/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.15719097]

Does anyone else see the writing on the wall?

[Anonymous No.15719138]

it's reflected on the stock price. EU has negative interest rates b/c the US has positive interest rates; if the US rates go negative all banks run out of funds, and become liquid since they are lending all the money they get from the printing press.

[Anonymous No.15719141]

alarmism

[Anonymous No.15719144]

>>15719097
Been saying it for weeks now and getting told that I don't know what I'm talking about. When Deutsche bank goes down, the entire market will follow. Their exposure is 100X what Lehman had when they went under.

[Anonymous No.15719155]

>>15719138
illiquid

[Anonymous No.15719158]

>>15719144
>Their exposure is 100X what Lehman had when they went under.
can you elaborate?

[Anonymous No.15719170]

>>15719158

[Anonymous No.15719219]

>>15719170
Maybe it wasn't the best idea to have every bank in the world depend on Douchebag Bank

[Anonymous No.15719231]

Does this mean i should take all my cash out of the bank if douche bank fails? Asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.15719268]

>>15719231
lol they won't let you

[Anonymous No.15719277]

>>15719097
You know it, I know it, everybody knows it:

The banks will continue to be bailed out using easy monetary policies (and probably eventual hyperinflation) and haircuts for the middle class until the bottom 99% of people doesn't own any assets anymore, except for debt perhaps.
As soon as there is enough unhappiness among the population about this, the few remaining democratic institutions will have been dismantled and an increasingly authoritarian and militarised state keeps the population under control.

[Anonymous No.15719278]

>>15719097
yes, sell everything!

[Anonymous No.15719279]

>>15719097
Is Merkel still in charge? I thought she got voted out a year ago.

[Anonymous No.15719307]

>>15719219
Oh sweet child, thinking there are multiples banks.

[Anonymous No.15719327]

>>15719097

[Anonymous No.15719589]

>>15719097
When will german women be demoralized enough to marry my fat american ass and push out five kids.

[Anonymous No.15719635]

>>15719327
Bitcoin is not convenient as money. It is merely a gambling asset at the moment, along with alts, even if they have some use.

It's like the dot com bubble. Amazon stock suffered greatly and it took many years to repair it, but ultimately after 10 years or so it recovered into a very profitable and useful company.

[Anonymous No.15719651]

Great who's the next Hitler to put things right?

[Anonymous No.15719764]

>>15719138
If the us goes negative they need to go cashless which means losing the reserve currency status as people in banana republics won't be able to use usd as their saving currency anymore since their governments won't let them.

The eu is forcing the us hand to lower rates by going negative and the us can't do it without destroying the reserve currency status.

It's a shitstorm about to happen in all honestly i don't know what the fuck the people in charge of the eu think they are doing atm.

And the fed is not that better , the fucking retards have been reducing the monetary supply after 3 massive qe programs over a decade , they are going to cause a liquidity crisis and a bubble at the same time something that seems impossible they are doing.

We are in for a shitstorm i am seriously when i tell people to buy bitcoin , the only way they will leave this crap is with a massive inflationary shock.

[Anonymous No.15720017]

>>15719635
It’s not meant as “money” as in spend money. It’s meant to protect your wealth against malicious actors and unrelenting inflation. If you want to spend it like money just convert some of it into a stable coin. There’s plenty of options. This will get easier over time with smart contracts converting on the fly, etc. You will inevitably see institutional alts appearing like libra, but by then you won’t be able to afford btc anymore. Unironically even bullshit like bcash and Bsv might be useful as far as spending money goes but btc will always be the most important base layer of digital gold that can’t be inflated like fiat.

[Anonymous No.15720075]

>be (((banker)))
>tell (((government))) you are broke and catastrophe imminent.
>gov prints, taxes and steals money to give to banker

(((everybody))) wins!!!!

[Anonymous No.15720435]

>>15719764
1 ounce of silver will buy 500 shitcoins

[Anonymous No.15720518]

>>15719138
we found the bottom, easy 10x in the short run for deutsche i hope you been accumulatin

[Anonymous No.15720600]

>>15719651
Sergey is going to gas the swinglinkers

[Anonymous No.15720704]

>>15719589
1946

[Anonymous No.15721524]

[Anonymous No.15721547]

>msm screenshot from 4 weeks ago
>One post by OP¨
>25 replies

[Anonymous No.15721714]

>>15719764
>i am seriously when i tell people to buy bitcoin
you were so close and then you wrote this

[Anonymous No.15721735]

>>15719231
Do it BEFORE it fails.

