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16140317 No.16140317 [Reply] [Original]

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/krispy-kreme-cracks-down-on-guy-who-drove-500-miles-each-weekend-to-buy-donuts-and-sell-them-for-17-box

who was in the wrong here?

>> No.16140327

obviously not the guy

>> No.16140339

do they even have legal authority to stop him from selling them? he bought them, so now he owns them. aw what am i saying, MONEY is "legal authority" in this country.

>> No.16140369

>>16140317
Krispy kremes are best when fresh and hot. Who would buy old stale donuts for $17-$20 a box?

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>>16140339
they shouldn't be able to stop him from doing whatever with the donuts he already bought, but they should certainly be able to refuse to sell to him in the future, as should any party be able to choose not to engage with another party in trade

>> No.16140372

>>16140339

Apparently their lawyers think so

>> No.16140383

>>16140317
How did they even find out?
>I just have a big doughnut party every weekend! Thanks Krispy Kreme (tm)!

>> No.16140388

>>16140339
Nope. If you actually read the EULA fine prints in the receipt it explicitly says that you never own the donuts you buy

>> No.16140391

>>16140370
That's illegal, but I agree.

>> No.16140399

>>16140383
>How did they even find out?
Read the article. The news reported on his money making scheme. Then krispy kreme contacted him and told him to stop.

>> No.16140407

why would they want him to stop? he's buying literally hundreds of donuts each visit? HE'S GIVING THEM MONEY HELLO

>> No.16140408

>>16140388
Yep. You only agree to a consumption contract for the disposal of the donuts exclusive of their resale.

>> No.16140419

>>16140383
Apparently he was spreading the news on Facebook

>> No.16140429

>>16140388
>not even after you shit them

Holy shit, anon. You're right! It was written there all along!

>> No.16140430

how much did he make?

>> No.16140440

Technically, some products cannot be resold in retail, esp. brand products

>> No.16140446

>>16140317
i can smell the jealous boomer from here

>> No.16140447

>CRACKS DOWN
All Krismpy Kreme can do is stop selling their donuts to the guy.
The board of health on the other hand....

>> No.16140448

>>16140388
You only own a non-transferable license to eat, or fuck, the doughnuts.
>>16140399
Why would he tell anyone about his paid, invite only, KK parties?
>>16140419
What a retard
>>16140407
BUT HOW DARE HE MAKE MONEY OFF ME?! IM THE GOD OF THE DOUGHNUT RACKET, YOU ARE A SUBJECT! REEEEE

>> No.16140466

>>16140430

Based on what’s in the article $500-$700-wk minus travel expenses

>> No.16140469

It's really about protecting people from getting cold donuts. Heroes, all.

>> No.16140488

>>16140388
that's only in regards to the marketing.
It never holds up in court.
The only thing they can do is refuse to sell to him, but he can just hire a kid to purchase them from different locations.

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>bankrupts you for not having a doughnut transmitter license

>> No.16140514

Fuck I guess it's time to gun down all hotdog cart vendors. All they are doing is heating them up, many are safe to eat without cooking them again. All this man is doing is cooling them off.

>> No.16140536

>>16140339
This is freedom in america

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>>16140317
Oi you got your donut selling loicense?

>> No.16140576

I suppose it would depend on whether he is commercially resellling doughnuts or 'krispy kreme ™' doughnuts.

As the unapproved operation would risk contamination of the product and reselling These could damage the brand image

>> No.16140594

>>16140372
You can't dictate the terms of service as a customer or even the method of use.

The name of the product
Its proper use and purpose
And the type of misuse they ban
All are within the rights of the seller. Don't get mad. Stop buying shit you don't need and start your own business.

>> No.16140620

>>16140536
Where one is ruled by jews freedom becomes an empty dream.

>> No.16140624

>>16140594

Found the boomer

>> No.16140654

BUT DID HE STOP OR NOT

>> No.16140658

>>16140536
capitalism is dead here

>> No.16140661

AND HOW DID IT END, THIS IS THE WORST CLIFFHANGER SINCE

>> No.16140670
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So he was right...

