>>16366789
What language programming should I learn as a 160 IQ neet who never coded before?

[Anonymous No.16367085]

>>16366789
If you are competing with Indians
You are a retard
In the US
I could go out and wipe my ass on my resume and collect a 100k annual salary as a programmer anywhere in the US

[Anonymous No.16367097]

>>16367085
>I could go out and wipe my ass on my resume and collect a 100k annual salary as a programmer anywhere in the US
Why though? That's the whole question of the thread.

[Anonymous No.16367098]

>>16367082
You most likely don’t have a 160 if you’re a neet loser

Anyone with such a high IQ would realize the stupidity of letting themselves fall into such a position where they are unskilled, unable to provide for themselves, and haven’t set up a future.

You are most likely 90 IQ loser who took an online iq test

[Anonymous No.16367121]

>>16367097
Stop asking
You won’t make it anyway
I can guarantee in one year you still will be unemployed and a faggot believing he’s brilliant and the world just isn’t ready for him

[Anonymous No.16367130]

>>16367045

The engineers are the only ones being productive but you have a swarm of locusts in the form of catty old HR ladies and diversity hires leeching off your productivity. they'll berate you for not being enthusiastic enough about after hours team building events and diversity training when you were just exhausted from carrying the whole company on your shoulders.


>>16367050
There's only so many shitty excel scripts that need to be written. The same way that you're automating out sub90 IQ wagies is the same way that 150 IQ prodigies are going to phase you out with machine learning.

[Anonymous No.16367145]

>>16367098
It's been proved dozens of times, fren. I went to college but got bored. I'm not exactly a NEET as I help the family business but I am pretty comfy with my position (that's why I never pushed for something else)

[Anonymous No.16367148]

>>16367121
>Stop asking

So in otherwords you're LARPING.

>I can guarantee in one year you still will be unemployed and a faggot believing he’s brilliant and the world just isn’t ready for him
When did I say that, I just asked why it is worth learning to code? Where did I say, imply, or impute I was brilliant or destined for great things or unemployed?

[Anonymous No.16367154]

Unless you are in an extremely conservative or legacy profession like a doctor or government lawyer, learing to code and designing technology systems will improve your earning potential or success of your business. Significantly.

It is as important for your career as writing skills, or networking skills.

[Anonymous No.16367157]

>>16367130
Here’s the fun part
A lot of the fat incel coders got fired at my company because they weren’t liked... they’re my buddies and all believe the kids who stayed (good looking fit kids and high iq grads) aren’t as good as them

It’s a cope
That these people can’t possibly have it all... good looks and iq

But the fact is outside of our convos... they aren’t missed. We are still making tons of money as an automation company without the self proclaimed geniuses. I’ll never tell my buddies though.

[Anonymous No.16367169]

>>16367145
Who needs college?

But you’re most likely retarded if you’re passed 23 without experience on your resume

It’s game over then

[Anonymous No.16367187]

>>16367006
how long does it take?

[Anonymous No.16367189]

>>16367148
Loser

[Anonymous No.16367197]

>>16367169
Am I fucked then? I though my IQ could save me. Thanks for the time anyway

[Anonymous No.16367202]

>>16367187
At least two years to be damn good and do full stack + dev ops
If you’re a clinical retard though without social skills you will GUARANTEED not be hired anywhere

Tons of socially apt devs out
If you’re an incel give up

[Anonymous No.16367204]

>>16367157
>A lot of the fat incel coders got fired at my company because they weren’t liked
I guess you are next then

[Anonymous No.16367205]

>>16367157
I actually don't know how to code, yet. But I can tell those fat incels you are talking about are secret commies who probably idolize Che and would sell out their countrymen to foreigners if given the opportunity. Natural selection at its finest

[Anonymous No.16367224]

>>16367154
>learing to code and designing technology systems will improve your earning potential or success of your business
Give three examples?

I can think of some in my industry , but other than saving time, I don't know how to directly monetize it.

