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I used to think rich people must be geniuses. But I just met a multi millionaire and he is a complete idiot. He has no critical thinking skills and is truly a moron. Yet he somehow has made millions. How the fuck is this possible. I thought you had to be really smart to become rich. Am I right or wrong.

>> No.16277795

>>16277787
well. tell us how he got the money and we shall judge

>> No.16277801

You need to read The Millionaire Next Door, OP.

That and buy Chainlink.

>> No.16277807

>>16277795
He has some sort of sales business. I don't know much of the details other than he is a salesman who runs a business. And he has several millions I know that.

>> No.16277823

There are many ways to make millions. Some require smarts, some require luck, some just require right timing and connections. All require discipline to keep the money once you make it.

It is a stay poor mentality to think your smarts a lone will take you places

>> No.16277828

>>16277787
Most millionaires earn their money through connections. Usually familial connections, and you don't have to be smart to be born into the right family.

>> No.16277832
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>>16277787
that might be true for multi-millionaire, but what about billionaire

>> No.16277835

>>16277787
Oftentimes stupid people perceive brilliance as stupidity. Sorry Anon.

>> No.16277839

>>16277832
Jack Ma is straight retarded bud.

>> No.16277840

>>16277787
Confidence, connections, and risk-taking behavior.

For every guy like him, there are 2 identical guys trying and failing.

Just the act of trying with confidence makes it 100x more likely to happen though.

>> No.16277843

>>16277795
Judgement is only for God. You will be judged at the end of your existence of mortal flesh. The end is neigh. There is but one God and his name is Allah. His prophet is Mohammed (PBUH)

>> No.16277847

>>16277835
This.
Charisma and confidence are sometimes easy to exude when you have no critical thinking, as you don't doubt yourself.
This can result in many other dumb people thinking you know what you're doing, and following you.

>> No.16277852

>>16277832
is this post ironic?

>> No.16277859

>>16277835
Nope he is just legitimately a moron. He had to use his phone to calculate the tip on a $40 bill and made so many idiotic comments it was ridiculous.

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>>16277787
becoming a multi-millionaire is a function of how much value you provide for society.

money = value x number of people you impact

there are alot of smart people, but they only have one customer, their boss, so therefore their contribution to society is small.

contrast this with the inventor of the 'fart app', as silly as it sounds, it provides a small amount of entertainment to a large number of dumb people. so the impact on society is huge, even though it's a dumb idea.

so really becoming wealthy is a direct function of how many people in society you impact.

>> No.16277870

>>16277787
>>16277807
>sales business
145iq anons have it hard. They aren’t respected by geniuses but think themselves too smart to get excited over stupid ideas.
The stupider you are the more likely it is that you’ll think your invention is amazing and feel the need to execute
>la croix + grain alcohol = white claw
>shorts for bros = Chubbies
>donuts that you can see being fried = krispy kreme
>people having sex = girlsdoporn
You get the idea. The meme about brainlets and 150+iq geniuses making it is true.

>> No.16277876

>>16277864
or perceived value aka fake value aka value is the eye of the observer

>> No.16277877

>>16277787
>I thought you had to be really smart to become rich.

Where did you get that idea? Getting rich is mostly about selling something and being an extroverted salesman is way more important than being some introverted genius.

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>>16277828
>>16277859
poorfag cope

>> No.16277890

>>16277864
Great explanation anon. Based

>> No.16277891

>>16277843
You’re Muslim. What coin do you hold brother

>> No.16277892

>>16277843
tell that to the jews

>> No.16277893
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16277893

Two ''streetwise'' billionaires knowing how to push peoples buttons.

If you think you need to be an on the spectrum, rational thinking tech nerd being first to adapt breakthrough advancements in order to get rich you are living in a bubble.

>> No.16277910

>>16277891
75% Stinkies
25% XLM

If this doesn't work out, I'm strapping on a suicide vest and going to Disney World.

>> No.16277921

>>16277892
They're pigs and apes.

>> No.16277930

>>16277787
Dah, how do you think smart people get rich? By exploiting or/and cooperating with stupid rich people.