>> No.16140679

>>16140317
If someone did this for my store I would love them. Guaranteed sales.

>> No.16140682

>>16140388
Lol better return them in the same donut box once you're done digesting

>> No.16140685

>>16140661
SINCE WHE

>> No.16140702

>>16140317
reason they’re gonna stop selling him donuts is that they have their own fundraising operation which they take a cut from, also if he sells a bad box, they’re on the hook.

The problem is that he can easily just get some other shmuck to get him the donuts and keep it low key this time

>> No.16140717

>>16140702
if some retard buys a shitty box from a random dude that's their problem not KK's

>> No.16140730

Why don't they have stores in Minnesota? Do they hate it? Nobody can hate Minnesota, can they?

>> No.16140732

>>16140369
You can just reheat them in the microwave, theyre not as good but theyre still better than every other donut

>> No.16140733

A box costs 8 bucks. If he's selling them for 17 that's 9 dollars in profit per box. It says he bought 100 per trip, so that's 900 per trip minus gas, which would have run him around $50 for the trip. He did this 19 times already, so that's just a little over 16k that he's made in profit off of this scheme.

This kid is more /biz/ than 99% of /biz/.

>> No.16140743

>>16140408
>consumption contract
you think Sergey will integrate this into LINK for use with bigmacs?

>> No.16140751

>>16140624
I'm 28 and own my own small business.

Why should I sell you all or even any of my product and deny the rest of the potential customers my product when you are abusing the product?

When you re-sell the product you take away the quality control protocols I have designed to maintain my output as well as my reputation as a businessman. What's stopping you from selling my products under my name and then leaving me to answer for and be responsible to the customers for your fuck ups?

Ex : I always sell donuts in pristine prime condition using first in first out method to maintain quality control and also be on track to turn profit
You sell people moldy donuts when the good ones are sold out.
People stop buying donuts because they think the guys making and selling donuts don't know how to keep their customers safe.
I lose my business or its prospects atleast.
You move on to selling another product you aren't investing your reputation or legal liability into.

>> No.16140755

Smart enough to carry this scheme but not enough to keep his mouth shut.

>> No.16140759

>>16140730
Too many niggers in MN.

>> No.16140768

>>16140751
Why the fuck would anyone care about that when you don't sell in a particular place? Apparently consumers want your product and you're too lazy/dumb to offer them, so someone else acts as an intermediary and re-sells them.

>> No.16140777

>>16140317
HUSTLER
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L
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>> No.16140779

>>16140751
Nobody cares about your used dildo business

>> No.16140790

>>16140317
>someone unironically pays 17 dollars for this absolute bottom of the barrel shit

>> No.16140799

>>16140407
They could be trying to create artificial scarcity so they can jack up the price.

>> No.16140800

>>16140768
Its my product. I choose the name of the product, the price, the property intended use of it. If you don't agree to my terms of service you don't have a right to buy. It's very simple. How can people understand patents and copyright and trademarks but not understand the basics of selling something vs buying. You as a customer have no lasting legal right to decide anything other then whether you want to buy it or not. Seriously

>> No.16140802

>>16140751
>What's stopping you from selling my products under my name and then leaving me to answer for and be responsible to the customers for your fuck ups?
Just this single line makes it known your post is a fantasy. Anybody with a real business loves guaranteed sales, UNLESS its a fake product that they're selling, but branding as yours. Also
>reddit spacing

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>>16140369
burgers dont give a FUCK. They literally sell boxes of krispy kreme in walmart and it's like the highlight of the bakery section, always selling out

>> No.16140821

>>16140317
>finds inefficiency in the market
>exploits it
>everybody loses their minds

>> No.16140834

>>16140802
You sound like a child. Everyone wants more sales but never with increasing liabilities

>> No.16140877

>>16140834
I would post my amazon account but I dont want to make you cry. List the potential liabilities.

>> No.16140906

>>16140317
explain to me why a company wouldn't want to sell more of something regardless of what the purchaser is doing with it. Was he rebranding them?

