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Can we have a ruined boomer thread?
Preferably ones where they lose all their money
I can't get enough of this stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3SZCgj58Rk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHyXN6i53_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXMLQYEGsSQ

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>>15919314

>> No.15919397

Cool it with the creating a generational wedge psy-op brah

>> No.15919396

Seek help

>> No.15919449

>>15919314

Are these all jews?

>> No.15919461

>>15919314
creating a hatred toward an entire generation and partaking in celebration in people getting legitimately fucked over is not good karma.

There's a difference between being an uncaring narrow minded fuckwad, and genuine victims of financial psychopaths.

seek help, and please understand the difference.

Gen Z will be coming after millennials soon-- you watch.

>> No.15919477

>>15919461
big think

>> No.15919484

>>15919314
Irwin and steven salbe aren't your typical boomers. HE was helping out his kids for generational wealth. Real boomers dont do any of that.

>> No.15919489

how did they loose so much money?
also he is 90 years old, he just gives a fuck

>> No.15919491

>>15919461
gen z and millenials are relatively friendly. boomers must die and everyone agrees.

>> No.15919505

>>15919461
Karma isnt real you fucking shitskin. Boomers are scum fuck you. Millennials will be forgotton or the leaders of zoomers who will teach them about the kikes. How the fuck doy ou think zoomers now at least some know about the jQ? millennials.

>> No.15919510

>>15919461

So what can they possibly take from us?

>> No.15919535

>>15919491
Gen Z here. Millenials are FAR worse than fucking boomers.

>> No.15919565

>>15919535
oh lol nm then

>> No.15919589

>>15919477
>>15919491
>>15919505
>>15919510
>>15919535

Looks like I threw a rock at a bee's nest and got all sorts of reactions. I am very pleased with myself.

Gen Z will eventually blame millenials for everything once baby boomers' population drops by 50%.

Millenials by then will inherit their jobs, take political office, and soon do exactly what baby boomers did, but at an even worse level. It will be their way of saying "I deserved this", and the cycle will continue.

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>>15919461
>creating a hatred toward an entire generation and partaking in celebration in people getting legitimately fucked over is not good karma.
KEKx100000000
no one gives a fuck about boomers shit, they burned the world a million times over
Also karma isn't real snowflake

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>>15919505
>Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12: 21

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>>15919589
>Seething boomer detected
Isn't it time for your bedtime Argus?

>> No.15919691

>>15919589
seeing how well my generation (millenial) works together i'd say yeah we're going to accelerate this plane straight into the ground baby. get fucked gen z we're all going straight to hell

>> No.15919698

>>15919598
you missed the part where I said:

>There's a difference between being an uncaring narrow minded fuckwad, and genuine victims of financial psychopaths.

>uncaring narrow minded fuckwad
That's a boomer.

>> No.15919707

>>15919598
this
new agey mumbo jumbo like "karma" isn't gonna save u, boomers

>> No.15919712

>>15919707
absolutely missing the point.

>> No.15919733

>>15919535
Please don't kill me when shit hits the fan.

>> No.15919790

>>15919535
Definitely.

>> No.15919899

>>15919314
Fucking JIDF gtfo my board

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>>15919601
"How good and pleasant it is
when God’s people live together in unity!"
>Psalm 133:1
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law(Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
>Matthew 5:17
That's your favourite Jew Jesus talking.
"I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment."
>1 Corinthians 1:10
"Live in (((harmony))) with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight."
>Romans 12:16
"For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit."
>Corinthians 12:13
OY VEY We all have one body goy. Blacks and whites are equal in the eyes of God. Why don't you want them to flood your country Christcuck?
"By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
>John 13:35
Love each other Goy you are all children of God. Why do you have a problem with Niggers fucking white women goy?