[Anonymous No.16367231]

>>16366855
this hurts hard. too close to home

>9 am "stand-up meetings"
check

>drink your onions lattes
coworker unironically drinks s-ylent

>diversity hires
manager says we cant take into account eagle scouts since only men can achieve it. its okay for women only hackatons and awards tho

>cuck shed suburban apartment
check

>jerking off into a sock before falling asleep and getting up to do
kill me

[Anonymous No.16367251]

>>16367197
If You think a number as trivial as an “IQ” could give you real physical success in this world

Surprise

Your IQ isn’t as high as you think it is remotely

You’re already crashed and dead. You will need a complete mental reboot to make it and discard any presumptions of your own intelligence if you want to make something of yourself.

Earn your ego. Right now you are a fucking neet faggot giving yourself an ego earned from nothing but a trivial number score that isn’t indicative of reality

[Anonymous No.16367287]

>>16366855

[Anonymous No.16367296]

>>16367251
But I'm smart as fuck, Anon. I outperform all my peers at everything I do. I'm excellent at every job I have done. I see things people don't see and always do things differently and more efficiently than the rest. I automated the family business in a week. My problem is that I get fucking bored out of my mind if something is not useful (that's why I didn't finish college). That's why I'm interesting in learning a skill that let me build things. I'm brilliant at abstract thinking and that's crucial to problem solving.

[Anonymous No.16367300]

>>16366806
"I have no answer"

[Anonymous No.16367316]

>>16366789
Learn to code and combine it with a specialty. Think of it this way: being good at statistics + coding = data scientist

And from there, you can specialize with time series data, NLP, biostatistics, computer vision, autonomous systems etc

And if you pick up software engineering skills as a data scientist, then you can become a machine learning engineer. So all this exists simply within the data science field.

Now theres all kinds of routes you can take with cyber security, software engineering etc

[Anonymous No.16367346]

>>16367296
If you were really this smart it’d actually be faster to figure it out on your own than ask here. For every good tidbit of advice you will get 100 shitty larpers like the guy you’re talking to

[Anonymous No.16367353]

>>16366789
You have to be a biz leader/deal maker and competent technologist now. Any jeet can learn to code, but not architecture and communication. The advantage for entry level devs is gone.. u have to evolve. T. CTO cunt

[Anonymous No.16367357]

>>16367296
If you get bored so easily it's because you are doing shit that is genuinely too easy for you. If you are as smart as you think you are pick something most people struggle with and excel at it. I won't attempt to tell you what that is.

[Anonymous No.16367361]

>>16366855
t. software engineer

[Anonymous No.16367367]

>>16367197
IQ is bullshit. I have a high IQ and have a useless masters degree with first class honors so I know.
It's more or less a proxy of parental income or education while you were a child.
They've even done research that has shown that simply bumping up a parent's income by 1000 dollars can increase their children's IQ (probably because they get better at delayed gratification, and essential function of the prefrontal cortex).

My running theory is that IQ is basically a measure for how good of a bureaucrat you'd be (which obviously transfers to soulless office jobs as well as government departments), you'd be since the format of the IQ test and other IQ proxies like SATs and exams all descend from the Chinese Imperial Examinations.

I'll have to find the article, but they found that there was wide variance of men with High IQ and their income if you rated high on personal "agreeableness" you would earn less than people with other personality traits I can't remember. But basically it showed that people skills multiplies your earning power if you have IQ.

Point is, you can't think of IQ like this almighty cash reserve that can buy you saved time. You STILL need to learn domain specific skills and leverage them (which usually requires networking or salesmanship) in environments where people will pay you a hefty premium.

[Anonymous No.16367413]

>>16367316
This is the most insightful post in the thread. Everyone else has to pick up their game!
>Learn to code and combine it with a specialty. Think of it this way: being good at statistics + coding = data scientist

Yeah, this actually answers my question: pair coding skills or even language specialty with a field that requires coding skills.

[Anonymous No.16367418]

>>16366789
you don't "learn to code" just to learn to code. you apply it to whatever interests you, or to things you need or want, and then, if you think other people may like your stuff, you share it/sell it as an app.

now, tell us, what are your interests and needs?