>> No.16140910

>>16140802
Example.
You sell flutes for musical use.

Some asshole decides your flutes would be a great sex toy

You sell most of your flutes to this guy not knowing he is selling them at gay bars the world over and popularizing your name brand and image in a way you never imagined not appreciate.

Is this prefect normal? Does the flute manufacturer have a right to get angry when his musical purpose sales crater and now his workers are literally making sex toys unknowingly? People who want to recognise you for selling instruments need to be corrected?

You change your company name from INSTRUMENTS-R-US to gay-flutes?

Your son at college tells his peers how you put food on the table and they look at him the same way right? No difference right?

Business owners have a right to decide their product and its use as well as its misuse. Without it there are too many problems

>> No.16140914

>>16140564
Based Ozanon

>> No.16140921

Theres a restuarant in Long Beach,CA that buys popeyes fried chx and serves them with walffles. People complain on yep but they dont care and they are making money

>> No.16140989

>>16140910
You could have just wrote "Brand dilution" instead of that wall of text, and I'm being polite here.

There are REAL liabilities, and I CAN list them for you:
1. Improper storage of products, which can be dangerous to the end customer if a product is a consumable.
2. Damage of products in transfer pushing up your warranty claims/ negative reviews.
3. Potential for the unapproved distributor to mix in fakes with the real products.

Even taking these into account, 99.99% of products sold are sold through distributors, often multiple layers of them.

>> No.16141029

>>16140989
Right but distributors have a mountain of liability disincentivising breaking the contract they have signed with a manufacturer compared to a unknown stranger you sell something to. You don't even know where to find the stranger.

Come on. Have you ever done anything other then go to school or wage cuck? If you think business functions on trust and handshakes rather then incentivized contracts and liabilities you are utterly fucked.

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16141034

how is there allegedly labor shortage everywhere yet the wages remain stagnant?

how does that work exactly?

>> No.16141043 [DELETED] 

>>16141034
crooks

>> No.16141070

>>16140989
>I learned big words in school so I must be smart

They might call it brand dilution now but its been happening long before they had a word for it. So sad how people limit themselves to those they rely on for knowledge. Use your experience and common sense. Words and narrative are a joke. This isn't college where reality takes a second class ticket. You're so caught up in listing words and terms even though they change all the time.

>> No.16141281

Where does he sell em that he can charge 17 dollars. Fucking amerimuts.

>> No.16141317

>>16140751
Fuck off pussy. Fags like you try to play lawyer with your stupid ideas, your dragon dildo business is only a hobby you gaping ass cunt

>> No.16141338

>>16141317
Lol why are you taking it personally. Omg I apologise kek I don't want you to be angry because of me

>> No.16141344

>>16140370
because hes reselling them with krispy kreme logo, old and stale they make the brand look bad i suppose. he should just sell as generic and hope for repeat customers of his "mystery 'nuts"

>> No.16141353

>>16140620
blame your grandfathers

>> No.16141382

>>16140317
>finds a loophole in capitalism
>immediately brags about it on social media
>loophole gets closed
stupid people don't deserve to make it.

>> No.16141390

>>16141317

Based

>> No.16141407

>>16141382
>buy 10 chocolate bars at the closest store
>take them with me to school and sell them for a slight markup
>this is considered a loophole
holy fucking backwards fucking shitplace

>> No.16141444

>>16141407
are you retarded? if your buying retail candy bars your already buying at a markup. you can already buy in bulk and sell at your own markup you idiot.

this has nothing to do with krispie kreme fucking up and creating a loophole/profit leak.

>> No.16141508

>>16141444
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS A FUCKING LOOPHOLE YOU FUCKING TURBONIGGER?

>go to mcdonalds in recess
>bring back 20 cheese burgers
>sell them to fellow students for a markup
??????????????????????????????????
anything i fucking use my own money to buy, i can sell to whoever the fuck i want for whatever fucking money that I DEMAND. If they are willing to pay a markup for an old cheeseburger, then how the fuck is that a loophole?

