/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.15317742]

Huh.

[Anonymous No.15317847]

>>15317742
>DUDE, asteroid mining!

[Anonymous No.15317924]

>>15317742
>tfw born too early to work on an astroid mining rig

Why even fucking live?

[Anonymous No.15317935]

>>15317742
Where's the graph for the value of tapped asteroids

[Anonymous No.15317940]

>>15317924
>wagecucking in space
Imagine all the horrific wagie deaths, fucking grim thought.

[Anonymous No.15317945]

>>15317847
this. i'm so fucking tired of these plebbit-tier threads

[Anonymous No.15317947]

why not just mine under the ocean?

this shit is almost as retarded as wind power when nuclear power exists. what's the point? I guess if you had self replicating machines it could be viable but currently it's just some pop sci bullshit

[Anonymous No.15317951]

Whats stopping us from creating a company.

It's really not difficult to land on something flying at 25km/second.

[Anonymous No.15317969]

>>15317940
Imagine the financial gains though.

[Anonymous No.15317977]

>>15317947
>as retarded as wind power when nuclear power exists
So my country can be entirely energy independent with clean safe wind energy, or we can depend on some rare elements mine on the other side of the world? TOUGH DECISION

[Anonymous No.15318045]

>>15317977
Cuck

[Anonymous No.15318053]

>>15317977
>wind
>clean
>safe
nice brainwash there

[Anonymous No.15318055]

>>15317742
all we need is a way to crash one into earth for easier mining

[Anonymous No.15318068]

>>15317951
we are going through space so fast it's creating a visible doppler effect 25 km/s is nothing

[Anonymous No.15318084]

>>15318045
Only one of us has dubs bitch

[Anonymous No.15318117]

I wouldn't try mining these the traditional way, I would load them up with explosives or nukes, crack them into smaller manageable pieces, stick a rocket and thrusters on a couple of good chunks and then aerobrake the chunk over the earth until it was slow enough that it wouldn't burn up in the atmosphere, then drop it into a shallow ocean or desert and do all the mining and processing on the ground.

[Anonymous No.15318123]

>>15318053
>wind
>not safe
Oh sorry anon, I forgot your dad was a fucking seagull. How insensitive of me.

[Anonymous No.15318124]

>Spend billions mining an asteroid expecting quintillions in profit
>Extract so much material you crash the price for centuries

[Anonymous No.15318145]

>>15317977
>entirely energy independent
>wind energy

[Anonymous No.15318149]

>>15317977
Wind energy harms birds. Look into molten thorium reactors.

[Anonymous No.15318167]

>>15317940
It will be owning Robots that do your work as an independent contractor in space.

[Anonymous No.15318181]

>>15318117
just dont drop it on my house anon

[Anonymous No.15318182]

>>15318145
You think you are making an intelligent point but I promise you are not.

[Anonymous No.15318189]

>>15317977
>So my country can be entirely energy independent with clean safe wind energy, or we can depend on some rare elements mine on the other side of the world? TOUGH DECISION


yes that will work so well, hope you only like having electricity when it's windy out.
>inb4 batteries
there aren't enough batteries int the world to run an entire country off of

[Anonymous No.15318191]

>>15317742
Am I the only one who thinks scientists often choose stereotypical/bland/dumb sounding names for space things?
>Alauda
>Diotima
>Siegena
These all sound like hippie child names

[Schiff Will Win !!L6zziHG8/KZ No.15318192]

>>15317742
>its just around the corner man!!!
Hah fucking asteroid mining LARPers. That shit would NEVER be cost efficient. Even if they had the technology (they don’t and its 1,000 years off) they wouldn’t do it because they would crash the entire price.
You fags sound like goys in 01’ telling me how completely self driving cars were 5 years away. Didn’t happen and still hasn't happened.

[Anonymous No.15318208]

>>15318123
>Maintained by moving cranes of the largest size
>heavy transport required for deployment and maintainence
>studies show strong impact and bird population and consequently the ecosystem
>ugly
>expensive
>unreliable
>inefficient

Wind energy is a fucking ploy to sell the taxpayer industry output because they haven't had a good reason to build tanks and planes in a long time.