Keep crying Christcuck. Whites are not buying your shit anymore

>> No.15920064

>>15919589
Millennial will not inherit any fucking jobs from the boomers. The only people who are going to inherit them are the zoomers because they are younger and fresh blood. Millenials will absolutely be forgotten because of what the boomers have done to the economy. Just remember though millennial are teaching zoomers about the JQ. Millennials will be the generals and commanders to your down fall shithead boomers.

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>>15920051

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>>15919314
Boomers are absolute cretins, these videos were chicken soup for the soul.

>>15919461
No shit retard, millenials are bassically yuppie fuck wannabes. Gen Z whites are unironically the first generation since the great gen to be majority redpilled and to denounce retardation in a sweeping motion. Hating on two seperate generations for being brainwashed into choosing mcchicken shits, liberty erosion, and shekelsteins wild fun land over fundamental progresses is very different from hating on your parents because they think korn and nirvana suck, and don't support climate change.
>>15919899
Gay and reposting on MY subreddit

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>>15919510

These are some famous last words if I ever read them

Zoomers are pretty chill though. The generation Millennials have to fear are those their children will belong to. They will be Boomers 2.0 and light the world on fire in the pursuit of spiritual and personal fulfillment. Get ready now.

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>>15919589

Baby Boomers didn't do shit, that's why they're so bad in the secular world. They're utterly incapable of working together, prefer screaming at the tops of their lungs and acting morally superior while doing so. Millennials are gonna be like the Greatest Gen and do big things and enforce a stifling culture of conformity. And like the Greatest Gen we'll get high sniffing our own farts until our children come along and blow us the fuck out with Boomer-esque careless rebellion. Gonna be great.

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>>15920135
>everyone I dont like is a boomer

Daily reminder not to fall for psyops pushing demoralization and the breakdown of the family nucleus

>> No.15920590

>>15919461
Gen z can't even figure out Instagram. Theybare basically young boomers.

>> No.15920598

>>15919461
>Gen Z will be coming after millennials
Millennials are broke and depressed. There's nothing to come after. Boomers hoard all the wealth.

>> No.15920649

>>15919314
Well, that’s pretty sad actually.90 years old is greatest generation. They were just as fucked by the Great Depression, communists and wars as we are.

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>>15920078
Not an atheist kike.

>> No.15920776

>>15919461
Grow a pair pussy

>> No.15920812

>>15919461

This. Blaming boomers is a Jewish ploy to shift responsibility from their actions to our parents

>> No.15920909

>>15919461
>Gen Z will be coming after millennials soon-- you watch.
For what? Milennials are broke, poor, and littered with debt.

>> No.15921054

>>15919461
No because you see the pain in millinials eyes. They can't smile without seeing that twinkle of having been betrayed in their eyes. No. Boomers know they are guilty of carelessness n not being aware.
We have no guilt. Only struggles and failures.

>> No.15921072

>>15920579
My family already broke me...

>> No.15921075 [DELETED] 

>>15919535
This is true

t. Zoomer

>> No.15921146

>>15920812
> I’m a schizophrenic and I forgot to take my meds

Get punched. Boomers destroyed the planet, they brag about doing so, they refuse to fix it, and you’re out here spreading ancient canards about 2% of the population

>> No.15921519

>>15919491
Gen Z here, fuck millennials

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>>15919623
>argus

>> No.15921662

The ones who will make it are the children of millenials. Gen Alpha.

>> No.15921664

>>15919535
Millennial here. Millennials are the worst generation since boomers, but we are still playing with the hand the boomers dealt us.

>> No.15921692

>>15920598
don't vote

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>> No.15921732

>>15921664
i think we all know inside that we're the most entitled generation that is least connected to reality

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>>15919535
I have yet to see a valid argument from you on why your Generation is any better that the millennials or boomers. I’ll wait.

>> No.15921752

zoomers are too young and retarded to have worthwhile opinions yet and can be completely ignored for 5 more years or so

>> No.15921854

>>15919461
gen z guy here. we fucking hate boomers too and agree that they all had it easy.

