sergey and vitalik discussion panel

[Anonymous No.15803139]

just watched this video here where sergey is talking to vitalik about linking public decentralised networks (ethereum) to private blockchains and other off chain resources. it didnt seem like there has been much discussion at all between the two on this topic at all before now and vitalik seemed very unenthusiastic about the whole thing. it starts at about 33:20 and goes until about 39:50. curious to get other anons’ thoughts about this talk and what it might mean

[Anonymous No.15803176]

>>15803139

sergey's briefly mentioned adding an interoperability solution to chainlink before, i cant remember when, think it was during the berlin eth dev thing ot the one where the host said facebooks the devil or whatever.

[Anonymous No.15803180]

>>15803139
Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.15803196]

>>15803139
Vitalik is not into scams

[Anonymous No.15803210]

Vitalik literally yawning at one point lmao. I've never really watched Vitalik interviews but he might actually have autism, why the fuck can't he speak into the mic properly and why does he set the mic down awkwardly instead of just holding it? He's also fidgeting like a three year old

[Anonymous No.15803230]

>>15803210
vitalik is autistic, he is a high level autist that cant function without his parents, there are a few docus on him out there

[Anonymous No.15803255]

>>15803196
>implying

[Anonymous No.15803260]

>>15803139
Vitapak is a salty, bug eating bitch. Very unprofessional. He needs to stop taking hormones a week or three before going on stage.

[Anonymous No.15803261]

>>15803196
Wrong. OmiseGO

>>15803139
Wrong. Vitalik know exactly what the fuck chainlink is. He’s just a salty bitch that ETH will fail without LINK

[Anonymous No.15803268]

>>15803210
he legit has autism and is a coding savant

[Anonymous No.15803269]

>>15803139

>vitalik seemed very unenthusiastic about the whole thing

Ofc lol.
Hi IQ answer from dude who holds fuckton of link/eth only:

I do get sergeys enthusiasm because middleware linking shit togeather is his core buisness but we want to build shit outside of wall gardens and make them capitulate and want to connect to us not discuss building gates for them at this point in time something like ealy days of private internets and public one. Just imagine protocol builders thinging how to make it easy for AOL so it pumps they bags...

[Anonymous No.15803280]

>>15803210

I honestly think Vitalik is just tired of crypto in general. He thought it would make a better society and it ended up just being a greedier and dumber version of what already exists. I don’t think he cares that much about Ethereum anymore because he knows it’s not going to make the utopia he thought it would originally

[Anonymous No.15803293]

>>15803139
>>15803255
>>BUY LINK
>>ORACLES
>>TECHNOLOGY
>>BLOCKCHAIN
>>ERC20 SHIT TOKEN
>>BUY CHAINLINK
>>SIRGAY IS WELL SPOKEN AND A GENIUS AND CREATED BITCOIN
>>WE ARE NOT A CULT
>>BELIEVE IN VAGUE UNDERSTANDINGS
>>A BLOGPOST MADE US PUMP
>>SIBOS, NEXT EVENT, NEXT MONTH, $10, $100, $1000, $10000, $100000, ETC, ETC
>>INSIDER THREAD, BELIEVE ME, NOT PAID BY CHAINLINK TO PROMOTE, BELIEVE ME
>>CHAINLINNK NOT UNDER INVESTIGATION FROM SEC
>>DEVS ARE DUMPING, NO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVING IT TO START-UPS
>>IT WILL CHANGE YOUR FUCKING LIFE MAN, ALL IN
>>GET YOUR ENTIRE FINANCIAL FUTURE ON THIS, COME ON MAN
>>COME ON THIS TITANIC WITH USSSS, REEEE, WHY AREN'T YOU BUYING OUR BAGGGSSSS!

[Anonymous No.15803303]

>>15803261
>>15803269
>>15803280
>>just believe
>>trust me the source
>>weird esoteric shit that has nothing to do with tech
>>trust me it'll take off
>>it'll moon anytime
>>it'll be worth 42,000,000 per link easily
>>billions on billions marketcap, zero risk goy!
>>overthrowing jews and globalism
>>muh cope
>>muh hiring team
>>muh partnerships
>>muh dderivatives
>>muh radio silence means it's coming, next month!
>>muh, muh, muh

all we ever hear from you faggots

[Anonymous No.15803318]

>>15803293
>>15803303
Trying too hard bru.

[Anonymous No.15803324]

>>15803303
Kek. Vitalik is that you? You fudding bitch.

Link 1k eoy

[Anonymous No.15803348]

thanks for the answers, i thought vitalik and sergs would have at least been in touch before this given the importance of the two projects so this was very strange to see, sergey gently trying to get a discussion going and vitalik almost seeming like he wants to avoid talking about it at all.

>>15803293
wow autism can truly be a blessing or a curse

[Anonymous No.15803362]

>>15803139
Vitalik isn't generally enthusiastic about tokens that haven't given him an advisory bribe. I have noticed this for years.

[Anonymous No.15803387]

>>15803280

This desu, also he knows Sergey is in bed with corporates and Vitalik doesn’t like that .

[Anonymous No.15803389]

>>15803303
>we
you have to go back nigger

[Anonymous No.15803433]

>>15803362
Ya, like when he had a problem with Chainlink for raising so much money in their ICO, but then didn't have any problem with Kyber who raised almost twice as much right after Link.

[Anonymous No.15803481]

>>15803433
really makes you think
also checked

[Anonymous No.15803525]

I watched this and felt similarly. However, it sounded like Vitalik's alternative to using an oracle is to use a light token with merkle trees, but this doesn't solve the issue of introducing legacy applications to smart contracts. I do get the impression that Vitalik for one reason or another does not like Chainlink. I think he's just sort of narrow minded at times. He is fully autistic, after all.

[Anonymous No.15803581]

>>15803139
Money Belly > Money Skelly

[Anonymous No.15803588]

>>15803525
He does not like it because he fears it. Imagine being this tormented skeleton who’s about to see his whole ego and creation be left in the dust by great PaPa Sergey.