>> No.16277944

>>16277839
not even close
try forming good opinions before posting

>> No.16277969

>>16277870
Hey man girlsdoporn is not stupid

>> No.16277988

>>16277969
t. COOOOOM

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>>16277944
In Chinese he speaks almost entirely in idiom.
He's an overblown motivational speaker who got lucky due to CCP preferential treatment for a while, under the Jiang Zemin and Shanghai clique regime. Something which has now ended.
Fuck off if you don't know anything about China.

>> No.16278015

>>16277864
>becoming a multi-millionaire is a function of how much value you provide for society.
Jesus christ imagine posting this ON A FUCKING SHITCOIN GAMBLING FORUM
Insight: 0
Awareness: 0
IQ: Negative

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>>16277999
>>16278015

>> No.16278081

>>16278064
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you can't say millionaires are dumb I plan to be one some day!!!!

>> No.16278082

>>16277999
based trips, how heavy is this dude's brain

>> No.16278084

Am I a failure if I'm a multimilionare via cripto?

>> No.16278106

>>16278084
you're a failure for posting on /biz/

>> No.16278124

>>16277787
>I thought you had to be really smart to become rich
0/10 commie troll thread
op obviously thought lottery winnings are tied to an iq test

>> No.16278130

>>16278015
you're unironically the dumbest poster of this board if you haven't understood a large part of the value crypto provides to society is hope/gambling/community
for that dynamic to exist, a select few must win. lose the egotistical brainlet mindset of looking at one individual and consider the overall trend. one shitcoiner making it makes a thousand retards believe, and that belief is worth the money they spend because we live in a post scarcity society where people are so detached from reality they bitch about being poor while shitposting worldwide from the comfort of their heated home

>> No.16278141

>>16277787
Charisma beats intelligence everytime. Truthfully intelligence isn't all that useful abs unless you're past 160iq you'd be better off just having good social skills

>> No.16278143

>>16277787
>>16278124
if it makes you feel better op, you would find the same things if you talked to a lot of academics. or politicians. or literally any kind of power roles really

>> No.16278152

>>16278130
Genuine lol.

>> No.16278185

>>16277969
>said the coombrain

>> No.16278203

>>16278082
This look at the size of that niggas head, he’s at 147iq

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>>16277787
Some are smart, like people who become medical doctors or top programmers. Then there are larger part millionaires who are lucky coin flippers, entrepreneurs, investors and gamblers, this group is nominal iq

>> No.16278252

>>16277801
Is that the book where people live on struggle meals, live in corkboard apartments and horde money as a cheap ass? If so miss me with that gay shit

>> No.16278269

>>16277870
the guys behind girlsdoporn are looking at life prison sentences fyi

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>>16278238
how to find a cute math girl?

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>>16278064
I bet you even think you could get party membership through something other than guangxi and a substantial degree of brown-nosing.

>> No.16278306

>>16278252
Based

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>>16278238
>Forbes says that 30 percent of the Forbes 400 members inherited their wealth and the remaining 70 percent are entirely “self-made.”
>United for a Fair Economy breaks down the Forbes list using a baseball analogy. It says 35 percent of the list was born in the “batter’s box,” with a lower-middle class or middle-class background.
>The report says 22 percent of the list were born on first base: they came from a comfortable but not rich background and might have received some start-up capital from a family member. This group includes Mark Zuckerberg and hedge funder Louis Bacon, who started Moore Capital Management with help from a small inheritence.
>Only 11.5 percent were born on second base, the report says. Second base is defined as people who inherited a medium sized company or more than $1 million or got “substantial” start-up capital from a business or family member.
https://www.cnbc.com/id/49167533

>> No.16278343

>>16277843
incredibly based and astronomically red-pilled

>> No.16278342

>>16277787
some naïveté is necessary to make it

>> No.16278360
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>>16277864
I'm screencapping this.

>> No.16278370

>>16277843
Incredibly cringe and bluepilled

>> No.16278371

>>16277787
You don't have to be a genius to be successful. You can do really well with average intelligence and learning from your mistakes.

>> No.16278397

>>16277787
retards are usually better at risk taking bc, like you said, they're fucking retards and dont completely understand the consequence.