>> No.15921865

i thought zoomers would take me learning how to do the orange justice dance as a token of peace between our generations but i guess i was fucking wrong

>> No.15921874

>>15919461
riddle me this, why should I care about karma when the world is ruled by phychopatic fuckwads who step over everyone else?

>> No.15921887

>>15921874
>riddle me this

Shup up fag

>> No.15921901

>>15921887
>shut up fag
quiet cunt

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>>15919510
Your lives.

>> No.15921967

>>15921146

not really. for instance, all these (jewish) boomers invested their money into a jewish ponzi scheme.

a lot of the stuff we take for granted didn't exist when boomers were kids:

credit cards
unsecured debt
30 year fixed rate mortgages
non-gold backed currency
petrodollars
endless wars in vietnam (remember boomers are born between 1945 and 1965... for a lot of them, the vietnam war was not a thing)
gambling/betting

>> No.15922036

All of these negative threads are literally the JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense League) astroturfing all of social media pretending to be "fellow whites" talking about how they're giving up. They come in bunches. Look at the board right now. Mutiple demoralization threads made in the last few hours. The point is that they repeat this shit so much and so often that they think it will catch on and normal happy people will be infected by it.

If you think I am joking or that this is just a "conspiracy theory" take a look around the board right now. Any time you see a thread like this, take a look at the other threads on the board, and you will likely see several.

This shit is real and people are not paying attention to the fact that they are in a literal war with racists who are using real organized psychological warfare to harm them.

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>>15922036
For real. We need facts to debunk their scam.
And the fact is, that under the boomers watch, the world has improved greatly in almost every measure.
Your life is far better than the boomers were is almost every measure.

We can all get along and help each other. Boomers genuinely want to help.

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>>15922159

>> No.15922191

>unironically not respecting your elders
kys

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>> No.15922280

>>15922190
The movies are trash, protected land is still government owned, women shouldn't vote, the music is all Jewish psyops, science is fake, we're feeding retards, people just use their comprehension skills to read erotica, democracy is rigged.

>>15922195
Slavery is the most efficent form of capitalism, oil becomes gas which destroys the atmosphere, solar panels are a chinese industry, HIV is how god kills the sinners, more children is causing overpopulation, war is a natural phonemona that is being thwarted, death is the only motivation for normies, leaded gasoline smells better.

>>15922202
Planes are a scam, children are good laborers, natural disasters is gods way of killing poor people, nuclear missles create peace through dominance, smallpox would fix overpopulation, global warming is a lie, people should have to pay to use the ozone, we're raising world obesity levels.

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>>15920078
>t.

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>>15919461
You realize gen Z is gonna team up with us millennials and we're both gonna dab on your corpses right, boomer?

>> No.15922343

>>15922340
gen z will call you a lazy ass boomer for ruining the country after inheriting the greatest wealth transfer from baby boomers.

>> No.15922354

>>15922280
We need a new statistic to get lower: Irrational idiots like him who believe complete bullshit without evidence.

>> No.15922362

>>15919461
>Gen Z will be coming after millennials soon-- you watch.
I hate the millennials but I couldn't bring them more suffering than they've already had.

>> No.15922379

>>15919461
> Gen Z will be coming after millennials soon-- you watch.

Alongside to exterminate the rest the boomers during the purge.

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>>15922343
Lmao what wealth transfer? Bitcorns? Once we reach 100K MAYBE you'll have a point. Even then the divide isn't purely money, it's politics, religion, culture, immigration. Boomers have ruined literally everything. Why would gen Z give two shits about a few millenials getting rich off crypto? They'll still have time to put some money into it as well if they get on it early, a lot of zoomers already have crypto. I even set some crypto aside for my little brother.
The zoomers that hate us millenials only hate the blue hairs and soibois. We haven't had an opportunity to actually change anything. I wonder why

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>> No.15922540

>>15920668
>a jewish offshoot cult is full of jews
Oh wow how surprising

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>>15922036

>> No.15922574

>>15919314
Lol retards. Serves them right for being boomers

>> No.15922585

>>15919461
>gen z will be coming for millenials
Lol for WHAT? Millennials have no power. Boomers are STILL in control. Not every generation is destined to be as shit as you shitty boomer one

>> No.15922731

>>15921664
Raised by the "live beyond your means, just pay somebody else to do it" generation yet handed a world where that possibility is dying out and soon massive conservation of resources and self-sufficiency will be mandatory.
Interesting times are ahead at least.