[Anonymous No.15803608]

>>15803525
Vitalik knows very well oracles are the bitch's tits for external data, he said so himself:

>The most common case that will appear in reality is the case of external data (...) In this case, oracles are absolutely necessary.
https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/22/ethereum-and-oracles/

[Anonymous No.15803637]

>>15803139
money skelly knows mETH won't be ready in time for link. he doesn't want them slowing it down.

[Anonymous No.15803667]

>>15803608
then why does he pretend here that all worthwhile data is already on a chain? not sure what his angle is.

[Anonymous No.15803669]

>>15803387
After all vitalik is an unironic neo communist. Sirgay using his creation and crushing his hopes and dreams of a centralized regulated shitchain must hurt him physically. I wouldn't wonder about vitalik committing suicide if LINK succeeds, abandons eth and let it back as an obsolete legacy dlt

[Anonymous No.15803674]

>>15803588
checked and kekd. if that the case then we can see also that sergey is a gracious man

[Anonymous No.15803744]

>>15803667
oh, is he suggesting that companies could have their own private chains where all of the worthwhile data is brought in, and then light tokens and merkle trees could be used instead of oracles to interact with the public chain? yeah fine whatever

[Anonymous No.15803800]

>>15803303
nigger

[Anonymous No.15803802]

>>15803387
Isn't skeletor part of Rothschilds foundation board?

[Anonymous No.15803835]

>>15803802
Meant The Rothschild Group

[Anonymous No.15803872]

>>15803588
>He does not like it because he fears it. Imagine being this tormented skeleton who’s about to see his whole ego and creation be left in the dust by great PaPa Sergey.

him nds sergey have beef goin back to nxt vs ethereum way back in the day

[Anonymous No.15803909]

>>15803210

[Anonymous No.15803916]

>>15803280
He know's Ethereum can't scale. It's a dead end project.

[Anonymous No.15803957]

>>15803744
It honestly looks like he's trying way too hard to find the next best thing after oracles. He himself said oracles are "absolutely necessary" for external data like fiat pricing.
He should worry more about PoS and scaling than whatever petty feud he has with Sergey.

[Anonymous No.15803988]

why don't linkies realise trying to smear vitalik reveals them for the desperate newfags they are? methheads didn't trash satoshi to get ahead

[Anonymous No.15804084]

>>15803669
You guys are high, these two have been working together for years, they are both part of the new protocol. Didn't somebody recently post Vitalik moved a huge amount of Link from a wallet?

[Anonymous No.15804098]

>>15803324
>>15803389
>>15803481
>>15803525
>>15803581
>>ironic unironic shitposting, thanks buddy
>>I can’t belive anyone would dislike my 2 year long shitcoin spam campaign laden with newfuck 2016 migrant rebbit memes and overload mannerisms on their only outlet from normie social media
>>I am convinced that 10 people posting jokes is enough to suppress the price of a 1 billion dollar marketcap shitcoin, yes, this is how either important to my shitcoin
>>I find this place or how worthless my shitcoin is due to the fact it can be swayed by 10 nobodies
>>Alright boys! The Fud died down a bit, let's post the same 15 threads again!
>>Pajeet, get your men on it! Keep shilling, keep posting. Form a false groupthink that everyone loves our shittoken, damn the easiest money I've ever made.
>>The irony that paid pajeets shilling some imaginary sirgay skydaddy token with esoteric garbage have the balls to call true-blooded europeans posting here pajeet
>>shit streets shitting up this board

[Anonymous No.15804109]

>>He walks into your room, belt buckle undone with mcdonalds grease glistening his hairy chest
>>He loosely flings off his daily steve jobs plaid shirt
>>You brace yourself uncomfortable, the binds keeping you shackled spread eagled on the floor

"yes master, nulinkers deserve death. they are just trying to buy this synth-russian vaporware dogshit token on the low by fudding a chinese CCP fly-fishing counter protestor forum. not like your browse it master or have any fucking semblance of a fatass walrus scammer mindset."

He smiles.

He slowly walks over to you.

"And what do you say to the deceivers?"

"You'll never buy sub one dollar again! Nice try, didn't read, not selling! been holding for 700+ days. imma just keep buying like the dumb dipshit pig i am. it'll eventually work out no matter what because im too stupid to understand economics and i compare this opportunity to ethereum cuz im a fat, fucking retarded pig that loves to pay for your expenses and vacations"

He assumes the position now, a chair on top of your bare naked chest. He grunts and let out a massive fart.

"That's right... I've been holding it for 700,000 blocks, it's nice and hot and stinky..." He trails off, a distant look in his eyes as he glances and looks at all the chainlink posters in the room.

He grunts and out comes, a fat nasty shit on your chest.

"Another 700k, dumped. Take it in your GPI."

"Thank you master, partnership confirmed. To the moon!"

[Anonymous No.15804114]

He inhales deeply then takes out a Cuban cigar. Lighting first a $100 bill then using it light the cigar. You can smell the ashy scent lingering in the room as the smoke drifts up.

"Th-they said... $32 million dollars isn't worth my Oracle solution, that skinny, pedophile, meth, twink vitamin can kiss my neet asshole. when the verizon singular happens, everyone will know...."

"No master, let me kiss your whale 65% ass. Dump it on me. I'll wait for the singularity."

"How about this singularity marine!" He screams as a shit flies out onto your chest.

Retarded delusions creep your mind as the raw gas of his asshole makes your delirious, you prepare yourself for the joy. you pucker up and smooch sirgay's asshole, the sharpie still twitching in your little link boipucci.

"Just imagine all the data being sanitized by reputation, like Uber. No sybil attacks, all ERC20 based."

He lets out another fart and grunts again.

"Another 700k!"

You shout ecstatically, "build that oracle solution, buy that towncrier! hire more devs!"

"I've give you something to cry about" He replies. Once more he grunts again and shits a violent flow of diarrhea, this time getting on your chin and lip.

"Hey man, where's the bathroom?"

"Oh sorry bro! we're jus-just doing a little thing here, we're actually the link conference here, bathrooms are to your right."

"uhhhhhhhhhhh" says the confused onlooker as he quickly scuffles away.

"I'll shill for you Master!" As you cry out, the sloppy heap of shit covering your body as it slides down.

"1k EOY is FUD!"

