/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.15544390]

If you’re a working person there is zero reason for you to support capitalism. You’re just a slave so the rich can get even richer through your labor.

[Anonymous No.15544397]

>>15544390
i’m a crypto neet. thanks capitalism!

[Anonymous No.15544400]

B-B-B-BUT the ONLY way it's POSSIBLE for the planet to function, is if i'm incredibly rich and everyone else does what i say. NO alternative if possible ever, now get back to work.
>uprising when?

[Anonymous No.15544411]

kick out every foreigner, replace every politician with a nationalist that doesn't hate us and i'll support socialism

[Anonymous No.15544412]

>>15544390
I don't love capitalism but I sure hate commies and their thieving ideology.

[Anonymous No.15544414]

>>15544411
>nationalist

[Anonymous No.15544419]

where's my capital? it's on the blockchain you disgusting commie subhuman. now back away at once. any closer and I will have to consider this a self defense situation.

[Anonymous No.15544420]

>>15544390
idiot, capitalism is just private ownership of the means of production. who tf should have them if not people/families who bought them? goverment?

[Anonymous No.15544423]

>>15544414
wot of it?
i don't really care if we have capitalism or socialism.

[Anonymous No.15544430]

how could someone like a system where they personally don't have exclusive control over literally everything and everyone?

[Anonymous No.15544435]

>>15544423
I don't think anyone should ever be taxed more than 50% in any bracket, regardless of total earnings
Fight me bernie bro

[Anonymous No.15544440]

>>15544435
most retarded post ever made on this site

[Anonymous No.15544442]

>>15544423
So edgy

[Anonymous No.15544451]

The whole collapse of any meaningful dialogue about inequality, work and wages into this utterly retarded and meaningless capitalist/communist extreme dichotomy, where one side is arguing about feudalist neoliberalism and the other side is arguing about gulag communism, is proof that people are just too fucking retarded to engage in meaningful discussion and need to take highly polarised opinions fed only by their own echo chambers in the place of actually having to engage with any of the complexity that these unbelievably nuanced subjects demand.
People are fucking idiots and these discussions are fucking idiotic.

[Anonymous No.15544453]

>>15544435
>>15544442
ok? you can argue about tax brackets all day. i'll vote and support whichever gets the population back over 95% native.

[Anonymous No.15544455]

>>15544390
I've been going down the commie hole recently. It's a shame because almost every commie is a total faggot, but everyone who defends capitalism seems to be a yuppie. The only good one was Milton Friedman, but his views seem based on his utopia of 20th century America.

[Anonymous No.15544461]

>>15544451
radical centrist xD

[Anonymous No.15544463]

>>15544453
Ok, Mr. Adolf

[Anonymous No.15544464]

>>15544390
I do own my car, and even if I didn't, at least I would have one. Under communism that would be a luxury that I couldn't afford.

[Anonymous No.15544477]

but unironically the point is that it's better to live in a society where other people have capital than to live in a society where nobody has capital

[Anonymous No.15544553]

>>15544461
I'm not even a centrist I just think nobody is even interested in engaging in a meaningful discussion that doesn't just involve strawmanning the other extreme and then yelling on their soapbox.

[Anonymous No.15544560]

>>15544553
if i can't label you then i cant whip out one of my prepackaged arguments NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15544562]

We love economic freedom

[Anonymous No.15544566]

>>15544560
kek sorry to disappoint

[Anonymous No.15544580]

>>15544390

So we should have a command economy and appoint you supreme leader for life, right?

Maybe instead you could fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15544589]

>>15544461
anon specifically lamented meaningless dialogue, not hypothetical meaningless differences (= radical centrist meme). xDing at him only proves the point

[Anonymous No.15544616]

>>15544419
based

[Anonymous No.15544626]

>>15544390
Capitalism is great. Democracy is the problem. Creatures like you shouldn't have access to any form of power, not even through voting or free expression.

[Anonymous No.15544634]

>>15544423
this.
I would happily be taxed 90% if it meant living in a racially homogenous society.

[Anonymous No.15544659]

>>15544634
just move to a country town. It's so racially homogenous that everyone is related.

[Anonymous No.15544666]

>>15544390
Bitches be like "i love communism" but like okay wheres your anything? Wheres your commune? You dont even have bread.