[Anonymous No.16367430]

>>16367353
>but not architecture and communication.

What do you mean by 'communication' - does that mean within the team or communicating to clients/customers or both?

[Anonymous No.16367438]

>>16367367
You have a fundamentally wrong understanding of intelligence, forget IQ because it's just a measurement. It isn't bumped up by your parent's income. Your parent's income being higher correlates with them being smarter correlates with you being smarter.

[Anonymous No.16367461]

>>16367202
defeatist cuck mindset belongs on /r9k/
>2 years
long time, what if the government collapses and the power grids get shut off? what use would your coding be then, nerd

[Anonymous No.16367505]

>>16367461
Lmao
I can sense a sub 6 figure salary in you

[Anonymous No.16367506]

>>16367430

Within the team, to managers, to clients, everything. It's pretty important and the main reason pajeet hasn't taken over completely.

[Anonymous No.16367529]

>>16367413
How do you actually plan to learn to code, because I missed that part.

[Anonymous No.16367561]

>>16367296
Just because you get bored easily doesn't mean you're smart bro...dumb people get bored too

[Anonymous No.16367594]

>>16367068
in the same position but feeling the pressure to get back into the workforce just so i can stack more sats

[Anonymous No.16367611]

>>16367506
Checks out.

>>16367418
>now, tell us, what are your interests and needs?
>>16367529
I haven't gotten that far yet, my intention was that if I found a personal project - something that either would save me many hours of work or, for example, a 'filter' for videos with a distinct look that I could either sell online for a few bucks or would help me get post-production work (because people would want the filter, and can only get it by hiring me).
Thing is a filter is way too complicated to start off with since I'd need to learn all about channel blending and colour spaces on top of learning a language.

So far I haven't figured out what that project would be useful enough that it'd be worth the time, but simple enough to start with.

[Anonymous No.16367649]

>>16367060
>That's not how I like to (or succeed in) go about things, I like to have clear goals before I waste my time and effort and sometimes money on another garden path to nowhere.
Go into healthcare. The difficulty, expectations, and money are quite clear from the beginning. I thought about becoming a software developer when I was in high school, but I chose pharmacy instead. School was hard but the actual profession is very easy.

[Anonymous No.16367651]

>>16367611
Did you consider going to school for it? Your way doesn't look very convincing desu

[Anonymous No.16367655]

>>16367611
This is a good intro to learn but after a while it wouldn’t hurt to enroll in one of the more selective coding boot camps (think hackreactor, general assembly, etc)

[Anonymous No.16367678]

>>16367651
>>16367655
Valid points anons but I've already got a masters degree, so there's no fucking way I can endure going back to school unless it's on a scholarship or I'm getting a job/paid to. Irrespective of the topic

[Anonymous No.16367711]

>>16367678
Well, it wouldn't hurt to start practicing by yourself. Many people like to start with Python. "Learn python 3 the hard way" is an ok book I heard.

[Anonymous No.16367732]

>>16367711
Agreed, like I said, once I figure out a project that's the right mix of utility and simplicity. Quite simply I have a lot of personal projects on the go at the moment.
Thanks for the book recommendation.

[Anonymous No.16367748]

>>16366789
>Medieval peasant in the 1400s
Let's say I learn to read.
Then what?

[Anonymous No.16367829]

>>16367611
>Thing is a filter is way too complicated to start off with since I'd need to learn all about channel blending and colour spaces on top of learning a language.
I don't know what that means (I don't have complete academic knowledge on programming), but if it interests you, why not simply try doing it?

[Anonymous No.16367842]

>>16367748
This post reminds me of making my character learn to read in Kingdom Come Deliverance.
You have genuinely just inspired me to learn to program with a thirteen word post.

[Anonymous No.16367854]

>>16367829
>but if it interests you, why not simply try doing it?
not sure if it interests me enough to persevere when I have like 6 other involved projects I should be working on (some of which might, but only might, make money).