>> No.16141521

>>16141444
no way this retard is real

>> No.16141534

>>16140339
He is using their exact, copyrighted recipe and selling it as his own.

>> No.16141540

>>16141508
blup blup bluh blip blup blup

get the fuck outta here you stupid fuck.

>> No.16141542

>>16140733
The transport cost is more than gas. IRS puts it at average 58 cents per mile when you also consider oil, tires, insurance and depreciation. Article says it was 540 miles round trip which is $313 expected mileage cost. It will be more like $600 per run when the beating put on the car catches up to him. Still not bad if he could do so in 8-10 hours of work.

>> No.16141548

>>16140751
oh shit a copypasta

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>>16140751
I'm 38 and own my own small business.

Why should I sell you all or even any of my product and deny the rest of the potential customers my product when you are abusing the product?

When you re-sell the product you take away the quality control protocols I have designed to maintain my output as well as my reputation as a businessman. What's stopping you from selling my products under my name and then leaving me to answer for and be responsible to the customers for your fuck ups?

Ex : I always sell the items needed to make dough in pristine prime condition using first in first out method to maintain quality control and also be on track to turn profit
You sell people moldy donuts from old dough when the good ones are sold out.
People stop buying donuts because they think the guys making and selling dough donuts don't know how to keep their customers safe.
I lose my business or its prospects atleast because of my dough.
You move on to selling another product you aren't investing your reputation or legal liability into.

>> No.16141582

>>16141540
yep can't refute that you fucktard, go sip some soi

>> No.16141592

>>16140407
honestly what kind of retarded manager doesn't immediately give this guy a fucking sales right? Buy him a goddamned truck you fucking idiots you got a once in a lifetime salesman right under your fucking noses

>> No.16141631

ITT: Another thread where middling IQ people learn that freedom doesn't actually exist.

>> No.16141745

>>16140317
>Not offering him free transportation if he can scale up his sales
Why? Why tell him to stop selling donuts for you? What the fuck do you care about his mark-up?

>> No.16141763

>>16140339
reminder that ideas are what is protected under copyright, not physical products. the issue is not that he is selling donuts but selling Krispy Kreme donoughts. of which he owns the donughts but not krispy creme donots .

>> No.16141807

>>16141763
But he is selling donuts from Krispy Kreme.. so why can't he state that?
They are not regular homemade donuts
He is just specifying what product it is

>> No.16141894

>>16140369
You act like some of us have a choice. I have to get Krispy Kreme imported ;_;

>> No.16141909

>>16141534
>He is using their exact, copyrighted recipe and selling it as his own.
Recipes should not be able to be copyrighted. That is Jewish. (Literally, Jews are the reason modern copyright law exists)

>> No.16141914

>>16140339
You can refuse service for whatever reason you want except if it's because ur gay or too old or female or disabled.

>> No.16141932

>>16140317
>>16140369
>>16140732

fuck me /biz/
i just spent an hour to find an open krispy kreme to try their donuts and they were amazing
i gave up on donut chains after trying dunkin donuts and it sucking badly

the power of this board is insane
is op the ceo of krispy kremes?

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>>16140446

>> No.16141962

>>16141344
>"mystery 'nuts"
That's what I call my homemade nutbutter that I sell on the side

>> No.16141977

>>16141932
kek perhaps the reselling guy is a /biz/raeli and this is his marketing campaign

>> No.16142002

>>16140317
he should have another guy buy them and another guy selling them
those guys only transfer/sell boxes

are they going to individually sue 3 people?

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>>16140317
camp 1
>I bought, I can resell now
camp 2
>I bought, I own, I pay tax from my profit
camp3
>You bought my product, you resell my product with my name without my consent
camp 4
>I bought, I own, but don't have sanitary licence to transport them and sell, nobody can guarantee I didn't contaminate them
>I had to take consideration, if someone gets sick it's my fault, thus I broke the law, I should have had the sanitary license to sell food products. Sorry, Judge, I'm guilty. I'm very sorry... (burst into tears)
Last two lines is what will happen.
You can discuss this story for next 8000 post, but it will comedown to those last two lines.
Prove me wrong.