"No... I will give you the fud." He grunts again and proceeds to let out a gassy fart.

"Another 700k!" He cries out as he lets his sweet, hairy cheeks flap as another shit dumps out.

"Di-di-", the shit overflowing your mouth, "d-didn'... arghhh, didn't read, not selling"

[Anonymous No.15804115]

>>15803139
>linking public decentralised networks
NOT ethereum... you pathetic mongloidian subtle eth pajeet-shill.
>vitalik bored
wrong faggot. he is increasingly desperate and scared because
>linking public decentralised networks
means multiple different smart contract platforms. you know it, everybody knows it, your consensys handlers know it.
>blockchain agnostic fuckwad
dear sir gay, why do you have to be platform neutral?
kindly & your bitch forever,
skelly

[Anonymous No.15804124]

>>15804084

It was just a wallet from the genesis block not necessarily Vitalik’s wallet .

[Anonymous No.15804132]

"Yeah, you like it linklet don't you? Who's my little marine? im about to sibos you up boy!"

"I am your pay pig NXT master, proud to be a link marine, I've been collect since thirty cents. Please... sir... I am a corporal rank bitch pay pig in your dungeon of neets, please Binance me again. im too fucking stupid to think for myself and will just keep buying your perpetual motion machine scam."

He pauses, inhales and yells "link 1000 eoy" as another turd mutters it's way out.

"Another 700k for expanding the team, Master?"

"No. For this expansion." He shits again as he groans. "All of these tokens need to go to startups, Sibos loved us so much, they didn't invite us back ever because they just can't handle their love for us."

"A Cambodian basket weaving fisherman enthusiast form is all I need for financial advice."

just then, a fat greasy figure appears in the door way, "Sirgay, you dipshit two-bit hack, where's my money!"

"I'm sorry Ari, I've spent it all on ughhhhhhhhhh! Sp-spen-spent it all on paid promotions and shadow networking to promote my literal shittoken."

"Well dump some more and then buy my company, you dumb faggot slav"

"yes master" sirgay puffs up his chest as ari leaves the room and begins to recite.

"You see, you can't pull data onto the blockchain, it's impossible, no one would ever create a simple contract to query Google."

You smile. "Yes Master, I'm your paypig. All FUD is actually from other chainlinkers. These magical whales are trying to suppress the price."

"No... I will suppress the price.... rgghhhhhh ahhhhh arghhhhh..."

"Thank you master. Web3, sibos, truffle, I will follow it all and I promise to scrounge up what little money I have to throw at this fancy database contract while you dump 700k, thank you Master! I'm a stupid fucking loser neet that thinks the 2017 pump and constant shilling means an actual project and not a skeleton of a copy-cat of other bullshit projects before. I'm a dumbass NEET and I don't know any better"

[Anonymous No.15804141]

>>15803637
which is why he is scared

[Anonymous No.15804147]

>>15804084
Are you new? Vitalik and the inner kike circle of the meth foundation have been butthurt ever since they realized what stinkies are and passive agressively bitching about it. Sirgay is acting too capitalistic for their taste and they are well aware that they cannot control smartcontract.com. Players like E&Y the commie foundation believed would help to get them more control over key industries are flirting with abandoning ship because with stinkies they can be independent of the meth fuckups AND keep their legacy systems.

[Anonymous No.15804162]

"Some faggots on a mongolian horse fishing competitive forum are tired of chainlink. Clearly they are bag holders and not just tired of the constant paid promotion that I was caught doing with literal indians to get this thing up. And it's not like I saw airdrops took off on 4chan and quietly plotted to create my own with my coworkers and came up with the first idea that popped into my head... I am a genius... arghhhhh"

"Another 700k master! Thank you, I will await September $10, October $10, November $10 and on and on. September$10 is right, 42 is right, every other namefag is right, I just have to keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting, just keep waiting..."

"Yeah and the fucking SEC is on my ass but they can kiss my ass"

"no master I will kiss your ass and make dumb founded accusations at all the partnerships that are possible because you came up with some vague notion of data inter-weaving with smart contracts despite the fact that real time blockchain data aggregation is either impossible, will leave room for error or a reputation based system will endorse corruption thus rendering the entire idea of decentralized oracles entirely moot."

"No you idiot! No company will ever conceive their own oracle for their real-time needs, they're going to use our massively inflated shittoken linked to a bloated ethereum blockchain protocol to try and float open public transactional volume that will allow for data corruption or worse yet, middlemen attacks because I said so. You're the dumbass NEET and your money belongs to me... meee..meee!!! arghhhh!"

"Another 700k Master!" By now, the dumps are covering your chest and slipping onto the cellophane beneath your back. The gassy farts have made you delirious with joy. "Name me one other token that has it's marketing done for it by NEETs"

"Arghhhhh! Another 700k!"

[Anonymous No.15804206]

>>15804162
lol... obsessed and reddit-hivemind-pilled. just look at you reddit, sweet jesus. OBSESSED

[Anonymous No.15804212]

>>15804098
holy shit are you ok?

[Anonymous No.15804495]

Wait is Vitalik commies or ancaps I can't tell anymore?

[Anonymous No.15804505]

>>15803909
lol u have the one of him playing with his dick

[Anonymous No.15804554]

>>15803387
This is the real reason. Vitalik and ETH devs thought crypto would be its own ecosystem which would replace legacy finance. It's clear by now that's not happening (at least not anytime soon). Chainlink is exactly what connects legacy to blockchain and gives the traditional gatekeepers the upper hand again.
If Vitalik wasn't autistic, he would realize this is the only way forward. If (((they))) don't get their piece of the pie, crypto isn't going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.15804574]

>>15804505

[Anonymous No.15804618]

>>15803230
This. The only person on that stage not on the spectrum was Dawn Song. Sergey is next, but look at some of the weird shit he does with his hands or when Vitalik is speaking and he just loses focus altogether to peel a sticker off his shirt then crumples it up and stuffs it behind him.

Vitalik really is likely autistic or has severe asperger's. Jae Kwon has some weird disassociative narcissistic shit happening.

[Anonymous No.15804627]

>>15803362
>Vitalik isn't generally enthusiastic about tokens that haven't given him an advisory bribe
This. Skelly is an absolute chad but his endorsement means absolutely nothing after he omisegooked so many of his fans.