[Anonymous No.16367885]

>>16366855
>drink your onions lattes and wrack your brain solving algorithm problems for the diversity hires
you are the diversity hire, the reason we keep seeing programming job threads on /biz/ is because white guys are leaving the industry because they are just the token white guy in room full of H1Bs

good luck to all you cucks who actually spend 4 years on a CS degree and will never get a job

[Anonymous No.16367928]

>>16367678
An intense coding bootcamp would be ~3 months, the avg starting salary of a hack reactor software engineering graduate is $120k but you would automatically be considered for upper level roles because of your master’s degree

[Anonymous No.16367934]

>>16367885
>good luck to all you cucks who actually spend 4 years on a CS degree and will never get a job
C'mon this isn't true

[Anonymous No.16367959]

>>16367934
yes it is true, a CS degree is not going to get you a job unless you attend an upper tier university, getting a CS degree gets you nothing, you are lower than bootcamp grads

[Anonymous No.16367971]

>>16366789
Make game become millionaire

[Anonymous No.16367976]

>>16367959
How does this work exactly?

[Anonymous No.16368005]

>>16367976
this thread is a cattle call for suckers to show up as token white guys at job interviews so they can look you over, laugh, and hire the H1B, thats how this works exactly

[Anonymous No.16368051]

>>16368005
Only losers say this shit, imagine getting btfo by pajeets when the H1B has a motherfucking limit kek.

[Anonymous No.16368073]

>>16368005
Forgot to say, only places who actually want to pay to sponsor a H1B (Yes it costs money and they only have 1/3 change to get it) are literal pajeet sweatshops you will never work in because they are awful or Big 4 companies like FB,Goog,Microsoft,etc. If you are an american the market is your fucking bitch, hell you don't even need a degree while pajeet does if he wants to get a visa. If you still complain it means you are a complete brainlet or a lazy fuck.

tldr;You are not competing with H1BS unless you are applying to a sweatshop or facebook.

[Anonymous No.16368087]

>>16366855
nailed it.

[Anonymous No.16368226]

>>16368073
I used to work in an office building where one floor was Equifax. I never saw any real people on the elevator to that floor--only mutt roasties and pajeets. They didn't even hire any white numales

[Anonymous No.16368268]

>>16367505
Stop being a wagecuck

[Anonymous No.16368295]

>>16367187
1000 hours
So about 3-6 months

[Anonymous No.16368331]

>>16368226
I worked at Equifax.
Everything IT at that company was a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.16368920]

>>16367169
What about a self taught dev who has been freelancing easy WordPress gigs online for the last 2 years and has been learning various coding skills over the last 4 years but still doesn't feel confident enough to pass a coding interview? The imposter syndrome is big with me. What can I do to be good enough to get an entry level dev position especially without a degree or professional experience?

[Anonymous No.16368966]

>>16368920
Nobody gives a shit about your wordpress site.
Do you know what cracking the code interview is? leetcode?

[Anonymous No.16369099]

>>16368966
Yes that is exactly why I am asking how to level up my skillset. By the way I am doing custom WordPress dev work too which involves php coding. I still see a ton of Wordpress jobs on indeed but I am too chicken shit to apply because I feel like a fraud that will be sniffed out in 5 secs. I just want to upgrade my skills and confidence without getting a 4 year degree.

[Anonymous No.16369124]

>>16369099
The ability to google shit is essential, you really couldn't figure this shit out in 4 years?
I knew most of this stuff BEFORE I even knew how to print Hello world.

[Anonymous No.16369562]

>>16368966
>Do you know what cracking the code interview is? leetcode?
yes, its what whiteboi diversity hires have to know to get their $100k/yr+ gibs

[Anonymous No.16369594]

>>16367068
Most businesses you're a slave to your customer which unless you do B2B is gonna be plenty of retards.