[Anonymous No.15721843]

>>15719144
you know what youre talking about. the problem is people like you have said the same thing for the last 10 years, and everyone who listened is now poorer because of it.

the broken clocks may soon be right, but they will FUD themselves into poverty long term

[Anonymous No.15721887]

>>15721714
Silver is another great bet anon , i am sick of metards thinking pms are the only thing that will do great in a recession.

Also PMs market is so small that in may countries you can't even buy without spreads of almost 35%.

7 trillion marketcap of gold my ass , yes of paper crap , the real stuff it's a pain in the ass to buy and sell.

That's said silver is a good option ,bitcoin(core) too , monero and litecoin too , gold wll grow too.

>>15719231
Kek the CEO of the biggest bank is literally saying central bankers have lost it , if this is not an alarm i don't know what it is.

>>15721843
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

The us has a bubble and a liquidity crisis at the same fucking time , europe has a slowdown , so does india , turkey , argentina and alot of countries at the moment.

Basically the only solution will be to pump everything maybe direct money printing for infrastructure projects.

[Anonymous No.15721953]

>>15719231

There won't be any fiat worth a damn

[Anonymous No.15722212]

>>15719307
central banks as a pyramid scheme using fronts and secrecy laws to obscure ownership makes this naively evident to me. only the petrodollar exists. is this correct? how else might this be taken? any interesting sources?

[Anonymous No.15722372]

>>15719635
>Bitcoin is not convenient as money. It is merely a gambling asset at the moment, along with alts, even if they have some use.
You don't use Bitcoin for spending day to day, you use it as an asset to preserve your wealth and hedge against the incoming inflation due to the future recession ya ninny.

[Anonymous No.15722563]

>>15719138

Which Shitcoin ist that?

[Anonymous No.15722575]

>>15719097
I do, op.

[Anonymous No.15722631]

>>15719097
>no tools left to "cushion" crisis
>lets have negative interest rates combined with negative economic growth while adding social base unrest, that will work
merkel, the eu and the ezb are the biggest idiots/traitors in modern history. the next crash will lead to massive amounts of inflation or, if not, bankrupt even more shitty unsustainable businesses.

[Anonymous No.15722639]

>>15721887
>Basically the only solution will be to pump everything maybe direct money printing for infrastructure projects.
I'm preparing a big project, how should I access those money pools?

[Anonymous No.15722646]

>>15722631
the fact that thomas cook could fail in an environment with 0% interest rates is indicating how terrible the foundations are this market is built upon.

[Anonymous No.15722649]

>>15719097
Express posting brexit cope news

[Anonymous No.15723345]

>>15722631
>bankrupt even more shitty unsustainable businesses

That's healthy for the economy in general
The only concern is if large numbers of businesses all fail at the same time

[Anonymous No.15723350]

https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI/status/1147878009870983169

[Anonymous No.15723355]

>>15722631
There's one big tool left to cushion the crisis
And when it's forced to cancel brexit it will be turned into a cushion by the eu

[Anonymous No.15723382]

>>15720017
>>15722372
>Btc is a store of value
>Drops 15% in 3min

[Anonymous No.15723397]

>>15723382
>if you cant handle me at my 15% losses, you don't deserve my 600% gains.

[Anonymous No.15723404]

how do I make money out of this as european?

[Anonymous No.15723420]

>>15720017
>It’s meant to protect your wealth against malicious actors and unrelenting inflation.
Assets do not exist for this sole purpose. A "store of value" only exists if it is actually valuable.

[Anonymous No.15723422]

>>15722372
see >>15723420

[Anonymous No.15723465]

>>15719097

In genuinely curious to see if deutschebank will enact bail-in measures. We need more discussion on that topic in the mainstream.

[Anonymous No.15723586]

>D-Deutche will.collapse any day now!

Said the deluded schizo for the millionth time this year

[Anonymous No.15724001]

what the fuck do I do. I live in fucking North Macedonia. I'm not legally allowed to own gold, foreign stocks or bitcoin. My currency is tied to the EURO.If the EU gets fucked up we will probably get fucked up. All I can do is buy swiss francs and hide them under a mattress.

[Anonymous No.15724013]

>>15719141

[Anonymous No.15724025]

>>15722563
DAG

[Anonymous No.15724027]

>>15719097
>Does anyone else see the writing on the wall?
For the euro/EU?
No, not even close
For the UK?
Yes, its done.

