Shrooms

[Anonymous No.16194342]

Whats /biz/´s take on starting to grow Psilocybe Cubensis, i guess its a big investment in time and money with all the equipment needed, then there is some risk involved but it seems like a comfy hobby tbqh

[Anonymous No.16194373]

>>16194342
Can they be fertilized with shrimp? I have a lot of dead shrimp for reasons I don’t really want to go into

[Anonymous No.16194396]

>>16194342
dude, n*gger truck driver from my freight side-hussle rolled over my shroom farm...pulling it out to put shrimp in now...

[Anonymous No.16194404]

>>16194342
>a pressure cooker
>jars
>substrate
Literally the easiest drug to make at home

[Anonymous No.16194418]

They're amazing. Can really better your personality... Kinda points out the things that you are doing wrong but you are not aware of them.

[Anonymous No.16194425]

Friend grew them. He took a large dose and it made him have a mental breakdown and he has never been the same. He can no longer function on his own, lost his job and had to move back in with his parents who were shocked and saddened by what has become of him.

[Anonymous No.16194437]

If you decide to grow psychoactive mushrooms make certain that you're doing it in a state in which it is legal for you to do so. Also make sure you don't give anyone a reason to search your property.

>big time investment

Not even remotely.

[Anonymous No.16194448]

>>16194425
you sound like the person whos too scared to hit a joint

[Anonymous No.16194453]

>>16194448
I’ll hit ya mum ya daft cunt

[Anonymous No.16194460]

>>16194425
larp

[Anonymous No.16194468]

>>16194453
please go back to where ever youre from, couldnt even understand what you said

[Anonymous No.16194479]

>>16194342
I grew around 12 ounces for about $350 and still have enough supplies left over to grow 10x that. I just wish I knew how to go about selling some. I grew it for personal use but wasn't expecting as much as I got.

[Anonymous No.16194495]

>>16194342
If you live in a western state it's probably worth it to experiment growing at scale, since they'll probably be fully legal there within a decade. If you have grow experience you can get a leg up on the competition when the commercial shroom rush starts in earnest.

[Anonymous No.16194635]

>>16194404
Pressure cooker? Explain

[Anonymous No.16194643]

>>16194425
Things that didn’t happen for $2000 Alex

>you

[Anonymous No.16194809]

>>16194404
dont you need like big plastic containers and tents with air ventilation of sorts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftNI7v0gMs4

[Anonymous No.16194858]

>>16194342
i would much rather pick them off the fields, I used to buy weed from a hippie couple years ago that would pick them locally and they were the best shrooms I ever had. but Ive been looking all over the last 2 years and cant find these little bastards.these hippies swore that you should only take shrooms that grow in your local area as theyre evolved for your own metabolism or some shit, might sound like esoteric nonsense but these were really the best shrooms I ever had.

[Anonymous No.16194893]

>>16194373

[Anonymous No.16194941]

>>16194479
Darkweb

[Anonymous No.16195148]

>>16194425
Can support this claim.
Shrooms fucked me up for a whole year. Was a complete zombie. Te first month I would get these "wake ups" where I would be doing something and then feel like I just appeared in the world or woke up.

[Anonymous No.16195185]

Nice bread.

[Anonymous No.16195538]

>>16194858
How does your local plant align with your metabolism that’s the most retarded bullshit I ever heard. They are native to the area so they’ve been there forever probably in great condition after evolving to survive and thrive. This is the most likely scenario.

[Anonymous No.16195569]

>>16194479
farmer's market.
sell them as shitake or some oriental foreign shit

[Anonymous No.16195595]

>>16195569
lmao

do this

[Anonymous No.16195608]

>>16195538
t. atheist.
Don't have to be a cunt about it dipshit.

[Anonymous No.16195621]

>>16194453
based northerner

[Anonymous No.16195659]

>>16194425
Is that what happened to xander?

