Valve dragged to the French Court

[Anonymous No.15972070]

Biggest reason why Valve got dragged to court is due to consumers not being able to resell their games. So unlike a physical copy of the game you can't sell your digital copy.

High court of Paris ruled against Valve, they have to change their policies or face a fine.

This shows that Ultra is ahead of its competitors. With more people being aware that you don't actually own your digital copy of a game we can expect Ultra to be favoured by more people if the industry doesn't adjust to the changing industry standard.
Source: https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/valve-french-court-case/

[Anonymous No.15972106]

What an awful argument, digital and physical are two different things. I can frisbee a physical disc, is it now Steam's responsibility to send me a frisbee if I buy a digital game? Apparently I'm entitled to it

[Anonymous No.15972116]

>>15972070
I stopped using steam in 2013, time flies. Their summer sales were good once, 90% off etc, flash sales every few hours. Then they took all that away, too many retards bitching about not being able to buy the flash sales, so they got rid of them, made sales go on all week and theyre only 30% off. Yay, equality and communism. I quit gaming entirely, likely because of Steam being such Jews. Congrats, Im sure that was their intention, make people stop buying games entirely.

[Anonymous No.15972125]

>>15972116
? if you don't play video games, what do you even do with your life?

[Anonymous No.15972138]

>>15972106
wtf lol
>>15972070
>unique selling point is now ruined and this is somehow bullish
you just lost your market

[Anonymous No.15972141]

>>15972125
only incels and sōyboys play video gaymes past the age of 14. get a fucking life you sad cunt.

[Anonymous No.15972145]

>>15972070
Good, fuck DRM. Long ultra short valve

[Anonymous No.15972146]

>>15972116
Good for you, you're not missing out on much either. Today you buy the 60% discounted game, and then there's like $150+ of DLC's to purchase along with it. The whole monetization is fucking garbage

[Anonymous No.15972248]

>>15972141
This.

[Anonymous No.15972487]

>>15972106
Retail prices are the same for the digital copy and physical copy of the games. The difference is that you can't sell your games on steam. Like you basically own the game by purchasing the copy why can't you resell it?

[Anonymous No.15972508]

>>15972487
>The difference is that you can't sell your games on steam. Like you basically own the game by purchasing the copy why can't you resell it?

so fucking what, you know that when you buy it, if you want to buy buy a game and re-sell it later don't buy it on steam

[Anonymous No.15972517]

>>15972138
You think Valve will implement it immediately? This could take years as they delay it because there is no incentive for them to change. With that Ultra is moving fast, once their product is finished we can see a lot of early adopters move away from steam. Furthermore, the reselling of games is just a small USP. There are a lot more reasons why developers and users would prefer Ultra. One of the reasons and my personal favourite is the use of NFT and blockchain to incorporate it into games. This can change the way you're playing your games.

[Anonymous No.15972525]

>>15972487
You can't resell most physical games either. The serial is tied to your account in perpetuity on Origin, EA, Activision-Blizzard, Nintendo, Microsoft etc etc. Even if you sell a disc, no one else can play it. It's not Steam's problem.

[Anonymous No.15972535]

>>15972517
GoG has no DRM and you can literally burn hundres of copies of your game and give them away for free.
Yet GoG can't compete with steam. What makes you think your useless shitcoin will be able to?

[Anonymous No.15972537]

I bought tons off games digital but never can sell it after gaming . I don’t mind buying 50-60$ for a game and resell for 30 after I am finished . I can make someone happy with it and I am happy with getting something back. Now I got like 100 games doing nothing . Ultra is offering these options , I am a big supporter of reselling games or buying 2nd hand

[Anonymous No.15972539]

>>15972508
Let's take an example of the game Remnant: From the Ashes. There is currently no other platform that lets me play the game and resell it afterwards. And most if not all PC's discarded the CD drive in favour of digital downloads. So tell me what platform can I go to? If Ultra was finished and live today I would prefer Ultra over steam but to be realistic Steam would have a bigger library of games in the beginning but without doubt Ultra would expand and also include exclusive titles.

[Anonymous No.15972546]

>>15972535
He is a blatant shill and talks out his ass.
Crypto will have no role in gaming

[Anonymous No.15972558]

>>15972539
>So tell me what platform can I go to?
nobody's forcing you to play the game if you don't like the rule of the only guy selling it you can go fuck yourself
fucking socialist

[Anonymous No.15972580]

>>15972535
GoG is just a centralized game distributer. Ultra is besides a game distributer also adding digital asset exchange like WAX and backing digital assets like Enjin. They also provide developers SDKs to work with. It's not comparable with GoG. Also because it's an EOS fork it needs trusted block producers. Two EOS block producers and Bitfinex are already disclosed and rumours are that Microsoft and Ubisoft are also joining the network.

