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>Roach infested commie block warehouse
>$1200 a month in San Francisco
>No curtains allowed because of rape and junkies
>Parking and good not included

Who is dumb enough to live here? I mean, if you are making $300,000 or more, there is at least SOME argument for living there.

Why are people so stupid???

>> No.15511367

>>15511318
CA is the worst. You have to be a six figure earner to live in LA, and that’s even WITH rent caps. Can’t wait for the market to tank.

>> No.15511401

>>15511367
The market is BEYOND overvalued, no one with any common sense is moving there. You can pay 15M to move to Beverly Hills, but those prices won’t drop too much. It’s the “Middleclase” that will lose 65% in 12 months. The houses aren’t worth anything

>> No.15511416

>>15511367
Also, if you are making 100k, you can’t own. You are renting. Doubt any bank would give you a Mortgage was such low salary. 100k is like 65k after taxes

>> No.15511430

>>15511318
Stop being poor

>> No.15511548

>>15511430
There’s no justification for the housing prices that are currently set

>> No.15511577

>>15511318
A lot of these threads tend to focus on Southern California. Is Northern California housing reasonable?

>> No.15511611

People who are forced to move there for work and people who move there trying to make it in Hollywood. How do you think "casting agents" get so many would be models, actresses, and singers to sell their asses to the porn industry? Economic desperation drives the engine.

>> No.15511630

>>15511548
what's to justify? That's what people are willing to buy/sell at.

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>>15511577

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>>15511577
No

https://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/Box-man-living-San-Francisco-400-rent-Berkowitz-7215269.php

>> No.15511643

>>15511577
sf and LA are the worst obviously. but just as bad are santa cruz, monterey, and other nice coastal cities. sacramento isnt quite that bad yet, but its currently on route to getting there.

the only places with cheap rent in california are the shit holes like fresno, modesto, stockton, bakersfield, merced. basically hell on earth with no jobs, meth heads everywhere, and 110 degree desert heat. avoid.

>> No.15511651

>>15511643
You mean where the Mexican mafia control? Not even good prices there

>> No.15511663

>>15511630
Lot more selling going on currently. The prices are being inflated so the people with 90+ IQ’s can sell

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>>15511318
mfw live there

>> No.15511772

>>15511630
If no one can justify spending X amount for a house, it’s not actually worth X.

>> No.15511776

We have freedom. Kek.

>> No.15511780

just got a 2 bed 1 bath 900sqft for 2350/month in south bay area

>> No.15511792

>>15511780
No. That’s 5k MINIMUM

>> No.15511794

>>15511639
is that even legal?

>> No.15511855

I was told that making under 100k is equivalent to being a poorfag. I dont know how normies survive here. Actually I do know food stamps and government aid.

>> No.15511974

>>15511794
It’s not illegal to sleep in a box. It’s probably not legal to rent out a box to sleep in inside your house.

There is a difference between the two. The guy doing the renting is opening himself up to be sued into oblivion

>> No.15512232

>>15511855
>Living 10 to a house and gibs

>> No.15512498

>>15511367
i was checking my local areas foreclosures today and i found a property with a runned down house thats actually still livable with a half acre lot for just $15,000 and im actually going to buy it

>> No.15512528

Why is the housing market going so nuts in these places?

I think Americans were all up to their eyeballs in debt and living paycheck to paycheck. Whose buying these houses?

>> No.15512549

>>15512528

It's the same in most major cities.

>> No.15512574

>>15511630
Banks print money out of thin air to give to people to bid up the price of houses. People arent buying houses with their own money per se.

>> No.15512588

>>15512528
Chinks.

>> No.15512604

California is just a dump for dirty foreign money. In Irvine, chinks are buying houses on MLS listings and never moving in.

Why? They don't care if they lose 20-30% when the alternative is losing everything when Lighthizer brings the hammer next quarter.

The most hyperinflated housing markets are ones the Chinks know best.

London, Sydney, Melbourne, Vancouver, Toronto, Manhattan, Seatltle, Sf , Los Angeles and San Diego are all high gook populations.

Don't expect it to ever crash to zero for this reason. Still +10million hooks still lining up to get their money out.

>> No.15512624

>>15511792
>It’s probably not legal to rent out a box to sleep in inside your house.

yeah thats what i was referring to, but yeah i actually did find a place for 2350 2 bed, filled out application now waiting on response

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(contd)

See pic. It's a graph of Chinese foreign investment over the years. The last graph is NOT a bunch of Chinese deciding to invest coincidentally.

It's a get the fuck out of Dodge now panic stampede. California is just dumb lucky to be considered a safe bet to most chinks.