Oh and then
>chernobyl is a fucking wildlife park while wind parks are a bird graveyard

[Anonymous No.15318223]

>>15318124
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.

[Anonymous No.15318232]

>>15318117
Bring it on a slingshot course towards near-Earth, stabilize the orbit and then use drones to cut it up and ship the fragments down to the surface.

[Anonymous No.15318275]

>>15318208
>muh birds
KEK. You're probably eating a bucket of fried chicken right now you dumb clap.
Well, cluck all you want. Wind power is fucking great. Way better than solar in many places and almost universally more practical than nuclear, despite what all your pseudo contrarian "well aktchually" plebbit threads would have you believe.

[Anonymous No.15318299]

>>15318275
>more practical than nuclear
weak troll

[Anonymous No.15318305]

>>15317947
>mining where there's lots of pressure when you could mine where there's no pressure

Not gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.15318329]

>>15318305
You realize gravity is kind of helpful when collecting things right? Not even starting with the logistics of leaving the planet

[Anonymous No.15318345]

>>15318299
A nuclear plant is literally billions up front, as well as having huge expertise requirements and extremely complex logistics.
Wind turbines are a piece of piss by comparison.

[Anonymous No.15318347]

>>15317847
fbbp

[Anonymous No.15318365]

>>15317742
Why don't we just run an extension cord from the sun?

[Anonymous No.15318385]

>>15318329
Gravity is most certainly not your friend on the ocean floor. You're talking about dealing with thousands of pounds of pressure per square inch, and thats not even counting dealing with corrosion from the saltwater or any of that shit. Building space infrastructure and some artificial lakes to absorb incoming payloads of precious metals is comparatively trivial.

[Anonymous No.15318408]

>>15318275
>better than solar
>more practical than nuclear

Who fucking sent you?

[Anonymous No.15318410]

>>15318149
Wind energy also slows down.... Wind. Widespread use will completely fuck up local climates and probably destroy the fucking planet

[Anonymous No.15318414]

>>15318345
Except that a nuke goes literally anywhere and the place where wind turbines are most effective are coincidentally also the spots you least want them (in the ocean, on a mountain, in the middle of nowhere)

Not even starting with their INSANE failure rate, maintainance cost, actual co2 deficiency because they're stupidly difficult to deploy and hook up to the grid. And then there is your "muh kek cuck" damage to the environment which they were fucking supposed to avoid in the first place.

And all that so 500 of them can replace one coal plant. It's a fucking taxmoney grab nothing more

[Anonymous No.15318421]

>>15318345
I assumed we were talking about white people lmao

[Anonymous No.15318422]

>>15318365
we tried that once. space niggers came along and stole the cable.

[Anonymous No.15318483]

>>15318182
says the retard that thinks that wind energy can make a country energy independant lmao

[Anonymous No.15318490]

>>15318414
What's insane about their failure rate? Its like 2%. And unlike nuclear "failure" doesn't mean your trailer park gets vaporised.
>>15318408
Who sent YOU you fucking shill

[Anonymous No.15318500]

>>15318490
2% failure rate on something you have to build hundreds, maybe thousands of? What a joke.

[Anonymous No.15318513]

>>15317977
>So my country can be entirely energy independent

SO MY COUNTRY CAN BE FREE
(So my country can be free!)
WE MUST USE THE WIND FOR FREE
THEN WE HAVE A BIG PARTY

[Anonymous No.15318514]

>>15318500
Dude lmao just employ a horde of climber-electrician-turbine engineer-mechanics and a fleet of crane trucks xD

[Anonymous No.15318531]

>>15318514
Don't forget greentech is unsuitable for baseload power until such a time as we can roll out a grid-wide upgrade to superconducting power lines so electricity doesn't get lost from Wind Field A to City B.

