I'm such a fucking retard

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I'm such a fucking retard Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:01:12 2019 No.15613496 [Reply] [Original]

Don't do psychology as a major in college. Waste of fucking time. Fuck this fucking shit.

22 - no prospects, got called to work as a kitchen porter starting 9$ an hour.

Ex-Gf is now with a new guy.
Go to LinkedIn profile.
See he studied Computer science security or some bs.
Makes 45k a year.

How the fuck do I weasel my way out of this one? I'm meant to be doing a one year masters degree in psych but now I've realised I've fucked it before I even started.

WHAT DO?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:03:34 2019 No.15613507 >>15613496 Go learn programming, I did it without a degree. I quit college, was doing dentistry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:04:44 2019 No.15613515 >>15613496 Every girl in college is in psychology or biology. It's the "haha I'm smart and like science" degree for retards. Shouldn't have went for a meme degree

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:04:56 2019 No.15613516 wow, you literally got a woman's degree, good job

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:05:00 2019 No.15613517 >>15613496 Did you at least get together with cute chicks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:05:11 2019 No.15613518 >>15613496 45k a year with a stem degree is pretty bad dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:06:53 2019 No.15613530 >>15613507 And yes, this is good advice. You’re only 22, you might feel old but you’re not. Imagine being in the same situation you’re in now but you’ve been working dead end jobs for a decade plus. I have many friends that this is the case for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:06:55 2019 No.15613531 like 8/9 people who do psychology are there to fix themselves. The meme is real.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:07:27 2019 No.15613537 >>15613496 become a teacher

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:08:02 2019 No.15613540

>>15613496
You fucked up bud. There are literally no psych jobs. You must have realized that. Did you not see that all of your classes were filled with dumb bimbos? Ever wonder why you were one of the few guys in there? It is because it is a womens blowoff major you dummy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:09:07 2019 No.15613546 is it bad for a 22y.o to get another degree?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:09:46 2019 No.15613550
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>>15613507
How long did the programming take to learn and what did you do with it?

How long did it take to get you a job with your skills and where did you leanr the skills of programming?

>>15613515
Unironically, the class was like 10:1. I banged a few whores.

>>15613516
Thanks fucktard, now what?

>>15613517
Yes, landwhales

>>15613518
Is it pretty bad? I'm a fucking stalker and I see his LinkedIn profile. He's making a great salary it seems. He works in X COMPANY as a cloud associate or some shit.
I WAS OFFERED A JOB IN FRAUD MANAGEMENT FOR A BANK AFTER MY DEGREE. SHOULD I HAVE TAKEN IT?

15 EURO AN HOUR STARTING. COULD I HAVE WORKED MY WAY UP? Fuckkkk

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:11:04 2019 No.15613564 >>15613546 No, i went do to a medicine degree at 22.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:11:49 2019 No.15613569 Actually OP there is a way out, tech uses a fuckload of psychologists. Look into "UX research" type roles. they analyze and use psych methods to make stuff better. You might need at least a masters though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:12:04 2019 No.15613572 >>15613550 like I said. Become a teacher.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:12:32 2019 No.15613577 >>15613550 Oh, 45k is a lot of money in europoor land I guess. But here in the states, recent grads can easily make double that. Even Indians brought in on H1B visas have to legally make at least $60k.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:13:18 2019 No.15613584

>>15613546
I went to school at 23 after traveling for years, and got my CS degree by 27, turned down a couple offers after I graduated and now I'm in graduate school for CS just for the fun of it. Definitely go back if you want it isn't as awkward as everyone says unless you are super beta.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:14:15 2019 No.15613596 >>15613550 Your degree qualifies you to work "Industrial psychology"/"Human Resources" type jobs so apply to that. The bank job could have been pretty cool too.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:15:11 2019 No.15613602
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>>15613572
I would rather kill myself than become a teacher desu.

>>15613577
Nice dubs. Yeah. I can't believe i've done this shit to myself. I have no idea what the fuck to do. I'm a literal retard who had no direction and just chose a degree because le parents want u to go to college.

I'm fucked.

>>15613584
I don't want to go back. I can't go back There is no other option than to go forward.

Literally no hope. I'm not sure what the fuck I am doing with my life. Fuck this shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:15:11 2019 No.15613603 >>15613596 Yeah he could easily land a tech recruiter or hr job if he wants to start at the bottom and work commission.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:15:52 2019 No.15613612 >>15613577 tech salaries are collapsing right now because of recession. Stop spreading memes from 2015.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:15:53 2019 No.15613611
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I earn $3k a month programming from ”home”. That means I can go wherever I want and still get paid for contributing a few lines of code monthly to the startup
Couple this with the fact that I already own a house

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:17:08 2019 No.15613623 >>15613612 I don't dispute that, but they ARE still up there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:17:11 2019 No.15613624 >>15613611 How long did it take to become a programmer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:17:15 2019 No.15613625 >>15613602 You’re only 22. Grow a pair and get a fucking skill. You’ll thank us.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:17:23 2019 No.15613628
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>>15613496
I don't know what is more retarded, the fact that you got a degree in psychology without pursuing a doctorate or the fact the new guy has a CS degree and only makes 45k

