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Future top 50? Seems like this has a lot of potential. Been reading a lot of FUD about this over the past weeks.

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>> No.15672651

It will depend on the IEO partnership with IBM and onboarding some more Corporate clients. Then it will be a top 50 coin easily. So far all the fundamentals are in place to grow towards gigantic proportions.

>> No.15672657

Yeah FUD from internal discord trannies trying to suppress the price and manipulate you retards before a real exchange comes around. Just accumulate.

>> No.15672690

>>15672631
Why is this considered a security by the US and not a utility token?

>> No.15672722

There is one thing to keep in mind. The V-ID team has always delivered. This far anyway. My gut feeling says that we have the mother of all pumps inc for VIDT

>> No.15672749

>>15672722
I pump my semen in your mother

>> No.15672759

>>15672657
It is a SCAM
What else do you need??
They arrested the whole team because they were running drug labs from their "office"

>> No.15672762

the fastest x10 of your life

cap this and check in 2 months

>> No.15672772

At least $1 EOY, doubled depending on the new clients.

>> No.15672811

>>15672762
10x loss you mean
Fucking delusional bagholder

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>>15672631
>>15672651
>>15672657
>>15672722
>>15672762
>>15672772


10/30 so baholder cope lvl only 33% not bad long way to go to nano levels (99%)

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>>15672631
Let's just say I didn't acquire a top 30 bag for no reason.
>Kino event later this year

>> No.15673054

>>15672759
based schizo poster, are the Venusians talking to you again?
>>15672811
did they diddle you again? explain the story for everyone.

>> No.15673211

>>15672631
top 50 maybe in a year or two... I'm gonna try and sell the peak of the coming pump, the coins proved violently volatile.

>> No.15673624

$1000 k eoy? oh sorry, wrong delusion

>> No.15674055

>>15672690
It's still uncertain to them so it's not listed as a utility token as of yet

>> No.15674696
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Acronis has patented their blockchain validation technology and V-ID are infringing on it: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160283920
>A method for authenticating a chain of custody utilizing blockchain technology, whereby digital evidence or other digital content is acquired and then hashed to produce a hash fingerprint/signature and then immediately or instantly submitting said hash fingerprint/signature to the blockchain using the blockchain network protocol, forming an immediate verifiable chain of custody without human interaction or requiring a trusted third party.
They have 10 other patents for this one service, Acronis Notary:
https://www.acronis.com/en-us/business/blockchain-notary/

The patent is not pending, it already has been procured: https://www.arentfox.com/perspectives/alerts/arent-fox-obtains-patent-verifying-data-integrity-using-blockchain-network

V-ID is not partnered the global IBM. They've merely signed up to talk at IBM Netherlands's "Circular Economy Data Network" meetup group: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/circular-economy-data-network-session-3-tickets-63862673977
Acronis already has top businesses and clients using their service. See pic related.

https://www.coinspeaker.com/acronis-launches-blockchain-initiative/
>The initiative launched by Acronis has already been duly appreciated by bitcoin and blockchain companies. Vitalik Buterin commented: “The potential for Blockchain reaches far beyond Bitcoin transactions with its built-in ability to deliver data protection and authenticity at costs that are dramatically lower than traditional systems. By applying Blockchain technology to its solutions, Acronis is the first data protection vendor that we’ve seen embrace this innovative technology to bring new levels of data protection to digital records and transactions.”
After all this, you don't think Acronis will sue V-ID the minute they start cutting into their profits?

>> No.15674756

>>15672631
>June 1st

>> No.15674816

>>15674696
Found the SENT shilling pajeet who lost everything in his previous flavour of the month

>> No.15674821

>>15674816
Found the bagholder that cannot debunk any of the factual and logical points.

>> No.15674835

its dumping KEK

>> No.15674836

>>15674055
>It's still uncertain to them so it's not listed as a utility token as of yet
LMAO you have problems when the very team working on the project cannot tell if their token is a utility or a security token, even after consulting with a Dutch lawyer (lol) and having a service where they offer a notary, KYC, and do the supposed legal leg work.