[Anonymous No.15724042]

>>15724001
>what the fuck do I do. I live in fucking North Macedonia. I'm not legally allowed to own gold, foreign stocks or bitcoin

and you would if you lived in an EU member state, sort your fucking shithole out

[Anonymous No.15724073]

>>15724001
CHF has risen against the EURO and the dollar a lot since the last financial crisis so if you can't buy gold or silver it might be your best bet

[Anonymous No.15724113]

always surprising how a bunch of dweebs always forget the one example of ongoing qe we have.
look at japan. chances are there won't be any crisis but stagnation

[Anonymous No.15724142]

>>15720075
No one forces you to take those loans goyim, just save for 50 years lol

[Anonymous No.15724159]

>>15722631
We're already in the inflated stage of printing money because they've been doing it for years, it's just materialized in the housing prices and income to price ration in Europe specifically. Lot's of banks will wipe and it will cause deflation, not the other way around. Shitty business will fail because they should because they're shitty, but aren't because people can use loans to buy some things, so they're spending money they don't have that allows them to survive

[Anonymous No.15724176]

>>15724113
Europe has been stagnant for 20 years, the economy is surviving because of the US but no one can tell the future exactly, that's for sure.

One of the guys that shorted 2008 is also shorting the Canada housing market. I think the chances the market gets at least scared are good

[Anonymous No.15724248]

>>15722212
A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind by Stephen Mitford Goodson. That's pretty much all you need to know in a convenient format.

>>15724001
buy the fucking gold elsewhere and hide it. Selling it in any kind of market is not impossible.

>>15724113
I think this is more likely than a full-blown crisis, too. Slow boiling the frogs is preferable in the current climate.

[Anonymous No.15724268]

the whole Db is from Hitler times!! funny thing, the whole eu is excatlty what mr sir Hitler wanted wasn't it? Tell me if i'm wrong, he wanted to unite germany & make germany control the rest of europe... wokring pretty well

[Anonymous No.15724278]

How fucked is the UK on Brexit? Dump all pounds?

[Anonymous No.15724287]

>>15724268
>Thinks Hitler would have been down for mass immigration from non white countries
Maybe you need to read a book or two on Hitlers ideal vision of a unified Germany.

[Anonymous No.15724290]

>>15719651
Ww3 has not happened yet.

[Anonymous No.15724307]

>>15724268
>Tell me if i'm wrong, he wanted to unite germany & make germany control the rest of europe...
I think you're making a colossal mistake by assuming that any EU politician has national loyalties anymore. They're In it to profit from globalism, not to help their country or people. Whatever "Germany" is making from EU or euro benefits is only funnelled to the elites while the population slaves away under increasingly precarious conditions and without a lot of wealth to show for it.

[Anonymous No.15724319]

Let more "war refugees" in! That should solve it.

[Anonymous No.15724331]

>>15724176
democraphic issue first and foremost. gdp increase requires population increase but gdp/capita which is the only important is steady rising both eu and japan

[Anonymous No.15724339]

>>15723350
Interesting, if scary, read.

[Anonymous No.15724345]

>>15724001
Btc or gold would be easiest to get for you probably. If you can't buy those things, then buy drugs that are popular that will last a long time in a jar somewhere.

[Anonymous No.15724473]

>>15724001
Privavy coins then.

Monero or Safex or something.

[Anonymous No.15724495]

Oh look, idiots still think DB's collapse will surprise anyone.

Yeah guys, this'll totally shock the system like Lehman. Uh huh.

[Anonymous No.15724583]

>>15724495
not the system itself of course. Middle class/wagies will suffer though.

[Anonymous No.15724607]

>>15724583
Wageslaves suffer for a variety of reasons, but unless they actually work at DB literally none of them will change when pieces of the business are firesold to other banks or firms.

[Anonymous No.15724634]

>>15724607
I hope you are right fren.

[Anonymous No.15724639]

>>15724607
no way. Banking crashes, losses and defaults are always paid by the public through inflation (already going on right now), and more taxes. That's literally how bailouts work. Will everyone end up in the street mad max style? no, but the further dive into poverty will grow.

[Anonymous No.15724643]

>>15719141
Mario Draghi is even considering MMT
If that’s not alarming you are a fucking brainlet
At least they will not try to pump liquidity using banks and wasting trillions like last QE

[Anonymous No.15724653]

>>15724639
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR MY LINKIES!?!?

[Anonymous No.15724662]

>>15719097
in a fictional system the solution can be imagined and implemented out of thin air so there's no problem.
if something collapses within the (((financial system))) it is allowed and preferred to happen.
^always remember this

[Anonymous No.15724665]

>>15719327
>20% contraction in < 7 days
>40% of all time high

[Anonymous No.15724688]

>>15724662
Was just thinking about this last night. These niggers can literally make up rules as they go along.