>> No.15922759

>>15922036
Problem with this copypasta is I need only go outside to see just how depressing things really are and they are quite depressing.

>>15919535
In many ways this is true, but I have yet to see any evidence of of zoomers being better than millennials. If anything, the zoomers now in university seem to be worse than millennials.

>> No.15922772

>>15920425
Based and turningpilled

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https://youtu.be/VNYNMM0hXXY

>> No.15922811

I feel less pity for those who fall into the generational warfare trap than those who fall into the identity politics trap

>> No.15922816

>>15919314
after reading through this thread, i have one question: what the fuck has this board turned into? fucking reddit? wtf is this shit? who the fuck do you work for OP?

>> No.15922823

>>15922816
five years ago
>Lmao reddit Tumblr sjw fags blaming the boomers for all their problems
altrightsjws now
>fucking boomers are the reason I'm a neet incel reee

>> No.15922831

>>15922816
The shills who own Reddit like a dog on a leash have been trying their tricks here since the Digg days; it doesn't work but its their money.

>> No.15922839

>>15919314
greedy jews get REKT

>> No.15923481

42 yo Gen Xer here.

100 post thread, and not a single mention of us. We truly are the invisible generation!

Whatever.

>> No.15923542

>>15920064
>The only people who are going to inherit them are the
The chinese

FTFY

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>>15919461
>reddit spacing

>> No.15923559

>>15922190
You're kidding
Literacy and harvest are the only good thing son here

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>>15923481
stfu boomer.

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>>15919314
This is awesome, boomers not being able to die before the house of cards collapses, now thats justice.

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>>15919461
blah blah blah "Ill be dead by then" fuck off.

>> No.15924519

>>15919589
spot on im born 85 and early stage millennial but Im finally moving up in the financial and corporate world. Im turning into a boomer myself and have nothing but disdain for the generations coming after me I will make sure to solidify my position of power and enslave the young zoomers. theres millions out there in the same positon like me

>> No.15924533

>>15919489
She Lost his husbands money

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>>15919535

SNAPCHAT INSTAGRAM FACEBOOK YES YES YES LOOK MY HISTORY, OUH GUCCI GANG TRAP YEAH NIGGA

>> No.15924542

>>15920135
>Gen Z whites are unironically the first generation since the great gen to be majority redpilled and to denounce retardation in a sweeping motion.
>eats tidepods while dancing in woman's clothes on tiktok

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>>15922432
>>15922202
>>15922195
>>15922190
>>15922159
>Africans have more water
Who gives a fuck about shitskins, thats the problem boomer, you sold us all out.

>> No.15924554

>>15923481
surely we all love Gen X though right?

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>>15919314
We worked FUCKING HARD and deserve our money. We gave you fucking small-minded Reagan clones freedom to do drugs, great music, don't have to go to boring and out-dated church, choice, reproductive rights, free speech against the fucking church and authorities etc. We CREATED the modern world. So FUCK YOU shit generations from people that gave you entitled and ungrateful generations cultural freedom, the Beatles and Rolling Stones.

>> No.15924872

>>15920051
Well said, young man. When we were young we were FORCED to go to church. EVERY DAMN SUNDAY! The society we gave over to you is now completely free of stereotyping and oppression of minorities (ethnic (Jews), racial (Blacks and Hispanics), religious (Muslims and atheists) and sexual minorities. We gave you freedom.

>> No.15924891

>>15924542
Great gen did this type of shit too lmao, have you seen the trends where they all squeezed into a phone booth on top of each other?