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:18:57 2019 No.15613648 I majored in psych and got an cushy hr job after college. Only make 40k but I’m better off than 80% of my peers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:19:58 2019 No.15613658 >>15613628 to be fair nearly 30% of cs grads are underemployed, which is still far better than most degrees (even stem)

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:22:15 2019 No.15613680

>>15613648
What age are you now?
I want to be making 50k to be happy.
>>15613625
>get a fucking skill
I am in the top 5% of chess players of all time out of lichess rankings (2200 elo). I'm a fucking autist. I should have dedicated my time to programming or some other shit other than chess, video games and iq tests.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:23:15 2019 No.15613691

>>15613550
>How long did the programming take to learn
20hrs per week for 12 months would be decent

just go to udemy and buy these courses for $10 when they're on sale: https://www.udemy.com/user/andrewmead/

start with his javascript course, then nodejs, then react (ignore graphql for now)

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:23:42 2019 No.15613696
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>$45k/year
So she left a fuck up (You) for another fuck up.
If you go to four years of school and your first job is any less than $60k your degree is either useless or you're a fucking failure. If I'm making any less than $90k in another year I'll know I fucked up too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:24:30 2019 No.15613702 Do Data Science

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:24:32 2019 No.15613703 >>15613696 OP is in Europe

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:24:56 2019 No.15613705

>>15613680
Graduated at 22. 25 now. Sr HR reps make 50k that’s about 3 years experience. One of the best parts is after a few years experience you pretty much work for any company in any part of the country you want since all major companies have an HR department

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:25:18 2019 No.15613710 >>15613680 You’re making excuses dude. It’s not our fault you majored in psych. Again, you’re only 22. This situation is only going to get worse as you get older. Don’t fuck around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:28:12 2019 No.15613741 Companies like google will hire selftaught programmers. Learn to code.Dont be like the journos

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:28:14 2019 No.15613743

>>15613680
>I should have dedicated my time to programming or some other shit other than chess

I know that feel, im 23, honestly it isn't that late to start, the main issue with programming is knowing the right stack to learn to land a specific job, since if you learn for fun you may end with non-related programming skills rather than a full stack that would land yourself a job, it would be helpful if someone could lend me a hand in this too since i don't know what to learn or what choices i have

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:28:40 2019 No.15613748 >>15613703 Oh I see. Granted your currency is worth more, I don't understand how you work for so much less and are simultaneously taxed two or three times as high as anyone in USA.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:30:06 2019 No.15613756

>>15613496
why do psychology without a plan?
I mean why not become a psychotherapist? You will have a good salary, guaranteed and interesting career, and it is actually the least likely (of them all) job to ever be automated

Why not do this instead of becoming some average code monkey competing with literally the entire world for shit work?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:33:58 2019 No.15613791

What the fuck are you talking about? Trained therapists are in super high demand. It's also one of the few jobs that are completely safe for automation because of the social factor involved. Psychology is literally a home run of you go the mental health route, especially men are in high demand. You just have fucked up something there anon... What is it?

Did you pick social psychology and a major or some shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:34:02 2019 No.15613794 >>15613496 Invest in some gems that ll give huge profit and start a small business with it take some gems like UDOO for example

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:35:12 2019 No.15613802 >>15613748 because no employer outside the US is willing to pay so insane salaries for coding work. If you want to make money in Europe/Asia you have to be a finance chad, pilot, or some kind of doctor

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:36:13 2019 No.15613807 >>15613802 Dude just get a work visa lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:36:15 2019 No.15613808 >>15613743 >>15613691 udemy has pretty decent courses if you know which instructor to look for. stephen grider and andrew mead are both great just keep doing tutorials and read articles sooner or later something will click

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:36:30 2019 No.15613810

>>15613569
Seriously this. Ignore the fact that most psych grads are retarded women, the world is in the middle of a psychological war. The biggest companies in the world make money by getting you addicted to their apps. Democracy is a game played by manipulating as many voters as you can. Get a masters or some credential that puts you above the typical psych thot, then actually get good by reading people like Cialdini and experimenting yourself. Eventually launch your own Cambridge Analytica or just work for them.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:37:42 2019 No.15613818

>>15613791
No just pure psychology. I'm so fucking sick and tired of working some shitty wageslave job. I'm desperate for cash. I didn't know it would take this fucking long.

I need to find a job in psychology that won't take another 4 years of college to be starting on 50k euro.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:38:09 2019 No.15613822

>>15613550
I'm working in fraud rn. I got a finance degree. The idiots I work with all got com or other dumb degrees. I took this job because manager basically lies about what I would be doing on the interview. I'm already trying to bail. At least it's easy.

