Expensive Cardboard

[Anonymous No.15898587]

Are you fucking shitting me? Why does this garbage exist?

I can't believe people are selling individual cards of this cardboard game for hundreds of dollars.

[Anonymous No.15898624]

>>15898587
So you're saying sentimental value isn't worth money?
My girlfriend and I just sold a 217/214 Charizard GX I pulled for $750. Bought the whole box of cards $100.

[Anonymous No.15899076]

gathered from rudy that the old wotc cards are not technically able to be copied. The belgian presses, the inks, the cardboard. The materials and industrial process knowledge no longer exist and cannot be feasibly copied for the uniqueness/imperfections to be correct.

[Anonymous No.15899100]

>>15898587
Modern staples are not investment grade
Lottery cards are not investment grade
Legacy staples are not investment grade
The only cards that remain investable are ABU, and reserved list cards. As high ticket as possible (1x2000 is better than 4x500), and keep the condition sorted by never ever fucking touching them.

Any questions faggots?

[Anonymous No.15899196]

Everything is speculation grade tho

[Anonymous No.15899309]

>>15898587
Manufactured scarcity

[Anonymous No.15899492]

>>15899309
not all. alpha and beta are truly scarce. reprints would do very little.

[Anonymous No.15900603]

>>15899076

>belgian presses

dude that's so gay

[Anonymous No.15900934]

>>15898587
>reprints will do very little

not true, in the early days you had the alpha original set, then the beta re-prints/fixes, and then the unlimited re-prints. so it went:
alpha x 2.6mil
beta x 7.3mil
but do to so much demand they then made
unlimted x 35mil

when they printed unlimited many collectors had already dished out alot of money for certain cards that had their value destroyed due to the mass printing. so do to complaints they formed the reserved list:
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Reserved_List
wotc regreat making the list and their is nothing preventing them from doing away with it other than a 25 year old promise not to. if they started to reprint the cards on that list their value would tank, regardless of what series they are from

[Anonymous No.15900943]

Good stay out of my competition

[Anonymous No.15900950]

>>15900934
this was meant to reply to this>>15899492

also GU will do away with all the problems of physical card games, with the only down side being not able to hold it in your hands

[Anonymous No.15901964]

>>15899076
>>15898587
Really wish I kept my magic cards from when I played in the 90s, I had them stored at an exgfs house and she committed suicide and I had no way to get them back

[Anonymous No.15902053]

>>15898624
Pokemon cards aren't profitable anymore. Too much speculation. The expected return on a box is massively negative now

[Anonymous No.15902087]

>>15899076
big if tru

[Anonymous No.15902232]

>>15900950
>>15902053
i’m aware of the history of the reserved list. reprints are not the same as alpha and beta. giant growth has seen DI printings and an alpha is still $50. alpha healing fucking salve is $25.
even if they abolished the reserved list alpha and beta printings will always be scarce.

[Anonymous No.15902624]

Massive bubble that is about to pop.

[Anonymous No.15902768]

>>15898587
normies get out

[Anonymous No.15902886]

>>15898624
>t. Maxmoefoe

[Anonymous No.15903067]

>>15898587
>why are people trading cardboard for cardboard.

[Anonymous No.15903151]

>>15898587
Which is why people should be investing in the digital ETH backed tcg God's Unchained instead.

[Anonymous No.15903166]

>>15903151
Do you actually have to play the game to get cards?

[Anonymous No.15904253]

>>15900934
people always say that Wizards could just "eliminate the reserve list" and, yea they could but what would they gain from it? all it would do is piss off half of the already niche community and for what? so WotC could make a few more dollars from reprinting dual lands? they're already making bank printing $500 gorillian dollar Supreme Deluxe Extreme Exclusive editions of the latest sets all without having to do ANYTHING to the Reserve List.

[Anonymous No.15904316]

>>15900934
The reserve list was because of Chronicles not unlimited afaik.

[Anonymous No.15904388]

>>15899076
there are literally hundreds of chinese copies of ABUR cards that have gotten PSA graded and sold on ebay for full market price

rudy is a scared faggot who knows its only a matter of time before his shit is worth less than the toilet paper cardstock its printed on and doesnt want people to take a serious look into chinese prints

[Anonymous No.15904714]

>>15904388
>rudy is a scared faggot who knows its only a matter of time before his shit is worth less than the toilet paper cardstock its printed on and doesnt want people to take a serious look into chinese prints
I doubt he's scared when he's making fucking bank from both Youtube and Patreon from people buying newer boxes from him. The dude's basically a distributor at this point who can afford to undercut the market so hard on box prices because so many people have bought into him thinking they're "saving money and investing" when they're really just paying a Patreon tax to get some slightly cheaper boxes.

[Anonymous No.15904735]

>>15904714
I'm pretty sure that he already had retirement money from his previous job and owning a shop is his post retirement hobby.