>> No.15924922

Blaming your shitty life on boomers is extremely low IQ and gamma. Be halfway intelligent and learn to play the game long enough to win then peace out to a farm with the wife and kids and a stack of gold and guns. If you can't or won't you don't deserve it.

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>>15924846
>>15924872
Biting the bait hard, but pic related nigger

>> No.15924936

>>15924846
>gave you entitled and ungrateful generations cultural freedom, the Beatles and Rolling Stones.
>the Beatles and Rolling Stones.
And this is why you should be burned at the stake.

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>>15924872
Actually I'm an ex-christian of about 25yrs went to christian school and have done missionary work for the church. I understands its super hard for fucking moronic jew worshiping faggots like yourself to believe that there are other reasons then just waking up on sunday as the issue with christcuckery.

>> No.15925307

>>15925263
WE gave you atheism CUNT! Without our generation you would have been burned by the stake! THANK THE BABY GENERATION FOR THAT BITCH!

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>>15925307
what the fuck are you even trying to say right now?

>> No.15925329

>>15924932
Typical for your spoiled generation to not be able to handle the truth. We took and examined every single truth given to us by authorities and rightfully rejected fucking nearly all of it. Racism, colonialism, intolerance, religion etc. We created the great and free modern society you see and live in today. Every time you listen to great music, having some sex with your girlfriend, while doing drugs and just enjoying life, then thank us baby boomers for that! Without us that would never have been possible!

>> No.15925360

>>15925318
One of the best things we baby boomers gave you millennial, outside freedom to chose sex, drugs, fashion and follow your own dreams, not socities, was ATHEISM! The freedom and right to say god is a CUNT! WE gave you atheists that. You can thank us baby boomers, or 68s as we call ourselves here in Europe, for that. WE were the first atheist generation the west had ever seen. WE set you free from Christian morality and oppression.

>> No.15925413

>>15924936
You love it too much millennial, if we took away your free sex, drugs, music and Iphones, you would all go crazy. Just admit that we boomers gave you the best and most open society we have ever seen, where you can do the drugs you want, have sex with whomever or whatever you want, whenever you want, right to abortion, can do whatever the hell you want and no authority or cunt god can tell you anything. THAT is what we gave you and you will fight back if anyone tried to take away the gift we boomers (68s) gave you. Thats the truth.

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>>15925360
Atheism existed prior to you ever existing fuckhead.
>WE set you free from Christian morality and oppression.
If anything you increased christian morality throughout the US. As well as oppression currently you christian dog shit is still influencing elections. go fuck yourself.

>> No.15925443

>>15924936
>And this is why you should be burned at the stake.
It's exactly that type of entitlement and ungratefulness that makes so many baby boomers just have disdain for their kids and grandchildren, even hate them. So spoiled and not able to see the enormous cultural battle we had to fight for them and giving them a society free from racism, colonialism, intolerance, religion etc. We created the great and free modern society you see and live in today. Every time you listen to great music, having some sex with your girlfriend, while doing drugs and just enjoying life, then thank us baby boomers for that! Without us that would never have been possible!

>> No.15925452

>>15925435
>If anything you increased christian morality throughout the US.
Yeah, you are not fucked up at all. Us baby boomers, 68s, the most Christian generation ever. Are you high, fucking millennial?

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>>15925452
baby boomers are the most christian pieces of shit in the US and really the world.

>> No.15925505

>>15925463
>baby boomers are the most christian pieces of shit in the US and really the world.
Your crack cocaine have fried your brain, millennial. We boomers did soft drugs and we know how to use it. You spoiled and entitled millennials just have no self control and no brain. Thanks for showing so clear to us all. Keep blaming your grandparents for your own self-inflicted problems, son.