[Anonymous No.15972596]

>>15972558
>ITS A PRIVATE COMPANY THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT
>#CANCELFACEBOOK
>#CANCELNYT

[Anonymous No.15972600]

>>15972546
Gaming and remittance are the most promising industries that can use blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies. Gamers are also familiar with digital assets and digital currencies making them move to cryptocurrencies takes almost no effort.

[Anonymous No.15972602]

>>15972580
> Ultra is besides a game distributer also adding digital asset exchange like WAX and backing digital assets like Enjin
Literally no one needs that. I wouldn't buy a single game from a place that forces me to jump through the crypto hoops.
Not even mentioning crypto being famous for being an unregulated haven for scams and the probability of my games being lost forever. Steam was there 10 years ago and will be there in 10 years and my games will be safu.

[Anonymous No.15972606]

>>15972600
>79's sales pitch after sales pitch
You know, your kind is damaging the products you are shilling more than it helps do to your inability to be subtle

[Anonymous No.15972612]

>>15972558
I'm all for a free-market economy and if there is a competitor with better services I rather use that service. I think you are just delusional and retarded to think that way.

[Anonymous No.15972621]

>>15972600
Whoever wrote your shilling guide didn't do a very good job at it. I can smell the curry from here. How much do they pay you?

[Anonymous No.15972628]

>>15972612
Does you employer know you are promoting their product to neo-nazis? I imaging it would be a shame if someone spammed pictures of dead kikes on Ultra's twitter.

[Anonymous No.15972636]

>>15972602
No need to jump through hoops if you ever read a glimpse of what the project does. It has a seamless fiat to crypto conversion. So whenever you purchase with USD it gets automatically converted to UOS, they buy the tokens from the open market thus also creating more demand on exchanges. You could unironically pay with both fiat and UOS, but if you are a dev and want to use services within the ecosystem you need UOS. Luckily the developers get their revenue immediately after each sale and can also easily withdraw the UOS to USD.

[Anonymous No.15972645]

>>15972628
How about forcing them to take a stand on the Hong Kong question?

[Anonymous No.15972701]

>>15972070
sock lay blue!

[Anonymous No.15972702]

>>15972606
If you have been following the market you might notice that the market is looking very favourable towards both gaming and remittance. So what OP said was actually not bad. Look at Binance for example, they have Tron which is focused on building infrastructure for decentralized gaming, WINK did a launchpad and is the Dapp for Tron gaming, Cocos Blockchain which is owned by CZ focusing on Gaming.

[Anonymous No.15972711]

>>15972070
You can't sell music you bought on iTunes either.

[Anonymous No.15972724]

>>15972525
>you can't resell nintendo games
ummmmm

[Anonymous No.15972817]

We know that Valve will be stalling this for ages, and reselling games is also a big NO from these fuckers. The shareholders would never allow something that might lower the revenue, and want to be the big bitch as long as possible.

This is where Ultra’s platform might have a chance to break the current view in the gaming industry and become one of the platforms where people will buy and sell their games.

[Anonymous No.15972936]

I don't see any reason you should be able to resell digital video games

[Anonymous No.15972960]

>>15972070
I explained this like 20 times already.
Valve is a company which needs to make huge profits. With allowing people to resell they would miss out on huge sellings. Of course they can take a fee when people resell but that would never be equal to selling games.
Ultra is on the right way on that one.
Hopefully there will be the beta next month so the first people will be able to try that platform and give some reviews about it.

[Anonymous No.15973338]

>>15972711
Stop, you're going to give them ideas for their next shitcoin scam

[Anonymous No.15973353]

French are fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.15973510]

>>15973338
Good Idea to resell music but that’s not the business of Ultra. Just focus on gaming. This is already a multibillion market . And a lot of the team has a gaming industry background

[Anonymous No.15973556]

>>15973510
If you really can't see why being able to resell digital game downloads, or digital downloads of any kind, is actually a bad idea, well, you should definitely buy lots and lots of UOS tokens

[Anonymous No.15973569]

>>15973556
(Hint: There's a reason companies dislike p2p filesharing, but have generally not taken an issue with physical aftermarkets for video games/music/etc. "Reselling digital games" is just p2p filesharing with money involved.)

[Anonymous No.15973670]

>>15973338
The music industry has players like Apple music and Spotify where you can stream music. Currently nothing big besides maybe Google Stadia that provides any games you could stream. In the meantime while my steam library keeps growing and the amount of lost money is also growing. It's a shame because so much lost potential.

[Anonymous No.15973687]

>>15973569
Traditional P2P file sharing doesn't give a percentage of the sold game to developers. You could create smart contracts to give a percentage of a sale to developers.

[Anonymous No.15973938]

>>15972146
Yep thats the sad part for the AAA title creators.
I hope so hard that Ultra will get good indiegame producers. And please no AAA because they will fuck up the games anyway: Go there, collect this destroy this, (Far Cry)
Ultra can stand for quality while steam and other shit stands for quantity (and dumb shit producers).

