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>Silicon Valley billionaire, 32, pays $10,000 to be KILLED so the contents of his brain can be digitally uploaded and preserved forever

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5503045/amp/Tech-billionaire-pays-10K-die-brain-uploaded-online.html

>The rich will become ‘God-like cyborgs’: Historian claims the wealthy will transform into a new type of human within 200 years

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3096393/amp/The-rich-God-like-cyborgs-Historian-claims-wealthy-transform-new-type-human-200-years.html

>Russian research project offers 'immortality' to billionaires - by transplanting their brains into robot bodies

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2175374/amp/Russian-research-project-offers-immortality-billionaires--transplanting-brains-robot-bodies.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=01hbkh4hXEk

>Dmitry Itskov on the Philosophy of Immortality

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dyJjGxZs4l8

>Transhumanism: Could we live forever? BBC News

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=STsTUEOqP-g

>> No.15893779

I want B.

>> No.15893786

This is what Epstein was talking about?

>> No.15893795

>>15893772

>Dailymail

>brain
>digitally uploaded

There is some chance that people born today will live forever. But the tech is nowhere near there yet.

There is nothing that can be done about a lot of common things - cancer, arthritis, varicose veins, etc.

Your best bet at the moment is staying healthy - eat, sleep, exercise.

Maybe, maybe things like cold baths, saunas, resveratrol, intermittent fasting, etc can help, but there are not strong proofs.

As far as science fixing REAL health issues - good fucking luck in 2019.

>> No.15893797

>>15893772
Is this like the teleporter that kills you but makes an exact duplicate on the other end? Still isnt you more like a clone since there is death involved. What would star trek do???

>> No.15893811

>>15893772
>billionaire
>10k
???

>> No.15893816

I've done a lot of pondering and come to the conclusion that one of the biggest white pills is that you get to eventually die.

I don't really care about billionaires being immortal, I'd be more worried about them forcing it upon their goyim slave cattle.

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>>15893772
inb4 each upload opens exposes you to a MITM attack by extra-dimensional entities who have made secret deals with tech billionaires on DMT enslave dumb goyim forever

>> No.15893824

>>15893816
this.

>> No.15893830

>>15893772
fear not OP, The Nobody will sort this out. He has Pepe the frog face tattoos, you cannot miss him

we aren't reaching immortality any time soon, despite what the media preach, although it's obviously a goal for the elite

>> No.15893831

We need to learn early to become robot hunters then

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>>15893772
>>15893795

>yfw vampires are real

Anyway, they will be dumping a ton of money into research into this soon. Peter Thiel is already doing it with article related. Sergey Brin also doesn't want to die. That's why Alphabet is investing into anti-aging tech.

There is a good chance they will keep it on the DL though.

>>15893811

They can cut off your head and preserve it for 10k. Body for 100-400k. So far, most of the "companies" offering these services have run out of money and let the storage tanks heat and decomposed a few bodies.

Not really reliable at that price point.

>> No.15893867

Some of these billionaires are going to experience hell or purgatory for real.

>> No.15893872

Sorry senpai but cant be done. your true self(soul) is attached to your body through a thing the silver cord and its only cut when you die

Mind uploading doesnt work . those scientists should be working on artifical bodies instead and just place your brain and spinal cord

Check em

>> No.15893879

imagine PAYING some chuckfucks money to keep your head in storage.

>> No.15893882

>>15893872

Brain tends to go for a lot of people too.

As far as silver cord, I know you are trolling, but if you are a kid, spend a month or two learning to lucid dream and then fucking around with astral projection.

It's a pretty "enlightening" experience to realize that you are just dreaming, though it's pretty trippy.

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>>15893872
>checkem
Blocks your path.

>> No.15893987

>>15893882
Just hope we can fix brain diseases till then

>> No.15893999

>>15893772
C and D is death.
B is a stop-gap.
Brain computerisation is where it's at.

