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This is the only way to 10x-1000x your gains.
If you are not trading options, you will lose your money because you are emotionally chained by a Link of biased autism instead of seeing any equity or commodity as a trading vehicle only used to make profit. Anything more tha this is clouding your judgement.
You see,in this example, im making about $10 or so for every penny GORO moves up in price,theres other factors too but instead of waiting around sitting with your dick "all in" the crypto gulliotine, you could be flipping hundreds into thousands in a week or two.
I hope you got in on gold and silver this week before the sept. 1st tariffs btw...

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>>15425430

>> No.15425499

it has its advantages and disadvantages. Thing about stocks is as long as you aren’t buying penny stock trash you’ll own the shares until they go up again even if you chose wrong you’ve got something for your money. Choose wrong on options and you’ve got nothing to show for it they expire worthless and you’re empty handed.

>> No.15425511

Loss too much money on options already

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>>15425499
Not if you collect premium upfront fren

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>>15425511
Then how do you plan to ever make in in crypto or stocks?
Your hands are like cheap Chinese ceramic.

>> No.15425597

How? Like...purely for the sale of argument assume I am an idiot. How does any of this work? Where do you do this? How much $ up front? How do you spot opportunities? How do you set it up? How do you make (or lose) money? How do you cash out?

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Good way to make money, granted you can't throw your entire account on one play. It's extremely easy to lose 90% on a weekly SPY call if the wrong thing is tweeted

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>>15425459
I'll give all you losers one hint.

https://www.investopedia.com/options-basics-tutorial-4583012

This is the only thing that has the slightest hope of saving your sorry ass and if you truly have autism there should be no problem in you learning everything you can about how to make it from this shit. You really can turn 100 into 1000 this way if you study and research.
Learn how the candles work on a weekly basis.
How long have you been waiting on crypto when RH has free options trading.
Also use M1 finance which offered fractional shares and fractional compounding drip interest.
C'mon guys life is easy just do what the Jews do to make money.

>Interest and leverage

here's my links to the m1 sign up and rh. we'll both get free stocks to start.
can't beat NEET bux

M1 finance-https://mbsy.co/z9sGt

Robinhood free options-Claim stock now without investing money first: https://invite.robinhood.com/josephr2732

>> No.15425718

There’s no timing the market and that’s exactly what you’re attempting to do. You can make a ton off options but you better have a good lead or hunch, done a whole whole lot of due diligence, or be a clairvoyant mother fucker. Alternatively have money spread around and straddle strangle or cover. It’s not as easy as you’re making it seem.

>> No.15425755

>>15425718
Sure you have to get pretty lucky to make big profit with options, but how is that any different from gambling on shitcoins?

>> No.15425764

But isn't options trading a zero-sum game? Can we really compete with professionals and computer programs?

>> No.15425771

>trading positive delta
To anyone reading, there is no free lunch. These returns are real but so are losses. Be a net seller of options and learn risk management, or else you'll go broke.

Or you can throw it all at weekly OTM SPY options and go for broke. You'll either get lambos or cup ramen. Best of luck.

>> No.15425775

>>15425764

You aren’t competing you’re just a small fish trying to get a little piece of the pie

>> No.15425784

>>15425775
And then you read about all the people losing their money. Is it really realistic? Ive been trying to read about it but it's complicated for me.

>> No.15425820

>>15425784

You can spot trends and make some cash but if you go balls in you’re gonna get burned. The best way to learn is to do. I turned about 7 bucks into $50 last week on GE puts. Small potatoes but you can’t argue with that %. Read up on options and look into companies that are primed to go up or down and when you feel comfortable buy a few options with a little bit of money you don’t care to lose. $10-20 bucks or so.

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>>154257
You don't have to go all in every time.
Start with 100 bucks and buy 3-5 different options for a few weeks out.

The Patrician way is through spreads
By creating call or put credit spreads,you get paid upfront for creating the option(collecting premium) then you make money as time decays,and if you're wrong you still make money by creating this "spread"
(So say you put up 100 collateral but collect a 30-50 dollar premium upfront that then will go up or down if your right or wrong,this is good for these crab markets.)
This isn't risky if your not a retard and can tell when a stock makes or breaks a new resistance.
This is how wall St makes money.
Pull out the spread trade when you're up +3-5% profit and for puts and calls go for +10%-20% profit until you are comfortable then go for that fat dicked BIG PUT for the 100x

I'm currently shorting Tilray and have calls on gold miners and silver for 6 months out. as they ride I pull out profit and wait for another dip to try again.

Good luck!

>> No.15425848

>>15425820
>primed to go up or down
How can I determine that though? Won't it already be priced in once news is announced?

>> No.15425892

>>15425848

You won’t actually KNOW anything unless you’re doing something illegal. It’s all hunch and trends and earnings reports and news. GE got shit news the other week and continued down I bought in late and still got a piece of the pie. It was a dice roll though it could’ve easily gone up but I felt there was a good chance it continued downwards and felt comfortable with the risk involved.