[Anonymous No.15544678]

>>15544659
In Pakistan, yeah

[Anonymous No.15544681]

>>15544553
If a faggot central state redistribution asshole wants to take part of my income to fund what a bunch of individual actors deem a worthy cause he is an enemy end of discussion.

[Anonymous No.15544686]

>>15544411
The real redpill

>N-N-NO GOY! CONSOLIDATE MORE POWER IN YOUR GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF IN CORPORATIONS! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY ARE BOTH SIDES OF THE SAME COIN AND NOT THE REAL PROBLEM?!

[Anonymous No.15544695]

>>15544390
>If you’re a working person there is zero reason for you to support capitalism. You’re just a slave so the rich can get even richer through your labor.
But in communism you're just a slave so the party members can get richer through your labor. At least with capitalism you can still have some fun instead of just eating shit 24/7.

[Anonymous No.15544705]

>>15544666
Satan speaks the truth, nobody is forcing them to wagecuck, there's nothing stopping commies from dropping out of Capitalist society right now and going to live on a self-sufficient commune like hippies have been doing for the last 60 years

[Anonymous No.15544722]

>>15544553

No argument will ever convince me that I need to hand more of my hard earned money and economic freedom to rent seeking faggots using state violence to try and enact their own own spin on utopia. I don't want a dialogue, I want to get as far away from these cultists as possible.

[Anonymous No.15544750]

>>15544705
But then they can't have their communist scarcity-free utopia since they can't expropriate the technological and logistical creation of better people, since as it turns out commies are usually retards who just do drugs and butt fuck each other all day when left to their own devices.

[Anonymous No.15544760]

>>15544686
Corporations are a currency (libra) and a private army away from being sovergn entities

[Anonymous No.15544765]

>>15544390
Even idiots like you who are so garbage at managing capital that you have none to your name benefit from the efficient management of capital by your cognitive betters under free market capitalism.

[Anonymous No.15544770]

>>15544666
Sick satanic full house digits eternally btfoing commies and perennially banishing their faggot asses to the void.

[Anonymous No.15544843]

>>15544681
>>15544722
>strawmans the other extreme and yells on their soapbox

[Anonymous No.15544854]

>>15544390
It's literally the exact same under communism though. The only difference is the fact that you can make it under capitalism, sure it takes hard work but with enough IQ you will be well off without a doubt.
The people complaining about student debt and being "kept down by society" are actual retards that thought a degree in political science or art would support a spoiled lifestyle with daily Starbucks, fat condo, a tesla, etc etc.

[Anonymous No.15544870]

https://me.me/i/when-you-defend-capitalism-but-youhave-no-capital-glip-cm-basically-38d71d226a7d498f980542533786d2dd

[Anonymous No.15544881]

>>15544390

i own my own meme factory, myself, i own the memes of production.

[Anonymous No.15544902]

>>15544854
I didn't expect anything, I just don't want to be working homeless :(

[Anonymous No.15544910]

>>15544765
This

>i dont have a business so businesses are bad mkay

[Anonymous No.15544983]

Under communism everyone gets a free car

[Anonymous No.15545006]

>>15544390
I have an online business. I work from home whenever I want. I don't use an alarm. I live free.

But yah you're right for 99% of people it's not a good thing. Good for me though.

[Anonymous No.15545021]

>>15544390
>You’re just a slave
Implies commies aren't slaves

[Anonymous No.15545049]

>>15544390
Nice. So when communism is finally implemented you are happy to work the fields or as a garbage man, right?

You won't reply in good faith ;)

[Anonymous No.15545063]

>>15544435
>Supports a 50% tax rate but not a 50.0001% tax rate.

[Anonymous No.15545075]

>>15545063
Under what circumstance does someone else deserve more than half of something ive worked to earn

[Anonymous No.15545088]

>>15545049
Umm sweetie I'll be a costume designer for the red army. Field work will be reserved for the Nazi slave underclass

[Anonymous No.15545101]

>>15544390
>woman having any reasonable opinion on economic structures
>spends her time on social media
I hate this clown world. She's probably going to end up as a lonely cat lady at best without any grandkids all because of some hooknosed philosophy professor

[Anonymous No.15545118]

>>15544390
People can't all be bosses or landlords you know?
There always be "oppressed" people.

[Anonymous No.15545135]

>>15544390
> If you're a working person there is zero reason for you to not want to pay much higher taxes for social programs you will never qualify for if you're white and make more than $30,000.
Wtf I love socialism now

[Anonymous No.15545136]

>>15545075
Under what circumstances does someone deserve half of what you've earned?