[Anonymous No.15804673]

>>15804206
>>15804212
You mariners are subhuman pieces of shit that have devoid any other coin of a real chance. You fell for lies and scams of a literal russian neckbeard and proceeded to advance in tech you didn't understand. your money alone is what has advanced this nepotistic fat fucking asshole. you alone have pumped this piece of shit and alone on your backs he has cashed out. be realistic. look at the world for what it is. you really think this fat mongoloid didn't browse the forums here? you really think you just found a fucking token? bitch please, you got lulled in day one by these fat fucks and other anons and then the meme became a dream and now it's crashing. you faggots deserve whats coming, a literal exit and the rest of your tendy money crashing into the sea. fuck you all.

[Anonymous No.15804746]

>>15803303
>>15804098
>>15804109
>>15804114
>>15804132
>>15804162
>>15804673
Vitalik please

[Anonymous No.15804755]

>>15804746

god damn it sirgay shut your fat fucking mouth and buy my eth bags

[Anonymous No.15804847]

Vitalik also didn't believe in ETH being worth this much and sold most of his stack way too early. The kid is a genius in terms of developing, but is seriously mentally retarded about anything related to real value and financial stuff.

[Anonymous No.15804958]

>>15804847
>doesn’t believe ETH is worth much
Sounds pretty smart to me

[Anonymous No.15805502]

>>15803909
Jesus fucking Christ. Why the fuck does anyone bow down to this fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.15805572]

>>15803608
>The most common case that will appear in reality is the case of external data (...) In this case, oracles are absolutely necessary.
https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/22/ethereum-and-oracles/

Please copypasta $LINK $1000 EOY

[Anonymous No.15805725]

>>15803387
100% this, I might even be looking into it a bit much, but it comes across in the way vitalik talked about security and underhandedly saying "we don't need oracles" while sergey is earnestly trying to figure out how to better developers' lives but also he pointed out to that guy at the end how the reason we don't see open-source hardware is that it is a manufacturing issue, and is too costly to do, and isn't just "3 friends get together and code [an open source project]" after that guy was going on about a pie in the sky idea of "open source hardware is when we're really taking this space seriously" or whatever. Kind of indicating Sergey's more realistic, grounded approach as opposed to weird techno-communist idealism present in other blockchain projects, but in particular, Ethereum.

[Anonymous No.15806645]

>>15804618
good psychological analysis of the speakers

[Anonymous No.15806705]

>>15803909
what a complete retard lmfao

[Anonymous No.15806736]

>>15803139
someone farted at 36:34

[Anonymous No.15806751]

>>15803303
Fuck off nulinker

[Anonymous No.15806850]

>>15803139
...and here's the URL: https://youtu.be/FdiJCvYfVHQ

[Anonymous No.15806877]

>>15803909
this is the new RMS eating shit from his foot, isn't it

[Anonymous No.15806885]

>>15803909
>>15804574
imagine investing in this absolute retard

[Anonymous No.15806898]

>>15803525
wtf is he even talking about? isn't an oracle required by definition to get data on chain?

[Anonymous No.15806900]

betas jealous to Alpha Vitalik

[Anonymous No.15807035]

Vitalik
>oracle is no needed
Sergey
>makes sense
The moment sergey realized no one needs oracles.

[Anonymous No.15807055]

>>15807035
literally this
i sold

[Anonymous No.15807057]

>>15807035
sergey is a fat fucking russian scam pig and i can't wait till the SEC bends him over a barrel.

[Anonymous No.15807066]

>>15806850
vitalik may be smart, but he is obviously still a child

[Anonymous No.15807087]

>>15807035
lol this was pretty funny but i think he was just trying to remain civilized.

>>15806898
i'm guessing that the idea would be for the off chain data to be put onto a private chain, at which point it could be communicated with public chains via light tokens and merkle trees. i'm probably misinterpreting this but that's what i'm hearing. Chainlink would still benefit from not requiring a company to manage their own private ethereum chain. i'm really just making stuff up. i'd like for the two of them to get into the octagon and beat the shit out of each other to settle this i guess is what i'm saying.

[Anonymous No.15807103]

>>15807087
>i'm guessing that the idea would be for the off chain data to be put onto a private chain, at which point it could be communicated with public chains via light tokens and merkle trees
you need to question why vitalik is so resistant to oracles

>we have a proven working solution that perform this task
NO, we can do it another more complex way, that creates a technical and administrative nightmare for our customers

[Anonymous No.15807131]

Sergey is such a fucking cringey scrape. I wonder how much he paid to be there. Nobody gives a shit about this 2-year-gone vapourware ‘system’ and linkoids need to stop laughing at funny frog pictures to realise this.

[Anonymous No.15807133]

>>15807103
>you need to question why vitalik is so resistant to oracles
i sincerely cannot figure it out lol

[Anonymous No.15807141]

Vitalik seems viscerally irritated by Chainlink

[Anonymous No.15807152]

>>15807141
Vitalik knows a scam when he sees one. He was among the first people to call Bitconnect out for being a ponzi.

[Anonymous No.15807159]

>>15807087
>at which point it could be communicated with public chains via light tokens and merkle trees
maybe brainlet but isn't this shit data that exists external to the public chain, data which can only be acknowledged by the public chain via blockchain middleware?

[Anonymous No.15807161]

>>15804574
Every time I see this video of him grabbing his dick in the middle of an interview I lose my shit. THE CHAD VITALIK WHO GRABS HIS DICK ON CAMERA

THX BOUGHT 100K ETH

[Anonymous No.15807181]

>>15807159
so, the "light token" would be used to communicate between private chains and the public chain, and verification would happen using merkle trees. again, i am probably misunderstanding this. this requires maintenance of a private chain as well as developing the callbacks between the private and public chain, which probably most people don't want to do. if this is such a great idea i'm curious as to why nobody is doing it. i own a shitload of ETH and LINK so i'll be fine either way but i'd prefer to not be BTFO with LINK so yeah fuck me for being too dumb to handle this.

[Anonymous No.15807216]

>>15807057
Chainlink somehow rated a 2 on CRC.