[Anonymous No.16369617]

>>16367251
Jfc you are insufferable

[Anonymous No.16369623]

>>16369124
Jesus christ you're a fucking retard. I am asking for practical advice given my specific viewpoint in order to gardner a new refreshing response. I already have a plan you brainlet larper. I can tell you are a larper because any actual dev that is competent always always likes to give advice and help. Only garbage loser larpers give retarded responses like you've given. 100% bet my fucking life on it I have more skills than you faggot ass LMAO

[Anonymous No.16369673]

>>16366855
This is why I’m unironically going to kill myself when I run out of my savings and I can longer be a neet. I can’t go back to this life.

[Anonymous No.16369763]

>>16367316
Is cybersecurity a good route?

[Anonymous No.16369783]

>>16367098
>>16367121
PRO
JECT
ION

[Anonymous No.16369849]

>>16367971
Surprisingly this hasn’t worked for me

[Anonymous No.16370543]

>>16367068
just stake a fuck ton of FRM and you should be able to never work again

[Anonymous No.16370974]

>>16367224
imagine a world where time would be valued in money

[Anonymous No.16370985]

>>16366789
>the "competing with third worlders" meme
Pajeet will make the shittiest quality work.
Pajeet will write everything in broken English.
Pajeet will copy paste the same generic cover letter to hundreds of proposals.
99% of businesses are not interested in Pajeet-tier work.

Pajeets are no match if you do quality work. If you are competing with pajeet then you are worthless.

[Anonymous No.16370997]

>why learn programming
you're telling me you don't want a job with unlimited upsides? (you have no salary ceiling if you are good at your job)

[Anonymous No.16370999]

>>16366789
Protip: you don't. Western educational systems are always fantastic at teaching today's kids what is useful for today's adults. They can't look ahead at all. That's why 90s kids are so we'll media trained. We could all have got any job in newspapers, publishing or broadcasting. But the internet killed all those industries.

Now they want little Christopher and Mary to learn programming at age ten because that is an in demand skill now. But 17 year old Samjir and Rashinda are already working 10hrs a day coding for $2.

Don't learning coding. Teachers are fucking dullards.

[Anonymous No.16371007]

i'm 4 months deep into python besides being a full time architect with a master degree.
what the fuck could i go for? just automate stupid work or simply focus on bim?

[Anonymous No.16371034]

>>16370985
>Pajeets are no match if you do quality work. If you are competing with pajeet then you are worthless.
That sounds good on paper, but we all know that unless that middle managers will still outsource to pajeets because they're ruled by P/L
What distinguishes an inexperienced western coder from a pajeet, apart from the fact that hopefully they'll be able to offer actual and relevant feedback that doesn't sound like it's been generated by a bot.

>>16370997
>you're telling me you don't want a job with unlimited upsides? (you have no salary ceiling if you are good at your job)
Name 3 to 7 examples of likley uspides that a recently minted coder could experiance?

[Anonymous No.16371060]

>>16371034
i pretty much just meant crazy salary and great culture

[Anonymous No.16371224]

>>16366789

Find the demand first. Upwork is a fucking sweatshop with $5/hour webshit offers.

Everything else requires an Ivy League degree (over-saturated with pajeets).

There is literally no demand for skills, only for cheap labor (Java or webshit dumb coding).

[Anonymous No.16371234]

>>16371060

don't post Jane Street, it hurts.

[Anonymous No.16371243]

>>16366789
Programming is a waste of time if you aren't already into it in your early 20s.

Tech companies have a literal endless supply of fresh grads. Once you hit 30+ you are pretty much fucked.

Programming is a good way of earning 6 figures right out of college. A waste of time if you're already in your mid/late 20s and beyond.

[Anonymous No.16371305]

>>16370985
>>the "competing with third worlders" meme
>Pajeet will make the shittiest quality work.
>Pajeet will write everything in broken English.
>Pajeet will copy paste the same generic cover letter to hundreds of proposals.
>99% of businesses are not interested in Pajeet-tier work.
>Pajeets are no match if you do quality work. If you are competing with pajeet then you are worthless.
I love how white boys cope so well by forcing themselves to believe this

[Anonymous No.16372051]

>>16371305
Dude I’m Indian and no one wants to hire your fucking over seas asses

USA USA USA

[Anonymous No.16372081]

>>16371305
I'm actually a programmer myself and often outsource to 3rd world. These niggers are so stupid it takes them 20 hours to do the same work I do in 1 hour, and it's done so badly it pretty much needs to be redone.