>> No.15675804

>>15674821
Although methods can be patented, ideas cannot. So no one can have a patent on the idea of blockchain validation. There are always multiple methods to the same technical end. So these patents won’t push VIDT out of the market. In EU regulations it’s also impossible to patent specific computer code (although of course there is copyright on software). This is to, amongst other things, enable open source work and not to let companies rip off the fruits of these open source accomplishments.

>> No.15675818

>>15674696
See my comment above. You are spreading complete bullshit.

>> No.15675939

>>15675804
>>15675818
>Although methods can be patented, ideas cannot. So no one can have a patent on the idea of blockchain validation.
VIDT investors, trannies and gentlemen. Here's one "idea patent" off the top of my head: https://kotaku.com/the-patent-on-loading-screen-mini-games-is-about-to-exp-1744705351
>For twenty years, Namco Bandai has held patent US 5718632 A, which has given them ownership of the idea of a loading screen minigame.
Ideas mean that it has not been produced. Everyone has ideas, obviously. If you produce your idea, put it out in the market place, and explain how you do it in your application, it becomes an invention.

>See my comment above. You are spreading complete bullshit.
The confidence in which you wrote your post sounds like you know what you're talking about, except, again, no sources to back up any of your claims: https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/can-you-patent-an-idea
>In addition to what can and cannot be patented, patents have to be novel and non-obvious. Those words have very specific legal meaning but, for inventors, it means that the invention has to be completely new. Being novel means that no one has ever made the same invention before. Your invention is totally new: it has never been described in a publication or in a patent application. No one has ever made the exact same thing.
See quote from Vitalik. Acronis was the first one to do it. And they own the patent. More than ten of them, in fact.

>> No.15675963

>>15673003
You posted a losing bingo card you fucking retard

>> No.15676048

>>15675939
You CANNOT patent a idea. In this case you can compare this situation with the first car manufactures. There are many different manufactors nowadays. The way they manufact the cars differ from each other but the product is the same, a car. If VIDT would be infringing on the acronis patent, they can simply change a small part on the technical side of the validation process. But I don't even think they have to cause the validation process V-ID is using is different from the process Acronis is discribing in their patent(s).

This patent crap is nothing more than bullshit.

>> No.15676106

>>15672759
Was it just pot or harder stuff too?

>> No.15676132

>>15676106
Biz gives me headache sometimes.

>> No.15676142

>>15676048
>You CANNOT patent a idea.
Then explain how NAMCO successfully held the patent for putting an interactive mini game on a loading screen. Cars have nothing to do with this. The loading screen is computer software related, just as is Acronis/V-ID.

Finjan files patent infringement suit against Bitdefender as part of campaign to protect online security IP: https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/08/23/finjan-patent-infringement-suit-bitdefender/id=87064/
Fed. Circ. Affirms Validity Of Cybersecurity Patent: https://www.reuters.com/article/ip-patent-finjan/fed-circuit-hands-finjan-another-win-in-palo-alto-networks-patent-case-idUSL2N1W51UG
>The Federal Circuit on Wednesday affirmed a Patent Trial and Appeal Board decision that a malware detection patent asserted against Palo Alto Networks Inc. is not obvious.
So is what V-ID doing is obvious and anyone could do it (why aren't they?) or they're infringing the patent.

>> No.15676196

And even if validating files on a blockchain the way V-ID/Acronis does it was obvious (it isn't), Acronis still could sue V-ID and they're a billion dollar company with over 100 offices around the world. V-ID cannot afford the legal trouble.

>> No.15676218

The patent is not pending, it already has been procured: https://www.arentfox.com/perspectives/alerts/arent-fox-obtains-patent-verifying-data-integrity-using-blockchain-network
>One of the challenges of prosecuting patents directed to systems and methods implemented on decentralized and distributed networks is to make sure that all steps of the method claims are performed by a single entity in order to establish a direct infringement during a lawsuit.
Single entity: V-ID because they're the ones using the Chuck E Cheese VIDT tokens on the back-end API. Oh no no no no

>> No.15676314

>>15676142
Well, a mini game in a loading screen cannot be compared with a whole new communication technique such as blockchain. I used the word "idea" in my previous post, but I should have used the word "process". Acronis can have a patent on a certain process to have a file validated. It can't patent the outcome: a file that has been validated. Software is complicated to patent, since it is very easy to make adjustments to a system or process. If your simple-minded logic would be true there wouldn't be different text editors, browsers, virus scanners, media players, etc.