[Anonymous No.15807222]

lmao Sergey comes off like such a sycophant in this vid. anything for big daddy Vitalik to notice him, praise him. He'd probably let Vitalik fuck him in the ass without a rubber if it meant he'd throw him a "good job" after he was done.

[Anonymous No.15807224]

i assume vitalik might be dissapointed to find ethereum become just another cog to even more efficiently move money into the hands of the financial elite, which chainlink will probably allow

[Anonymous No.15807234]

>>15807222
he's just being polite, how are you supposed to react to someone as autistic as vit who has an aneurysm every time oracles are mentioned without looking like an asshole

[Anonymous No.15807242]

>>15807181
>Requires maintenance of the private chain
Bingo, and who would maintain the chain? Some of Vitaliks crownies. Oracles means less influence by the meth foundation, less control by the meth foundation means meth can be replaced with any chain. Meth can't scale, and Vitalik knows it, they need to go "side chain" to keep meth relevant, else, its over for it

[Anonymous No.15807257]

>>15807234
>being polite
"why yes of course, you can sleep with my wife Vitalik. You're absolutely right, I am a limped dick faggy cuckold that can't lease his woman. You're always right Vitalik-kun"
Maybe he can start by not being such a little fucking bitch??

[Anonymous No.15807258]

>>15807242
>2l3NGhs4
oh shit it's because consensys has been working for years now helping companies set up their own private chains LMAO

[Anonymous No.15807272]

>>15803139

Fuck. This is fucking tantra and mantras all over again.

Short this shit into oblivion in the long run. These people are literally fucking delusional.

Any mathfag would vomit in torrents after just 5 minutes of listening to this bullshit. Like I do.

[Anonymous No.15807280]

>>15807257
Woof woof anon, who hurt you? Get out of your mother’s basement and see the world, socialize, meet an actual human being not some 45 year old man pretending to be a 13 year old twink on an anonymous Pakistani sheep shearing site

[Anonymous No.15807283]

>>15807257
vitalik is is low T asf and couldn't get a boner if Jennifer Lawrence herself was giving him bj

[Anonymous No.15807305]

vitalik is also probably somewhat miffed that sergey claimed SmartContract.com

[Anonymous No.15807311]

>>15807280
lol imagine investing even a dollar into a product spearheaded by someone as beta as Sergey. Apple's CEO is gay but you know he's the top in the relationship. The alpha. Vitalik destroys Sergey's whole platform, the thing he's been building for the last several years with "muh Merkle trees" and the best Sergey can respond with is "makes sense".

[Anonymous No.15807316]

LINK really does threaten to push ethereum completely out of relevancy, not that i don't own huge stacks of both LINK and ETH

[Anonymous No.15807318]

>>15807257
Bro Vitalik was being a catty bitch the whole time and it's clear to everyone what was going on. He has an overly-ideal vision of what ethereum "should" be that will never fucking happen and here comes Sergey connecting to the real-world using real world language and he's threatened by it. Of course Sergey wants to work with him though, you know, like a professional. He's being generous but ultimately it doesn't matter what Vitalik thinks and that's what makes him angry

[Anonymous No.15807322]

>>15803139
took a,look at vid to see what this Chainlink shit all about
Vitalik and sergey ate literally faggots !
Your gonna get wrecked bitches

[Anonymous No.15807326]

>>15807283
>low T
Do you not see his jawline. Kys idiot

[Anonymous No.15807331]

>>15807258
We have been looking for a solution to the scaling problem on blockchain now for nearly 10 years, and it has been proposed by hundred of peoples, since the beginning, that the solution can literally only be a side chain BUT imo there is actually no scaling problem, because dlt is just a secure ledger, it was never supposed to be a data stream for every fucking coffee purchase.

To put in perspective, it doesn't make much sense to put every single bill from every single purchase at the coffee machine in a company into the final balance sheet, what makes sense, is to gather the accumulation of all coffee purchases and put those into the final balance sheet. Do we need a decentralized coffee machine dlt for that? Hell no. Do we need a secure way to have the coffee machine communicate with the final balance sheet? Not necessarily, but it makes more sense then a coffee machine dlt.

[Anonymous No.15807342]

>>15807326
he's a literal skeleton who subsists off of a a few onionss per week, he's basically pure estro wasting his chad facial structure

[Anonymous No.15807347]

>>15807318
of course he want's to work with Vitalik. anything to bring a semblance of legitimacy to his project. Vitalik is "catty" because he can see right through Sergey. He knows he's a liar and decentralized oracles were never needed.

[Anonymous No.15807350]

>>15807342
>onionss
HAHAHAH
i wrote soilent

[Anonymous No.15807374]

>>15807347
I was kind of hoping you were being serious but in reality I think it could also be that Vitalik wants to keep to his word of not being an "advisor" to projects and hyping them up. Probably both. In reality both of them are alpha in that they're leading great projects but also autistic as fuck, carry on though

[Anonymous No.15807391]

>>15807331
I'm struggling to understand this but...I fail to see how Chainlink is no longer extremely useful in light of private chains being able to communicate with the public chain

[Anonymous No.15807396]

i would probably chop a few of my fingers off for the opportunity to work for Chainlink

[Anonymous No.15807409]

>>15807347
>>15807347
You got it the wrong way. Sergey, like a gentleman, wants to collaborate with all the bright minds in the smart contract space. Vitalik can’t handle the fact that he can’t control the fate of ethereum once chainlink onboards the really big money

[Anonymous No.15807444]

>>15807391
It still is, that is not the issue. But Chainlink doesn't just do dlt to dlt, more important for legacy systems, businesses have built their work processes around for decades, chainlink can do legacy system to dlt, which makes all the coffee machine side chain dlts obsolete

[Anonymous No.15807461]

>>15807152
So that’s why he showed up right? Right.

[Anonymous No.15807464]

>>15804098
imagine being so angry over an allegedly irrelevant shitcoin that you don't hold, while also being too retarded to figure out how filters work so he feels personally tormented by link threads

A+ please always stay here, this is where you belong.