But to answer your question it leads nowhere and is really only something you should do while you look for something else

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:39:57 2019 No.15613837 >>15613808 thing is i already know programming because i used to be an scripter for some video games in C++, skyrim papyrus and LUA, so i know the basics, i just need to know what languages i should research and that's where i get confused

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:40:12 2019 No.15613841 >>15613808 too add on, if you're unsure of what stack to learn just go with MERN or MEVN since you can use just javascript for the entire stack

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:40:36 2019 No.15613844

>>15613569
>>15613810
This is actually true OP. I have an interview Wednesday for a private contract training machine learning algorithms for use in client technical support. Demonstrate some academic competence and you could definitely pick up some consulting work.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:41:46 2019 No.15613850

>>15613822
Thanks for your reply. Yes, the recruiter seemed desperate to have me which was a red flag at the get go. It seemed to good to be true as well.

>>15613810
I think I might become an industrial psychologist since that's where all the fucking money is in psychology.

>>15613810
Get a masters degree is the first protocol

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:43:37 2019 No.15613870

>>15613791
>What the fuck are you talking about? Trained therapists are in super high demand. It's also one of the few jobs that are completely safe for automation because of the social factor involved. Psychology is literally a home run of you go the mental health route, especially men are in high demand. You just have fucked up something there anon... What is it?
this

>>15613818
finish college and become a therapist or some other in demand psychology occupation and enjoy one of the more rewarding careers while easily making way more than 50k.

If you only want money become a pilot, get 1500hrs on a jet (1-3 years of flying) and go work in China for a 300k USD net salary. The downside is that you have to be a pilot for a Chinese airline.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:46:03 2019 No.15613899 >>15613612 What recession? It definitely isn't affecting any tech salaries I've seen. In big tech right now and we can't find competent devs anywhere, we also pay far above the industry average.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:46:18 2019 No.15613902 >>15613841 thanks that was just what i needed, thanks a lot, really appreciated

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:47:13 2019 No.15613912 >>15613612 This is a lie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:55:38 2019 No.15613982 >>15613870 >1500hrs at massive expense >practically automated anyway >almost certain to be barred by CCP once there are enough Chinese pilots Risk reward isn't good on that one. Plus you'll get cancer from being above the atmosphere so long.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:56:12 2019 No.15613987 >>15613507 >quit college, was doing dentistry. You fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:04:20 2019 No.15614054 >>15613496 Get your PhD or teach high school psychology. It isn’t that hard...

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:06:47 2019 No.15614078

>>15613870
>Pilot
He’ll need 40-50k cash (if American, 100k+ for others) and about five years to even qualify for a Chinese RJ job... not to mention most of those jobs require an airbus/Boeing type rating and the astronaut medical to fly for a Chinese airline

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:07:56 2019 No.15614085 File: 28 KB, 334x506, 1564709183175.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15613496 >Computer science >Makes 45k a year where did he go to school? the trash bin, am i right fellas....

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:09:41 2019 No.15614094 >>15613870 >>15614078 Not to mention becoming a pilot is not the easiest way to make money at all

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:11:19 2019 No.15614112

>>15613982
>>15614078
you are missing the fact that pilot school is free or almost free in Europe. Type rating will also be free with a bond to the airline that you work for or you can pay it off if you leave before. You do not need five years to qualify for all of those jobs. In fact, I could probably complete pilot school + type rating + get 1500 hours in less than 4 years in my country. However, you are correct about the medical and the risks

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:11:50 2019 No.15614115 File: 2.00 MB, 250x158, 1565619485309.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do zoomies live on such little money? Are you doing gay stuff online for pay? I have to assume all zoomies are gay for pay the way they look and act.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:13:16 2019 No.15614129

>>15614094
maybe not, but it is one of the most straightforward and best paths for "money" in Europe. Of course, you should absolutely not do it only for money (you will probably not even get through the extremely difficult selection process for pilot school)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:14:09 2019 No.15614141 >>15614112 >Pilot school is free in Europe Lol no... it will cost up to 80k Euros unless you’re lucky enough to get into a cadet program. >1500 hours That’s only in America, which is a closed shop

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:15:21 2019 No.15614158 >>15614112 http://www.fta-global.com/become-a-pilot/course-fees

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:16:34 2019 No.15614170 >>15613987 lol yup. One of the dude's gf's at my place was a dentist, he had to go through "Gate B" when visiting her place. House was almost a fucking mansion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:19:11 2019 No.15614194 >>15613496 As an applied maths undergrad, fucking lol at your life broh

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:29:01 2019 No.15614295

>>15614141
>Lol no... it will cost up to 80k Euros unless you’re lucky enough to get into a cadet program.
Yeah, I was referring to the cadet programs. Many major airlines have them in Europe. It would not make financial sense to go any other route here. But yeah, they are not easy to get into.