>> No.15512633

>>15512604
With pro-squatter laws, can't you just invade an empty house, try to be discreet until you've been there so long you can't be kicked out?

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>>15512604
>sydney

they NEED to stop coming up to newcastle (2 hours north) and buying everything. im fucking sick of it, get out sydneyfags fucking REEEEEEEEEEEE

also how did seattles housing market become inflated? it seems to be the odd one out of that list

>> No.15512653

>>15511577
You could move to some coastal backwater hick/spic town like fort bragg, place is nasty but the scenery is beautiful. Also, good luck finding something to do over there.

>> No.15512764

I get why rent is so expensive in California. What i don't get is why ANYONE would choose to live there.
I would rather move to Alaska and get some garbage manual labor job than live in that söyboy factory farm in OP's pic. What job or 'opportunity' could possibly be worth it?

>> No.15512853

>>15511318
>making 300k
Only senior engineers at big firms make that much. Most are making like 100-150k, which is pretty paltry there

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>>15511430
You're a retard for having this logic. Okay. Become the richest person in the world RIGHT NOW. What's stopping you, faggot?

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>>15511639
>(((Berkowitz)))

/pol/ is always right you little bitch

>> No.15513025

>>15511633
What the fuck!?

>> No.15513053

Gosh you guys. Wtf are that many of you that much of a brainlet?

California and “out west” has always been a place of destination. Remember your 4th grade class something about “manifest destiny” well guess what that was like to present terms the bitcoin and crypto meme. If you’re that retarded to hold crypto then you’re that retarded to have gone to California back in the gold rush.

>> No.15513081

>>15512635
Seattle is the largest construction market in the country right now. 76 tower cranes swinging right now.

Amazon / Microsoft has a lot to do with that, but it's mainly dirty gook money. Half the condos are empty right now but paid in full cash.

>> No.15513118

>>15513081
>dirty gook money
Explain

>> No.15513157

>>15511630

boomer boxes are not worth buying

i should know, my parents bought one and it's falling apart years later

there's community houses that are brand new and cost way less, they are out there.

>> No.15513329

>>15513118
Chinks wash their corrupt commie money through Macau casinos and buy Western real estate

>> No.15513351

>>15512528

Boomers, Indians, and Chinese.

When recession happens they are all gonna bathe in blood. I'll enjou that.

>> No.15513370

>>15512528
The Chinese. Thank the Ronald Reagan administration for that.

>> No.15513852

>>15512627
that's 2016 though, a pretty long time ago. What's happened since then?

>> No.15513898

>>15512498
>I found a half acre for $15,000 in California

not a fucking chance.

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>>15511318
Read the reviews for these places. The people who rent these pods love them.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g32655-d3382253-Reviews-PodShare-Los_Angeles_California.html

>> No.15514047

>>15511318
>>15514019
That one I linked to in LA is apparently $2,100 a month...

>> No.15514092

>>15514019
>>15514047
No fucking way...

These people just say they like it to make themselves feel better

>> No.15514097

>>15511633
>be millionaire
>live in a cuckshed

can't make this shit up

>> No.15514133

>>15511416
I know a guy making 350k + bonuses and he's still renting with a family.

>> No.15514152

>>15511639
A fucking skylight? Kek

>> No.15514317

>>15513329
Or...maybe they saved up and didn’t buy frivolous bullshit like most financial illiterate whites?

>> No.15514325

>>15513370
Ahhhh, the blame game. Victimizing yourself, wahhhhh, it’s their fault! Not mine and my ten credit cards that I use to buy unnecessary crap with.....

>> No.15514341

>>15512604
Dont forget Auckland. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.15514405

>>15511577
I'm from norcal and let me tell you..

All of my friends in college who were 'moved out' were either collecting tens of thousands extra in debt or 100% financed by mommy and daddy. There is no room for a low-middle income earner to live at any decent place in this state (or even most of the shittier places tbf). Anyone who is earning a low wage and lives in a decent area is either selling drugs or getting significant government aid.

>> No.15514503

>>15514317

LOL yeah the average salary in China is 1000 USD a month, the normie hardworking Chinese family man can totally afford to buy a 1m USD apartment cash up front... It would only take him 35 to 40 years saving 50% of his salary

>> No.15514539

>>15514503
The average Chinese person is not buying property, they are frugal like you wouldn't believe. The ones doing the buying are trust fund babies, families who got rich from mega corporations in China's tech and economic boom, black market providers, etc. and yes they are washing the fuck out of their money. Just like everywhere else in the world. You have to understand how easy it was to make money in China the past 15 years. See American company succeed, copy idea, get government's blessing and become mega millionaire. Put that money into real estate around the world, become billionaire.