[Anonymous No.15545321]

>>15544843
They're not strawmanning.

[Anonymous No.15545487]

>>15544390
>keynesian economy
>capitalist
saged, discarded

[Anonymous No.15545642]

>>15544626
B A S E D

[Anonymous No.15545893]

I grew up utterly destitute, in a trailer raised by drug addicted, mentally ill parents. I worked hard anyway and now own 5 properties and a bunch of crypto. I’m a retired landlord NEET and not even 40 yet. Capitalism made that possible. If I felt like OP when I had nothing, I would still have nothing. Goddamn, communists are stupid. They’re gonna win though, I think. Too many dindus and gibsmedats are voting now. We’ll be Venezuela in my lifetime. Find someplace safe before the chimpout.

[Anonymous No.15545972]

>>15545893
Communists can't "win". Getting the system they want will render them far more miserable than they already are. They flock to a broken ideology because they are innately broken people.

[Anonymous No.15545974]

>>15544553
Dialogue is for stable, culturally and ethnically homogeneous societies, not for rapidly degenerating multi ethnic/cultural globohomo loving shitholes we live in.

Btw the willingness to compromise from the right has been the reason it lost the culture war in the west ever since the end of WW2.
I don't want to hear shit from leftists, I will just keep hating them and oppose them.

[Anonymous No.15546035]

state is shit
smart contracts and automated trustless protocols are the only sensible choices for services

trust is for cucks

[Anonymous No.15546049]

>>15545893
communism is just envy on full overdrive, to the point of self destructive actions (but on the scale of countries instead of just yourself)
a small amount of people manage to get a higher amount of resources thanks to a combination of intelligence, hard work and pure luck. this creates inequality. the solution?

lol just make social mobility illegal!!1 now everyone starves together so it's fair! the poor are suffering even more due to your shitty system, but hey at least we are all equally miserable.

[Anonymous No.15546067]

Money of us are in fact partial owners of companies just based on the stock portfolios of our retirement plans. It's easy as fuck to passively own shares in companies

[Anonymous No.15546112]

>>15545974
>he thinks if a society is culturally and ethnically homogeneous, it's problems are fixed

YIKES

[Anonymous No.15546119]

>>15544411
Nice digits comrade

[Anonymous No.15546177]

>>15544411
This. National socialism is the only true redpill. The SJW Marxist Socialists type are beyond retarded. Giving unlimited power to Jews that hate us and also subsidizing millions of niggers who leech off the system. What could possible go wrong? Nobody wants to work anymore and society crumbles the way of Venezuela. Hooray.

[Anonymous No.15546207]

>>15544390
>you don't even own your car
Because capitalism allows for ride-shares.

[Anonymous No.15546215]

>>15545972
>Communists can't "win". Getting the system they want will render them far more miserable than they already are.

Well at least they (useful idiots) get executed afterwards.

[Anonymous No.15546226]

>>15544411
True understanding. Socialism as it stands is a thinly-veiled wealth transfer to squatamalen peasants.

[Anonymous No.15546230]

>>15544390
dudes be like 'i love communism' like okay wheres your job? wheres your food? you havent had a meal in 3 weeks

[Anonymous No.15546236]

i dont post this to btag but i inherited some money from my parents and even then i refused to settle and built my own net worth without even using my inheritance, i cant do that in a communist system
btw im not rich but neither a worker

[Anonymous No.15546256]

>>15546112
Take a look at Vermont. Deep blue state, 90%+ white pop. low crime rate + high gun ownership/culture.

[Anonymous No.15546538]

>>15544390
Will communism make me rich?

[Anonymous No.15546557]

Communism should take the freedom pill.
Individuals>collective

[Anonymous No.15546676]

Only poor people whine about capitalism. You're a pathetic capitalist and you'll be a pathetic communist.

[Anonymous No.15546688]

>>15546112
Found the kike.

[Anonymous No.15546696]

>>15544451
Oh my goodness it's like hegelian dialect in action.

[Anonymous No.15547295]

>>15546112
They get pretty damned close. At least with wypipo. Look at the Scandi countries of 30 years ago.

[Anonymous No.15547308]

>>15546236
>without even using my inheritance,
That's what you think. You always knew, in the back of your mind, that you could fall back on it. So you could take bigger risks, and reap greater rewards.