[Anonymous No.15724694]

>>15719097
>>15724662
also everything is still fine
pic related
(1)

[Anonymous No.15724698]

>>15724473

Safex is that a condom brand?
I am going next week to Belgrade Serbia, want to fuck some yummy kurva, I will wear double condom to protect from New std Xscamlibra.
Better to stay SAFEX than get aids from Serbian whore

[Anonymous No.15724704]

>>15724639
The government flat out printing DB's entire 15b market cap would hardly budge monthly inflation, let alone annual inflation.

And that's an impossible hypothetical because straight up bailouts happen when the bank's collapse would catch others off guard. "500 billion trillion in derivatives exposure!!11!" is not systemic risk.

[Anonymous No.15724710]

>>15719097
>>15724662
also everything is still fine
pic realted
(2)

[Anonymous No.15724735]

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO MY LINKIES?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.15724748]

>>15724735

Buy SAFEX condoms

[Anonymous No.15724804]

>>15724688
checked & saved
>>15724688
>These niggers can literally make up rules as they go along.
...and normies (well, pretty much everybody on the planet) simply can't out-think the (((System))) since it's the only thing they've ever known.

[Anonymous No.15724899]

>>15724804
Yep, it's one of the most infuriating things ever, people not being able to think outside of the perceived narrative. The npc meme is fucking real.

[Anonymous No.15724909]

>>15724735
Each one will be given to an immigrant

[Anonymous No.15724925]

>>15724899
do you think space is real?

[Anonymous No.15724974]

>>15719651
Me unironically

[Anonymous No.15724995]

>>15719138
This chart is so fucking nuts

[Anonymous No.15725002]

>>15724001
>I'm not legally allowed to own gold, foreign stocks or bitcoin.

what a fucking shithole lol. just buy btc and chainlink from coinbase pro or kraken then send to a ledger.

[Anonymous No.15725028]

the kikes need to ship 250 million more african and middle eastern men into europe before this shit implodes
or else the holocaust might actually happen for real this time

[Anonymous No.15725051]

>>15719097
duuuuh just print more money and force everyone to use it while giving it away to poor stupid populations who can't produce anything useful or don't necessarily have to because you guarantee them money while taking it from populations that typically can produce useful things to the point where so much as a small house becomes unaffordable to even the adults of these productive populations

[Anonymous No.15725080]

>>15719219
You could draw a network graph like that with literally any of the nodes at the center and it would look the same. DB’s CEO is just desperately scrambling to try and get taxpayers to bail him and his failing bank out. Protip: it’ll work

[Anonymous No.15725101]

>>15725028
they're doing their best, trust me. the invasion has gone full turbo in Italy with salvini out of the picture.

>>15725051
it's all in your own interest! truste me goy! You are not an antisemite or a climate change denier, are you?

[Anonymous No.15725117]

>>15719097
>Deutsche Bank

[Anonymous No.15725128]

>>15724925
Its real but we can't travel in it like you think we can. If you think we can then prove it. The moon landing was a multi billion dollar hoax.

[Anonymous No.15725134]

>>15725117
The IMF said the same thing a year ago.

[Anonymous No.15725148]

>>15725128
just checking
cheers

[Anonymous No.15725292]

>>15725128
>>15725148
This is what happens when high school physics becomes an optional course

[Anonymous No.15725302]

>>15719327
Hm, yes, I love paying massive fees every time I made a purchase. Pizza will not only cost $20 + tip, now I need to throw in $5 for the bitcoin fee.

[Anonymous No.15725342]

>>15725292
>he thinks they tell the absolute truth about physics..

[Anonymous No.15725344]

>>15724001
>not legally allowed to own gold,
Is that a thing? How do they enforce it? Do they take your gold chains and RIP out your fillings?

[Claysam Homes No.15725364]

>>15719097
> cropped out the date

herb

[Anonymous No.15725519]

>>15723350
The fall in inflation is why crypto is struggling global economy and inflation is crashing with no survivors.

Thanks God we are 230 days from the halving once that happens we will defend the 10k price level until quantitative easing or just money printing happens on mass scale.

[Anonymous No.15725530]

>>15723382
15% is nothing for btc you need to look at the long term trend

[Anonymous No.15725553]

>>15724001
Just buy btc via localbitcoins or credit card and wait for the crisis

[Anonymous No.15725603]

>>15725128
Where specifically are your doubts about our ability to go to the moon or other planets?