>> No.15925644

>>15919314
>hurr da joos try to turn you against boomers
which generation do you think allowed the jews to hoard such unprecedented power and wealth in the first place?
and which generation of the US elevated israel into "the chosen people" and began a traditional policy of showering israel with money and to never badmouth the jews?

and thanks to which generation the people of today need to fear arrest or public condemnation if they ever say something perceived as "antisemitic"?

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>>15919484
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>>15925463
>baby boomers are the most christian pieces of shit in the US and really the world.
Listening to you millennial nuts bragging about how atheistic you are, is such a joke. Sorry about your fried brain with your meth and crack cocaine, millennial. Some of us did LSD, but most of us did just soft drugs, and even those doing LSD knew how to handle it, unlike you weak and spoiled millennials, that can't even handle drugs like we did.

NO ONE hated religion more than us boomers, 68s! NO ONE! We had free community newspapers that we plastered on walls, mocking priests and Christianity. We had free art exhibition on the streets where our main theme was using menstrual blood and excrements to make art mocking Christians and Christianity. We were the first generation to smash glass stained windows at churches, spit and abuse priests for their sexism, colonialism and racism. WE made it possible for you to say fuck you to the priests and not go church but rather have some hard and raw sex while listening to rock'n roll and do some drugs. Living the life son. WE gave you that. WE were freethinkers and free from the shackles of religion!

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>>15925463
>baby boomers are the most christian pieces of shit in the US and really the world.
Listening to you millennial nuts bragging about how atheistic you are, is such a joke. Sorry about your fried brain with your meth and crack cocaine, millennial. Some of us did LSD, but most of us did just soft drugs, and even those doing LSD knew how to handle it, unlike you weak and spoiled millennials, that can't even handle drugs like we did.

NO ONE hated religion more than us boomers, 68s! NO ONE! We had free community newspapers that we plastered on walls, mocking priests and Christianity. We had free art exhibition on the streets where our main theme was using menstrual blood and excrements to make art mocking Christians and Christianity. We were the first generation to smash glass stained windows at churches, spit and abuse priests for their sexism, colonialism and racism. WE made it possible for you to say fuck you to the priests and not go church but rather have some hard and raw sex while listening to rock'n roll and do some drugs. Living the life son. WE gave you that. WE were freethinkers and free from the shackles of religion!

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>>15925413
nice bait retard

>> No.15926419

>>15925697
Are you a legit idiot?
I'm trying not to feel bad for you.
This is typically how boomers make me feel when they try to be relatable or helpful. I look down and sigh and try not to feel bad for them and wonder if I will be that out of touch too when I am 20-30 years older...

>> No.15926450

>>15926399
Do not feed the boomer.
All you have to do is point out obvious advantages they had to get attacked by them. LOL. The trait of a fragile, guilty yet butthurt, being.

>> No.15926532

>>15925443
Oh we know. Boomers are the only generation to openly hate their own children while having at least 3x as much for half the work, at least from a strength of the dollar vs population density perspective... We are literally cannon fodder for boomers. I was born to do chores for free, free labor, no doorknob (coz half of all boomers are legit self serving psychos). Graduated early and it triggered my dad so I was kicked out. Paying 800$ per month n working full time to make no savings at 16. Because I don't have the heart to convict my idiot boomer dad for kicking me out on the streets based on jealousy of not having to (being able to) get a job at 16. He was also unemployed for the last 4 yesrs I lived with him. He hasn't had a job since. He lives in an inherited house he also rents out. He is considering selling it for spending cash, while he lives out his fantasy of being a farmer on 40 acres that he convinced his wife to pay for. They don't even get along with each other lol. It's sad. It's really sad. It's dad.

>> No.15926571

>>15925697
Now the next generation are free from the shackles of wealth and power.
FREEDOM

>> No.15926639

>>15919589
>Gen Z will eventually blame millenials
GenX and millenials agree on hating boomers, and so do zoomers.

>> No.15926647

>>15919461
gen z and millenials can relate but boomers? they think they know everything. a big fucking shoutout to my late step father who gave us nothing but problems after he passed away. pathetic!