[Anonymous No.15807483]

>>15807444
is it not obvious that a method of communication between legacy systems that have been around for decades and smart contracts on the public ethereum network would allow for great innovation in the financial world? is there a way that legacy systems/data could be onboarded to private chains that could then communicate with the public chain without using LINK? i need to sleep but yeah, obviously i need to learn more, just too busy.

[Anonymous No.15807487]

>>15807461
Vitalik probably showed up to pound out some sideways vagina. Saw the opportunity to quite literally cuck Sergey and said why not?

[Anonymous No.15807511]

>>15806850
Sergey seems mildly annoyed--he shouldn't have to be an emcee at this kind of panel, and he knows it.
I remember Dawn Song's company being a competitor to Chainlink, is this still the case?

[Anonymous No.15807520]

>>15807409
This is true--Vitalik is an anti-corporate utopian, and Sergey is a realist who is about to dominate the Ethereum network traffic with a use case for big business

[Anonymous No.15807533]

>>15807483
>is there a way that legacy systems/data could be onboarded to private chains that could then communicate with the public chain without using LINK?
Highly unlikely. It is the vechain delusion. The idea that a business that has been around since the 19th century will just in 5 years switch all their work processes to a completely new system, especially if there is a solution to leverage the new system without having to implement it oneself. It is the oracle problem, and Sirgay solved it.

[Anonymous No.15807580]

Is this why we pumped ?

[Anonymous No.15807586]

>>15807483
I want to know this too. My brainlet sense is that a private chain which already contains external data can relay that information to the public chain without the use of oracles, probably how Vitalik grumpily describes it.

And the private chain can contain external data owned and authorized by a particular company that wanted to put that data on their chain. In which case they act as their own oracle and don’t require a third party oracle service.

But the really interesting data, the stuff that requires an impartial third party to verify so that all the participants trust its accuracy- that still needs an oracle a la chainlink. This is the only data that is really important to be onchain because money is on the line and depends on what this data is, and everyone knows that no one should conceivably be able to tamper with it. You can’t just Merkle tree that, and the fact that Vitalik doesn’t explain himself and give credit to this important component-really the crux of all meaningful data on chain- tells me he’s really afraid of and pissed at what is about to happen

[Anonymous No.15807623]

>>15807586
>Why not put weather data on the blockchain
that is the Craig solution
>Lets make chains for everybody our people control
That is the Vitalik solution
>Lets have a way to put external data onto dlts
That is the Sirgay solution

Ask yourself the following, if you were a business with tb of data gathered over decades; would you rather put it on a dlt and be completely dependent on it to be maintained, would you like to have somebody built you your own dlt and have to transfer it all on that, or would you like to keep your database and just have it communicate with any chain you want to communicate with.

[Anonymous No.15807628]

>>15807586
Vitalik is absolutely fuming if he's not an imbecile, which frankly he's not. He thought he'd banished Sergey to obscurity when Ethereum became the mainstream smart contracts platform over Sergey's NXT. But Sergey beat Vitalik to the punch for the singular thing which allows smart contracts to enter common use: The framework for a decentralized oracle network. To add insult to injury, Sergey did this by positioning Chainlink as a legacy systems middleware system between non-chain and blockchain technology, which means big business gets an in, using Vitalik's own platform, on the tech which Vitalik built precisely to cuck BigCorp.

[Anonymous No.15807658]

>you now realize Vitalik is literally much, much smarter than Sergey
>you now realize Vitalik doesn't think Oracles are necessary

>you now realize Sergey is trying to solve a "problem" that doesn't need solving

[Anonymous No.15807721]

>>15807035
time code for this please

[Anonymous No.15807752]

>>15807658


>>15807628

[Anonymous No.15807769]

>>15807658
In addition, smart guy Vitalik thinks ethereum is worth like 5 dollars right? You might say "hurr it is" even though it was valued at over a grand briefly

so appeal to intellectual authority doesn't really work here when we're talking about valuations, does it?

[Anonymous No.15807800]

>>15807623
I think it's more of a difference in philosophy between Vitalik and Sergey. Sergey understands the money making part of the business really well. He understands the steps necessary to get big players in the crypto space, and ultimately make you and I money.

Vitalik is more of a liberal computer nerd. He understands the coding aspect of the blockchain space. Possibly better than anyone.

So when Vitalik talks about yeah you can use light client this, you don't need an oracle that, he's only speaking in terms of solving the problem programatically. Maybe you don't need an oracle, but you expect these large insurance companies to just let you build "light clients" on their databases and essentially run them out of business? It's like Vitalik has no concept of economics at all. Where on the other hand, Sergey really shines in this aspect.

[Anonymous No.15807803]

>>15804574
Is that girl sitting next to him glancing in the direction of his ctotch while he plays with himself? She is definitely thinking wtf in her head

[Anonymous No.15807804]

>>15807769
>imagine buying this turd for over $5

[Anonymous No.15807813]

>>15807721
35:00
desu the ETH community's complete dismissal of Chainlink over the course of months has bothered me. I'm not a maximalist for Link or Ethereum, I like both, not married to either. But Ethereum has had a long standing history of pettiness (mostly internal), and I see that continuing -- they will bring up oracles if it's related to Maker or Augur, for example. And I know Vitalik is Vitalik, but each time Sergey started responding to him, he literally looked in the opposite direction. Autism or not, that's not only unprofessional, it's straight up rude.

[Anonymous No.15807864]

>>15807813
Did you hear the Wyre podcast with Joey krug the other day? They were discussing oracles at length, (and sure the guy does Augur and has a vested interest in making their oracle solution stick) but he was straight up lying about not seeing any solution to certain problems with oracles that chainlink does really well. Like apparently it takes Augur reporters several days to achieve consensus on an event, and the dude is like “yeah, I don’t see any solution on how to make an oracle that settles a query faster.” Fuckin goober

And then on into the ether that Eric Conner cuck accused chainlink of having a paid shill campaign going, and that’s why all the autists swarm him on twitter, and therefore chainlink ought to be rated highly at risk of being a security.

I listen to a lot of podcasts... anyway

It’s starting to feel like a concerted effort from the ETH inner circle that they have this petty blacklisting campaign going. Just weird behavior, ultimately futile but makes you wonder just what the fuck is wrong with these people?

