/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.16166005]

>MY BOSS WORKED HARD TO INHERIT THE MONEY TO START THIS BUSINESS, HE DESERVES TO EXPLOIT ME AND FORCE ME TO WORK LIKE A SLAVE!

[Anonymous No.16166049]

My boss literally inherited his company and shows up once a month

[Anonymous No.16166066]

>>16166005
It must be hard being such a retard.

[Anonymous No.16166079]

>>16166005
you're free to quit anytime :)

[Anonymous No.16166080]

>>16166005
Jealous lil bitch

[Anonymous No.16166084]

>>16166005
It's your fault for not being smart enough to be born wealthy

[Anonymous No.16166088]

>>16166005
>force
Kys faggot

[Anonymous No.16166099]

>>16166005
99% of businesses are small businesses.
If you're working for someone who inherited the business its likely a larger business. If you're working for a larger business and being exploited you're literally a wagie. If you're a wagie then you're an idiot. If you're an idiot and can't better your own situation like everyone else does you deserve it.

[Anonymous No.16166109]

>>16166005
>FORCE ME TO WORK
t. time traveler from soviet russia. hi comrade

[Anonymous No.16166111]

>>16166005
Peru anon here
I have inherited a business but I do most of the work because workers here often try to steal and they are lazy too.

[Anonymous No.16166124]

>>16166005
>He doesn't put his extra money into volatile assets so he can make his own fortune and start a business someday.

[Anonymous No.16166144]

>>16166124
That's a wholesome yet entirely disturbing image

[Anonymous No.16166145]

>>16166005
His father worked hard and your boss is the living legacy of his father. If your boss is doing well, then the legacy of his father lives on. Deal with it fucking peasant.

[Anonymous No.16166191]

I see this type of faggotry in my own socialist country Norway.
The latter years the socialists have spent so much money on completely retarded shit to the point that they are now hungry for whatever people have inherited. They are triggered because fortune favored someone other than them and because they are to unimaginative to create something of their own they initiate the crab mentality.

I can only see them getting worse and being more vocal desu because they are illiterate when it comes to basic understanding of economics.

[Anonymous No.16166208]

>>16166066
Why are you talking about yourself?

[Anonymous No.16166220]

>>16166191
So how come you're poor?

[Anonymous No.16166260]

>>16166191
lets say a Peru person has inherited 3 million USD. how rich is he compared to a Norway person?

[Anonymous No.16166278]

>You know what. The workers should OWN the factory!!

[Anonymous No.16166289]

>>16166260
Very. Most Norwegians are indebted. Its one of the most heavily indebted populations of Europe, we are only rich on paper, but the charade goes on as long as we still have a good portion of the population willing to work.

[Anonymous No.16166306]

>>16166005
just be really lazy and incompetent at work. thats what i do

[Anonymous No.16166315]

>>16166278
Why shouldn't they? Coops are more efficient.

[Anonymous No.16166364]

I work in an Amazon warehouse

[Anonymous No.16166413]

>>16166005
Sounds like you'd fit in on Reddit op

[Anonymous No.16166422]

>>16166315
They're workers because they're dumb/lazy/inexperienced. People won't realize this from their low level McDonalds job but at real businesses the managers are more often than not straight up smarter, more hardworking, and more knowledgeable about the business than those below them. Otherwise those people would make it up the ladder themselves. It's a beautiful system and only fucking dumbass communists who don't know anything try to ruin it.

[Anonymous No.16166435]

>>16166315
They'll only be more efficient if they're small. You can't scale it. And, generally, they're less efficient.

[Anonymous No.16166452]

>>16166005
>my parents were failures and didn't leave me anything so nobody should be able to inherit anything

[Anonymous No.16166453]

>>16166005
The petit-bourgeois are the most honorable class.

[Anonymous No.16166496]

>>16166005
>>16166208
>NOOOOO WHY AM I SO POOR AND RETARDED GIBSMEDAT
>no u
You are a poorfag loser because your attitude and room temperature IQ don't allow for more.

[Anonymous No.16166530]

>>16166109
>>16166088

>hurr durr people are definitely not forced to work in free market capitalism. Everyone can just start a business or invest! What do you mean they have no money? Well tough shit get a job

[Anonymous No.16166563]

>>16166530
>what is a loan.

People make it every day. Move to Cuba then faggot. See how great it is there.

[Anonymous No.16166576]

>>16166563
Ok boomer

[Anonymous No.16166581]

>>16166496
So why are you poor then?

[Anonymous No.16166591]

>>16166315
>Coops are more efficient

No they're not. When you have collective ownership, there's no reason for you to be efficient because it doesn't result in more returns for you since your share is fixed. Everyone would be putting the least amount of effort.

[Anonymous No.16166595]

>>16166422
>>16166435
Any evidence for those asspulls?