3rd worlder can only do simple websites. Anything complex you can forget about it, they are basically retarded.

For example, 99.999% of all "programmers" in the world would never even get an interview at Google/Facebook/Amazon/Microsoft because they are simply too retarded.

It's amazing how retarded they are. It's actually hard to believe. It's something you gotta see with your own eyes to understand. So 3rd worlder really are not competition, unless you're a crappy web developer, which is barely programming really.

That's something that every experienced programmer knows. It's not cope, it's factual. You can't understand if you're not an experienced programmer yourself because you can't judge what is shitty, useless, unusable code like the 3rd worlder write.

Anyone with 110+ IQ that dedicates 5000 hours to programming can get a 100k-200k a year job in America. If you think that's about to change soon because of 3rd world, you are extremely misinformed, or maybe coping yourself because of your own bad life decisions.

[Anonymous No.16372170]

>>16367296
Solve bitcoin mining.
Go read sha256 implementations
Go read and understand what bitcoin does with sha256 to make a block be considered valid.

Find a flaw, or a shortcut in the time it takes the best algorithm currently, just do it faster, a new numerical analytical method

When yoy find that method, make miney
Then fuck bitches

Then tell the world about your genius level

[Anonymous No.16372250]

>>16371234
you too can get in if you can solve these problems:
>Estimate the number of planes in the sky right now.
>Write an algorithm to reverse a Linked List.
>We roll a dice until we get two fives in a row. What’s the expected number of rolls we need?

[Anonymous No.16372564]

Programming my own EA.

[Anonymous No.16372574]

>>16367068
Wtf anon, this happened to me also. Was a programmer at one of the biggest banks in my country but I couldn't stand it. The job was so fucking boring and I hated my s o y as fuck colleagues. They had to restructure the department and I got laid off in July because I was the last one to join the team. Now I passed all my tests to become a cop and I'm thinking about doing personal training on the side since weightlifting is my passion. If you're into a fit lifestyle, a desk job is pure torture.

[Anonymous No.16372590]

>>16366847
no, it's becoming way more competitive than other careers. it will consume your whole life. this isn't the sort of career path that is satisfied after you put in your 8 hours a day. the market expects you to have side projects and dream in code too.

[Anonymous No.16372684]

>>16369623
>I just want to upgrade my skills and confidence without getting a 4 year degree.
so do that then. pick a few small side projects and crank them out for the sole purpose of putting up on github to show off to employers. this goes a very long way when applying for junior level positions. I used to use whatever school assignments I had at the time plus things like project euler. just a handful of small algorithmic puzzles is enough.

[Anonymous No.16372718]

>>16372081
it's not changing because of third worlders, but minorities and women are def. priority in hiring right now. in the past this wasn't much of a threat, because there weren't any at the appropriate skill level to be a threat....but after 10 years of "everyone must learn to code", things are shifting.

[Anonymous No.16373707]

>>16372564
Had any success with that yet?

[Anonymous No.16373744]

>>16367748
smashed like

[Anonymous No.16374057]

>>16373707
As long as your strategy is solid programming in it into an EA is the easiest part.

[Anonymous No.16374308]

>>16370999
This is extremely misleading, this entire thread is.
>don't learn coding
Do learn. Make some projects. Run a node for a popular or upcoming blockchain. Write a smart contract. Make an interface. Set up your own blockchain in Ruby.

If you are actively building, you will be able to find opportunities.. But you have to be able to think past the vitriolic negativity in your own mind and in this thread before you will be able to begin manifesting that outcome. What's your /played for shitposting? Gaming? Fapping? There are no silver bullets to slay your depression and inertia, you must incorporate the intent of your entire psychic or corporeal being to escape mediocrity and bestow yourself with creation through conscious effort.