[Anonymous No.15807876]

Vitalik is terrified of sergey
He had his 15 minutes of fame in the blockchain space thinking it would last forever, now sergey has deep-dicked him
If he were smart and got off his high horse he would be fellating sergey or helping the chainlink team but he's too autistic/insecure for that

[Anonymous No.15807880]

>>15807283
He's not low T. He has a full head of hair and is average height. That dignals high test.

[Anonymous No.15807883]

>>15807804
This exactly. Vitalik wants to do dumb shit like this to scare off big players so he can feel clever. Reality is though is no one is going to use these products on a large scale when three guys in a fucking basement are building them.

[Anonymous No.15807894]

vitalik knows he has been outfoxed by Sergey's approach, and he's bitter about it.
>>15807628
>>15807623

[Anonymous No.15807910]

>>15807283
He's not low T. He has a full head of hair and is average height. That signals healthy test levels. Also his dick is at least average size as we can see him grabbing at it through his sweats when he plays with himself. Large dick is high test.

[Anonymous No.15807933]

>>15807910
High T means you have less T you fuckhead. Low T means more hair.

[Anonymous No.15807964]

>>15807933
You don't know what you're talking about. Men if average height have the lowest rates of balding and the largest dicks. Large dick size is directly correlated with high test. Studies have shown that administering test on people with hair growth problemd causes hair growth in beth men and women.

[Anonymous No.15807966]

>>15807800
I even doubt at this point that he understands the coding aspect that well - the scaling problem has been known since the very beginning, and it was known that if dlt wants to have any chance to be relevant, it needs to be solved, the one or the other way, Vitalik completely failed to tackle this issue and just seems to repeat what has been thrown around as possible solutions since the early 10's, same as with solving the insular issue of dlt, nothing new from him or the meth community, just same old shit recooked, with no real implementation of a solution to any of those problems.

Also eth becoming the mainstream smart contract platform has less to do with how good eth is and more with what defined the 2017 bubble, hype and delusional marketing. In a space that would have been driven by the idea of really getting smart contracts and dlt into real business a shitshow like solidity would have stood no chance. In all honesty, for the future of dlt, smart contracts and trustless information transfer, I hope eth disappears together with btc and all actors involved, that certainly made big bank on hype and keeping the space back, and are either dealt with through legislators and the juridical system or by simply seeing their investments, do to real progress and solutions disappear in obscurity.

[Anonymous No.15807975]

>>15807964
ball size, not dick

[Anonymous No.15807977]

>>15807964
bullshit there is a reason people are given finasteride for fucking hair loss you stupid fuck.

[Anonymous No.15807989]

>>15807975
Wat? High test is directly correlated with large dick size though. That's a fact.

[Anonymous No.15807997]

>>15807977
Studies have shown hair growth resulting from the administration of test. Test causes hair growth everywhere though not just on the head so they prefer to use other solutions.

[Anonymous No.15808013]

>>15807989
Source?

[Anonymous No.15808016]

>>15807997
they fucking use finasteride dingus to stop dht. TESt converts to DHT or some shit like that. DHT IS BAD.

[Anonymous No.15808022]

>>15806850
Vitaliks hate for sirgay is palpable, the whole video is very awkward, I love it! He is obviously trying to discredit chainlink altogether so as to get another scam out of the industry and legitimize the space more, why else would vitalik spend his time on these panels with sirgay? But also watch as the statement "you don't need a oracle" becomes the shift that sirgays needs to do a full exit from the market claiming that chainlink is "obsolete" and oracles are "outdated techniques" and disappear before the SEC get to him just like with NXT, screen cap this and all that gay shit.

p.s. sirgay is still wearing the same shirt like the clown that he is

[Anonymous No.15808028]

>>15803909
Is this how you mine ethereum?

[Anonymous No.15808045]

>>15803210
Of course he's autistic, like most people that can achieve his level, that's why the scammer known as Craig Wright pretends to be autistic although it's obvious he isn't.

[Anonymous No.15808061]

>>15808016
You have a very light understanding. Dht is produced from very small quantities of test. Pretty much everyone produce enough test where if the body decides to produce too much dht it will cause baldness. Not everyone has enough of the hormone which converts test to dht for it to cause a balding problem all men produce dht though. It grows the prostate. Increasing test in the blood will not increase dht levels in the body as your body converts enough dht from existing test.

[Anonymous No.15808143]

>>15808013

[Anonymous No.15808201]

>>15807066
> vitalik may be smart
Smart people have MIT degrees lmao

[Anonymous No.15808226]

>>15807628

Nothing of what you have shat out is ever existed. Not a single fucking line of code. Now even as a formal specifications.

Ethereum is an amateur hobby project. Outdated and obsolete.

Just this.

[Anonymous No.15808231]

>>15807103
the commie faggot is resistant to chainlink because it is an oracle network built for corporates. same way he drags out ETH progress after corporations started taking an interest in it.

[Anonymous No.15808256]

>>15808226
yea ur fuming lad lmao

[Anonymous No.15808268]

>>15808045

[Anonymous No.15808284]

>>15808268
Wow, you totally convinced me, I'm never using a toilet anymore!

[Anonymous No.15808306]

>>15807864
>It’s starting to feel like a concerted effort from the ETH inner circle that they have this petty blacklisting campaign going.
I'm glad you and others have noticed it. I get that they would want to talk down the blatant scams that haven't produced anything but we're way beyond that point.

[Anonymous No.15808350]

Vitalik is too dense to admit he needs Sergey and Chainlink for ethereum to stay relevant

[Anonymous No.15808375]

>>15803196
he's a commie and made the penultimate scam platform
he loves them

[Anonymous No.15808391]

>>15808350
Not too dense. He knows very well, if Chainlink succeeds, eth withers away. And if Eth withers away a lot of individual actors will be left with their pants down and maybe even have problems of legal nature. The mistake the meth junkies did was, they made promises to the wrong people, promises they knew that would be hard to achieve, with one core promise, meth as the only relevant smart contract solution. At this point I just wait for the first big industry names to draw out of the meth foundation and jump on board with IBM or Microsoft and expose eth as what it is, a scam platform of scammers that tried to chew more than they could swallow

[Anonymous No.15808427]

>>15808391
Please explain how decentralized oracles will kill Ethereum. I'm not seeing it. Ethereum has the most industry adoption aside from maybe a private chain like hyperledger but we know that private chains are just being used by businesses as a stepping stone to full public chains like Ethereum.