[Anonymous No.15318548]

>>15318124
space mining leads to space industry
where we can just produce everything in space with out consequences of pollution or waste management, with hundreds of times less effort because of not gravity

then ship it to earth or wherever
who cares about money when you get a 10th industrial revolution
money will sort itself out

[Anonymous No.15318557]

>>15318531
Oh they can also desync your AC net because wind doesn't exactly care if your generator is running in sync. But you can always hook a gearbox in between that your climbing electrician engineer can fix with the help of your friendly diesel powered crane

[Anonymous No.15318562]

>>15318514
Yes anon, electrical infrastructure requires maintenance. SHOCKING
>muh birds

[Anonymous No.15318571]

>>15318548
These people have no concept of profit through volume sales.

[Anonymous No.15318585]

>>15318490
>And unlike nuclear "failure" doesn't mean your trailer park gets vaporised.
It is physically impossible for a nuclear reactor to explode in any manner resembling a nuclear explosion, enrichment is only 5% and weapons need at least 70%+. All nuclear accidents have been human errors (Fukushima was the Japanese not following proper design regulations). Safest, cleanist, and cheapest $/MW once built. You cannot be pro green energy and anti nuclear

[Anonymous No.15318588]

>>15318490
>attempting to associate nuclear power with trailer parks

Pathetic

[Anonymous No.15318605]

>>15318562
There is a difference between maintaining houses with hot water in them and whats effectively heavy machinery at the top of towers in the middle of nowhere. Managing the power lines is honestly already fucking ridiculous and that doesn't involve lifting industrial generators to to fucking rooftop levels on top of mountains

[Anonymous No.15318630]

>>15318585
>All nuclear accidents have been human errors
But plebbit told me nuclear accidents never happen!

[Anonymous No.15318639]

you could mine meteors, or you could hunt meteorites. a basic, no-nothing iron meteorite is commonly $1/gram, rarer metorites are like $5-20/gram. at the most basic of meteorites, thats roughly $30/oz, or $450/lb.

to be a millionaire, you have to find a little over one ton of common-ass meteorites. get going.

[Anonymous No.15318649]

>>15317847
based, fpbp, op eternally btfo and /thread

[Anonymous No.15318651]

>>15318630
Far more likely plebbit told you green energy and communism are rad.

[Anonymous No.15318655]

>>15318191
This is because you are too pleb to know anything about ancient greco-roman history.

[Anonymous No.15318670]

>>15318630
Actual fucking retard and propaganda machine. Nuclear is the future

[Anonymous No.15318713]

>>15317940
>wagecucking in space
well the NEET gibs aint gonna pay for emselves

[Anonymous No.15318720]

>>15318651
>Far more likely plebbit told you green energy and communism are rad.
Nope. They love nothing more than to wheel out some dumbshit 105er factoid about how TIL green energy isn't green and BTW nuclear power is totally safe it has no negative effects
>Hey guys, I think wind power is lame and nuclear is totally cool AITA?

[Anonymous No.15318722]

i have no idea why i read what you faggots post sometimes.
most of u are so hopelessly retarded its a miracle you even have $1 to your names.

[Anonymous No.15318737]

>>15318117
This. I always wonder why nobody mentions this. I'd suggest sending them to the moon and mining them there though, then loading them in casks that will survive re-entry. Drop them into the pacific with a beacon and use a magnetic hook to lift them up from the bottom of the ocean.

How are we not millionaires with such brilliant ideas anon?

[Anonymous No.15318752]

>>15318722
a lot of them don't, why do you think they are on this board?

[Anonymous No.15318753]

>>15318720
Well I suppose you would know. Perhaps you should go back or maybe try tumblr because ever redditors are smarter than you ffs.

[Anonymous No.15318757]

>>15318167
Nah itll be wagies just like it always has. The truth is competition will hack/destroy your bots, whereas while the life of a common wagie is functionally pointless it's still illegal to murder.