>That’s only in America, which is a closed shop
How so? Most airlines globally are looking for this as a minimum requirement if you are looking to switch jobs. It is also when frozen ATPL gets unfrozen IIRC. However, looking at the jobs posted now most seem to have at least 3000 hours requirement for captain. I have seen lower than that previously

>https://www.cae.com/civil-aviation/aviation-jobs/find-a-job/a320-first-officer-jetstar-pacific-vietnam-22537
1500 hours first officer, over 7k / month net in Vietnam

>https://www.cae.com/civil-aviation/aviation-jobs/find-a-job/a320-captain-spring-airlines-shanghai-and-shenzhen-14111
example with 3000 hours requirement, close to 300k net salary

>https://www.cae.com/civil-aviation/aviation-jobs/find-a-job/a320-captains-17095
another one, 300k salary

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:30:59 2019 No.15614312 35 year old here. I have my high school diploma and I've been making 120k a year for like 5 years now. Poor people who actually go to school until they are well into their 20s and make a shit wage with 100k in debt. Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:33:52 2019 No.15614345 >>15614312 >35 year old your life is already gone old man

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:34:41 2019 No.15614353

>>15613496
My daughter has a psych degree and after three years as a uniformed police officer, she's eligible to become a sex victims detective when there is an opening after a coming retirement next Spring. She enjoys her work, just depends what you do with yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:34:45 2019 No.15614356 >>15613837 Why not sometbing that involves programing shitcoins?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:38:43 2019 No.15614390 >>15614353 >she's eligible to become a sex victims detective Hot

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:42:33 2019 No.15614432

ya should have gotten grades with such an easy major.

C's for degrees is for literal retards. It's extremely hard outside of some vanishingly small areas to get a good career without graduate/professional school - both of which require fairly high grades.

I have your degree, graduated with a 3.9, and now am in a medical field getting paid low six figures.

Your problem isn't the degree so much as what you decided to do with it, which is shit all I'd imagine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:43:25 2019 No.15614442 >>15613496 >See he studied Computer science security or some bs. >Makes 45k a year. new bf sounds like a loser who studies anything cs related and makes only 45k

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:44:53 2019 No.15614453

Go to law school.
I'm actually not joking. I don't have any undergrad debt because my dad paid for my shitty meme degree (journalism), but if you're not a brainlet then you can do well enough on the LSAT that a college will pay for 2/3 of your tuition at the very least. You'll be able to take out a federal loan of around 20k per year and live off that while you go to school.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:58:23 2019 No.15614580 >>15614453 >Law school Don’t lawyers make like 60k unless they get a job in biglaw, which is like having two full time jobs paying 80k?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 20:04:07 2019 No.15614639

>>15613496
One of my friends studied psychology and got trained by Jewel to be a regional manager right out of undergrad. Makes 90K a year now, and he'll prob make more if he goes back for an MBA.

Dont look for opportunities in psychology unless you have a PhD. Look into banking, corporate, oil & gas, railroad, etc... Go where the money is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 20:05:09 2019 No.15614643 >>15614453 Law school is all about prestige, if you can go to a top 14, why not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 20:35:37 2019 No.15614859 >>15613507 Dat u faceberg?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:22:08 2019 No.15615685 >>15613507 programming jobs without a degree or even with a degree are incredibly hard to get in this day and age. the market is flooded

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:23:09 2019 No.15615694 >>15613584 did you sleep with any 18 year olds

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:28:58 2019 No.15615744 DO NOT DO PROGRAMMING. MARKET IS FLOODED WITH PAJEETS WHO COME TO USA AND DO THE JOB FOR 50% LESS PAY. THE MARKET IS FLOODED.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:34:27 2019 No.15615788 >>15613680 >lichess 2200 That is not something to boast about mr. not-even-cm. Imagine being below baby's meme title and thinking you are special.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:39:52 2019 No.15615835

Everyone in here under 25 talking about it being "too late", I was you, I'm fucking 29 now faggots and that mindset has landed me in a position where I still haven't pushed myself into programming despite having always been technically skilled in debugging, OS optimization, building computers, etc.

Realize how fucking retarded you are for thinking you are old or too late and get busy or enjoy being me in literally the blink of an eye. Time flies and I am paying a heavy price for it. I even have friend making 100k+ who told me to just study c#/.net for a few months and they could give me part time work doing UI for 420/hr, remote - your impostor syndrome and procrastination will literally destroy all of your time and potential that you're afraid has already passed. I'm still trying to will myself into getting some Net+, Sec+ certs or learning a development stack, but inertia only become stronger the longer you steep in it. Wake the fuck up guys, you're going to fucking die some day, rich or poor, you're dead meat in waiting.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:42:43 2019 No.15615864

>>15613496
There are good jobs that still exist which don't require a degree. I went for Psych too mostly because I was interested in it and had no idea what to do with my life. I just got a job at a casino making $40-45k starting. They provided all the training. I see people in this thread calling psychology a meme degree but in my experience college as a whole is a meme. Get creative, go to job fairs, and relocate if you have to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:06:00 2019 No.15616045 >>15613550 You're a retard. Just get a job doing anything at corpo and prove your worth, they hire from within and promotion rates for college grads in anything are like 400% what normal people get.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:14:55 2019 No.15616104