>> No.15515229

>>15514317
Chinks are the kings of buying frivolous shit, just see what Vancouver city center turned into once they started pouring in (Prada stores, Rolex showrooms, etc.). Hell, their whole economy consists of investments that only generate value in the books

>> No.15515513

>>15512764
>What i don't get is why ANYONE would choose to live there.
girls.

>> No.15515719

Entire west coast is fucked. Cali is just the worst right now.

After I'm truly back on my feet I'm moving back east. Honestly don't really give a fuck where as long as I can find work. Even if I hit some kind of jackpot of a job there's no way I'd pay these prices. I remember a time not too long ago prices were 1/2-1/3 what they are now. It's like remembering 99 cent whoppers then they shoot up to 40 bucks a piece and you can no longer afford them. Then you get a job that pays 400 an hour...some people won't get all happy because now they could afford a whopper. It's still an overpriced burger no matter how much you make.

I know a guy that gets paid pretty decent in the software industry. He moved from a new neighborhood in a Seattle suburb to one of the recently super gentrified areas downtown. For no other reason than to feel like he's "made it". Pays a fortune for a tiny box studio that always smells like his cats litter box. Then bitches and moans about capitalism pricing out the poor when he's part of the fucking problem. It's hilarious because he tried to pull this rant at work and even his boss called him out on it. He shut up about it for awhile but started doing it again whenever he gets drunk.

>> No.15515957

>>15511367
>six figures
Then how do the niggers do it? There's several hundred thousand of them living in LA, no?

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>>15511639
>be an illustrator who could literally work any place in the country that has an internet connection
>choose to live in a box
Does this man even exist? Is this some kind of 4d chess ad campaign to open people up to the idea of living in boxes?

>> No.15516010

>>15512604
Why doesn't the gov simply pass a regulation that houses owned by investors who aren't American citizens must be occupied? Then at least the space would be rented out.

>> No.15516021

>>15514019
NPCs don’t have human souls

>> No.15516101

>>15514325
I ought to smack the black out of your dumb ass

>> No.15516166

>>15511318

not even good is included?

>> No.15516185

california is in a phase of gentrification. rich people come in, poor people get out

>> No.15516193

>>15512528
you dont actually need any money to buy a house. You just have to make the payments.

If you have had a job for 1.5+ years most any broker will make you a 30 year fixed mortgage. Then you break up that million dollars over 30 years of payments and suddenly your mortgage costs less than rent, even though the house cost 1.2 million.

>> No.15516229

>>15514097
Being a millionnaire isn't what used to be. In order to afford the millionaire lifestyle you need over $50 millions nowadays thanks to the inflation

>> No.15516257

>>15516010

What are you, some kinda Bernie Sanders supporter? Legislation that might improve the living standards of the average guy? Fuck off. How the hell am I gonna sell my boomerbox without the Chinese? The Mexicans I have doing my yard get paid less than minimum wage, they sure as hell can't afford it. You know it's a shame, they don't make Americans like they used to. They don't wanna do my dirty work for pennies, and they won't buy my house for millions. What good is this damn country anymore?

>> No.15516274

>>15516193
>you dont actually need any money to buy a house. You just have to make the payments.
Not in Europe. You have to jump through all sorts of stupid hoops for a loan. It's really fucking small businesses.

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>>15511318
>current company offer to move me to SF office
>we'll pay you 100k anon, it's expensive there
>do some quick calculations on it
>earn like 75k now with very low tax
>~35% tax in SF (according to workmates) so down to 65k right there
>fuck living with people so we'll say 3k a month rent in the city (conservatively) - 36k a year on renting a shithole, 35 to keep things simple, so down to 20k now
>I reckon if you mixed cooking and eating out cheaply, with come food in work (e.g. make eggs, fruit etc in the office), you could do $20 a day on food on average, just about. 20x365= 7.3k, say 7.5 to keep it simple, so we now have 12.5k
>in the extremely unlikely event that I didn't buy anything, go anywhere or do anything, I'd save ~1k a month, which is less than I currently save

Is this a ballpark accurate assessment?

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>>15515513
Why would anyone want Californian girls?

>> No.15517253

>>15512528
It's not just the US anymore. It's started everywhere, even in Europe. German speaking countries used to have cheap rents. Now prices are increasing annually. They've increased by so much in fact that the government has started to enforce rent caps and outright started to ban rent increases for the next 5 years. The worlds monetary system is about to collapse.

>> No.15517305

>>15511318
Because, like with almost all the losers on this board, you’re massively exaggerating things to justify you being unable to buy a house, support a family etc

Anyway the appeal of living there is
>very competitive environment, successful people swarm the place and some enjoy that sort of thing
>fantastic pay let’s you save insane amounts
>great weather
>so many things to do

>> No.15517338

>>15516383
You could easily have amazing meals daily for less than $10 if you know how to cook and prep.