[Anonymous No.16195676]

>>16195538
>how do animals evolve to better metabolize the foods in their surroundings?
The absolute state

[Anonymous No.16195730]

Legalize all drugs. Kill all the baby boomers

[Anonymous No.16195824]

>>16195148
I've done a few big doses and only had that once when in the exact same situation as i had taken them. Just suddenly felt a bit weirded out as if i was beginning a trip but it disappeared quickly. Otherwise not a single effect post trip at all.

[Anonymous No.16195960]

>>16195148
nigga I get these while sober

[Anonymous No.16195994]

>>16195960
>nigga
kys

[Anonymous No.16196180]

>>16194342
The set up isn't really expensive. Maybe nice heat lamps can add up but most teks are cheap af, Spores aren't expensive either. So long as your sterile technique is decent you won't have many wasted batches.
Your return on investment is going to depend highly on where you're located, boomers seem to either be incredibly hard to get a hold of or you're surrounded by sources.
The biggest pain in the ass may be finding space if you're trying to grow for profit, but if you have a dank closet or basement you're in business.

[Anonymous No.16196314]

>>16195960
I was sober you dimwit.

[Anonymous No.16196456]

>>16194425
/ourguy/

[Anonymous No.16196767]

>>16194373
tell, we must know the reasons behind your mass of shrimp carcass

[Anonymous No.16196849]

>>16194425
That's called realizing the world is a fucking lie.

[Anonymous No.16196871]

>>16194373
No.

[Anonymous No.16196965]

>>16196849
Cuck.
"In the grand scheme of cosmos it doesn't matter that Jamal is pleasuring my girlfriend."

[Anonymous No.16197020]

>>16196965
Leave it to the faggot to turn anything into a cuck thread

[sunwheeler No.16198159]

stam. build

[Anonymous No.16198203]

>>16196965
What are you on about, cumbrain

[Anonymous No.16198206]

>>16195960
>>16196314
he means while never having taken shrooms

that's why I won't do it, I already am like half a schizo, pretty sure shrooms will send me over the edge

[Anonymous No.16198222]

>>16196965
>Jamal
kek, I may be half a schizo but at least I don't have a name for my imaginary bull

[Anonymous No.16198238]

>>16194342
Shrooms are very situational for me. I have had some of the best and some of the worst trips on them vs LSD

[Anonymous No.16198251]

>>16194425
>>16195148
if you are predisposed to psychosis it can activate a break earlier. It was going to happen regardless.

[Anonymous No.16198264]

>>16194342
4 aco DMT (psilocin) is much superior to real shrooms that contain actual poisons that make you nauseous and can cause bad trips, also much faster to synthesize then to wait for mushrooms to grow. recently the only pellet provider when out of business so theres a spot in the market for ppl trying to sell easily consumable psychedelics.

[Anonymous No.16198298]

>>16196965
coomer has entered the thread

[Anonymous No.16198330]

>>16195148
A family member of mine did them too often and ended up killing himself. It is something you want to take serriously.

[Anonymous No.16198345]

>>16198264
>4 aco DMT
how do I make this in my basement?

[Anonymous No.16198360]

>>16194342
I bought spores myself to start this hobby. Does anyone have a a good tek to make a fruiting chamber? I don't have a power drill that is my only issue

[Anonymous No.16198381]

>>16196965
Based

[Anonymous No.16198388]

>>16194893
biz was so fun before 2017

[Anonymous No.16198392]

>>16198345
become chemist

[Anonymous No.16198394]

>>16195659
He probably mixed pcp with ketamine. Never mix upper with downer

[Anonymous No.16198414]

>>16198394
Thanks fren, good to know

[Anonymous No.16198415]

>>16198264
The root bark is super fucking expensive, DMT is likely one of the most expensive drugs

[Anonymous No.16198426]

>>16198360
Just do 4-5 dub tubs using two 6qt sterilite shoebox tubs like pic related I have 4 going in my room right now and have gotten ~12 oz dry so far. It's a great way to start and get comfortable growing and helps to keep contamination from destroying your whole grow. I haven't had any problems with contams yet but if it were to happen these allow you to quickly remove the contaminated trays before it spreads to the rest.