[Anonymous No.15904859]

>>15904253
do you suggest magic the gathering?
Guys what would you say about Naruto cards?

[Anonymous No.15905021]

>>15904253
do you suggest magic the gathering?
Guys what would you say about Naruto cards?

[Anonymous No.15905109]

>>15898587
Anyone who invests in stuff like this is a god-damn retard. If you are in it for fun then go for it but if you consider this shit your retirement fund you're a moron.

[Anonymous No.15905145]

>>15905109
Human emotions are always the same. You can exploit nostalgic boomers of the future if you have the right set of of cards
But you are too empatically retard to understand this

[Anonymous No.15905392]

naruto cards?

[Anonymous No.15905416]

It's obviously a speculative bubble and /biz/ is getting FOMO'd.

[Anonymous No.15905439]

>>15905416
first edition black lotus... not a 10 tho...
didn't know they'd be so valued...

[Anonymous No.15905463]

>>15905439
>so valued
I don't think they are that valued. It's a great card, but who would pay US $166,100.00 for one card for their deck? Who would pay that to display it even when you can get lower tier Picasso's or a Lambo for that much? It's a speculative bubble imo.

[Anonymous No.15905490]

i think i still have some MTG cards from early 2000s, is now the time to sell or should i sit on them for another 10yrs?

[Anonymous No.15905578]

ok since we are discussing rare cards...
I have very rare tarot cards that are 17.5cm x 10.5cm can't find sleeves for them... any ideas?

[Anonymous No.15905580]

>>15905439
what are those cards?
lotus? What is it?
>>15905490
How much increased in value MTG?

[Anonymous No.15905612]

>>15905578
who's gonna buy tarot cards?

[Anonymous No.15905645]

>>15898587
>be OP
>dumb as shit, uninformed mongrel
>thinks that only functional things have value
>tries to create a business that provides only functional value
>barely survives on the smallest of profit margins and gets BTFO by all the businesses that provide emotional value and reap the highest profit margins
>remains a dumb slave with opinions all his life

[Anonymous No.15905661]

>>15905578
Card Saver IV's are large hard sleeves, and Ultra Pro and Ultimate Guard both make "oversize" soft sleeves. I'm sure one of those options should be suitable.

[Anonymous No.15905701]

>>15905661
thanks anon I'll have a look

[Anonymous No.15905753]

>>15905701
You could also try sleeves for banknotes. Ultra Pro makes them too and they come in different sizes.

[Anonymous No.15905819]

>>15904735
He has/d a successful restaurant supply company and maybe another business.

[Anonymous No.15906003]

every now and then I'll buy old pokemon cards on ebay for no more than $5 a piece, was surprised they have so many sealed cards you'd get at the 1st and 2nd movies so cheap and available

I bought 1st edition sealed fossil pack a few years ago, they go for about $15 dollars more than what I paid for these days it seems
there's a tiny tiny pin hole in the wrapper that bugs the shit out of me, guess I"ll just buy a graded one someday.

here is my plain old, not rare or valuable 'used condition' charazard from my gameboy color days.

[Anonymous No.15907070]

>>15898587
I'd just fucking print cards out of paper and put them in sleeve protectors, lmao.

[Anonymous No.15907313]

>>15906003
I got this card and many others when they came out. Put them in some box at parents place. Wonder how much I could get from them today.

[Anonymous No.15907470]

>>15898587
shhh i'm trying to build up my collection and start flipping.

[Anonymous No.15907486]

you can use mtgox to trade with

[Anonymous No.15907494]

>>15905416
>pay 166,100 for a card
>still get charged $6.00 for shipping

[Anonymous No.15907499]

>>15898587
>Crypto
>Expensive 1's and 0's

[Anonymous No.15907502]

>>15898587
There's an entire economy set up within mtg. Mtg has been around since the eighties and has more players than any other tabletop thing worldwide it also has more players than some AAA vidya games.

As far as gaming goes way smarter than spending thousands of dollars on fucking pixels in all these micro transaction laden video games.
When I get tired of MTG I can sell my entire stash probably get 250x what I spent on acquiring it.

[Anonymous No.15907666]

>>15901964
Someone probably murdered her for your MtGs and just made it LOOK like a suicide. Either way, sorry for your loss.

[Anonymous No.15908247]

>cardboard
It's cardstock

[Anonymous No.15908293]

>>15907502
Yeah a small economy. Just because you learned a new word in school doesnt mean you have to use it in every context.

[Anonymous No.15908363]

>>15907070
actually did this
photo copied my best cards and glued them to shit ones to trade brainlets

[Anonymous No.15908723]

>>15904859
>naruto TCG
lol, is that shit even alive? MTG is probably the only current MTG that's worth investing in if you even want to do that. just know you're going to be holding onto your shit for almost a decade before you see any real returns usually.

[Anonymous No.15908748]

>>15907494
>pay 166,100 for a card
>USPS loses it in shipping