>> No.16142038

>>16141344
>'Excuse me sir, what are you selling?'
>'My mystery nuts'
>'Ok...I'm officer Smith with the Vice Squad
Unit...place your hands where I can see them, you're under arrest for solicitation of sex'

>> No.16142049

>>16140317
>who was in the wrong here?
he got caught, so it's his fault

>>16142030
/thread

>> No.16142123

>>16140327
Why is /biz/ full of niggers like you

>> No.16142177 [DELETED] 

>>16140777
N I G G E R
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>> No.16142197

>>16141909
Last week I patented my new beverage! 2 parts hydrogen 1 part oxygen!
I'll sue anyone trying to make money off MY new drink

>> No.16142305

>>16141338
You are young and naive.

>> No.16142325

>>16140800
>It's my product
>terms of service
So is it a product or a fucking service, dumbass?

>> No.16142351

>>16140339
Probably conducting a business without a franchise agreement, depending on volume of sales.

>> No.16142400

>>16140751

You're assuming a 3rd party couldn't come and provide value added services as well.

In the case of food sanitation and what not I agree there's a risk but to assume everyone think it is you calling the shots for this is ridiculous. You'd have more of a leg if he claimed he was you and they'd have an argument that by not identifying himself as a reseller.

Ultimately, their lawyer wrote a super long, serious accusation later to the college kid that accuse them of every single thing they can imagine. Everyone's going to tell him to drop the case because they have more money than he does and they'll spend it to run his account dry.

>> No.16142467

>>16142197
You can't copyright something you didn't create.

If you made it 2 parts hydrogen with 4 parts hydrogen sulfide and 1 part carbon to create a new bendable steel, then you could probably claim copyright.

>> No.16142474

>>16140910

Now you're making terrible arguments.

>>16141763

In regards to the first sale doctrine the copyright you're talking about is protected in the sense that someone can't open up a shop and claim they're selling Krispy Kreme donuts and they use logos, marketing materials, etc to misrepresent themselves as the brand.

In a lot of cases, someone buying a genuine copy of something has the means to resell it under certain stipulations. If there is a warranty then there is very likely language in that warranty that voids it if the product you purchase was not made by an authorized distributor or the manufacturer themselves. Thus you have the 'used open box' type of businesses that sell these products that likely include a note that the product does not carry the manufacturer warranty when you purchase from them.

In regards to food there's probably some law, citation, etc. that the guy is probably in violation of anyways, but if their attorneys tell you they're going to pursue you for many claims full of legalese accusations no matter how ridiculous then he would be wise to just cease everything. Even if he was by every means legally in the right why would he want to defend himself for a business of transporting and reselling donuts?

>> No.16142484

>>16141070
Are you sure you’re only 28? You sound like the most booming boomer who ever boomed. What is your business anyway? Why the fuck are you so worried someone is going to resell your bottles of premixed veterinary lubricant?

>> No.16142684

>>16140317
Why don't KK drive 500 miles and sell them for $15 a box and take his profit?

>> No.16142761

>>16142467
And if it cures cancer I'd make sure only the richest have access

>> No.16142822

>>16142684
imagine the news, KK demanding three times the price elsewhere

>> No.16142985

>>16140448
>What a retard
Why? Is it somehow illegal to resell donuts.

>> No.16143006

>>16140576
>I suppose it would depend on whether he is commercially resellling doughnuts or 'krispy kreme ™' doughnuts.

No, it depends if he is saying he IS krispy kreme or not. If he is reselling them and not saying he is krispy kreme but stating the donuts are there is no problem. Even if the boxes have "Not for individual resale" on them, this is not likely something that can be enforced.

>> No.16143042

>>16140370
>you will never be able to open a diner for whites only with exclusively pretty white girl waiters

>> No.16143087

>>16141807
This. Can I sell my used bike on craigslist as a Norco XYZ or do I have to omit all the branding. You guys are so fucked over there.