[Anonymous No.15808457]

vitalik does not hate on other projects. he simply speaks his mind on the questions asked. the fact that he doesn't care about oracles at all is bad news for CL.

[Anonymous No.15808484]

>>15808427
We don’t ‘know’ that about private/public chains; that’s just what public chain advocates/devs wish to be true

[Anonymous No.15808494]

>>15803196
this

[Anonymous No.15808555]

>>15803139
BIG OUCH

[Anonymous No.15808560]

>>15808427
The business model of eth and every project on eth dependent on the survival of eth, as eth solving problems like the insular dlt problem, the scaling problem and so on, is to be THE ONLY DLT. Their hope and the promise they made is that they will somehow solve the issues that have held back the dlt space for years, being unable to deliver, and will somehow force every business that wants to use smart contracts and dlt to be on eth, which is blatantly ignoring micro economic realities and the fact that the issues that prevent legacy companies to get into dlts haven't been solved.

With decentralized, blockchain agnostic oracles, eth has not a chance to reach the monopolistic position it tries to reach and keep the promises it made. If chainlink succeeds, eth, its organization and its way to do business will enter history on how to not do it and leave eth, consensys and its commie foundation with a loss of trust that can never be regained.

[Anonymous No.15808614]

Anyone remember the talk vitalik did that sirgay sat in on and afterwards while the camera was still on you can hear sirgay go up and ask if its possible to make decentralized oracles and vitalik brings up sybil attacks?

[Anonymous No.15808619]

>>15808560
This

[Anonymous No.15808674]

>>15808560
what are the chances CL can deliver on truly decentralised oracles?

[Anonymous No.15808688]

>>15808614
kek

[Anonymous No.15808704]

>>15808484
That's exactly what happened during the dot com bubble when companies were using extranets to wet their feet before using the actual internet. Like the extranet private chains provide a safe testing environment permissioned and only between included organizations. The real money saving cost benefits come from public chains. Companies are wetting their feet first. History rhymes.

[Anonymous No.15808706]

>>15808614
Nice fud. Nobody could actually make out the question sergey asked vitalic though.

[Anonymous No.15808718]

>>15808674
No such thing as truly decentralized trustless oracles as with chainlink uou still have to trust that intel sgx and town crier oracles have been coded properly without any exploitable backdoors.

[Anonymous No.15808740]

>>15808674
Looking at the track record of smartcontracts.com, their work and business ethics, strategic partnerships, networking and money belly acquiring excellent tech and human resources, higher chance than the meth foundation and their open source trannies solving a single one of the problems they are facing
>>15808718
you forgot mixicels

[Anonymous No.15808752]

>>15808560
They won't be the only dlt. No one public blockchain can solve all needs as scaling decentralization and security cannot exist altogether in the same chain. That doesn't mean eth won't be one of the top most used chains though. Eth has the most proof of industry adoption so far. Businesses have spent alot of resources building the future of their busness networks around ethereum. They aren't all going to leave, they will just use more than one dlt chain to meet their business needs.

[Anonymous No.15808773]

>>15808560 #
They won't be the only dlt. No one public blockchain can solve all needs as scaling decentralization and security cannot exist altogether in the same chain. That doesn't mean eth won't be one of the top most used chains though. Eth has the most proof of industry adoption so far. Businesses have spent alot of resources building the future of their busness networks around ethereum. They aren't all going to leave, they will just use more than one dlt chain to meet their business needs. Sergey knows this which is why he chose the native Link token to be an erc token on the Ethereum network. He obviously trusts that Ethereum will survive as a top blochchain.

[Anonymous No.15808784]

>>15808560 # #
They won't be the only dlt. No one public blockchain can solve all needs as scalability, decentralization, and security cannot exist altogether in the same chain. This has been stated by vitalic himself. That doesn't mean eth won't be one of the top most used chains though. Eth has the most proof of industry adoption so far. Businesses have spent alot of resources building the future of their busness networks around ethereum. They aren't all going to just leave, they will just use more than one dlt chain to meet their business needs. Sergey knows this which is why he chose the native Link token to be an erc token on the Ethereum network. He obviously trusts that Ethereum will survive as a top blochchain even if it's not the only chain.

[Anonymous No.15808790]

>>15808560
They won't be the only dlt. No one public blockchain can solve all needs as scalability, decentralization, and security cannot exist altogether in the same chain. This has been stated by vitalic himself. That doesn't mean eth won't be one of the top most used chains though. Eth has the most proof of industry adoption so far. Businesses have spent alot of resources building the future of their busness networks around ethereum. They aren't all going to just leave, they will just use more than one dlt chain to meet their business needs. Sergey knows this which is why he chose the native Link token to be an erc token on the Ethereum network. He obviously trusts that Ethereum will survive as a top blochchain even if it's not the only chain.

[Anonymous No.15808806]

>>15808718
mixincels

[Anonymous No.15808858]

>>15808790
All I see of relevant businesses invested in eth as a tech is Ernst and Young, and nighfall fails if eth doesn't delivers the scaling solution. The rest are a mix of idealistic startups and literal ico scams. Till now eth hasn't even managed to make its own native token erc-20 compatible. Eths pure open source developer model encrusted and controlled by a tax evasion foundation together with individuals unironically believing in the new liberal left one world (world communism) bullshit philosophically is destined to fail from a micro economic perspective. Chainlink will not stay exclusive to eth, and that is what scares the shit out of the whole meth community, one crucial part to keep eth and the actors that depend on eth relevant cannot be controlled by their committees.

I might be wrong, but eth will face the same destiny than btc, legacy tech whose only value is its name recognition.

[Anonymous No.15809083]

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[Anonymous No.15809090]

>>15809083
I think this was Sergers way of showing he was uncomfortable with leading this panel. I think he would have liked to challenge Vitalik more aggressively, but he understood that he wasn't necessarily in the position/place to do so.