Genius often too caught up in what could go wrong rather than whats at the finish line. just grow nuts

>> No.16278449

>>16278312
Nigga the fuck is this base shit, I got to third base with your mom.
t. milflover

>> No.16278598

>>16278130
Pretty based.

>> No.16278606

I know a multimillionaire with 2 planes. He can’t fucking read.

>> No.16278615

>>16278130
Based retard

>> No.16278619 [DELETED] 

>>16278606
Brian Grazer?

>> No.16278628

>>16277787
I know a rich person who has an assistant to speak for him. Not because he’s rich but because he can’t handle conversation.

>> No.16278647

>>16278064
>selling heroin is providing value

>> No.16278655

>>16278269
what did they do wrong exactly?

>> No.16278667

>>16278655
They had girls come over for modeling and told them they had to do porn instead or they wouldn't pay for their flight home, and also that the porn wouldn't be for widespread distribution but instead for some rich client's personal collection in Australia.

>> No.16278688

>>16277864
based stinker

>> No.16278719

>>16277787
Congrats. You just realized most of financial success comes down to dumb luck.

>> No.16278731

>>16277921
>says the muzzie

>> No.16278760

>>16278719
HA cope

>> No.16278785

>>16277832

He made a rip off Ebay/Amazon selling dildos while being sponsored by the Chinese government. Are you really looking up to this bug man?

>> No.16278798

>>16278785
Alibaba>Ebay Amazon

>> No.16278899

>>16277787
It's the IQ paradox. Low IQ's and High IQ's live in objective reality, but if you're in the 90-120 range you're a midwit who's reality is subjective.

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>>16278899
Yo that explains a lot about myself. wtf.

>> No.16278984

>>16277843
i piss on allah

>> No.16278988

>>16277843
Allah is a false God, mohammed is a false prophet, follow them and they will take you to hell

>> No.16279051

>>16277787
>>16277823
>>16277835
>>16277840
There is no correlation between IQ and becoming wealthy. The wealthy have one thing in common, they take action. More often then not the action fails, but they continue until finally it succeeds. The commonality amongst the poor is inacation. It can be seen everyday and in every thread. Anons blame ominous Jewish people, parents, geography, government policy, etc. The problem with that mindset is that the boogey man stopping you is an illusion in your mind. If you take action and face the challenges head on, then you will make it.

>> No.16279110

>>16277787
You ever watch The Apprentice on TV? Almost all of the contestants are retards, but they have some important advantages: self-confidence and charisma. They get rich not because they are smart, but because they are able to SELL what they are peddling. Same as how they are able to easily get women.

>> No.16279125

>>16278449
>t. mil flower

>> No.16279142
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Richest guy person I met was my friends dad who was a blue collar boomer who owned a crane company, started out buying some used crane and snowballing from there, eventually sold the company for 55 million. He was based though and could beat like 6 red alert 2 AI on the hardest difficult so was probably high IQ

>> No.16279154

>>16278760
Recognizing that my wealth is not entirely self made isn’t cope it’s just growing up.

>> No.16279198

>>16278397
>>16279051
These posts are right, some other ones too probably but the main takeaway is that you can't get rich sitting in your room crying about jews and you will definitely experience difficulties and failures.

>> No.16279214

>>16279154
obviously luck plays a role but it's not the deciding factor

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>>16277787

>> No.16279783

>>16279051
theres a correlation between low IQ and failure in life, but once you get above a certain threshold IQ, your success is roughly independent form IQ

>> No.16279885

>>16279142

posts like this are why i love /biz/

>> No.16279949

>>16277787
thats a lot of rich people. remember anon its a clown world! honk honk

>> No.16279982

>>16277787
>Sees one single instance of a rich person that isn't very intelligent and makes insight on the entire concept of acquiring wealth.

>> No.16279997

>>16277864
I see you’re walking the path annon

Congratulations, your on the path of the real /biz/nessmen, well on the way to becoming an initiate

>> No.16280505

>>16277864
ok boomer

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>>16279142
>mfw reading "The Millionaire Next Door" and finding out what a "dull-normal" business was
So fucking based.

>> No.16280769

>>16278287
College pre algebra

>> No.16280788

>>16279051
So why haven't YOU made it, faggot?