>> No.16143105

>>16142030
>Last two lines is what will happen.
Yet the last two lines is not why KK went after him.

>> No.16143117

>>16140834
How the fuck are you liable for a sale you did not partake in. You are no longer liable for the sale the moment he leaves the store.

>> No.16143139

he should just get a loan and buy a franchise if they are so sought after.

>> No.16143172

>>16140388
This but unironically. These agreements are everywhere.

>> No.16143199

>>16141567
gee I dunno maybe customers are buying it out of the back of a fucking truck from some guy and not in a branded store they might put 2 and 2 together and realize quality might have suffered, you fucking braindead shiteatting retard

>> No.16143201

>>16140317
>krispy kreme sends a C&D to the guy instead of opening a franchise with the guy
it's like companies WANT to lose potential revenue.

>> No.16143212

>>16141534
Can someone just copyright copyrighting already and then release it under GPL?

>> No.16143281

I’m going to buy a Kristen kreme donut, shit it out, then mail it back to them since apparently I never owned it even though I paid for it

FUCK KIKES
FUCK BOOMERS

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>>16140317
>Discovered lucrative money making scheme
>Couldn't stop yapping about it

Brought it on himself, t.b.h.

>> No.16143350

>>16140751

KIKES GET THE GAS
TRAITORS GET THE ROPE
BOOMERS GET THE PILLOW

>> No.16143386

>>16142985
Path of least resistance

Easy fix, slap a not for consumption sticker on it. You said not to eat it, but they do anyway.

>> No.16143459

>>16140799
THIS
I lived in a small town with a mom and pop donuts shop, their hand made stuff was on another level. It was popular a late night hub spot for cool teens. Only fresh doughnuts in the small rural town.

Local Walmart opened a new bakery department and started selling donuts at massively lower prices, so low I was having a hard time understanding how they made money. Then they unofficially partnered with one of those delivery door to door delivery groups so anyone could get super cheap fresh donuts anywhere anytime for less then half of what the old local shop sold them at.

After a year the local shop died, someone bought the shop and it got tron down. A week after demolition Walmart jacked their prices higher than the shop use to have and the delivery group started charging more for their doughnut delivery fee as well.

>> No.16143522

>>16142325
God people are stupid lol don't reproduce

>> No.16143573

>>16140317
Who the hell runs Krispy Kreme? This is a chance at some free marketing.

>> No.16143595

>>16142400
I agree with you but nowadays every corporation is cut throat with market share and just plain reputation. People lose jobs for almost nothing. You can't ignore the fine print and there is a basic fine print when it comes to buying something. If Nike wanted to kill the legal resell market and force it all underground all it would take is a change to their terms of doing business. They can sue anyone trying to resell IF they wanted and they reserve that right to apply in the future. Music was treated like a free toy for an entire generation with limewire and now things have changed. Every single product or service is malleable and open to change because society changes and what the business goes thru changes along with market needs. The product you have should not be taken for granted just because you think so. I'm not saying it is a wise choice to always crack down on people reselling or otherwise providing your product like video games or clothing or software. You don't want to alienate your clients but in the case of food you don't want them receiving something adulterated and you being hurt by that in the end.

>> No.16143604

>>16143459
This kind of shit makes me want to pull a Sandy Hook

>> No.16143620

>>16143604
the town didn't value the local shop enough to be loyal customers and now they pay the price of shitty overpriced doughnuts

>> No.16143623

>>16143573
Give the man a fucking job to test for intrest in select areas

>> No.16143638

>>16143620
Humans in general destroy that which they rely on most. We are a sad species

>> No.16143641

>>16142123
why are you a bootlicker

>> No.16143655

>>16143620
No they were simply too dumb to realize that this the consequence of their Doughnut greed. They're basically saying, "yes corporate overlards please exploit me!"