[Anonymous No.15547540]

>>15547308
this
my whole outlook changed once I realized my parents actually had some money

[Anonymous No.15548218]

>>15544765
>Efficient management of capital
>Choosing to build lambos and megayachts instead of maintaining basic infrastructure and feeding everyone
Good point, only through capitalism can the human race effectively choose how to deploy resources.

[Anonymous No.15548254]

>>15544390
Capitalism is by no means a good system, but it's better than communism.

[Anonymous No.15548298]

>if I canct be rich, noone should!

[Anonymous No.15548299]

>>15548218
>Choosing to build lambos and megayachts instead of maintaining basic infrastructure
Private companies are building lambos. They are succeeding.
Governments are in charge of things like basic infrastructure. Central planning. "Management of capital," or in this case, funds from taxation. Depending on where you live, they're not always succeeding.

>feeding everyone
Oh boohoo, think of poor Jamal and anon #15548218, lmao who gives a shit if you starve

[Anonymous No.15548378]

am I a wageslave if I slack in a government job?

[Anonymous No.15548392]

>>15548378
You're just a lazy slave

[Anonymous No.15548470]

>>15548299
Billionaires create the demand for lambos. When they decide to buy one, they are essentially saying that the best use for those raw materials and human labor available is to make them a fancy toy for their own personal use. How is an expensive toy an effective use of capital by my cognitive betters?

[Anonymous No.15548485]

>>15544390
JOIN US, COMRADE!

[Anonymous No.15548491]

>>15548299
Poor definition of success

[Anonymous No.15548501]

>>15548470
>>15548491
cope

[Anonymous No.15548513]

>>15548501
Why even waste the time to post this

[Anonymous No.15548529]

[Anonymous No.15548548]

>>15548470
Your superiors know better how to allocate their own resources than you do commie scum, and personally, i would wholly endorse anyone getting a lambo or private jet at the expense of your food, water, and oxygen.

[Anonymous No.15548556]

>>15544390
I am a owner and I even hate capitalism. It's fundamentally there to exploit. Just like the bitcoin ponzi

[Anonymous No.15548606]

>>15548470
>How is an expensive toy an effective use of capital
It's effective for the same reason natural selection found playing to be an effective use of energy. The demand for fancy tech pushes tech forward and the demand for artistic expression pushes the mind forward. Cars contributed heavily to the development of the infrastructure we used to go to space which is the key to humanity surviving long term. Luxury items are the driving forces of all economic growth in history. Actual necessities are easily accessible in the modern civilized world. No commie meme has any relationship to reality.

[Anonymous No.15548609]

>>15548548
>Triggered
What makes them superior? The fact that they inherited a company or a trust fund? That qualifies them to determine how resources are allocated? Flawless system.

[Anonymous No.15548633]

>>15548606
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. You certainly make a good point.

[Anonymous No.15548650]

>>15544451
this

[Anonymous No.15548862]

>>15548609
>triggered
I am triggered by commies in the same way that i am triggered by disease. Your existence is civilizational pestilence.

[Anonymous No.15548879]

>>15544390
She has a point though

[Anonymous No.15549129]

>>15544390
>zero reason
why are all threads like this created by such terribly stupid individuals?

[Anonymous No.15549318]

>>15544390
How do you know I don't own a factory? Did you just assume my class???

[Anonymous No.15549333]

>>15545136
Kek that's a good pic

[Anonymous No.15549345]

But what if you have a good job?

My buddy works at Costco. His hourly rate has hit max at $25.50 an hour. His job isn't that hard. He gets 3 weeks paid vacation, 401k match, health, dental.

So capitalism is serving him well and he works for someone else.

Capitalism is like fire, very beneficial when tightly controlled, but the moment it's given free reign it burns down everything

[Anonymous No.15549371]

Imagine being a loser leftypol piece of shit that will die alone

[Anonymous No.15549394]

in a non consumerist capitalist world everyone would work 5 hours a week and live like kings

[Anonymous No.15549413]

>>15549394

Capitalism depends on consumerism to survive

[Anonymous No.15549434]

>>15549413
no it doesn't

you would consume food, minor transportation and services here and there

[Anonymous No.15549461]

give me one decent alternative and then proceed to explain to me how you plan to implement it into modern society.

the capitalist boogeyman is stupid redditor logic. you don't blame an entire economic system for the abuses of the rich and powerful, you blame the rich and powerful for being asshole and start fixing shit from there. work with what you have rather than dreaming about some idealist nonsense

[Anonymous No.15549466]

>>15549434
How is that living like a king?