>> No.15425897

>>15425848
If you are unsure you can enter a strangle where you buy a put and a call at the same time. Or instead or fomoing on something,wait for the reaction to said news or earnings then play it the day after so you can be INFORMED and USE CONFIRMATION

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>>15425892
So why didn't you buy a put is the price fell and collect a double the money or even triple.
The news follows the charts not the other way around.
Do you really think they just randomly release news stories to the public?

>> No.15425914

>>15425597
It's like gambling in a casino where the odds are heavily tilted against you, and market makers like Citadel are more than happy to take your money for options that will be worthless before you realise it. Don't fall for it.

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>>15425914
Hmmm kinda like crypto except you can make money if it goes up down or sideways.

>> No.15425936

>>15425912

I’m not sure I understand the question but no I know it’s a rigged game as fixed as casinos or boxing. Just a small fish trying to get a piece.

>> No.15425959

>>15425764
There are pros that say buy and pros that say sell on the same stock at the same time.

>> No.15425969

>>15425897
>>15425912
Is it this easy? Do you really just make free money?

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>>15425936
>You saw GE was going down and tried to buy the dip.
>Ge kept dipping and then had bad news from short seller
>this opens the gates and Normies flood the stock to short it
THIS is where you buy the put
>Price confirmed still going down
>Sell put,use profit to buy more get shares or w/e you're into

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>>15425959
Wait for confirmation with a stock breaks support or breaks its resistance, then react don't react on news and hype react after it.
Also learn what the three bar play is my nigga

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>>15425969
Nothing is free fren
It still takes time research and technical analysis but the payoffs are much better than cryptos promising so far

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/Biz/ is now an options board

>> No.15426030

>>15425969
Not completely. What if I told you that the price of an option does not follow the underlying 1:1? What if I also told you that the option has extrinsic value which could be lost at a moment's notice? When price moves, the option price will move. When price stagnates, you can have the option price fall.

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>>15426030
Volatility has far greater control over an option than any other Greek.
This is why you buy puts on high volatility spikes that have high Delta and are followed with a strong red candle for confirmation.just Get out if it turns around on you,or again buy the strangle or spread
Last week I made 250 dollars turn I to 1k by noticing beyond meat waterfalling on a big 3 bar play setup.
I mean what other means are you going to have this opportunity to make these percentages in a short time period of 2 hours for watching a screen lol??

For a few hundred bucks there's alot more upside than down,than when you get a few thousand buy the spreads and safer options.

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>>15426064
Whoops 150 into 1200 basically a 10x
again use my link download Robin Hood and throw 20 bucks at it see if you can turn it into 200 what have you got to lose wait for a tweet and buy put if you're unsure,
pro-tip tariffs good place of a birthday on the 1st you don't think the market is going to shit out when that happens?

>> No.15426148

>>15426064
>Beyond meat rally is finally dying.
Wow you don't say? I would never have thunk that could happen. 600% rallies are totally normal, totally could have gone tits up.

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>>15426148
Exactly I'm saying to make money off it retard,if it's THAT obvious to you then why didn't you drop a stack on a put my ma'am? Jesus Christ theres literally millions to be made and you sit here jacking your dicks to fart coin and shitlinks when you could be making weekly returns

>> No.15426229

>>15426148
Sorry to be that guy but you’d use thought and not thunk, which is a completely different word

>> No.15426235 [DELETED] 

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She will send nudes

>> No.15426330

>>15426235
>id
i don't want to see your flabby mom

>> No.15426416

>>15426216
Is it customary to assume everyone here is a faggot who sends pics of their butt hole to trade imaginary "currencies"? Some of us just like to trade short premium.

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>>15426416
Seems to be the trend here lately...

>> No.15426456

>>15426330
i do

>> No.15426472

>>15425430
Option market is literally Crypto Gains except with legit companies. With the added bonuses of:
1) not getting exit scammed
2) not losing your wallet and losing all of your money
3)not getting all your coins hacked on an exchange
If you're not trading options and are watching crypto all day you are a fucking retard. I've gone from 85k to 220k in the past three months.

>> No.15426485

>>15425718
Don't be an unlucky loser and you'll be fine.

>> No.15426543

>>15425597
>he still doesnt know what robinhood is

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>>15426416
>Is it customary to assume everyone here is a faggot who sends pics of their butt hole to trade imaginary "currencies"? Some of us just like to trade short premium.
Yes, absolutely it is. Welcome aboard, fren

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>>15426064
>this is why you buy options when they are most expensive

>> No.15426803

>>15425563
what if the stock moves against your favor and the buyer exercises the option?

>>15425576
options expiring or being exercised by the buyer has nothing to do with how weak ones hands are.

if I do dabble with options, i straddle or sell weekly covered calls

>buy 1 call
>buy 1 put
>both same strike price
>stop loss
>sell profitable option

>> No.15426880

>>15426076
I've been in crypto since '17, I'm still a neet and lost everything in this bear market. I'm tired and want money, real money. Can you give me more advice on
options trading, please?