>> No.16143660

>>16143638
it's a problem I think about all the time
how do you beat the efficiency of markets of scale
because when these corporations win you lose for good
how would a town know the economics of supporting locals over chink shit or big box store products knowing it's more expensive but that money gets recirculated in their local economy

>> No.16143670

>>16143655
I wonder if a new doughnut shop can start with local support, or if most people just don't care

>> No.16143689

>>16143670
They would need to beat Walmart now, or brand themselves as a particularly quality Doughnut

>> No.16143695

>>16140383
I'm sure it's from him opening his big mouth, had he not, he'd probably still be in bizness

>> No.16143705

>>16143695
This is damn near Florida man tier

>> No.16143709

>>16143689
it's a shame a local spot was destroyed by lazy consumers and corporate greed

>> No.16143752

Can I ubereats donuts 500miles? Does an ubereats driver need any sort of qualifications for food handling for the donuts to be "safe" on arrival?

>> No.16143769

>>16140799
Thread should have ended here. There's a reason that every chain that is financially capable of doing what McDonald's and Starbucks do with regards to location numbers dont actually go ahead and do it.

>> No.16143776

>>16143709
I hate big /biz/ aside from maybe automobiles I guess
>>16143752
Youd be lucky if they weren't all half eaten by the time they got there

>> No.16143793

>>16143705
Do not agree. No gators, meth or self-endangerment took place.

>> No.16143819

>>16143793
How can you be so sure? How do you know he didnt have a meth gator guarding the doughnuts?

>> No.16143856

>>16143595

There's a lot of gray areas without precedence in some cases.

Ultimately, I think those that want to stay around for the long term find ways to make their business a value add as a distributor/reseller. In some cases, like the Nike shoes, the market they've created almost reinforces their long term business because people transact in 'Nike'.

I also like to think of brands like Supreme, where they kind of purposely sell out. The resellers pulling in double, triple, etc. of whatever they paid for are only reaffirming the value of the brand.

There has been a lot of research recently into Apple and Amazon. Apple basically got an exclusivity agreement with Amazon where Amazon would only let you list an Apple product if you were an approved Apple vendor, had the documentation, etc.

In the case of a marketplace like Amazon, the argument that is made that because 1 in 2 sales online goes through Amazon, that it is practically the open marketplace of e-commerce and that the exclusivity agreements may present anti-trust.

It's a lot different than the food/donut examples but there's a lot of argument over what rights a buyer, manufacturer, and reseller/distributor have.

>> No.16143857

>>16140717
no, if it is plastered with Krispy Kreme logos everywhere and someone gets a bad donut who do you think is gonna take the blame?

>> No.16143861

>>16141914
nah you should definitely refuse service to faggots (because they are also all pedophiles) but the elderly and women and the disabled are fine because they are normal

>> No.16143880

>>16140317
Krispy Kreme is fucking stupid, way to blow guaranteed business

>> No.16143941

>>16140751
You realize he drove 500 MILES right?

also
>Why should I sell you all or even any of my product and deny the rest of the potential customers my product when you are abusing the product?
You shouldn't it's called right to refuse service, which is your right, but it's also the customers right to use the product he paid for they way he wants. If I buy a gun and kill someone that doesn't make the gun maker evil.

You are a greedy stupid fuck

>> No.16143955

>>16143459
Here they'd be taken to court and probably fined for anticompetitive behaviour if they tried that. Was any attempt made to do likewise there?

The perception here is that your anti trust laws do too much to prevent the formation of monopolies, but not enough to prevent the abuse of monopolies.

>> No.16144031

>>16140370
This. Based and red pilled.

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>>16140751
>another kike...

>> No.16144058

>>16143620
To be fair the town's people ran a fundraiser to completely subsidized the shop for several months past what should have bankrupted it, because a group of people loved it. But everyone including the owner eventually saw it as unsustainable as everyone was too poor and it wasn't a unified effort.
Seeing him every few weeks over the year was disturbing as the extra work they put in and stress was visibly killing them, like those before and after president pictures but with another layer of Photoshop as I think they decided not to die with the shop.