[Anonymous No.15549492]

>>15549466
what do you define as living like a king? buying the latest gadgets? kings never had the latest gadgets

[Anonymous No.15549514]

>>15549492
Having abundant access to the best things the world has to offer, not just having basic necessities.

[Anonymous No.15549522]

>>15549434

Explain how a capitalist society, which is dependent on ever increasing production, growth and consumption, doesn’t evolve into a consumerist society

[Anonymous No.15549548]

>>15549492
So you meant literally like a king in medieval times. lol

[Anonymous No.15549550]

>>15549522
>Production and consumption shouldn't increase when the population increases

[Anonymous No.15549566]

>>15549522
>which is dependent on ever increasing production
is this what your communist professors brainwashed you with? false premises lead to shit for brains arguments.

[Anonymous No.15549570]

>>15544390
>If you’re a working person there is zero reason for you to support capitalism
It's a system that guarantees me the best quality of life.
>You’re just a slave
I get to alienate my labour and sell it to the highest bidder, with whom I sign a mutually consensual contract.
>so the rich can get even richer through your labor
I'd have no one to sell me labour to if they didn't take a risk organizing a company beforehand. They get to enjoy more because they took more risk. I trade off income because I prefer security. Go get a loan from the bank and start a business if you want to trade off security for potentially higher income - no one's stopping you unless you're a retard with poor credit.

No one can beat my argument BTW.

[Anonymous No.15549587]

>>15549514
by that definition then everyone will have to work 60 hours a week for a small taste of that because you're looking at relativity and chasing the latest gadgets

>>15549522
capitalism has nothing to do with production growth and consumption - you can have a capitalist system where 100% of people own factories that produce their demands and are retired

no need for growth or increasing consumption or production at all

>>15549548
we live better than kings 100 years ago so once you get the essentials down the next step on the evolutionary chain is a laborless society

[Anonymous No.15549598]

>>15548254
>>15544390
Communism is not a system and neither is capitalism, these are just vague concepts. The "system" is a currency based economy. Capitalism is a philosophy.

You guys are ruining your own ability to think critically with imprecise language and meme words drilled into you by (them). They control the media and education, so they control the popular lexicon, and because they control the langauge, which is what your internal monologue is (thought), it means they control your thought. Thought cannot travel upon roads which language has not laid.

This is literally most of what magic is. Influencing yout environment/influencing thought through occulted (hidden) communication and suggestion. It is real and fucking powerful and if you do not make yourself aware of this kind of magic, you will be the enchanted and not the enchanter.

>captialism good
>communism bad
>captialism bad
>communism good

You think you are one another's antithesis but both parties are an expression of the same limiting belief system. This is why (they) are sitting on the throne at the head of finance and social influence and you're not; they never lost their connection to what magic is and how to utilise it, and you did because Christianity deleted it for it's own insular political agenda. Occulted symbols, jargon, communication, etc; what do you think law and finance is and why do you think so few people understand those games, and why do you think the people who do understand those games are more powerful than those who do not.

[Anonymous No.15549599]

>>15549570
>red ID

[Anonymous No.15549656]

>>15549587

That’s only possible in some kind of small, amish style community where people are largely self sufficient and division of labor doesn’t exist. Also thy make a conscious effort not to give into materialism and never ending consumption.

>>15549550

Straw man, but there is a differebce between food production increasing and the population buying 4 tv’s per capita versus one.

>>15549566

It literally is, go read about things like overproduction, market saturation planned obsolescence and the development of modern advertising.

At least do some reading on the Hong you blindly defend

[Anonymous No.15549674]

>>15549599
As I said, no one can beat my argument. Great job observing a colour - go look at something shiny, retard.

[Anonymous No.15549764]

>>15545075
>>15544435
>half
>doesn't understand tax brackets
Holy shit I'm definitely on /biz/. Fucking retards

[Anonymous No.15549791]

There is a reason. It's called stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.15549829]

>>15549598
the financial system is separate from capitalism, it's a predatory system designed to extract capital

[Anonymous No.15549831]

>>15544390
Listen you fantastically retarded motherfucker. I am only going to explain this once: There is no 'supporting' capitalism. There is no 'capitalist system.' Capitalism is simply the default state of human interactions when there is no force/violence being used. All economic interactions that don't involve violence are a negotiation. This is what capitalism is. By logical extension, ALL GOVERNMENT IS AN ABERRATION IN AN OTHERWISE UNIMPEDED MARKET.