[Anonymous No.15974155]

>How is Ultra gonna get licensed games?

Well, they’ve been backed by Ubisoft, the third biggest game company in the world, since day one.

[Anonymous No.15974316]

>>15972621
>>15972628
Out of good arguments to attack the project? Looks like it, pathetic to now be resorting to these kinds of comments. Shows how low your IQ is.

[Anonymous No.15974348]

>>15973938
Triple A titles how bad their reputation might be for the purist gamer is still a great revenue stream. So it would be foolish not to include them.

[Anonymous No.15974528]

Any chance that UOS will get listed on another exchange soon? Bitfinex is really anal to use.

[Anonymous No.15974685]

>>15974528
They hinted that they’ll get on OKEx and Bitmax soon.

[Anonymous No.15974711]

>>15974528
They are working on bringing in more exchanges, they are currently focusing more on their traditional business development.

[Anonymous No.15974953]

>>15972070
Valve is a piece of shit project and this Gaben is the moneymilking machine. But that is not the fault of the company. It is the peoples fault because they are supporting that fatass. Get rekt Valve so other projects like Ultra and other gaming platforms can rise from the ground and taking marketshares from the people who might leave the fucked up Steam sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.15975622]

>>15972141
Smart people are playing games. Dumb people are:
Getting a 9-5 job
Getting a car
Getting a wife
Getting kids
Getting a house
Telling children to not learn what the father or mother learned to have a free life.
Fuck this. Other people telling you what to do and if you get weak you will change your personality.
I am a gamer 4 life and thats why I am digging so hard into the Ultra project. (And also holding the token)

[Anonymous No.15975675]

>>15975622
>I am a gamer 4 life
Cringe. But you ultra idiots need to fuck off. Even though valve barely makes games anymore, they still keep up with new technology like VR and such. What makes you think they aren't already researching behind the scenes how they can use blockchain? Not to mention ultra currently has 90 mill coins in circulation while having a huge ass 1 billion total supply kek. You guys are going to get dumped on.

[Anonymous No.15975932]

>>15975675
Why should the UOS team unload a huge amount of tokens on a pretty thing order book? That makes no sense for the team nor for the token buyers. Also, a big amount of tokens could be used as a circulating amount for exchange listings. You know Binance and other exchanges force you to give them a fixed supply and they don't have the intention to kill your project at the same time they are listing you.

[Anonymous No.15976019]

Simple solution pull out of the French market or give a gimped version of steam to the french

[Anonymous No.15976048]

>>15975932
>Why should the UOS team unload a huge amount of tokens on a pretty thing order book
They don't. They pay you shillers first to mass shill people into putting up buy orders and then dump on silently.

[Anonymous No.15976603]

>>15976048
So you think shillers are getting tokens and place buy orders ?!?!? and dump their own shilled tokens into their own buy walls !??!
Dude are you drunk? Do you understand the logic of a market?

[Anonymous No.15976657]

>>15972539
>And most if not all PC's discarded the CD drive in favour of digital downloads.
Why didn't you include a CD drive in your build if this is an issue for you? They're $20.

[Anonymous No.15976705]

>>15976603
Pajeet please.

[Anonymous No.15976719]

>>15972116
>Their summer sales were good once, 90% off etc, flash sales every few hours. Then they took all that away, too many retards bitching about not being able to buy the flash sales, so they got rid of them, made sales go on all week and theyre only 30% off.
Except they got rid of the sales because they implemented refunds.

[Anonymous No.15976753]

>>15972525
you made that up

[Anonymous No.15976757]

>>15972487
you're actually not buying the game. you're purchasing a license to play the game which can be revoked at any time.

[Anonymous No.15976860]

Reselling digital games will actually hurt the market more than it will help but the silver lining is that games now have a legal precedent for being called property and a legal argument can be made for not shutting down servers for games and leaving the playerbase no way to play their game anymore.

[Anonymous No.15976875]

>>15972508
>so fucking what

strong argument here

[Anonymous No.15977187]

>>15972600
Gamers really value an item that is really unique.
That is just impossible to create with a centralized server. It only works out with a smart contract that defines the number of items.

[Anonymous No.15977314]

>>15972539
They just need to create a minimalistic interface to get many people. Minimalistic designs attract most people I think. I keep everything dark mode black and simple.
The team consists of so damn well-educated people. I can't believe that this project is so undervalued.

[Anonymous No.15977435]

>>15972070
This seems shit desu, it will kill even more developers and make games focus on microtransactions even more

[Anonymous No.15977440]

>>15972116
I buy stuff on 70% and 90% sales all the time what are you talking about. I just bought a 75% off game yesterday

[Anonymous No.15977553]

>>15972602
this. I'd never, ever, ever trust some crypto project with my games for decades out. You never know when it's all going to be regulated to death or exit scammed