[Anonymous No.16198444]

>>16194342
PFtek tutorials and substrate guides
/thread

[Anonymous No.16198450]

>>16194858
do you have any tips for identifying them/environments to look in?

[Anonymous No.16198460]

>>16198345
$50 worth of chemicals from the hardware store and order the rootbark powder legally online, extract the DMT yourself

[Anonymous No.16198469]

>>16198426
thanks, thats quite the haul. hope i can get that much

[Anonymous No.16198494]

4acoDMT is not nnDMT

[Anonymous No.16198506]

>>16198469
I'm positive I got lucky, although i took really good care to keep everything clean. It was still a strait multispore to grain grow so really good yeild considering. If you really want to get into the hobby buy like 25 borosilicate glass petri dishes and get into genetic strain isolation. Once you get good single strains isolated you can have huge yeilds.

[Anonymous No.16198743]

>>16194342
Azurescants or bust pal

[Anonymous No.16198950]

>>16194342
Absolutely degenerate

[Anonymous No.16198957]

>>16198950
Exploratory or healing hallucinogen use isn't degenerate. Abusing it can be.

[Anonymous No.16198975]

>>16198957
Junkie cope

[Anonymous No.16199017]

>>16198957
>Exploratory or healing

it literally just fries your brain lol

[Anonymous No.16199129]

Druggie here, I know SO MUCH SHIT that can be bought or resold to make bank if you really wanted to. Mescaline cactuses are one thing. They can grow a foot a year, and sell the cuttings for $50 each.

[Anonymous No.16199157]

>>16199129
They take years to grow to maturity, so unless you live in southern Arizona or New Mexico and can harvest natural growing peyote it would not be worth it.

[Anonymous No.16199183]

>>16199129
Btw how would I go about selling a bunch of extra shrooms I have? I have no friends or acquaintances from that world anymore since I got clean from heroin a few years ago so I dont have any local contacts.

[Anonymous No.16199203]

>>16194342
if I recall correctly there isnt much in terms of equipment. Back when I was like 15 I remember looking into buying spore and all you needed was a tank and some shit. it's not like they need light or anything

[Anonymous No.16199219]

>>16194425
based neet

[Anonymous No.16199242]

>>16199203
Actually mushrooms do need light. They aren't dependent and will grow in the dark but all stages from mycelial colonization to fruiting benefit greatly from light. Light is also a major pinning trigger that signals which direction to grow (up).

[Anonymous No.16199559]

>>16199157
peyote is far from the only mescaline containing cactus, san pedro contains almost equal concentrations in its photosynthetic flesh, they grow much faster and can be cultivated at home. not to mention they tend to produce better trips as they contain a host of other chemicals which reduce nausea and improve the experience.

[Anonymous No.16199572]

>>16199242
they requre light for the same reason people do, to produce vitamin D, which is produced by exposure to UV B radation, you can buy grow lights which emmit this type o light and then can be grown indoors away from windows

[Anonymous No.16199580]

>>16194396
Wat

[Anonymous No.16199644]

There is no real market.

People try then ones and they get spooked and if they try then again it takes months...or years.

[Anonymous No.16199669]

>>16199559
Mescaline has always spooked me out. Doesn't the trip last two fucking days?

[Anonymous No.16199692]

>>16198415
>>16198460
4 aco DMT is not DMT. They are different drugs

[Anonymous No.16199724]

>>16195730
man i just want some coca tea

[Anonymous No.16199745]

>>16194479
Glow

[Anonymous No.16199776]

>>16195730
Most truly based post on 4channel.org right now.

[Anonymous No.16200082]

>>16199669
no, not at all. 12-16 hours, not all that longer than lsd, and the trip is also a lot lighter and easier to walk thorugh. its by far the most gentle psychedelic of the classic 3

[Anonymous No.16200088]

>>16199572
I never said the light had to be from the sun.