>> No.15676330

>>15676218
oh chuck a cheese, I like cheese. Try to create sell presure for another project, cause this one will go up in a couple of day's.

>> No.15676487

>>15676314
>Well, a mini game in a loading screen cannot be compared with a whole new communication technique such as blockchain.
Explain why. Why can a mini-game on a loading screen be successfully patented, while game genres cannot. I know the answer, but considering how you're now talking about a "process" and an idea, which are apples vs umbrellas, you will simply dodge this question.

>Acronis can have a patent on a certain process to have a file validated. It can't patent the outcome: a file that has been validated.
With this logic, you could have had a mini-game on a loading screen. Outcome: interactive entertainment between levels. How are levels defined? What constitutes as a mini-game? In the world of law, whoever has the most money usually wins. Acronis could sue V-ID anyway and more than likely win.

>If your simple-minded logic would be true there wouldn't be different text editors, browsers, virus scanners, media players, etc.
You realize there were text editors and media players back in 1970s80s, you need to submit a patent before someone else makes the same thing (which makes the invention OBVIOUS), and patents only last 20 years max, right? Of course not.

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>he keeps changing his fud everytime he gets btfo

>> No.15676498

It's a future top 5.

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Not to mention in the 80s, most programs were coded by one dude with no capital to pay for a patent.

>>15676488
>hurrgguhfhg fud btfo

>> No.15676550

>>15673003
why is it 5 horizontal but 6 square tall? this shits retarded

>> No.15676569

Never seen so much more energy go into fudding such a small cap like VIDT before. Makes me want to sell some of my other alts and buy more VIDT.

>> No.15676619

>>15676569
Please do. Make a donation to some poor unfortunate pajeet, so maybe one day he can come to a first world country and start a successful business.

>> No.15676682

>>15672631
i should have sold at 120k vits, i have lost so much on this shit it fucking hurts to even think about.

>> No.15676709

Now is the time to buy back in to recover your losses and make a profit.

>> No.15676742

>>15676709
>Now is the time to buy back in to recover your losses and make a profit.
LOL! Someone wants to get rid of their heavy bags.

>> No.15677110

>>15676742
He is actually right, almost a cross on the daily EMA chart :) I honestly think this project will fly in a week or so.

>> No.15677166

>>15677110
>doing TA on a lowcap altcoin
But I see you're conceding and have no arguments about the patent infringement. Only reason V-ID is still around because, well, they only have 32 clients.

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Your source to "https://www.arentfox.com/perspectives/alerts/arent-fox-obtains-patent-verifying-data-integrity-using-blockchain-network" is a garbage article talking about a "pending patent" this doesn't prove anything... nice try faggot. With all of this fud effort I'm convinced to buy more, thanks.

>> No.15677420

>>15677166
I already told you how I think about it. The patent isn't anything to worry about in my opinion. Youre just trying to fud a legit lowcap project.

>> No.15677491

Absolute gem coin, the desperate fudding reminds me of link. $2 eoy, $50 eoy 2021

>> No.15677513

>>15677166
>12 posts by this ID
LMAO who hurt you?

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>>15677412
1. The "garbage" article from their lawyers doesn't link to that patent.
2. The actual Acronis patent cites the linked Google patent, if you would have scrolled down and read it.
3. The actual Acronis patent is https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180101701A1/
Application granted: 2018-12-18
Expires: 2037-10-06
Your IQ: Under 100.

Eat shit.

>> No.15677579

And they have 10 other patents to ensure that their invention doesn't get copied. Please buy more.

>>15677513
Not an argument.