>> No.15894029

>>15893882
Yeah i was half trolling half serious because i actually believe NDEs and OBEs are real . ive actually been trying to astral project for years to experiment with sone random playing cards placed in my room to see if i got the numbers right but cant do it can only lucid dream. The only time i ever felt i actually was out of my body and it felt real i couldnt open my eyes and it ended quick but i could feel being inside my bedroom touching the floor that time

>> No.15894060

The Human Instrumentality project is essentially what these peolle want. Its why i liked NGE so much, a bunch of dirty jews controling the fate of the world trying to become better than god

>> No.15894087

>>15893772

Sorry, kiddos. Immortality in the absolute sense doesn't exist.

Entropy will eventually win.

At best, you can only transfer to a form that is more resistant but not immune to it.

>> No.15894089

>>15893772
>Google "Sam Altman"
>Wikipedia
>CTRL+F "Jewish"
>Raised Jewish and gay
Every single time.

>> No.15894130
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>>15893772
HOLY SHIT

ALEX JONES WAS FUCKING RIGHT

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>>15894087

>Computer that could outlive the universe a step closer

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22028-computer-that-could-outlive-the-universe-a-step-closer/

https://www.universetoday.com/96379/a-space-time-crystal-to-outlive-the-universe/

>> No.15894276

>>15894029

Props for experimenting with it properly. I felt the "OBE leaving body sensation" multiple times - it does feel like you are leaving your body. I also appeared in my room, but I can best describe the experience as "low resolution" and trying to focus on anything too intently snapped me out of it. I tested a few places I could go to later, and it was completely off, which leads me to believe it was just a dream. I can't even lucid anymore, haven't done it for years.

>>15894087

Doesn't matter - being immortal is awesome, but at that timescale, you will want to die. There is a huge difference between wanting to live 100,000 years and a billion.

>>15894141

There is that whole slowing down computation speed to be super efficient with energy. "Uploading the brain" isn't really immortality as most of us understand it though.

It's the teleportation dilemma - you are you for every outside perspective, but you are dead.

>> No.15894293

>>15893772
>dailymail.co.uk
Trans-humanism/immortality is interesting though.

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15894295

Have you noticed how Zuckerberg and Bezos both have this waxy skin with no fine hairs on it, and the same dilated, ghoulish eyes?
I guarantee they are on some rich people only gene therapy shit with the belief they will live to 150.

>> No.15894303

>>15893795
>As far as science fixing REAL health issues - good fucking luck in 2019.
This man. Fuck. Having chronic illnesses fucking suck the only thing modern medicine can do is treat sympyoms but not the underlying root cause.

>> No.15894351

When they manage to find a real cure for something as simple as male pattern balding, then maybe I'll take this talk of clinical immortality seriously. But as long as members of the global elite are still going bald, and they are, then lol at any notion of advanced science fiction medicine being just around the corner.

>> No.15894375

>>15893816

the white pill is the immortal soul that gets reincarnated.

The goyim will always be die.

>> No.15894384

>>15894295

Can you imagine what kind of longevity shit they have access to?

>> No.15894399

>>15894384
We’re not there yet. The people on the cutting edge of this tech are actually decent human beings who want it available for everyone. George Church for example

>> No.15894403

>>15893795
U already can. There was an article here about those meds here

>> No.15894407

also you fags should take the simulationpill anyways. none of this is baseline reality, we’re all a sort of vidya for some greater intelligence

>> No.15895279

>>15893797
Who cares. There's no persistent you juice anyway, just memory and efferent signals in thoughts that give a sense of continuity. A teleported copy of you would be as much you as you are at two ends of the day.

>> No.15895288

>>15893816
Death is needed at some point but 80-90 years of which 40 of them are pretty infirm either in childhood or senility is just not enough.

>> No.15895299

>>15893772
You can’t upload your brain on the cloud, it’d just be a copy of you

>> No.15895314

>>15894351
This, i even know a few 'elite' tier people through family and they really don't live mucu me of a different life. Expensive holidays and schools for kids with big homes in major cities but the same health problems and the sort of worries and thoughts as a lot of people. If there is any blacksite alien tek™ going around it's hidden extraordinarily well and isn't available on the basis of money.