[Anonymous No.16200101]

>>16199692
the probability that 4aco is not just a prodrug is very low, in the body acetly groups tend to be replaced with oxygen especially in cyclic molecules such as the aromatic ring present in psysolcin

[Anonymous No.16200122]

>>16200088 wasn't saying you were wrong i was just adding more context so no anons would get the light usage by fungis confused with photosynthetic mechanism of plans since most people see "needs light" and thinks it means to produce energy.

[Anonymous No.16200138]

>>16200122
It doesn't even need to be a uv producing light like most grow lights. Literally any light will do, although lights with a more natural color temperature are generally better.

[Anonymous No.16200187]

>>16200138
standard light will induce pinning and be used as a target to grow towards, but uv b producing lights will yeild more potent larger mushrooms, as well as likley increasing the concentration of other psychoactive produced

[Anonymous No.16200290]

>>16198264
dude fuck that, i've tripped on 4-AcO-DMT 5-6 times and even at high doses the visuals and sense of oneness don't compare to regular shrooms. I don't care if psilocin and psilacetin (4-AcO-DMT) are one atom off or even both prodrugs, i felt a difference between them especially at higher doses

[Anonymous No.16200313]

>>16200290
Dont forget that mushrooms contain more than just psylocibin, if you had pure entranced psylocibin in the exact same dosage as 4aco i highly doubt you would be able to tell the diffrence,

[Anonymous No.16200326]

>>16194396
you definitely shouldn't post stoned my dude

[Anonymous No.16200395]

Are the CEVs i.e. internal hallucinations better on 4-aco-dmt or LSD?

Is the 4-aco worth trying even though I think I've solved all my personal problems?

[Anonymous No.16200408]

>>16200395
they are very diffrent, 4aco is similar to dmt where lsd is more detailed dreal mike cevs

[Anonymous No.16200417]

>>16200395
I meant to write "figured out" all my personal problems, etc

[Anonymous No.16200534]

>>16198388
>>16198388
biz barely moved before 2017, but it was less infested with all this crypto bullshit

[Anonymous No.16200564]

>>16194425
Psychedelics are definitely not for everybody. Even weed. If you're already mentally unstable and take shrooms your mental instability could be amplified ten-fold which could fuck you up for months afterwards, or even forever if it was severe enough. It's extremely dangerous to pretend that psychedelics are this magical, flawless cure-all that can be prescribed to anybody. You faggots need to stop.

[Anonymous No.16200814]

>>16200564
He was a very intelligent guy but shy. Shrooms destroyed him mentally. I really don’t care if strangers on the internet don’t believe me, they can fuck their brains up all they want but those who listen or those I care about I want to let them know what can happen.

[Anonymous No.16200979]

I grew them once - I was really poor at the time and the gear needed, plus the spores (which I purchased from a company advertising in High Times) was very cheap. They took a little while to grow, but I had enough of a harvest to get me and all my friends stoned every weekend for an entire summer. Good times!

[Anonymous No.16201000]

>>16196965
You are fucking retarded if this is the first thing that comes to your mind when you read my comment, but you're probably not, you're probably just some huge seething jewish rat somewhere.

[Anonymous No.16201004]

>>16198251
likely this :(

[Anonymous No.16201009]

>>16200814
What were the adverse effects? Did he become a pedophile or something?

[Anonymous No.16201030]

>>16200814
You didn't mention much, guy. Did he take small amounts first then one heroic dose that did him in? Or what?

[Anonymous No.16201033]

its easier than growing weed, however the most important step is sterilize the fuck out of everything when you start otherwise you wont know you fucked up for like a month. have fun

[Anonymous No.16201038]

>>16194425
sounds like your friend is a fucking pussy who cant respect psychedelics

[Anonymous No.16201042]

>>16201000

You make think I'm 'jokin when I say this, but I'm not.