The issue is the second you want to eat or go out in SF you're fucked. $10 for a beer is normal. I went to a rave not too far back. It was $30. I'm talking underground shit. If you want to see a more mainstream artist or go proper clubbing you're paying $60+ not to mention drinks/drugs. But SF is a funnnnnn fucking city.

Don't forget utilities and insurance. Not sure if your work covers it.

I'm from California and farily left leaning but CA is a perfect example of the complete and utter failure of mainstream liberalism. Richest state in the richest world on the planet yet we have the highest poverty rate in the country. Pathetic.

>> No.15517387

>>15517338
Literally just depends how smart/competent you are. Bachelors and above it’s the best place to live, if you’re a dumbass then yes you’re more likely to be in poverty cause successful people swarm the place raising prices and making it difficult to get a good job

>> No.15517415

>>15511748
is this real life brainlet bait?

>> No.15517442

>>15514019
>>15511318
imagine your such idiot to live there instead of just rent a place with a handful other people, pay the same or less, have more space and know or choose people you live with

i can only imagine they all only live there for a week or month and use it because they dont find anything else for such short time

>> No.15517478

>>15512528
immmmmm
immmmmmmmm
immmmmmmmmmm
immmmmmmigrationnnnnnn

>> No.15517542

>>15511855
140k here, about average for single and renting apartment in OC

>> No.15517548

>>15514133
sydney here.

you can make 500K a year then after tax you get about 250, and you need so 5K a week.

But to buy a house is 2.0 to 3.0 M and interet is 3.5% ish is 2.5K to 3K a week

Then cost of living 1~2k a week

so you are left with 1.5K~500$ a week from 500K a year.

I seriously go though $200 ~ $400 a day likes its nothing

fuel,insurance, incidentals (10K just the other day because local gov force a change to houses), bills, other bills, repairs.

>> No.15518028

>tfw make $50k at job in rural Georgia
>tfw own several rental properties that bring in an additional $4k a month
>tfw houses I can get for $15-30k all day would go for more than 10 years my job salary in California

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>>15511639
THEY LOOK SO HAPPY

>> No.15518162

>>15511318
>tfw boomers and chinamen are gonna lose everything once the crash happens

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>>15512498

Don't do it anon at that price it was likely a meth cooking house and is probably saturated with dangerous chemicals that will require you to bulldoze the house and spent thousands on legally disposing of the chemical waste.

>> No.15518197

>>15511318
If you make a lot of money in tech, you rent a 1 bedroom apartment, sock away a lot of money and then go live somewhere else nice and conservative when you retire in 15 years.

>> No.15518293

>>15511633
This is actually pretty reasonable just above 1k/sq ft.

>> No.15518336

>>15518197
>then go live somewhere else nice and conservative when you retire in 15 years.
Isn't that what they are doing in colorado, and ruining the state by turning the state blue with their retarded policies too?

>> No.15518419

>>15512528
Mass immigration. Boomers hoarding them. Foreign billionaires laundering crime money selling those properties to each other. Zoning restrictions imposed by corrupt local governments bribed by construction and real estate companies so prices don't tank. etc etc.

Some more righter wing municipalities where I live do what they can to increase rent and property prices while giving zero GIBS to price out immigrants and shitskins so only wealthier Europeans can afford to live there. Though that's rarer.

>> No.15518423

>>15512633
Yes, California is extreme lenient with regards to squatters. You can even use adverse possession to apply for title if you have been openly and notoriously occupying the property for 5 years and have paid the taxes.

>> No.15518431

I lived in the Bay Area for over 20 years. I’ve bought several condos in the area at relatively high prices - 400-600k for 1 bedroom properties. I’ve paid down the principal significantly and I’ve now moved out of those properties with the intention of renting them out. Two of them are netting me positive cash flow which have allowed me to quit my job and live off the profits. But keep coping with muh high prices muh feces ridden streets, /biz/. While your waiting for the market to crash I’m already steps ahead of you.

>> No.15518488

>>15518431
No one would argue you're dumb one, more like the people who insist on flocking to your apartments without having the needful net worth

>> No.15518576

>>15514325
Reagan is unquestionably one of the worst presidents. He was the OG neocon boomer faggot.

>> No.15518663

>>15518431
So you had more than $1 mil net worth in cash with low inflation and now you have them in houses that's probably inflated by chinks buying everything, and crime being temporarily lower than it was a few years ago. With the california taxes and people having less kids do you think the housing market is gonna improve significantly? kek can't wait until you sell low or drop your net worth in half for decades