>>16143660 and also kind of >>16143655
most didn't, a high school graduation was a big deal given the demographics
But I see it more as poor education and knowledge, not stupidity as they got some clever folks. And they did figure out they didn't want the shop to die, some just didn't get the connections or were too poor. Extreme poverty was likely a big factor here as many a significant minority I talked with wanted the shop to live but admitted to buying Walmart so they could afford other things. (A rate raise by the only internet service was a big deal at the time)
If you find the answer let me know, or if you want to hear my ramblings on the matter as it is something that keeps me up some nights.

>>16143670
>>16143689
general consensus was no
the shop owners had been doing it for around 40 years and were masters both at their craft and running a biz (kind of had to be good at biz given I was surprise such a poor small town could have a dedicated donuts shop at all). I haven't found doughnuts of that quality anywhere else. A new shop could only depress prices till one faction runs out of funding. And technically you could say the town ran out of money as they completely paid for the local shop for several months through donations and fundraising. Kind of wonder how many years it will take Walmart to recoup the cost they sunk in their attack?

>> No.16144127

>>16140317
I expect KK will open a shop in the Twin Cities soon.

Thanks to Homer Simpson, Krispy Kreme became very popular down under. But for years they had no shop in Adelaide. There was a similar local brand called Gourmet Glaze, but still a lot of people flying back from Melbourne (a similar distance away) brought back boxes of KK.

And when KK did start selling its products in Adelaide, there were initially huge queues. The initial excitement's worn off now, but they still sell quite well.

>> No.16144140

>>16144058
Jesus, this is incredibly sad. I am very sorry for your loss. I take back what I said about the stupid people thing. When are we going to abolish Walmart?

>> No.16144186

>>16143857
Why shouldn't the maker get blamed?

Unless you think he's going to poison his customers

>> No.16144214

>>16143955
I don't think so. Local culture was very big on folks sorting things out themselves, didn't trust layers.
Also if my rental experience there was any indication I don't think they could. Housing company broke contract so I was going to take proper legal action. Found that the company owned 90% of rentals in area, and was always open to buying the last bits, and no lawyer in the area would take the case as they had all gotten yearly gifts from them just a few dollars over the conflict on interest threshold amount, so they refused. Did find lawyers out of area that would if I paid for their time and travel expenses which came to several times the amount in dispute.
Those tiny area legal firms probably wouldn't be willing to take on Walmart, if they abandon me for a nice holiday fruit basket.

>> No.16144240

>>16143350

DAY OF THE PILLOW NOW

>> No.16144247

why tough? whats wrong with reselling something you bought legally, and he didnt even get a discount baka

>> No.16144334

I actually have a friend who does this, except he resells them in Mexico (I live in a border city) he comes everyday buys tons of donuts and takes them back to Mexico for reselling. He makes good money. I guess he is safe I dont think they will bother going after someone that is another country.

>> No.16144339

>>16144140
Given how rarely I eat donuts it had little impact on me, although I did go there more just out of principal of support local biz. Plus I was only there 3 years for work reasons so I never felt like a local.
But I am glad you understand and took back that stupid people thing.

Also you are starting to think about the bigger questions. Although Walmart will abolish itself. There is a growing trend of Walmart pulling out of these small towns as they don't make them money like they use to there. It has devastated them as a major employer and service provider that replaced the older shops suddenly pulls out for more profitable prospects. But it is not Walmart specifically that is the problem, but the role Walmart fills in the modern market structure. Think bigger and you will get what I'm saying.

>> No.16144687

>>16140388
To think a Mitch Headberg joke came to life.

>> No.16144884

>>16140369

Nigger they export these to Europe nowadays

>> No.16144899

>>16140317

Sounds like a good place to open a store, you get the manager for free

>> No.16144923

So what. You find your scam, you milk it til you can't anymore, you move on. If you can't get that concept then you get fucked. Adapt and overcome, no tears only dreams now

>> No.16144936

>>16140910

Just another commie crying to big daddy government to stop the mean kids

>> No.16144946

It's a good idea from a risk perspective.