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Steve Shadders, the main developer for BSV at nChain, is embroiled in a back and forth war of words with Ari Kuqi, the developer of CashPay wallet, and leading proponent of SPV protocol for BSV.

The dispute is centered around the need to use SPV for BSV apps across the board, with Ari arguing that it's absolutely necessary, whereas Shadders doesn't seem to agree. What do BSVers make of this? I see it as healthy capitalist competition. Who do you think will ultimately come out on top?

>> No.16096989

who?

>> No.16096998

i am on top and i will come

>> No.16096999

Ari is autistic and toxic but generally wants what's best for Bitcoin

Handcash is still a great wallet and centralized SPV is not a huge compromise for the average user

>> No.16097011

>>16096999
You mean what's best for Bitcoin SV

>> No.16097035

>ITT: literal nobodies general

>> No.16097050

>>16096984
>we must move to SPV because craigs loading gigs of worthless junk into blockchain daily and so all nodes must be centralized
"a decentralized currency discussion"

>> No.16097052

Shadders' main job at nChain is pretty simple, and it is to fork (steal) Satoshi's wallets when the time comes.

>> No.16097055

>>16096984
The dispute is centered around that Ari is a total shithead who is throwing shit at everyone else and fudding their products to promote his own products. Shadders is not against SPV, he is the main developer in BSV working on SPV. Craig always stressed the importance of SPV, and Shadders is the one leading Craigs code team to make SPV better. Now get lost, this is low level fud

>> No.16097059

>>16097050
kek this

>> No.16097063

>>16097055
imagine creg thinking that he can mine invalid blocks in sv to claim the real satoshis coins and somehow that will give him credibility. so sad.

>> No.16097067

>real bitcoin
>centralised
Pick only one

>> No.16097083

>>16097055
The fact that Shadders is absolutely loyal to CSW while knowing without a doubt that he's a dishonest scammer is a red flag.

>> No.16097085

>>16097052
Is this the new Bilderberg/Blockstream narrative cope for when he signs?

>> No.16097118

cool infights. bodes well for a project

>> No.16097125

>>16097085
here's your plan creg:
"the judge made me do it"

>> No.16097134

>>16097085
Just in the same way as he registered the bitcoin domain?

http://whois.domaintools.com/b1tc01n.co

>> No.16097146

>>16097134
>b1tc01n.co
>Created on 2013-10-04
lol

>> No.16097157

>>16096999
Can you explain how spv is centralized? I thought it was actually less centralized since it means no reliance on middlemen servers with a single point of failure?

>> No.16097216

>>16097157
in a real decentralized system, all nodes have a full copy of blockchain, so rewriting history / accepting invalid blocks / etc is not possible.
SPV is basically where nodes only have headers, not full blockchain. the result is only a few copies of actual blockchain exist which allows for unlimited fuckery. If the makers of the federal reserve invented a decentralized crypto coin, it would look like bsv. easily confused tards would think it was decentralized when he fact it was 100% centralized

>> No.16097292

>>16096984
SPV is old tech and high maintenance for devs which is a major struggle for integration: you can't just develop a service or an app, you have to run a node too.

Things like Nimiq (working) or Coda (in dev) are already using browser nodes and reach consensus with the chain through WebRTC and Websocket.

>> No.16097303

>>16096984
>itt totally not a simulated discussion to lure newfags into a scam

>> No.16097733

>>16097292
moar

>> No.16097770

>>16097052
That would instantly kill BSV, it would fork yet again.

>> No.16097789

>>16097083

Or maybe he knows something you dont

>>16097216

Imagine thinking this small

Big blocks will be more decentralized and secure because miners will have to specialize and parallelize each part of the process. Some miners will just hash, others will build merkle trees and some will propagate blocks.

This should be very exciting to you if you're a capitalist.

>> No.16097814

>>16097789
how r those miners incentivised?

>> No.16097816

>>16097770
>it would fork yet again
sorry, no one actually uses bsv for anything, there would be no pressure to fork. it is a 100% calvin controlled money laundering fueled leverage machine.

>> No.16097828

>>16097814

Profit is the only "incentive" here

Greed is how Bitcoin scales

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>>16097828
>promotes centralized coin 100% controlled by nchain / calvin
>says free market is at work
pic related

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16097884

>>16097834

nChain is literally 10 years ahead of everyone else. You'll understand this eventually, and it will haunt you for the rest of your days

>> No.16097905

>>16097884
>tranny with an excel spreadsheet full of linear projections in a quadratic market
you didnt make it