[Anonymous No.15318771]

>>15318639
really, no comments? cmon guys. find the nearest open area you can find rocks, start lookin

[Anonymous No.15318775]

>>15318771
50 lbs will get you a solid house down payment

[Anonymous No.15318790]

>>15318720
listen retard. If you won't believe it from us, how about the literal fucking ex-president of greenpeace? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDK1aCqqZkQ

Do yourself the favor and listen to people smarter than you. Or don't. I guess smarter than you is a really low bar to go by

[Anonymous No.15318801]

>>15317742
The triggers the boomer rock holders.

[Anonymous No.15318820]

>>15318410
imagine being this much of a brainlet

[Anonymous No.15318829]

>>15318275
>muh birds
Go ask China what happens when you kill too many birds, retard.

[Anonymous No.15318830]

>>15318790
>climate change is a scam
KEK. Sounds like a legit source.

[Anonymous No.15318839]

>>15318830
two logical fallacies in 5 words. Truly a poltard

[Anonymous No.15318896]

>>15318829
>windfarms are literally the great leap forward
LMAO
>>15318830
It's your video dipshit that's the title

[Anonymous No.15318901]

>>15318117
Even doing something a bit more clever like this the cost would still be prohibitive. Asteroid mining is economically unviable until we have such abundant and high yield energy that materials become the limiting factor rather than energy

[Anonymous No.15318923]

>>15318192
self driving cars are a thing now...?
do you live in a cave?

[Anonymous No.15318944]

>>15318923
I'll put them in the "that's a thing now" list between IPv6 and running-out-of-oil

[Anonymous No.15318953]

>>15318775
How do I find one and know its a meteor?

Currently a neet and it sounds like fun.

[Anonymous No.15318964]

>>15318923
Did you know that the pornhub video where they supposedly fuck in the Tesla, while it self drives, is fake?
And that was a selling point of the majority of the buyers? And then they fucking DIE.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/17/tesla_autopilot_crash/

[Anonymous No.15318968]

>>15318953
from what ive read, majority of meteorites are magnetic, contain iron. a magnet on a stick is a good tool to bring along, since most other rocks youll come across are not magnetic. those that are, not to the same degree as a meteorite.

they dont have holes, theyre very dense/solid, they have burned/rounded edges. they look weird.

[Anonymous No.15318970]

>>15318771
is this a good introduction video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLd3f-yS61s

[Anonymous No.15318974]

>>15317742
>find the heaviest objects in the solar system that we can move
>crash them into our planet for money
Smart

[Anonymous No.15318978]

>15318974
More effort next time

[Anonymous No.15318980]

>>15318968
as an anecdote, my geology buddy (im not geo, more env) occasionally finds a small piece, like half-ounce, while we're doing our site walks. here and there. never knew there was money in it otherwise i could have kept a few. geo bud did found a half-pounder once, kept it on his desk before i left.

[Anonymous No.15318998]

>>15318970
no idea, but ill watch bits and pieces over the week. im new to this as well, but its definitely promising if you live near an area where the ground cover is visible. id imagine this is damn near impossible on the east coast.

[Anonymous No.15319014]

>>15317742
imagine believing in outer space in 2019

[Anonymous No.15319025]

>>15318639
Just googled it and apparently all meteorites are legally government property and collecting them is a criminal offense in Australia.

[Anonymous No.15319061]

>>15319025
well shit, was worth a shot bruce. if you find one, make a contact overseas and take a trip.

[Anonymous No.15319081]

>>15319025
What is up with governments being such asshats?
>uhm you can’t collect rainwater mkay?
>what?! you are digging out some historical coins, fuck you bitch here is a fine
>haha meteorites, lol ours too

[Anonymous No.15319106]

>>15319081
and australia has a lot of desert land which would make searching comparatively much easier. could probably find a dry lake bed and find a handful of chunks in an afternoon

[Anonymous No.15319168]

>>15318901
Nuclear powered rockets soon

[Anonymous No.15319233]

>>15317742
The prices are gonna crash if those minerals flood the markets

[Anonymous No.15319312]

>>15319233
they still have an important usage in our current economy. bringing them to worth would speed progress. it should be done by a not for profit org, kinda like a united nations nasa.