>>15615835
>I even have friend making 100k+ who told me to just study c#/.net for a few months and they could give me part time work doing UI for 420/hr
Maybe it's possible he could make that happen, but I don't think a few months of C# could get most people a job. I look at places like indeed or craig lists at programming jobs, front end, back end, sql, etc. And they all want AT LEAST 3 years of experience or a degree and a year+ of experience. I'm not even sure a cert would be enough.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:18:48 2019 No.15616132

>>15616104
>3+ years experience
It's a meme to weed out people who are afraid to apply. This is well known among pretty much everyone in the industry.

I put on an indeed resume that I had like a month of experience doing IT work and was offered a Network Operations job starting at $20 an hour with nothing but upward mobility if you're not a retard. Also, simply doing UI work is slightly more advanced than doing HTML in notepad, don't kid yourself - it can be learned in a few weeks if you have any aptitude or self discipline.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:19:43 2019 No.15616139 >>15616104 This. Actual job experience is the only thing that REALLY matters for most places from what I've seen. Degrees and other shit is just extra.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:20:32 2019 No.15616148 >>15616132 Where do I start? That Udemy stuff posted earlier?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:21:07 2019 No.15616150 >>15613507 >learn to code there it is

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:21:09 2019 No.15616152 t. someone who has a CS degree but 0 experience outside of that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:24:09 2019 No.15616164 >>15615744 As someone who is 32 and working in the food service industry, 50% of pay is still above my pay.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:28:12 2019 No.15616197

>>15616148
Honestly, start by doing shit yourself. If you get in this loop of having to ask for every instruction from where to start, what to make, who to ask what, where to apply, you will never actually do anything. You can literally start anywhere, all that matters is that you start and keep going.
>>15616150
It is only a meme if you are too stupid to build things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:33:08 2019 No.15616228 File: 315 KB, 1022x1091, Screenshot_20190916-223241_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15613496 You're going to make it anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:35:09 2019 No.15616246 File: 145 KB, 700x700, 1566351760179.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15613602 Stay stron, fren.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:40:30 2019 No.15616286 >>15614115 Zoomies live on their parents couch's or are heavily in debt. With th exception of a few rich asians.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:50:09 2019 No.15616355 >>15616197 So basically learn javascript and build a portfolio of whatever the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:55:20 2019 No.15616388 >>15616355 Nutrition Weight Lifting Learn to google your questions instead of wasting your time here leave 4chan etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:59:49 2019 No.15616421 >>15616388 Anon, this is just one source of information and a good one when you can sift through it. I'm literally lifting weights right now, just finished my squats and moving to bench press.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:02:48 2019 No.15616437 >>15614580 See >>15614643

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:28:34 2019 No.15616571 I have a CS major from a top school from 10 years ago, but I never used it in my career in the financial industry. My skills weren’t the best at the time and completed rotted away now. Does it have any value if I work to resurrect coding skills now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:24:17 2019 No.15616895 >>15613691 Why not html and css as well? Are those easier or of less importance than Javascript, nodejs and react?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:25:20 2019 No.15616901 >kitchen porter Lol nigga you a prep cook

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:43:35 2019 No.15616986 >>15613507 you are a fucking idiot my guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:54:50 2019 No.15617079 >>15613584 Any more info because I am going back this spring. I’m twenty three

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:07:51 2019 No.15617170 >>15616895 Html and CSS aren't even programming

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:13:54 2019 No.15617209

>>15613550
>How long did the programming take to learn and what did you do with it?
Took me 6 months to learn enough MATLAB to design a PID controller. years later I taught myself enough C to make gantry robots do mostly what I want them to. Still working on that though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:24:59 2019 No.15617269 Do a 1 year masters in machine learning, data science or statistics. That's what I did and now I'm a data scientist

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:11:54 2019 No.15617510 >>15617269 That sounds like it might be enjoyable.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:46:26 2019 No.15617689

>>15613496
are you a fucking retard?!?! Psych is a freaking gold mine, entrance wage is up to 2times the average income! My wife studied it and her prospects are so much better than mine although she's literally just one of who knows how many psychologists without any merrits or exceptional skills, while I have an exotic PhD and am skill wise well within the top 10 in my state... where do you live, bro?

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:49:17 2019 No.15617701
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Alright boys, I'm gonna get an associates in Computer Information Systems which will teach me a bunch of front end dev stuff plus do some javascript etc. I'll also do courses online for JS and other web dev languages to really get the skill down. The degree also has you do business classes, I'm gonna pick the management ones.