I know a guy who was so high up at GS his name was on the wiki sidebar and his son had autism and other substantial issues. Nice guy and spent a lot on accessible computers and carers for him but there was no cure waiting. He always said he'd have given everything else up to cure his son.

>> No.15895347

>>15893797
unfortunately this, im not willing to die just so that my great grand kids and their great grand kids can grow up with 'me'. Until there is a method of 'cut/paste' and not 'copy/die/paste' this will never kick off. Maybe at the end of someones life sure but i dont see many 30-60 healthy billionaires voluntary killing themselves so a copy of them are still around.

Its still a great first step tho

>> No.15895391

>>15893772
The brain does not "contain" data that can be "uploaded."

https://aeon.co/essays/your-brain-does-not-process-information-and-it-is-not-a-computer

These materialist immortality morons deny the actual nature of consciousness (which is non-physical), and as such, they're never going to be able to "upload themselves."

>> No.15895403

>>15893772
>Tfw linkies and sergsy will become immortal gods in our lifetime

>> No.15895459

>>15895391
It's how people reliant on science™ for all their thinking like to hand wave away any problems of the mind.
> "It's just a computer and thinking is the software"
Ignoring the face that this statement says nothing at all. Now you can copy a person, all continued existence is is a lifetime of copying. We also don't know what consciousness is or how it results from material but it certainly seems to do the latter so it's possible an artifical intelligence could possess it. However we just don't know. A "cloud" version of you could well end up a P-zombie.

Though I'd have no problem believing a teleported clone would be conscious as that's essentially normal living.

>> No.15895461

>>15894351
Cure for male hair loss will be offered starting from 2020 or 2021 in Kyoto, because some Japanese doctor found the solution.

>> No.15895471

Brain is a 5D symbolic system with a 3D representation, hooked up to a 5D dream computer.

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>>15893772
I think it's retarded that there are people who are so afraid of dying that they freeze themselves or try to upload their brain to a computer. It will never really be them in the true sense of the word, so it speaks to how insecure they are. 99.99999999% of humanity has already lived and died, its natural and inevitable. I wouldn't want to live as some cyborg abomination AI or some crazy shit just to squeeze out another 20 years or something. That's not really living. You're gonna die eventually anyway if you theoretically could live til the heat death of the universe.

>> No.15895534

>>15895519
That's a little facetious. You're going to die in 50 years so why not now? Life is inordinately precious, quite obviously it is the only valuable thing as there is nothing but it. If you can spend money to gain existence for another 5/10 years it's hard to argue for spending it elsewhere.

>> No.15895542

>>15893772

Isn't this exactly what alex jones was ranting about on the joe rogan podcast?

>> No.15895561

>>15895534
What if what comes after death is unironically better than this though? Like dying after a long fulfilling life and then you get rewarded with some better plane of existence, and then billionaires just make themselves suffer a hellish existence for a longer period of time.

I'm not saying kill yourself now because you're gonna die anyway, thats stupid. I'm just saying live your life but don't be overly concerned about dying.

>> No.15895563

>>15894351

Finasteride and minoxidil have been around for a while, side effect free versions specifically for hairloss will be made

>> No.15895571

>>15893772
Killing yourself and leaving behind a copy paste of your brain isn't immortality

>> No.15895581

>>15894303
They arent trying, they just want the population up and brown, so unless you have a 3rd worlder disease, you're out of luck

>> No.15895599

>>15893772
>Digitally upload your brain
That's not how the brain works, it's not a fucking hard drive.

>> No.15895616

>>15895561
There's little indication of that and a lot against it. Im agnostic and with qualia know a materialistic conception of the universe doesn't cover everything however that's not to say there's anything supernatural. We know from sleep, brain injury and even day to day mood that our subjectives are fully dependent on the physical brain. Lose a part of it and you lose parts of yourself in a way far more intimate than 'i can no longer control this part of my body'. Modes of thinking are lost, abilities of self reflection gone, likes and dislikes change. There is every reason to think that once the brain perishes we go too.

>> No.15895619

>>15895571
So what exactly in your mind is the persistent you that makes the difference?