[Anonymous No.15319326]

>>15318901
well maybe refining mile long strips of thomson structure iron could be hard (but not really can just move that shit close to the sun)

but cracking the asteroids would be easy, mile long rail guns, Jupiter's gravity assisted trajectories, beam propulsion, all super low energy options

[Anonymous No.15319327]

did nobody watch "the expanse"? it's about asteroid mining

[Anonymous No.15319333]

>>15318757
Its only murder if they find the bodies

[Anonymous No.15319387]

>>15318974
mine them in space, get the chunks small, get them to land on earth in a way that would not have them break up in atmosphere. but realistically, it would be use in space to make more shit in space.

the moment that we can effectively make things in space is the moment we are truly no longer bound to earth.

[Anonymous No.15319402]

>>15319312
um... not sure if you fully realize what you are suggesting with a united nations in space, don't you feel bad the the alien children?

[Anonymous No.15319500]

>>15317977
Hey, I'm from the country that gets the highest amount of their power from wind, and you are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.15319502]

Biz in 2155..

>Is it still profitable to mine Chiron?
>Should I send my 4 Nvidia Photon Lambo Mark X miners to Alauda?
>Are there niggers in Citadel?
>Bros how does it feel to fuck a Kig-Yar?
>0,00001 Sergeys for pic with lasersharpie in pooper
>pls sirs buy my SENT bags, SENT moon veri soon

[Anonymous No.15319543]

>>15317742
>Winchester
I hope they make a pub on that one

[Anonymous No.15319555]

>>15319326
I think getting them into earth orbit wouldn't be too bad, it's getting stuff down to earth safely. You'd have to cut the thing up real small if you want to just hurtle it down, keep in mind Tunguska was just a 100m diameter object, and if you do that your material loss will be greater bc the surface area/volume ratio will be higher. So you'd probably have to bring it down in some kind of container, which is going to be rather expensive. If you had an asteroid that was pure platinum the numbers might work out but it's going to be much less valuable elements by weight mostly

[Anonymous No.15319595]

>>15319502

in 2155 Sergay will be exit scamming yet another wave of suckers. It will also mark the 135th anniversary of the death of StainStink.

[Anonymous No.15319598]

>>15318123
>I forgot your dad was a fucking seagull. How insensitive of me.
Hard kek

[Anonymous No.15319632]

>>15318410
Wind is pretty dumb. I’ve heard from engineers you never get the energy back you put in, they are effectively negative overall. Only kept affloat my government gibs

[Anonymous No.15319649]

>>15317935
i tapped one so hard yesterday

[Anonymous No.15319676]

>>15319387
>the moment that we can effectively make things in space is the moment we are truly no longer bound to earth.
this is probably the most important thing in this thread that most people seem overlook

[Anonymous No.15319691]

>Dude just mine asteroids!
>T. Rex

[Anonymous No.15319806]

>>15319387
Space elevator

[Anonymous No.15319903]

>>15318790
>Crowder
you gotta be shitting me, anon

[Anonymous No.15320245]

>>15318189
>there aren't enough batteries int the world to run an entire country off of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity

not really arguing about wind/solar just wanted to post PSH it's cool as hell, people think a battery has to be a big metal thingy but in reality it could be anything.

[Anonymous No.15320272]

>>15317940
The country with the loosest health and safety standards (China) will mine the most.

[Anonymous No.15320278]

>>15317742
they're not fucking valuable if they cannot be used
they all have a worth of fucking ZERO
NOTHING
THEY'RE WORTHLESS

[Anonymous No.15320290]

>>15317940
Imagine, you start to drift away into the nothingness of space, as you do you are still in range of the stations extranet. With only seconds remaining you pull out your space PDA. What are your last words /biz/?

[Anonymous No.15320296]

>>15320290
1000 E-

[Anonymous No.15320306]

>>15317924
>>15317940
What would the bonus situation be like?

[Anonymous No.15320398]

>>15318737
Set up refineries on the moon. Run the whole operation with link.