The biggest obstacle to human prosperity are economically illiterate cunts like yourself who think that government is anything other than a group of people with more weapons than you, taking your money and spending it on counterproductive (net negative) projects/wars/programs.

Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.15549877]

>>15544390
If it werent for capitalism you wouldnt be able to browse 4chan you idiot

[Anonymous No.15549919]

>>15549656
>Straw man, but there is a differebce between food production increasing and the population buying 4 tv’s per capita versus one.

You should clarify your argument. Are you arguing for a rationing system?

[Anonymous No.15550040]

>>15544390
>be me, commie in my 30s
>finish my job at the stinky fish factory
>waiting for my kids to come home, early this morning the went to work the fields and now they do preparations on the stadiums to mark the birthday of our glorious overlord
> go with them to the market to buy our daily bread using a card, because only the master has to deal with filthy money trading what the country produces with foreigners
>shelves are almost empty because every shopkeeper sells everything off the books and only to his relatives
>oh well
> come back to our apartments that the overlord that offered us in his mercy
> go to bed with my four kids, because that's the minimum requirement, the master needs more of us because he loves us so much
Maybe you should read some fucking things that happened in communism, not just the shitty theories that those who live and comfort and are bored come up with
t. kid whose parents lived in communism

[Anonymous No.15550063]

>>15544390
Yeah, it's the worst system except for everything else we've tried.

[Anonymous No.15550123]

>>15544453
>95% native.
native americans like where this is going

[Anonymous No.15550207]

lets break down what is capitalism when trading, in cap two people are allowed to trade equally but it turns out unequal for some reason, in communism when you trade you are trading with the gov equally but it more than likely will be unequal so cap vs com, cap wins

[Anonymous No.15550230]

i go to my factory 5 days a week. In the bank and in equities & commodities. I own my car.
And that's much more dumb than asking, "You won't be the Commisar, why support communism?"

[Anonymous No.15550757]

>>15544390
Ok Op I get it. Now propose a solution that isn't even worse...

Oh nothing now, you were talking so strongly a second ago but now sudden fucking silence.

[Anonymous No.15550771]

>>15544390
Why so many likes

[Anonymous No.15550812]

>>15550757
FUCKING REKT BASED AF

[Anonymous No.15550821]

>>15544390
America is a socialist country

[Anonymous No.15550870]

Real pure communism would benefit all and save the environment. All most everyone here is confusing autocratic socialism with communism. Technology will allow us to have a leaderless 100% equal and democratic community(communism) based society.

[Anonymous No.15550911]

>>15550870
>Technology will allow us to have a leaderless 100% equal and democratic community(communism) based society.

While you are half right someone has to write the algorithms. You also have other problems with communism which is that it ends up having to be 100% secular and its absolutely necessary to convince everyone that we are all equal which, until transhumanism equals things out, its absolute bullshit.

All we need right now to shut a lot of you muh communism retards up is a way to make sure you can verify the identity of every person and assign a wallet to that individual using a decentralized system. From there you can begin a UBI that does not require a government to issue out. That's the first step.

[Anonymous No.15550926]

>>15544390
i own property and stock. i have capital buddy.

[Anonymous No.15550939]

>>15550063
See picture:
https://i.ylilauta.org/21/a7375275.png

Reminds me of it every time I hear that kind of argument.

However, capitalism is the best economic system in the history of mankind. The poorest people in America are richer than the richest people in other countries. Capitalism has advanced humanity more in the past 20 years than perhaps any other time. There is no better system. So long as the rules of capitalism are followed:
-No monopolies
-No false advertising
-Pro-Patent/Copyright

Anyone with qualms about capitalism probably has something to do with the three rules above, which need to be followed for a perfect capitalist system.

[Anonymous No.15550946]

>>15544390
The alternative is starvation. I'll take capitalism, thanks.

[Anonymous No.15550952]

>>15544451
absolutely based, that's the explanation that's been sitting in my head for like 6 months, but you typed it out better than I could have

[Anonymous No.15550956]

>>15550939
>However, capitalism is the best economic system in the history of mankind.