>> No.16280820

>>16278988
This, but hell is not eternal.

>> No.16280835

>>16278130
You sound like you're poor.

>> No.16280857

>>16277864
That makes sense. Reminds me of the stereotype of someone that got rich by inventing some stupid little thing that everyone and their mother ends up buying.

>> No.16280862

>>16277843

praise bova unto him

>> No.16280892

>>16280788
It would be far more helpful for you to use some introspection then to ask about random anon. I’ve made it several times, but I’m still trying to make it. I set goals and plan the action required to meet those goals. After each time I make it, I reset the goal and have to find out how to make it again. I could stop now, but then I will have nothing to live for.

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>>16277832
rofl

>> No.16280920

>>16277801
Crypto is dead faggot

>> No.16281038

>>16277801
What books are legit?

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>>16278667
Lol no wonder some of those girls didn't seem into it. Also, no wonder some of them openly said they're cheating on their boyfriends...

>> No.16281080

Generally being wealthy takes a percentage of the following 3 areas.

1. be lucky (i.e. natural talent, right place right time, relationship to people of power)
2. take risks with other people money
3. be willing to fuck over anyone no matter how close they are to you.

work as hard as you want. unless you are willing to do the above, you will only ever achieve moderate wealth. at that point you need to decide what that money is going to buy you that you can't have without it.

Once you begin to acquire wealth, get a good/shady accountant, hide your money in companies and other shit... art, gold, overseas investment, real estate (cash buy). get a pre-nump. put some money in an ira. if you are famous ... be a public philanthropist to help people forget the horrible things you did to get . where you are.

>> No.16281124

Stupid people connect better with stupid people. You have a 50% market share that connects with you and is awful with money.

Just look at instagram. The highest liked pages are all stupid people living the "high life" making a ton of money because they can capture the attention of that 50%. Most intelligent people aren't staring at someone on instagram and commenting how cute their vacation is to the bahamas.

>> No.16281165

You guys have no idea.

>Be me, born into a well off family
>Multi-generational family business gets sold to a private equity firm, suddenly we're rich
>The bank we invest in invites me to a program they run basically for kids of ultra high net worth individuals to meet and network
>Everyone attending comes from a family with at least 100 million in assets invested with the bank
>Many are fine people
>A solid percentage are dumb as shit

You wouldn't believe some of these people. One guy, his family's business was selling overpriced walk in bath tubs to old boomers. Apparently they got rich as shit off that.

A Princeton-Chad looking guy got 2 million from his dad to start an "AI-based hedge fund". Everything he said sounded like complete lunacy (and I say this as someone who does machine learning for a living).

Another dude looked like a hillbilly out of deliverance dressed in heavy metal t-shirts. His dad has some kind of mob-boss like control over all chain restaurants in the Bible belt. This dude had no clue how rich his family was until someone told him the wealth limit for attending the program.

And lots of other garden variety failsons. Anyway, having money has zero correlation with intelligence or skill.

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>>16277787
Get a million RSR

>> No.16281231

>>16277787
Most rich people are not self made dumbass. They either inherit the wealth or are Jews and get free money.

>> No.16281267

>>16279234
Holy shit this is so true I feel physical pain.

>> No.16281280

>>16277864
>so really becoming wealthy is a direct function of how many people in society you impact

This means the Jewish people have the greatest impact in our societies. But like your farting app example they swindle our money with degeneracy and usury that saps our soul energy.

>> No.16281283

>>16277787

>I just met a multi millionaire and he is a complete idiot

Let me let you in a on a little secret. Not everyone goes around trying to show off their intelligence.
If I was a multimillionaire I'd do exactly that, I'd pretend to be a moron and watch normies like you seethe.

>> No.16281294

>>16281283
Based

>> No.16281334

>>16277864
>there are alot of smart people, but they only have one customer, their boss, so therefore their contribution to society is small.
>contrast this with the inventor of the 'fart app', as silly as it sounds, it provides a small amount of entertainment to a large number of dumb people. so the impact on society is huge, even though it's a dumb idea.
Right, but there is one part of the equation you're missing.
The case you're referring to is selling an app for $1 to 1,000,000 people.
But the end result is exactly the same as if you sold a $1,000 product to just 1,000 people (or an $80 a month subscription service provided to corporations, for instance...)
Your product doesn't have to have mass appeal and be the next Flappy Bird. It can also be a product that provides IMMENSE value to a niche subset of people.
For more on that, look up "1000 true fans."

