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15303595 No.15303595 [Reply] [Original]

What exactly do programmers "program"? Isn't everything pretty much already "programmed" at this point?

>> No.15303619

Yea, it's weird. We engineered everything a long time ago, yet they keep teaching engineers.

>> No.15303633

>>15303619
It's bizarre.

Another example. Why do people even become cooks when there's restaurants everywhere? I think the commies are behind this.

>> No.15303636

>>15303595

We pretty much reinventing the wheel over and over, just so we don't have to pay license fees.

Or just spend time beautifying our products to make them stand out, even though they all basically do the same thing.

>> No.15303765

>>15303595
What exactly do builders "build"? Isn't eveything pretty much already "built" at this point?

>> No.15303792

shitty software services in industries that don't need it

sorta like crypto

>> No.15304123

its actually hilarious how IT soiboys use "learn to code" meme to troll uncertified people just to realize in the end that college is literally a meme and everything will be useless when AI is already more than capable of writing any code just by giving it literally vocal instructions

>> No.15304169

>>15304123
confirmed low IQ poster disregard

>> No.15304969

a lot of what programmers do is fix bugs from older programmers

>> No.15305016

most “programmers” complain when they can’t get a high-paying job, but they don’t realize that what companies are really looking for is optimization in existing software, which requires actual compsci knowledge and a decent understanding of mathematics

>> No.15305070

>>15304123
>AI is already more than capable of writing any code just by giving it literally vocal instructions

Your pseudo-techie babble may amaze your parents but that shit doesn’t fly here. Go ahead and make a thread on /g/ about your wonderful findings and get laughed at and told to fuck off. Never post here again, you should go back to lurk-only mode.

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>>15304169
Except IT is for low IQ people.

>> No.15305125

>>15304123
>He actually thinks places like Google and Amazon are paying mid 6 figure salaries for engineers to sit around all day and not write code.

>> No.15305155

This is what programmers do
https://youtu.be/rqX8PFcOpxA

>> No.15305302

Bad software requires 100x more jobs to support than good software. Bad software is more common and software usually gets worse because most programmers are shitty hacks solving narrow problems quickly to maintain employment.

Good software has a much larger upfront cost, and can quickly (1-3 years) become outdated without people maintaining. And of course good software can become a giant pile of shit with even one shitty programmer allowed unmonitored access to pushing horrible architecture changes.

Businesses realized this and/or followed the existing practice of hiring a bunch of people just to maintain stability on their shitty product. Luckily basic CRUD software was a such a huge efficiency leap from paper that programmers still gave an insanely high ROI if they are just average or above average. So businesses often hire 100 programmers to do 10 points of work each instead of 1 programmer to do 100 points.

So it's all shit but short term oriented businesses will propagate this bad behavior and endless torture of paying 100k to average intelligence, highly organized, boredom masochists to maintain horrible enterprise CRUD apps from 10 years ago.

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>> No.15305423

>>15305302
> So businesses often hire 100 programmers to do 10 points of work each instead of 1 programmer to do 100 points.
And when that one guy wins the lottery, what happens then?

>> No.15305546

>>15303595
Maybe, but people always need custom solutions for obscure platforms, and there's not really a repository of those going around.