Its the only economic system because it most closely matches what you need to allow people to trade goods and services using currency.

Anything else is a make pretend front end that gives the illusion that bartering isn't simply what we all end up doing in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15550970]

>>15544390
Baby, you just want others to take care of you, the child you are.

[Anonymous No.15550973]

>>15550911
>algorithms
Capitalism will invent and pay someone to create the tools of its own demise.
>secularism
Yes absolutely necessary. Why is religion still a factor in modern society. It should be treated like palm reading or rehab. If it works for you great but shouldn't have anything to do with laws or school or science. Why shouldn't even be treated as equals. We all bleed the same blood.

[Anonymous No.15550976]

>>15544435
I agree with you, fren
Have a great day

[Anonymous No.15551011]

>>15544390
Even those who own zero capital benefit from the capitalist produced products they consume. Start accumulating some fucking capital, kid.

[Anonymous No.15551034]

>>15544435
Me neither. Will flag out if I ever end up in that situation.

[Anonymous No.15551044]

>>15550973
I mostly agree with your points anon but most humans are too fucking stupid to be secular. We end up getting some crazy social Marxist bullshit that is fundamentally and variably false. You end up replacing religion with some new kind of religion and it always leads to mental retardation.


>>15550973
>Capitalism will invent and pay someone to create the tools of its own demise.

No
It will always be a combination of the two and it will likely not work how you envision it. Cryptocurrency right now is the combination of value and algorithms. Finance combined with C++ in its most pure form. That means all we need right now is a way to prevent people from being able to take the identity of multiple people and we can

RIGHT
NOW

Create a system that allows for an economic safety net in a fully capitalistic society. There wont be communism. Its impossible in a post internet post crypto world.

You cannot redistribute wealth anymore, the cat is out of the fucking bag. All you do at this point is vastly reward those of us who were smart enough to buy Monero at cheap prices. Do you really want those random morons to be the new ruling shadow class?

After crypto has been invented, wealth redistribution has become fundamentally impossible. Communism died with Bitcoin. You now officially have to destroy the internet in order for your shit communist society to be even remotely plausible.

[Anonymous No.15551048]

>>15544390
Yeah! I should be a slave held at gunpoint instead!

[Anonymous No.15551254]

>>15546676
Nooooo they won't be the easily replaceable farmhands or factory workers or conscripts they'll be the card carrying members partying all day, clearly

[Anonymous No.15551268]

>>15551254

>someday I’ll be a billionaire ;^)

[Anonymous No.15551288]

>>15544420
bullshit that would mean china is capitalist you commie fuckhead

[Anonymous No.15551313]

>>15544390
Only social retards and people that have absolutely no charisma thinks capitalism sucks. Capitalism is economic darwinism.. and you're about to go extinct.

[Anonymous No.15551330]

>>15546177
Yes of course, instead of giving unlimited power to Jews we should give unlimited power to some random arse nationalist ideologue instea. But only if they support your particular type of nationalism, of course!

[Anonymous No.15551333]

>>15551313

>Paris Hilton is a better person than a steelworker

[Anonymous No.15551389]

>>15544390
And still the rich give me job and money and the government keeps taking it from me.

[Anonymous No.15551453]

>whats it like to kill a man?
>I dont know, I've only ever killed communists

[Anonymous No.15551855]

>>15551044
What happens when the capitalist factory becomes fully automated? He has no employees. The product sold buys materials to manufacture more. The capitalist has created an AI and self sustaining system. Now who will buy his product? No workers being paid to make him profits. The capitalist will redistribution his own wealth, probably by means of universal income.
Universal income came from think tanks funded by louie vuitton and dolce & gabbana, as well as many other luxury brands, because they are worried about staying in business.

Now lets say we have a capitalist society with free healthcare and welfare. Economic safety nets, free education, etc. Now add universal income for those not making enough. How is that not a socialist society? And if this were to happen in America it would look just like any other autocratic socialist government.

[Anonymous No.15551887]

>>15544411
this. The absolute truth.

[Anonymous No.15551901]

>>15551855
The cost of free stuff is your freedom.

[Anonymous No.15551937]

>>15551901
Free choice is an illusion

[Anonymous No.15551986]

>>15551937
I have the freedom to call you a faggot.