[Anonymous No.16166599]

>>16166576
You're retarded, and this is coming from a self-made rich millennial.

[Anonymous No.16166603]

>>16166576
I'd rather be a boomer with a Bach and a boat than a cringe crying zoomer who lives in the easiest to make it time on earth but still whinges. Go to college get an easy job invest surplus in hobbies and shares and live comfortably. Or cry all day because you won't so anything.

[Anonymous No.16166608]

>>16166005
Nah, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more
Well, he hands you a nickel
And he hands you a dime
And he asks you with a grin
If you're havin' a good time
Then he fines you every time you slam the door
I ain't gonna work for, nah
I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more

[Anonymous No.16166618]

>>16166576
>everyone who isn't a stupid ass poorfag communist larper must be a boomer
See, that's why people point and laugh at you.
>>16166581
Lmao I'm not poor, stop projecting, retard.

[Anonymous No.16166627]

>>16166005
so what his parents decided to give their children a better life. What's your problem?

Also the real issue is the issue of money that is only by the state

[Anonymous No.16166662]

>>16166005
40% of Americans don't work for an employer in the conventional sense. Be just like them. Be happy with your handout or try harder. Crying about it doesn't improve things.

[Anonymous No.16166669]

>>16166591
Stay cucked, retard
https://www.thenation.com/article/worker-cooperatives-are-more-productive-than-normal-companies/

[Anonymous No.16166674]

>>16166627
This is what communists don't understand. I work harder so my family will have more wealth to inheret, not so Jamal can get gibs from my inheretance tax and piss it away on nigger stuff

[Anonymous No.16166676]

>>16166618
you sound really poor

[Anonymous No.16166679]

>>16166618
>Lmao I'm not poor
Prove it you low IQ faggot.

[Anonymous No.16166729]

>>16166674
exactly gibs don't have a right to shit just because gibs parents decided to fuck.

Why should we support other peoples decisions to fuck?

In Fact it hurts us as they consume resources.

Also property is more important than people as property is harder to make, eg the level up is property.

However the one argument in issue is the state has the only right to issue currency, so it a monopoly. This allows massive distortions that and tax. So there is some argument Jamal is fucked over by govt and maybe parents became rich by govt largesse.

[Anonymous No.16166733]

>>16166676
>>16166679
>seething
I'm not the whiny poorfag bitching about how evil the boss is.
I'm fine with my situation. Enjoy your miserable existance.

[Anonymous No.16166802]

>>16166099
his argument is access to capital

how do you start a small business without access to capital?

[Anonymous No.16166819]

>>16166124
YOU MEAN ALL MY FUCKING MONEY AND BORROWED MONEY INTO FUCKING CHAINLINK NIGGA

[Anonymous No.16167007]

>>16166005
You don’t have to work there, he’s not forcing you to do anything. You do it all on your own.

[Anonymous No.16167050]

>>16166669
Lol, I've looked at the source. The report provided no evidence on how are cooperatives are more productive. No numbers, nothing, just referencing of other papers written decades ago.

https://www.uk.coop/sites/default/files/uploads/attachments/worker_co-op_report.pdf

You're the literal retard, dude.

[Anonymous No.16167100]

>>16166005

>I AM A LAZY FAGGOT THAT IS TOO WEAK AND OR STUPID TO CREATE MY OWN UNIQUE COMPANY WITH A UNIQUE PRODUCT OR SERVICE, PLEASE PAY ME ALL YOU PROFITS BECAUSE IM A SNOWFLAKE

>BOO HOO MY PARENTS WERENT SMART OR STRONG ENOUGH TO START A BUSINESS AND GROOM ME FOR SUCCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO MASSIVE SOCIALIST FAGGOTS THAT DONT BELIEVE IN HARD WORK OR INNOVATION! FUCK HIM FOR HAVING SUCCESSFUL PARENTS AND GENETICS

Start your own business or stop complain you fucking wagecuck retard faggot

[Anonymous No.16167142]

>>16166802

You start a business without capital by providing value and using that value to reinvest and grow the business. Shit, I created a 6 figure business in less than a year with less than the cost of a couple dozen avocado toast meals this faggot op probably consumes every morning.

Yea, you arent going to be a billionaire overnight growing without access to capital, but if you are actually good at something, you'll quickly gain that access.

[Anonymous No.16167162]

>>16167142
but that is inefficient and unrealistic

Most business require capital to set up. Sure some won't, but that market will be filled first or rather serviced first.

[Anonymous No.16167165]

>>16166599
>what is something a boomer would say in response to "ok boomer"

[Anonymous No.16167166]

bernie wants to raise taxes 4% on the middle class to pay for medicare for the poor.
that's not taxing "the 1%" or billionaires that you complain about. democrats can't even support their own policies

[Anonymous No.16167168]

>>16166802

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVFb4pVy_4s

Here's a video of someone who isn't a completely useless fucking retard socialist making more money than op with less than $100.