While you shitpost and carry on with your self-hamstringing habits, some 38 year old mom lands a job as a front end dev simply for being honest, earnest, and making themselves visible via networking. You're either going to bitch about not having a womans "privilege" or use your brain for five minutes and own up to your own shortcomings when it comes to interpersonal communication. Go to a fucking meetup fot tech and grt over your adolescent fear of talking to people. You will be much harder pressed to find a job if you expect it to come to you in your fortress of solitude, self loathing, critical vitriol.

[Anonymous No.16374332]

>>16366789
Pajeets can code. You need to learn how to create useful software that adds value to business.

That's the difference. A Pajeet is a worker drone with 0 input of it's own.
You are (I assume) a white human being capable of reflection and inner dialogue.

That is how you compete with Pajeet.

[Anonymous No.16374360]

so you can hack the matrix, with your rebel signal

[Anonymous No.16374388]

>>16366789
hello? who is the name of this bitche ??

[Anonymous No.16374441]

>>16372590
>tfw have schizophrenic episodes in MIPS assembly at bedtime

[Anonymous No.16374493]

>>16366806
>skills
>to get money

apparently you've never been on the internet before

[Anonymous No.16374734]

>>16374441
I get stuck in loops sometimes and spend all night trying to hack my way out of it. only happens when I'm struggling with a project in real life though. it's fucking weird.

[Anonymous No.16374850]

>>16366855
True, but you also only have to do that for a year or two before you can work remotely, and then jerk off into a sock any time of day.

[Anonymous No.16375596]

>>16372250
A d6 or d20?

[Anonymous No.16375617]

>>16372250
Those problems are all trivial.

[Anonymous No.16375675]

>>16368051
Nobody gets btfo by pajeets. Pajeets btfo themselves by accepting the jobs for dumpster-wages, and the stupid fuck boomer middle-managers think they just got a steal btfoing some pajeet out of a salary when really they're going to get exactly what they paid for.

Then, out in the rest of the professional world, everybody spends half their time wondering why most of the software they spend all day every day using to do their job is fucking garbage.

[Anonymous No.16375680]

>>16374850
remote work sucks too.
>spends all fucking day shitposting on biz with pajeets

[Anonymous No.16375695]

>>16366789
there is literally no point learning programming if you don't feel the calling.

[Anonymous No.16375729]

>>16375680
It's better than doing that in an office, except you can't look at 4chan

[Anonymous No.16375776]

>>16366855
Stop describing my life

[Anonymous No.16375975]

>>16366966
faggot

[Anonymous No.16376044]

>>16375675
>a thread trying to get white guys to do internet Python bullshit exersizes to get a job
>thinking any day of the week you could even remotely compare to the level of professional level of programming of a (((pajeet)))
the level of cope in this thread is off the charts

white guys get stuck with the pleb level bullshit jobs that arent worth the time of H1Bs

[Anonymous No.16376073]

>>16372574
being a cop is a desk job. you speak to tramps all day and write a lot of shit that goes nowhere

[Anonymous No.16376221]

>>16367251
Don't listen to this bitter dumbass

[Anonymous No.16376237]

>>16367959
Not true

[Anonymous No.16376323]

>Let's say I learn to code
I recently started a website with barebones HTML and CSS. That shit is hard but rewarding. I eventually hope to start experimenting with Javascript and whatnot. Once I've got the full skillset, I'll be able to make whatever website I want. That's the goal, not some nebulous "muh programming" office job.

[Anonymous No.16376362]

>>16376044
Sorry rajesh, the east asians can program. The SEAs can program, the eastern europeans can program. You sad shitstained humans cannot, fuck off and stop saturating the market with your 90 IQ spaghetti code

The H1Bs are wanted because they're cheap, the skilled ones are not Indians, they're generally Chinese or from the former bloc, dumb fucking curry nigger

[Anonymous No.16376439]

>>16376323
HTML and CSS is basically OTJ learning. I don't even bother "learning" CSS because SO just tells you how to get shit working.