>> No.16281418

>>16277787
Have you ever heard of Donal Trump?

>> No.16281438

>>16277787

I heard on a podcast (forget which) that a valet driver met millionaires who didn't know how to pump their own gasoline

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>>16277787
does my sub 20 iq mean I will be a millionaire like him? :)

my assumption is that one of my side projects will do good with gen z - driporskip.app

and I did make a site for you /biz/raelis a while back, its offline now though, maybe I should put it back up

>> No.16281671

>>16281418
lmao living rent free.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.16281689

im a millionaire

the only time you would see me in public is in my pajamas, high and drunk as fuck at a gas station at any given hour

if you spoke to me I probably didn't want to talk to you so I said the most basic thing I could manage

yeah, makes a lot of sense that people imagine me as dumb
You have interactions that last for mere seconds. You know so little.

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>>16281438

>Be born into privilege and wealth
>Go to best schools and learn about culture, finance, science and the finer things in life.
>One day you are expected to pump a literal flammable liquid/explosion hazard into your mode of transportation with your bare hands.
>You are somewhat apprehensive, this doesn't seem like a task for you.
>Meanwhile some wagecuck who reeks of marijuana and won't shut up about someone called 'Joe Rogan' laughs and looks at you with dead fish eyes.
>Wagecuck dusts cheetos of his fingers and attempts to communicate with you.
>'Derd yer pappi ne tell you how to pump der gasses? Yeehehehe what a hoot 'n a holler,' he says, spit flying everywhere with each word.

>Mfw

>> No.16281714

>>16281283
based

>> No.16281761

>>16277787
>I thought you had to be really smart to become rich
fucken kek! i heard a news piece just a few weeks ago about a "psychic" who was charged with fraud for convincing a multimillionaire to give her hundreds of thousands of dollars to lift a curse placed upon her family. rich people are just as dumb as the rest of us. money gives everyone a false air of legitimacy

>> No.16281824

>>16278647

Supply and demand, unfortunately for opiates; the demand is a self-increasing dynamic aka addiction

>> No.16281843

>>16280820

I read Lincoln said most people are as happy as they decide to be

The I realized heaven or hell can be anywhere people decide it to be

>> No.16281863

>>16281124

There's a large difference between "low IQ" and "stupid."

I tend to believe most low IQ people have they advantage of not overthinking simple things like self-inflicted autists do, hence they approach human relationships with more authenticity from the outset

In a way it's more intelligent

>> No.16281875

>>16281863
>Difference between low IQ and stupid.

Yeah, no there really isn't. You have 0 evidence for that besides the fact that you think the local mailman has some quotable folksy wisdom.

>> No.16281958

>>16281671
Why do people say this when it’s about something completely unrelated to them? You know trump thinks you’re a loser right?

>> No.16281987

>>16277787
>>16277787
Didn't read the rest of the thread yet, but you're absolutely not wrong. My grandfather (who isn't rich) has many multi-millionaire friends. They are all retarded, 105 IQ at the most if I had to guess. They all were unfaithful to their wives and have multiple sets of women usually with Hispanic women. They are miserable assholes who worship money and Warren Buffet. My grandfather is super shallow and worships these friends and yet hasn't realized they just got lucky with the stocks they bought as young men. The smartest one invested the seal for orange juice containers or something, so he's the most interesting to talk to.

>> No.16282000

>>16281987
yes, feds' inflationist policy has mainly benefited people who bought stocks early

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>>16277787
Was his name Vitalik Buterin?

>> No.16282010

>>16281987
Multiple sets of children* sorry for the 2 IQ phone post

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>>16277859
>He had to use his phone to calculate the tip on a $40 bill


Being bad/lazy at math doesn't make you stupid. Ultimately at some point becoming wealthy is about risk tolerance, and anyone who knows math too well knows that odds are never in their favor so smart people ignore or don't bother with math because numbers are gay lies made up by the Jews to keep the common man im his place.