[Anonymous No.15551990]

>>15551937
And? By freedom I mean that I can do with my money and body what I wanna do.

[Anonymous No.15552040]

>>15551986
>>15551990
And communism doesn’t need to change that. We could be living in a communist utopia discussing the pros and cons of a capitalist society. We can have communism and freedom of speech.

[Anonymous No.15552073]

>>15544765
>free market capitalism.

You mean Kike/Banker usury system?

[Anonymous No.15552113]

>>15544390
Buy 1 stock, congrats your now a "capitalist"

[Anonymous No.15552298]

>>15549598
high IQ post

[Anonymous No.15552313]

>>15544411
>gets replaced by a robot or software
welp so much for your nationalist bullshit

[Anonymous No.15552563]

>>15552040
In communism the state controls my body and money.

[Anonymous No.15552794]

>>15546112
When you're white, this is literally true. All 90%+ white countries have been neat places to live, with low crime and a comfy lifestyle (slavs aren't white). I saw the change myself in Sweden, we were much whiter when I was a kid and life was a fucking bliss. Now we have muslim gang rolling around with automatic weapons and grenades killing random people, and women fear going out alone due to all the raping.

[Anonymous No.15552899]

>>15548556
An*

[Anonymous No.15552982]

>>15544390
*is socially liberal without being rich or of a protected class*

[Anonymous No.15553353]

>>15551855
>What happens when the capitalist factory becomes fully automated?

You will still run into same problems. Not everyone can run every factory for every type of product. You are still going to have to deal with people who can hide billions of dollars in random shit coins. You are still going to have to maintain the machines.

Also, you are absolutely insane if you think everyone will one day simply be running their personal factories for everything... You get one choice, capitalism or more capitalism. Get used to it.

[Anonymous No.15553419]

Also, whenever I explain that we can enact universal basic income right now using cryptocurrency and all we need to do it is solve one fucking problem.

I get no reaction from fucking communism fags. Zero.

They
never
respond

The reason I think is because they don't actually want a social system that keeps us all out of poverty, they want our freedom. If we setup a system that does everything communism is supposed to do it wont be what they really want. They want slavery, they want us to fucking suffer.

So let me repeat myself, WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW. The only problem you need to solve is to make sure one person cannot have more than one wallet. This can be done a few different ways, but its the only thing holding us back from a UBI with additional benefits ect.

But you know, fuck that, its much better when we can enslave people and kill them because muh equality.

[Anonymous No.15553470]

>>15553419
We could create a much better system that works for everyone within a year if we chose to. That would make us all rich within 5. Instead everyone's getting worked up about stupid shit.

[Anonymous No.15553512]

>>15553470
Any system you might create that is better still requires a solution to the one wallet problem. So fucking shut the fuck up or solve.

Basically

> "hur der enslaving people is fun!"

Now I know why you even bothered to talk about the topic though. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.15553526]

>>15553512
I was agreeing with you dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.15553552]

>>15553526
To the gulags with you. You fucked your joke up because it didn't make any sense.

[Anonymous No.15553578]

>>15553552
LOL he was clearly agreeing with you 100% and didn't make any whatsoever joke you schizo

[Anonymous No.15553585]

>>15553552
LOL he was clearly agreeing with you 100% and didn't make any joke whatsoever you schizo

[Anonymous No.15553586]

>>15544390
>wheres your capital
imagine being so poor you don't have any capital, or this retard commie whore doesn't know what capital means

[Anonymous No.15553666]

>>15553585
>LOL he was clearly agreeing with you 100% and didn't make any joke whatsoever you schizo

He didn't understand the better thing doesn't fucking work if you cant do the simple thing first.

[Anonymous No.15553823]

>>15553419
>He wants to use violence to redistribute wealth and value
Grab a shotgun and redistribute a shell to your brain commie

[Anonymous No.15553868]

>>15544390
>where's your capital?
That's the ULTIMATE ROAST

[Anonymous No.15553918]

>>15545893
>I was a poorfag
>I became I capitalist
>now I exploit other poorfags
>feelsgoodman

[Anonymous No.15554400]

>>15553918

This. He just brags about ripping off other poor people and getting rich in their suffering. Landlords are the definition parasite. Even negotiating for something is just two people trying to rip off the other person as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.15554627]

>>15554400
Thank god I am not you.

[Anonymous No.15554644]

>>15554627

Where’s the lie?