The backend architecture is far more interesting. Javascript is good but full-stack is a more fun endeavor

[Anonymous No.16376458]

>>16366855
ouch

I mean, personally, I try to work around all that and I am kind of lucky with my company, but it's very, very, VERY easy to fall into that exact trap you've described.

[Anonymous No.16376459]

>>16376362
>The H1Bs are wanted because they're cheap
keep telling yourself that trannyboi, I know it helps you COPE better, they make the exact same as whites

[Anonymous No.16376481]

>>16367050
The true answer right here.
Multiply your productivity with machine slaves.

[Anonymous No.16376503]

>>16376459
You mean like the Boeing contractors who were making $15 an hour in India?

And now Boeing paid the curry tax as I call it, hilarious just-desserts. Fuck trannies, jannies, and curry nigs

[Anonymous No.16376782]

>>16366789
Pick something, javascript, python, whatever. Then practice enough to learn the basics, then go to a boot camp. Take it seriously and devote yourself to it fully and you can get good enough to get a entry level job. It will take you about a year and a half if you're good to learn on the job until you can start making serious money, but there is plenty of money to be made. Go try it out at codecademy with the free courses they offer. Good luck OP I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.16376846]

>>16376459
You've been seething in this thread all day, back to your shitting street mudskin

[Anonymous No.16376986]

>>16366855
>mfw its true

[Anonymous No.16377012]

>>16369673
I hope you don't actually do that bro. There are other options than those two

[Anonymous No.16377061]

>>16366789
Design something for yourself. A website that provides some use... an application which fills a desire... or improve on an existing application in either of the above. Or try get involved with a team already doing great things. Pajeets get work because it is cheap and usually skilled enough to do basic things. Try to be brilliant, create something brilliant, then think of ways to earn from it.

[Anonymous No.16377104]

is this industry oversaturated? i mean holy fuck this is like the third thread today where someone is asking about "learning2code"

[Anonymous No.16377130]

>>16377104
No not at all, it's one of the things you won't see automated away and becoming good is beyond most pajeets.

[Anonymous No.16377148]

>>16366789
Haha she’s so pretty haha kill me

[Anonymous No.16377179]

>>16377130
What about devops? I am thinking about that path. I can already code (have done 6 projects with 1000+ LOC on each and in different langs - js, c++, rust, go) but i am too scared to go that route because of how much everyone is talking about it...

[Anonymous No.16377184]

>>16377104
It depends. It's hard but not if you're smart. Getting a bumfuck job somewhere is easy but you're headed nowhere and will never make money. It certainly is one of the few useful professions you can go into with real depth and payout for passion and dedication

[Anonymous No.16377261]

>>16377179
Talk to someone in the field you're interested in in your area, or wherever you are willing to move to. It's not like this stuff is industry secrets, most people are happy to share.

[Anonymous No.16377282]

>>16377104
Low tier jobs are oversaturated. There is a lot of room for skilled workers, but in order to get to the top you need to have at least 120 IQ, which you have to be born with, and you need to put in a lot of time, and passion. Learn2code is a meme if you're not intelligent, and not interested in field.

[Anonymous No.16377660]

>>16367098
>neet
>loser
pick one, wagecuck
you're on here too

[Anonymous No.16377697]

>>16375695

This is my view after wasting 4 years on it

It's a bottomless pit of esoteric knowledge divorced from humanity. You are spending your life learning about the rules of frameworks conjured up by some soi latte sipping web artisan. If it doesn't genuinely tickle your pickle to solve logic problems, don't bother.

[Anonymous No.16377843]

>>16377697

I've spent 5 years doing a pretty good job on software that isn't particularly important and for sure it's all complete bullshit

[Anonymous No.16377921]

>>16376044
>>16375675

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnXHzU-9dgI

Terry Davis discusses pajeets.

[Anonymous No.16378017]

>>16377697
Probably true.
If it isn't for you then it isn't for you.
For me it's the easiest shit in the universe, at the expense of autism.