Gonna get that $75k/yr front end developer job, bros. Wish me luck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:52:50 2019 No.15617712 >>15617701 if you're OP and you're about to drop psych to get into programming you just might be a giant fool... oh my fucking good you're going to regret this so very hard ... that being said: shit's 100% dependent of where you live though...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:58:13 2019 No.15617732 >>15617712 Not OP. Just some guy without a degree. I live in a tech hub, tons of programming jobs when I look at indeed, monster, Craigslist etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:58:25 2019 No.15617733 >>15613496 >makes 45k a year Top kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:59:53 2019 No.15617739 >>15617689 >psych ba >prospects he's better off learning how to trade you fucking liar t. psych/phil ba

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:00:39 2019 No.15617741

>>15613496
Yes, there are loads of girls doing psych at the moment. Yes, very few realise the work it takes to become qualified. Most go into other roles. My gf just completed her masters in psych and got straight onto the assistant role before her doctorate. She had one of the top grades in her year from one of the best universities.

So to say the course is a waste of time is very wrong. There's a very high demand for psych therapies atm. It's simply the case that you haven't got what you should have from the course.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:11:23 2019 No.15617774

>>15617739
that's literally brainfart posting from your side. Again; my wife (100% John Doe psychologist) can on spot slip into any random half time psych job and still earn double my wage (t. teacher at university). Also, I started programming at the age of 10 and know the system and prospects in this field quite well, I decided against and choose some exotic stuff instead - yeah, my fault but anyhow ... just comparing programming and psych it's not even funny anymore: psych is a FUCKING GOLD MINE (probably easy within the top 10) while programming is just random bimbo stuff with low expectations ... at least here in germany.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:22:49 2019 No.15617819 just be attractive

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:26:46 2019 No.15617842 >>15617774 >at least here in germany Lmao. A comp sci degree will get you a $100k/yr. Software developer job in USA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:40:25 2019 No.15617888 >>15613496 >Don't do psychology as a major in college. Too late lol. I feel your pain, bro. Working dead end job at retail. I'm 30 and want to kill myself every day tor being such a loser.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:42:57 2019 No.15617895 >>15616895 html and css is so basic you'll pick it up along the courses

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 05:11:35 2019 No.15618001

>>15617842
Yeah like everyone has already told you employers in Europe/Asia view programming as a shit tier job that pajeets can do and will not pay for such work. Psychology is a much more valuable field. It is actually the hardest program to get into in my country, even harder than medicine

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 05:16:04 2019 No.15618020 >>15617269 What pay and what country? I did a psych degree, now make £52k in uk as an accountant so not too bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 05:25:09 2019 No.15618067 I did psychology too, currently making 80k. Didn't even get a masters degree, only bachelors. The trick is knowing what job to get. Dishwasher gayboi is not the right job btw. I'm a nurse. Hate my job but at least it pays the bills.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 05:52:03 2019 No.15618188 >>15615685 This is incredible bullshit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 05:57:03 2019 No.15618208 >>15618001 Sucks for you bros. I find it fitting that eurosoys would value a feminine meme degree like psychology over an actual productive degree like comp sci.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 05:59:34 2019 No.15618220 >>15617842 Programmers are fucking bottom of the barrel neckbeards here, they often only do tech support shit as well. Europe at the very least treats you Comp Sci vermin the way you deserve to be treated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:06:17 2019 No.15618257 >>15618220 >all this asshurt Wew lad. >they often only do tech support shit as well. I guess you eurokeks don't have any tech industry.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:08:47 2019 No.15618273

>>15618208
>feminine and masculine degrees
This is exactly why Europe does not value you code monkeys, youre like indian males that steal your jobs: fat, unhygienic losers, with inbred misogynistic binary thinking, sex driven, and incompetent in human relations on the most basic levels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:10:53 2019 No.15618285 >>15618273 >muh misogyny! ;_; Lol ok weakling. Try lifting some weights you pussy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:13:25 2019 No.15618302 File: 9 KB, 231x218, 1554344381118.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15618273 This is your actual face right now.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:18:37 2019 No.15618327

>>15618208
>productive degree like comp sci.
Lmao
>feminine degree
No such thing

>>15618220
This

>>15618257
It is just the fact that code monkeys are not valuable anywhere outside meme valley. If you want money you become an investment banker or similar finance chad

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:38:07 2019 No.15618435 >>15618327 >code monkeys are not valuable anywhere outside meme valley. Lmao. They're highly paid across the USA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:40:38 2019 No.15618447 >>15618327 >If you want money you become an investment banker or similar finance chad >just become a turbo jew I can respect people for making their money but that is literally some of the most unproductive shit one could do.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:51:11 2019 No.15618507
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>>15618285
>>15618302
>>15618257
/pol/ and incelpilled

Dont worry you limp dick larpers, I actually overheadpress 200lb
Nice try though, I'll be waiting for the next reply
>youre not big, youre fat
Yeah, post your neckbeard bods and we'll see about that you virgins.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 07:18:49 2019 No.15618659 >>15613496 In case you are still reading. Go back... I went forward got a bach got a mag. Went HR as psych was not working. Hr is not worth either. It is not wort it....money ia horrible. Hours are long... huge competition by Stacies