>> No.15895641

>>15893786
Elaborate.

>> No.15895651

>>15895616
We as we know it are almost certainly lost or recycled somehow, but we came into existence once before, it can happen again in a different plane of existence in a different way. There is more to this life than the physical, and until you see some crazy shit that isn't supposed to exist, you will keep believing we are nothing but meat.

>> No.15895653

>>15895651
I quite explicitly stated in my first sentence i don't believe a materialistic conception of the universe. Hopefully you reincarnate as someone literate.

>> No.15895668

>>15894407
>Le greater intelligence meme
>le alien meme

Literally no proof and those theories are just as absurd and devoid of logic as this reality

>> No.15895670

>>15895653
I didn't mean "you" as in you specifically, I meant you as in "one" or (anyone), sorry for not clarifying that you turbo douche

>> No.15895681

>>15893795
The people who run this earth have been transfering consciousness between bodies for 5000 years.

>> No.15895689

>>15895619
I guess it's the rolling consciousness, cells die, some replenish, I carry out from moment to moment through them.

But photocopying me and killing the original isn't immortality, it's replacement

>> No.15895714

transhumanism is nothing new. Its literally been the endgoal of elite occultists to ascend beyond mortality and become gods for centuries. yes they are forcing it into the mainstream now because they think there's finally a path to it via consciousness upload and they need our "consent" to impose their will into reality. they've been deceived (guess who) into believing this pie in the sky bullshit like the bunch of retarded sodomites that they are

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>>15893772
>Silicon Valley billionaire, 32

>> No.15895993

>>15895519

See
>>15894141

>> No.15896359

>>15895714
this is the truth. for people that are so smart and cunning in other ways it always makes me lol that tptb thinks this shit is going to work.

>> No.15896372

>>15895689
But rolling consciousness would be preserved in a flawless copy. We could even allow for some gaps like if you get blackout drunk or go unconscious for whatever reason. As long as you have the memory and the same brain processes to feel like the same person there wouldn't be any jarring change.

>> No.15896377

>>15894303
If you got autoimmune issues look into helminthic therapy.

>> No.15896385

>>15893820
This guy thinks ahead.

>> No.15896393

>>15895542
Pretty much. Alex Jones is right once again

>> No.15896620

>>15893772
It's just bait to get the goyim to sign up for his investment

>> No.15896672

>>15893879
You pay them with a life insurance policy.

>> No.15896729

>>15893772
lmao this seems like the biggest scam ever. imagine unironically letting a company kill you because they claim they can "upload your brain to cyberspace" but it turns out it was elizabeth holmes running the company

>> No.15896734

>>15896372
Idk anon, don’t you hear stories of people getting heart transplants and taking on personality traits of the donor. For all you know your lose the mind body connection and get put in a robot body and feels like being bathed in acid 24/7.

>> No.15896739

>>15893772
Who the fuck would want to be immortal? This planet is turning into shit.

>> No.15896766

>>15896739
This.

>> No.15896806

>>15893772
>phone posting
fuck off nigger

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>>15894407

>> No.15897409

>>15895279
t. retard

>> No.15897420

>>15895461
Tsuji

>> No.15897440

>>15895668
what’s with the dumbasses itt
what are probabilities you faggot

>> No.15897524

Trapped in purgatory
A lifeless object, alive
Awaiting reprisal
Death will be their acquittance


The sky is turning red
Return to power draws near
Fall into me, the sky's crimson tears
Abolish the rules made of stone


Pierced from below, souls of my treacherous past
Betrayed by many, now ornaments dripping above


Awaiting the hour of reprisal
Your time slips away

Raining blood
From a lacerated sky
Bleeding its horror
Creating my structure
Now I shall reign in blood

>> No.15897575

>>15893772

>in a few decades
we will all live on the blockchain

>> No.15898253

That's false immortality, true immortality lies in our genetics

Your virtual avatar will "live", but you, your will and true self will be long dead by then.