[Anonymous No.16167186]

>>16167162
Wrong.

You're too retarded to make a profit high enough to grow a business. You do understand compounding right? No, not what your bull does to your socialist boypussy everynight, i mean turning $100 into $200 into $400 until you reach a point of saturation. I sold a $1 item for $10, bought 10 of that item, made $100, bought 100 of that item, sold $100. I finally hit a saturation point of around $1000/day for the product.

If you aren't trash and know how to manage your money and compound your profits, you could theoretically hit $1m in sales with less than a few hundred dollars in as little as a year.

[Anonymous No.16167198]

>>16167166
he taxes the rich a lot more, and the middle class ends up way ahead when you factor in not having to pay outrageous healthcare premiums and copays and deductibles. try to get the facts right before you start your boomer posting

[Anonymous No.16167222]

>>16167142
a business cannot "provide value" without access to capital. just what are you proposing? and nobody believes your larping that you're obviously doing in a pathetic attempt to bolster your argument.

[Anonymous No.16167223]

>>16167186
look I agree with the value increase proposition the problem is

YOU DID NOT MAKE MONEY NO ONE DOES

rather you swap pre existing amounts around from one ledger to another.

All those amounts come from debt issuance via loans from banks or cash from the mint

no one makes money in this fiat regulated system.

Thats where competition needs to be.

[Anonymous No.16167240]

>>16167186
>I sold a $1 item for $10, bought 10 of that item
please explain what this item was and how you sold it at a 1000% markup. very interested

[Anonymous No.16167243]

>>16167222
You're fucking retarded.

Op said he is being exploited. Work is a form of human capital. Stop being a lazy faggot, put your work into an item, convert it into a value-add item, sell item for that value add, reinvest. No outside capital needed. Fuck off with your cuck commie theories.

[Anonymous No.16167267]

>>16167223

Holy shit you're fucking retarded. If I buy a 1 dollar widget and sell it for $10 because someone wants it for $10, I provided a value that made me profit. The person who bought it paid $10 for the item to provide them what they wanted. Last I checked, that's 9 extra dollars in my fucking wallet i didnt have the day before.

Quit trying to make this some global-level currency value bullshit you fucking commie marx nigger. Business isn't about making the world a better place and hopefully making a profit. Business is about making a profit and potentially making the world a better place as a byproduct. Nothing to do with fiat, nothing to do with debt issuance. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.16167293]

>>16167223
>Update

Enjoy being a broke need with that autistic-ass understanding of market dynamics. Holy shit no wonder you depend on digital herbalife ((crypto))) currency to make any income.

Crypto-cucks need to hang.

[Anonymous No.16167306]

>>16166079
kek
>free

[Anonymous No.16167309]

>>16166530
>free market capitalism
>central banking, fiat currency and welfare for niggers and single moms
pick one, faggot

[Anonymous No.16167318]

>>16166088
>just stop working bro xD

[Anonymous No.16167334]

>>16167198
learn how scale works.
There are 100 million people in the middle class. there's less than 3 million that make $400k or more.
even if you tax them 10% 'more', there are 1/30th of them .
The middle class ends up paying 80% of the bill for the poor. They're worse off in every way.

[Anonymous No.16167335]

If I owned a company I would unironically enslave my workers too.
Fuck you wagies, that's my company, if something goes wrong, you could find another low paid job, if something goes wrong to me, I'm ruined.

So, you better work hard for that minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.16167376]

>>16167334
worse off in every way except, you know, they are actually paying less for their healthcare.

the losers are big pharma and insurance companies. they are the ones paying for this shit, as they should.

[Anonymous No.16167411]

>>16167376
where do you think insurance companies get their money from dumbass?
healthcare is expensive for many reasons, but one is because we treat the poor and mexicans who ditch the bill.
you're just formalizing MC paying for that with 4% more tax.
but ill never convince you, of course, you're the lower class wanting to steal. if the lower class isn't paying for it, someone else is.

[Anonymous No.16167418]

>>16167267
no, no you did not make money

you did not add 10$ to the money supply

$10 was transferred from one ledger to yours.

[Anonymous No.16167429]

>>16167267
you did provide value
you did reallocate a marker of value $'s.

However you did not create or make money.

[Anonymous No.16167454]

>>16167267
I am the opp to commie

I am saying you should be able to issue your own money, eg counterfeit if you can.

And send gov$ to zero if you can.

Eg force a gold standard so the marker can't be inflated and your work depreciated.

[Anonymous No.16167466]

>>16167240
I believe it was called a “larp”

[Anonymous No.16167510]

>>16167466
sold a larp?

i will hodl larp now