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 07:20:01 2019 No.15618669 >>15613807 I have a chance to do this. Is it worth it bros? 45k in europe vs 65k in usa doesn't sound like a big difference too. Especially considering I'm in italy where this is already a top 10% salary...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 07:39:42 2019 No.15618783 >>15618669 Yes. You'll get paid more and taxed far less.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:07:50 2019 No.15618931

>>15613496
Seems like you didn't do you due diligence, nah Psychology can be useful, you just need 8 years education, a masters and docterate (PhD) cause yknow, its a medical field? You need to actually go through proper med school. SURE, you could do 4 years for a bachelors and be an HR rep, but fuck that. I dropped Psych after 2 years, switcthed to forensic investigation

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:34:27 2019 No.15619168 28 and still have 2+ years to finish degree in administration while working FT. Is it over for me, bros?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:36:22 2019 No.15619193 >>15615685 employers only care about your portfolio

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:05:09 2019 No.15619411 >>15618931 >forensic investigation You sure that's a better choice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:08:16 2019 No.15619444 >>15613496 >>15613496 GET ONE IN RISK MANAGEMENT OR SOME SORT OF ACTUARIAL SCIENCE MY GOD

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:30:05 2019 No.15619614 >>15613496 >WHAT DO? Open your counseling practice and charge $300 an hour for noding your head gently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:35:28 2019 No.15619649 Youre just getting started. Fuck that chick. Fuck that dude. Figure out what you like to do, make a career out of it. Not sure? Look into jobs in need the next 5-10 years from now. Or, learn a trade. I repeat, fuck that chick.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:36:46 2019 No.15619653
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>>15613496
psychology like economic degrees are both pseudo sciences, not hard-real-sciences such as math or physics. they are based on opinions and beliefs. there is still up to this date no placebo-controlled studies that show cognitive therapies (talk therapy) works at anything better than short term placebo effect

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:38:34 2019 No.15619663 >>15613496 buy holo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:39:52 2019 No.15619675 >>15618783 In detroit tho?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:42:26 2019 No.15619692 >>15613518 He’s a eurocuck. Their salaries are all really low. Doctors make like 85k over there kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:42:28 2019 No.15619693 >>15619653 leave it to a STEMfag to be into badly drawn anime fan art of ghiburri movies while discussing real vs fake sciences

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:44:36 2019 No.15619709 >>15618783 yeah but with what tripple the cost of living. You just can't compare US and euro wages. 45k is solid pay in europe you can easily afford a house and feed a family of five ...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:46:24 2019 No.15619726 >>15613612 You have been saying this since 2015 and it’s still isb’t true, just got a developer job in Norway btw, see ya losers.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:46:31 2019 No.15619727

>>15619692
Europe's benefits are far greater, and at the very least our medical system isnt built around extorting as much from a vulnerable person as physicallx possible. Almost all of "your" health problems stem from the fact that your doctors work under the system of a liberal economy, whereas in Europe the state as well as the people have an interest in minimizing the down time of a worker and maximizing his well being
Im not trying to bash amerikeks but you can not really think that making X number of virtual moneys more and owning x amount of property gives you a better more fulfilled life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:47:57 2019 No.15619733 >>15619653 psych here is half math half medicine (you literally attend the same courses) ... like dozen of bizraelis worte before: it's two different stories depending on where you live

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:48:31 2019 No.15619737
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>>15619693
im not a yuuuge fan of stem degrees either, most people you encounter in stem classes are utterly stupid. and the degrees can be very bland and boring too with not much real world use.
but i have no bias saying math is real science and psychology and economy, social sciences are not SCIENCE at all but beliefs teaching

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:50:53 2019 No.15619753 >>15613496 Just become a school psychologist, every school has one and its a piss easy job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:52:15 2019 No.15619763 >>15619727 >this entire paragraph of cope and incorrect statements To be honest, if I was as cucked as you I'd probably be coping too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:53:42 2019 No.15619775 >>15619763 >ure incorrect and copin xD Ok murikek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:55:34 2019 No.15619791 >>15613518 he didnt even say where he's from, but guess how i know your a burger, as if in burgerland there arent huge differences in pay

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:58:49 2019 No.15619822 >>15619775 >more cope Ok europoor

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:59:14 2019 No.15619826
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>>15613899
Hypothetically, say I was already in a high paying job but where I have a lot of downtime where I can dick around on my computer. How long would it take to get my programming skills to a point where I could earn extra money doing remote work? Im >130IQ and have some very basic programming skills from a math undergrad, but I've forgotten a lot of it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:22:18 2019 No.15620000 >>15618001 Sweden?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:29:06 2019 No.15620055 >>15620000 Not him but: Germany. If you dont have straight As you dont even have to apply. There are ways to study it other than being a fucking school slave but it usually costs some money or you'll have to wait 5 years or so to get in

