learning to code

[Anonymous No.15902389]

https://www.appacademy.io/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=6561009320&utm_content=softwareengineer&gclid=Cj0KCQjw84XtBRDWARIsAAU1aM2AnP9W8MGtgzIDGuc3p4QNsjEmhuVjm_k_wMC22QgVXXODFI23Cd4aAgoZEALw_wcB

school comes across as bullshit. This program seems to have a 1/3 success rate all while costing you nothing until you get the job..

what do you coders of biz think?

[Anonymous No.15902393]

>>15902389
i'm not going to say these code academy things are useless because they are good resources for beginners

but the best thing you can do to learn programming to just get a fucking textbook and read it front to back, do all the exercises and labs and do it over again for another book

libgen.is

[Anonymous No.15902402]

these programs kick people out and do all kinds of shenanigans (like take minorities and women who are given jobs just because of muh affirmative action and tech hates wominz) they don't tell you about to inflate the 'success' rate

[Anonymous No.15902423]

>>15902389
The best way to learn how to code is to:

1) have something you wnat to create and work towards actually creating it using the language you want to learn.
2) Idle on the IRC channel for the language you are learning on the freenode network and ask for help when stuck.
3) Refer to the languages manual
4) Follow tutorials and read books.
5) Stick with it.

[Anonymous No.15902424]

>>15902389
Coding has a notoriously difficult learning curve between being considered a "good coder" and being considered "entry-level coder" or even a "script kiddie." I've been coding ever since I was a little anon, was in gifted and talented, and I'm on the lower end of those "good coders." These people have YEARS of practical knowledge and experience, and you will NEVER be able to match them.

This "school" isn't really a school. It's an "entry-level" trap. If you are actually skilled at coding, you don't need to be taught jack. You can literally look at documentation and learn through fucking osmosis. It's insane, I've seen it.

"Learn to code" is a meme. Kids learn to code. You learn to cook. You never learned any useful skills, and you're gonna fry for it.

[Anonymous No.15902443]

>>15902389
None of that shit even matters anymore. The entire field of coding is saturated. You can't even get your foot in the door as an entry-level coder these days without connections. It's become just like every other industry. And forget about working from home. Companies won't even give those jobs to people unless they already have years of experience under their belts.

[Anonymous No.15902444]

>>15902424
>Anonymous (ID: 1yMibOrR) 10/13/19(Sun)10:27:51 No.15902
thx

[Anonymous No.15902549]

You're likely going to waste your time. The industry is saturated not only with CompSci graduates but also people with STEM degrees (or any college degree). Every Chad and Stacy are trying to get into coding. The people who get hired after attending coding bootcamps aren't regular Joe Schmoes but colleges grads who are unable to find work in their field. This probably the most competitive field to get into right now.

[Anonymous No.15902565]

>>15902423
>>15902424
>>15902393
Actual programmers

Programming is hard as hell when you're making GOOD things. It's not hard to teach a retard syntax. Beyond that, it's all on you. That's the good thing about it, there are so many blogs out there and books written by experienced professionals. Go read them and make something, what do these bootcamps do anyway? They force you to make shit to survive, which you could do on your own

[Anonymous No.15902782]

>>15902389

Drag and drop software like Thunkable or MIT App Inventor is a good way to get started. I was always against them (for no real reason in hindsight) but I've seen people learn faster using this approach than any other way.

[Anonymous No.15902789]

>>15902565
Exposed bitch here

http://imgur.com/RsE4yZ4

[Anonymous No.15903587]

Having previously used Javascript (and the Google Maps API) for my own projects, how much opportunity is there to make money from javascript programming on a temporary basis?

[Anonymous No.15903679]

If you want to learn to code DO NOT go to school for it. You can learn from countless resources for free
t. CS undergrad

[Anonymous No.15903736]

>>15903679
Every class I take I just end up googling around anyway. And yet every company wants a BS in CS even though everyone so far who knows their shit didn't learn it in class. I have a long ways to go but I've done way more than everyone around me. I just go home and work on my own stuff after I finish homework

[Anonymous No.15903980]

in other words, everything is a meme. this country sucks.

[Anonymous No.15905243]

German here.
I studied communication desgn, it's basically /gd/.
I did that because I enjoy it and because I ddn't rly think about money when I started uni.

When I was done and got my first gd job I started to realize I was financially fucked. /gd/ is the worst paid shit show you can imagine.

I went to a coding bootcamp called Ironhack and learned entry level code shit in 3 (!) Months. After that I was hired by a small agency that pays almost double of what I got in my first GD job after Uni. Now that I have that job I could pretty easily get a different coding job at another company if i wanted to without having a huge background in coding. So while I agree its just entry level shit- it may be a very very good option for some people (like me.)

[Anonymous No.15905249]

When will the coding bubble pop?

[Anonymous No.15905466]

>>15905249
never. coding automates non-coding jobs and makes them obsolete. It will only continue to grow and take over every industry.

And for retards who think AI will replace programmers soon, no it won't kek, we have no idea how to do AGI, not even the slightest clue. Our current AI is not generalized at all.

[Anonymous No.15905541]

>>15905466
The mere fact that "coding bootcamps" are a thing is indicative of a bubble

[Anonymous No.15905815]

>>15905466
> coding will make non-coding jobs obsolete
> b-but it won't make the coding jobs obsolete
big cope

[Anonymous No.15906630]

>>15903736
If the end game is just learning to code don't take classes
If the end game is programming for a company, its a different story and i dont know of anything short of a bachelors that they'd like
It's pretty unfortunate because is they just need a programmer then requiring a cs bachelors means you're hiring someone who can do way more than just program

[Anonymous No.15906651]

>>15905815
Halting problem, bud
Its mathemarically provable that our computers cannot write code
Best they can get is refactoring or randomly changing already written code to hopefully optimize it, but computers will never be able to write any arbitrary program from scratch