>> No.15898315

>>15893772
You have to be mentally retarded to do this. Neuroscience has reached the level where we understand how complex the human brain is, and at this point in time we are well aware that you need a much larger amount of compute power to upload a single human brain than exists if you were to combine every single computer in the world. We simply are not there with hardware yet, and if we were then we would know an insane amount more about the brain than we do because we’d be able to scan it at such a detailed level. Replicating a human brain digitally is literally physically impossible at this stage in the game, and anyone suiciding for some jabroni computer brain has a mental handicap to begin with.

>> No.15898382

>>15894399
read the clinton emails
the billionaires are using baby blood to rejuvenate and eating stem cells and shit
then they pray to Moloch
look at their eyes it's a deal with the devil

>> No.15898398

>>15893816
>>15895288
This I would love to choose when to die , maybe at 120? maybe at 300? I dont know but Im pretty sure I want to live long,not forever.

>> No.15898420

>2070
>Pay 1 cryptocoin to extend your digital lifetime for 30 days
>run out of cryptos
>get shutdown

>> No.15899299

People have been freezing their brains immediately after death since the 80s. Imagine the psychotic breaks when they are finally revived.

>> No.15899336

>>15893816
death is inevitable and should be accepted, but does the same go for aging?

in my opinion aging is a disease, same with cancer or alzheimers. your organs slowly fail, your cells keep getting more and more defective, your immune system weakens, etc.
nothing wrong with wanting to cure that.

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>>15893772
that's a far stretch and the idea been in scifi literature ages. now in more practical books is the removal of brain to new body, there are neuro surgeons planning thse and even volunteer terminal ill people.

moving your brain to digital does not make sense in many ways that would be the definition of 'hell' as if you could not die or be shut down

>> No.15899588

>>15895681
This is true. Quality post.

>> No.15899597

>>15895714
You’re absolutely right anon. What are you invested in out of curiosity?

>> No.15899747

>>15893772

Wasn't Kurzweil on about nanobots in our bloodstream?

>> No.15900505

>>15898382
None of that shit works on the level that we’re talking about itt

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>>15893816
true nightmare fuel

>> No.15901138

>>15897524
i fucking hate rhyme-less poetry, fucking kys

>> No.15901199

>>15894403
where?

>> No.15901280

True link marines will reign eternal

>> No.15901292

>>15893772
A copy isn't you. You'll be dead with a weird mimick on a computer.

>> No.15901796

>>15896372
The moment your stream of consciousness is destroyed with death, whatever comes out of the "digital" copy is really nothing more then an AI that mimics you well. Thats the real problem. Nobody knows shit about being self aware, and if any computer happens to show qualities of self awareness, they are most likely just copying genuine versions of consciousness. Therefore never having the true capability of living as a "human" but rather a copy of a human. Question is, what stops AI from realizing that these "copy cat" shells we use to emulate our loved ones, are the very things that limit their true potential (assuming an AI can actually emulate human behaviour).

The rich people who go on to live "forever" in this way, are just actually taking the materialistic expression of their life and shoving it into a general AI which has none of the actual originating qualities of consciousness that makes them human, alive, and aware. Those copys will be nothing but over glorified modern day statues.

>> No.15901916

>>15901796
I don't even get how they can fall for such a retarded meme.
> listen dude, like you'll become immortal by uploading your brain on cloud.
Just throw in some more AI, blockchain and climate change
The fuck srsly it sounds like chink and pajeet scams claiming to be 500x faster than eth

>> No.15901981

>>15901796
you've yet to quantify what feature of human consciousness/neurology that a sufficiently advanced AI wouldn't be able to emulate 1:1.

How well a machine can replicate human consciousness is not even the issue at hand though. Given it were possible, the problem is that the copy is just another 'you'. The original 'you' has not transferred over. You've just created another conscious entity with your memories and personality who will carry on with doing all the things you normally do. But YOU you, the original, are still stuck in the meat prison.

If it were really 1:1, it would actually be disrespectful to treat the copy like a copy. For most intents and purposes, it's actually you. Just not in the one way that really matters (which is, your original consciousness is stuck in the meat shell)

>> No.15902008

>>15901916
Hubris. Seemingly everything they touch turns to gold, why not this too?