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:32:44 2019 No.15620071 >>15620055 Strange. Looking at online-university, the prerequisites for many psych-courses are actually lower than astrology (the esoteric thing which teaches palm-reading and co)... Also Germany.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:38:11 2019 No.15620125 >>15613496 >45k/yr Oh boi am I laffin You fucking yanks, even adjusted fir exchange rate that’s not even minimum wage in Australia

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:39:46 2019 No.15620143 >>15620055 that's so strange to me. Where I live psychology is a meme degree. Still somewhat popular but not terribly hard to get into. The most competitive courses are medicine, dentistry and law Do psychologists in Germany make a lot of money?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:41:04 2019 No.15620159 >>15620071 Perhaps because you can extort the latter much better? Regardless, check out actual universities and look at "Wartesemester" charts, Psych and Medicine are always at the top

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:44:46 2019 No.15620188

Paycology is one of best subjects to take. You can literally work anywhere and with anything you want. You can work from home or have an office. You can even do your job when you are on a beach in thailand.

People who think psycology is only helping emo kids are idiots.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:51:17 2019 No.15620237 >>15618435 >They're highly paid across the USA. Maybe, but nowhere else >>15618447 >most unproductive shit one could do Financial workers are needed and in my opinion more productive than someone working on update #369 for useless app #998.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:51:42 2019 No.15620238 >>15620125 Anon, I have some bad news. You're a retard. First OP is european. Second, even if he was American your minimum wage is $27k USD, a fraction of 45k.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:54:11 2019 No.15620252 >>15620237 >Maybe, but nowhere else So paid well in the only place that matters? Sounds fine to me. >investment banker kikes are (((needed))) Lol.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:58:30 2019 No.15620289

>>15613496
Kinda feeling this anon
Started the first year of masters for anthropology, wanted to work at a CRM firm but the idea of being away from home for weeks at a time had pretty much lost its appeal and academic or museum jobs are hard to come by

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:00:22 2019 No.15620309 >>15619653 Everything you wrote is bullshit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:02:26 2019 No.15620323 >>15613496 It's going to be okay, anon. I majored in anthropology and went into trade work. What is your debt level like?

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:06:25 2019 No.15620357

>>15620143
Everyone in Germany knows that being a doctor nowadays is horrible, dentistry can pay very well I guess, law is just what every rich clueless kid does, same with medicine. Its generally associated with high status but its a shit job here. Psychology is sexy, its an actual intellectual pursuit, it pays well, it gives you the option to do lots ot things as well.
Its highly sought after.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:08:47 2019 No.15620374 >>15620252 >So paid well in the only place that matters? Sounds fine to me Arrogant as always. No European I know would move to the US even for 3x the money >investment banker kikes are (((needed))) Sure they are

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:09:02 2019 No.15620380 >>15620252 >being a /pol/cel unironically wew

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:09:38 2019 No.15620388 >>15613496 my wife is in the same boat. luckily for her she has me to clean up all her messes in life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:12:26 2019 No.15620414 >>15619826 >hypothetically my IQ is over 130 >someone hand hold me a ballpark estimation of how long it would take to be a programmer You don't sound too fucking smart

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:14:47 2019 No.15620433 >>15620380 >No European I know would move to the US even for 3x the money That's weird because you guys are constantly moving here in search of better opportunity. >>15620380 You don't even have a girlfriend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:15:32 2019 No.15620442 >>15613496 You can easily make 30 -35k after graduation as psychology undergraduate in London. Its your problem that you cant find the job, i speak from my experience

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:18:29 2019 No.15620467 >>15614345 Being this retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:21:45 2019 No.15620499 >>15620238 I think $20 an hour is around 40k so 27 is probably higher than 45k unless you are also taking currency conversion into consideration?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:23:59 2019 No.15620515 >>15613496 Fellow psych major here. If you cant get a masters focused on Industrial or Cognitive, don't even bother.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:30:18 2019 No.15620573 What careers are there for history majors?

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:34:14 2019 No.15620609

>>15620499
>Australia's minimum wage will be raised by 3 percent to AUD 740.8 a week starting on July 1st, 2019
That's 38.5k aud/yr. Conversion to USD is 0.68, so that's 26.2k USD.

>unless you are also taking currency conversion into consideration?
Are you retarded? Why wouldn't you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:44:26 2019 No.15620712 >>15620573 Teaching or working in a museum. You may also be able to do some journalist/writing work due to how heavy research and writing most history degrees are.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:50:19 2019 No.15620760

>>15613496
I quit my degree in Biology (because FUCK working in a lab every day). At 23 I thought life was going to be majorly shit.
Found work in Oil at 24 and made good money.. but quit because it obliterated everything social about my life. I learned Money is worthless without people to enjoy it with.
At 27 I started studying Computing Degree, now 3 years later working in IT Operations for a blue chip.
Don't give up hope. You can change direction at any time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:53:03 2019 No.15620780 You're just 22 dumbass

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:55:46 2019 No.15620808 join the military as an officer

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