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I'm starting a new job at an IT company next week. The office dress code is very casual. Pictures of employees on the site all include t shirts and hoodies, only a few execs wearing collared shirts. When I interviewed, everyone I met just had a t shirt and jeans. What should I wear on my first day? I've been working in fine dining and then finance for most of my working career, always either formal or at the very least business casual. I know the office environment is casual, but as someone new I want to make a good impression and not come off as a slob. I was thinking just wear khakis and a nice flannel? Is anyone going to give a shit? I don't want to dress too nice and come off as a weirdo. Pic related- possible outfit for first day.

>> No.1582877

Dressing casually instantly tells management that you are not management material. First impressions matter. You need to at least dress professionally your first week before everyone realizes you are a degenerate slacker.

>> No.1582885

>>1582877
this

>> No.1582902

>>1582877
Well management here is wearing t-shirts and jeans. I'm not gonna come in wearing a suit like an autist

>> No.1582985

>>1582902
Work boots, Doc Martins are OK, shorts and a muscle shirt. Lots of glittery bling around your neck, and wrists. An oversize gold cross is good. Get some new tats on your neck.

Seriously who cares so long as you bring in a box of donuts or something.

>> No.1582992

>>1582985
I was thinking Daisy Dukes and a low-cut top

>> No.1582997

>>1582863
just wear a nice shirt and either dark jeans or pants. Biz casual is litterally a term

>> No.1583023

>>1582863
>only a few execs wearing collared shirts
Dress exactly like the execs. How you dress is an important signifier as to which office culture you belong.
Dress like a janitor, and everyone will think you're a janitor, dress like management, and you'll subconsciously be viewed as such.

>>1582902
>Well management here is wearing t-shirts and jeans.
Then dress exactly like the best-dressed of them is dressed. You don't need to wear a suit, but always look important.

>> No.1583066

>>1582863
This is really something you should ask them after you already signed your contract.

If you can't bring yourself to do that, show up in a full suit for the first day and then try to blend in with your group afterwards.

>> No.1583118

I don't understand why people care what their employees wear.

Anyway, I'd probably lie in the bushes with a pair of binoculars, just to be safe.

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>>1583023
>Then dress exactly like the best-dressed of them is dressed

Thanks. This has always been my strategy in the past and it's served me well every time, from restaurants to Wall St... Just a little uncomfortable as I've never worked in an office this casual before. Feels like a trap or something lol. Thanks!

>> No.1583138

>>1583066
>This is really something you should ask them after you already signed your contract.

I did. They said to dress casual.

>If you can't bring yourself to do that, show up in a full suit for the first day and then try to blend in with your group afterwards.

Wow that is horrible advice.

>> No.1583142

>>1583118
1) It establishes basic culture and tone for the work place
2) It sets basic personal care standards
3) It sets a minimum standard for professionalism

If you have to sit next to and/or interact with others in an office all day, you don't want to deal with slobs, people who shower twice a week, or bring clients around people wearing rags.

Sure, Silicon Valley has made its fashion statement of thumbing its nose at professional dress wear, but it hasn't really caught on elsewhere.

>> No.1583179

>>1583142
So with no rules, people become monkeys?

Christ, I don't understand America at all

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>>1583142
>So with no rules, people become monkeys?

We are all monkeys at heart.

>> No.1583185

>>1582863
I wear jeans a plain shirt, and an unbuttoned button up shirt with the sleeves rolled up.

That is business casual for me, and no boss has ever complained.

Hell at my new job people wear shorts and I still wear my jean combob just to look "fancy".

That shirt better be buttoned up for the interview tho.

Jeans help when the assholes drop the office temp to 68.

>> No.1583189

>>1583138
I wouldn't say horrible

I did that once at an office that strictly wore shorts and flip flops.

I became known as "the suit" even though I only ever wore it once, people would even come to me with problems sometimes.

>> No.1583200

>>1583179
>So with no rules, people become monkeys?
Unfortunately, yes.

Thankfully, the worst offenders I've dealt with are college kiddies on babby's first job who think it is okay to show up a business casual office in jeans and a t-shirt or the frat bro with noticeable BO (having to talk to these kids about hygiene is horribly awkward). My friends in civil agencies deal with much worse.

The amount of tolerance really depends on the company. I was once sent home from an interview once because I wasn't wearing dress loafers. I explained to them that I couldn't afford them with the suit. They proceeded to not give a shit and sent me packing anyway.

>> No.1583235

>>1583200
>having to talk to these kids about hygiene is horribly awkward

God it really is awkward. I used to work on a trading floor with a bunch of Chinese trust fund kids. As part of our desk's onboarding process we would give hygiene lessons. Had to send a few guys home for showing up to work in shorts and shit. Really uncomfortable.