When I took 105ug I started seeing nosebergs and shekelnoses everywhere... that damn pattern recognition enhancement... XD Truly, uncovering the veil behind normal reality......

[Anonymous No.16201058]

>>16194858
>i would much rather pick them off the fields
so me being a slav, growing up, my grandparents took me mushroom hunting and when we got home, the mushrooms were soaked in salt water for a few hours and a shit ton of bugs and critters come out. do you have to do the same with wild shrooms?

[Anonymous No.16201072]

also whats your opinion about buying spores from clearnet like hawkseye

[Anonymous No.16201081]

>>16200313
>>16200290
this, mescaline on its own is completely different from a cactus extraction. there's tons of related compounds in trace quantities that affect the trip. think of how different strains of weed have different effects vs straight thc oil is pretty much the same high always

[Anonymous No.16201084]

>>16201072
It's fine. The only way anyone would know is if you told them.

[Anonymous No.16201086]

>>16201072
Though their spores are a little more expensive than other sites, I'm pretty sure they have some good standards though because I never saw spores from there that had any contamination.

[Anonymous No.16201091]

>>16200101
that doesn't mean anything for how it binds to the receptor. 4acodmt and 4podmt(psilocybin) are prodrugs for 4hodmt(psilocin), however what you describe about metabolism would affect the trip in terms of how fast that conversion takes place

[Anonymous No.16201103]

>>16201058
You probably wouldn't experience this problem with psychoactive mushrooms, when they grow, they grow extremely fast, so if you find some in the wild, the chances that bugs had enough time to burrow into the fungi are slim, also the psychoactive properties are a natural defense against bugs, so again , it's unlikely that you would find a lot of them.

[Anonymous No.16201119]

>>16201009
No he became completely irrational and delusional. Can’t interact with people because he makes up things in his head that are not true about people he interacts with and believes them. They usually make no logical sense.

[Anonymous No.16201127]

>>16201030
Just a few doses over a month or so. He did a large dose one time but I don’t know which dose did what it if it was doing them repeatedly. It destroyed multiple lives.

[Anonymous No.16201660]

>>16200564
It's the derealization/depersonalisation, which is directly caused by shrooms, that fucks with people not "underlying mental illness".

[Anonymous No.16201749]

>>16198330
how did he do it?

[Anonymous No.16201770]

>>16194425
That's what happens when peasants try to expand their minds. Stay in your lane, proles.

[Anonymous No.16201785]

>>16199157
where do I find peyote cacti, southern AZ bros?

[Anonymous No.16202054]

>>16194342

Why do you care what bizraelis think of your drug use

Biz approved drugs are adderall

[Anonymous No.16202086]

>>16201042
Kek

[Anonymous No.16202138]

Literally where the Fuck would you get the spores to cultivate these? It's 100% legal for me to grow in my state for personal use, bit if I were to order online, they would have to cross borders, which makes it federal domain, which it is illegal under.

[Anonymous No.16202146]

>>16194635
You use it to sterilize the substrate. You don't even need it. It just lowers your contam risk a lot.

>>16194809
Not really. A plastic container is what, 5 dollars? You dont really need a tent or anything like that either. As long as you properly clean your environment, you can use a closet or a big drawer. You might want to buy a lamp though.

[Anonymous No.16202148]

>>16202138
Spores are legal everywhere you dense fuck. Ofcourse you only ordered them to examine them with your microscope and the idea to actually cultivate them never crossed your mind

[Anonymous No.16202160]

>>16202148
I'm pretty sure psilocybin spores spefically are regulated by the DEA, and if so is probably justified through some commerce clause bullshit. Show me proof otherwise.

[Anonymous No.16202171]

>>16202160
Its definitely legal in europe, i dont give a fuck about goymerica

[Anonymous No.16202181]

>>16202171
Well I wasn't fucking talking about Europe, so why are you butting in all hostile like? Douche.

[Anonymous No.16202231]

>>16198426
>direct sunlight
>kys