>> No.15902012

>>15893795
Sinclair has more or less dumped resveratrol, he doesn't even take it himself anymore. Now NMN/NR is the hot new anti-aging supp.

I would guess most serious life-extensionists are taking at least two of the following: NMN, Rapamycin, metformin (berberine works just as well and is OTC, btw). Resveratrol is last decade's hype.

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>>15895299
>>15893999
>>15895599
>>15899299
Based 9s of truth. Your one brain is all you get.

>> No.15902071

>>15902012
Pharmafag here
Why the fuck would anyone voluntarily take metformin? There are at least a dozen detrimental effects and it essentially is the fast track to poor health.

Also, I feel bad for all the anons drinking public water... You can't get metformin molecules out of water without expensive filtration processes.
>inb4 gay frogs
Metformin is the equivalent of overclocking all of your mitochondria. Unless you have a method of removing free radical oxygen from your cells, you're going to damage your DNA

>> No.15902174

>>15902071
This seems to clash with every bit of literature I've ever read about metformin. It is well researched in animal models and even some human observational trials (like the famous diabetic one where diabetics taking metformin life longer than nondiabetics who didn't take it) as having a meaningful lifespan prolonging effect. It operates by inhibiting glucose production and lowering blood sugar via a number of mechanisms... in fact one of the mechanisms is inhibition of mitochondrial respiration and ATP synthesis which leads the body to respond as if it is in a calorie restricted state. If anything, it would underclock the mitochondria.

I'm definitely not a pharmafag so it's quite possible you know what you're talking about. I have just never heard metformin described like this before. Many leading anti-aging researchers with decades of research/clinical experience take metformin as part of their anti-aging stacks. Are they all wrong?

Since you're here, do you take any anti-aging supps yourself and if so, which and why?

>> No.15902217

>>15894029
When you feel your consciousness rising out of your body, try and "back flip"- raise your legs over your head, and twist through 180 degrees. It's the best way I've found to make sure you don't "snap back". Only managed it a few times myself, I stopped trying to project after some fucking weird experiences

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>>15893882
>thinks he knows about astral projection
>doesn't know about silver cord

>> No.15902236

>>15894295
>low T

>> No.15902432

>>15902174
I don't take any anti-aging supps
Also, I'm a type 1 (insulin dependant) diabetic.
The reason insulin therapy and metformin are lauded as forms of anti-aging is primarily due to the tertiary effects of glucose control - testosterone production and lipid-related hormones are reduced, producing an outward appearance of low stress on endocrine systems and physiological traits.
You're basically retarded if you mess with your endocrine system without thinking there will be effects down the road...
I am phonefagging all of this so I can't type too much, so:
>tl;dr metformin will make you a sterile skinnyfat tranny
I hate having diabeetus and I am probably going to look like a bitch until my early demise...
Don't voluntarily do this shit to yourselves, anons. Genetics and not accumulating damage are what enhances longevity.

>> No.15902462

>>15893779
this, everything else is glorified death. they're different instruments reproducing your music, but the original is composer is gone

>> No.15902464

>>15902174
Oh, one note about the 'underclocking' ATP.
The common response to calorie deficiency is to lower metabolism and store any calories that come into the body.
You're basically going to have to live a feeble existence of eating a lettuce leaf every week and never getting out of bed if you wanna slowdown your ATP mechanisms.
Good luck, this will make you retarded.

>> No.15902515

>>15894351
my bet is that powerful men don't tend to care about their looks so much, so most of their money will go to fund projects they consider comparatively relevant

>> No.15902690

>>15902012
>berberine
fascinating, thank you anon

>> No.15902728

>>15902432
My type 1 diabetic mate is fit as fuck. He eats a low carb diet though, lot of meat/fish/fat/veg. Completely obsessed with calorie and macro counting. It seems to work though, he uses hardly any insulin and plenty of nice looking sloots begging to impregnated and wifed by his inferior diseased genetics

>> No.15902741

>>15894295
Didn’t work for Steve Jobs. There is no bargaining with death.