/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.15176372]

>what do you mean you don't pay taxes???
>Who's going to keep the obese hippo niggers alive? Or make sure the single moms can produce the next generation of felons? You're being real cringe bro

[Anonymous No.15176591]

How about, “who’s going to build the roads and fund your school system? Your military? Regulations that protect you from buying food laced with arsenic?”
You wouldn’t have shit without socialism.

[Anonymous No.15176615]

>>15176372
>implying you have a choice
Try not paying your taxes and see how that works out

[Anonymous No.15176635]

>>15176591
>WHO'S GOING TO PAY CLETUS TO DO PUSHUPS? WHO'S GOING TELL COMPANIES NOT TO KILL THEIR CUSTOMERS?

[Anonymous No.15176659]

>>15176615
Apple seems to get away with it just fine

[Anonymous No.15176708]

>>15176659
Oh, my apologies, I didn’t realize you were a multibillion dollar corporation

[Anonymous No.15176743]

>>15176372
the jews that literally print money

[Anonymous No.15176744]

>>15176591
I can live of the land I own. Get fucked, commie.

[Anonymous No.15176747]

>>15176635
TAXKEKS BLOWN OUT MY SIDES

[Anonymous No.15176765]

>>15176615

>don't pay tax's
>buy some beach house in a 3rd world country and live like a king forever
what;re those faggots going to do

[Anonymous No.15176787]

>>15176372
I dont pay taxes cause i make sure to buy high and sell low haha suckers!

[Anonymous No.15176827]

>NO HUMAN CIVILIZATION HAS EVER BEEN EXISTED WITHOUT A MEDICAID OFFICE
>YOU CAN'T JUST EXPECT PEOPLE TO CONTINUE BREATHING ON THEIR OWN. WE NEED THE GOVERNMENT OR THESE VALUABLE CITIZENS WILL DIE

[Anonymous No.15176834]

>>15176591
If you were only paying for necessities people wouldnt object so much, but in many cases you're paying to make your homeland worse

[Anonymous No.15176845]

>>15176765
based and expat pilled

[Anonymous No.15176854]

>HOW WILL THE POLICE PROTECT ME FROM MYSELF IF I DON'T WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR? EXPLAIN THAT TO ME ANCRAP

[Anonymous No.15176881]

>I don't pay taxes becs I dont want to support the oppressive racist jewish system that keeps the poor white man down and keeps us from securing the existence of our people and a future for white children

[Anonymous No.15176891]

>>15176854
>WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR?
aeHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15176892]

>>15176744

Then go do it pussy

[Anonymous No.15176915]

>EVERY FOOT OF ASPHALT WAS LAID BY SOMEONE WHO WAS HIRED BY A COMPANY WHO WAS PAID BY A PERSON WHO WAS PAID BY THE TAX PAYER. BETCHU FEEL STUPID NOW. MORE TAX NOW. MORE NIGGERS AND MUSLIMS TOO

[Anonymous No.15176946]

>>15176915
say it with me white privilege
we have to be equal to low iq mud monkeys so lets keep bringing them in by the 10s of millions
you need pick up a book and learn about communism because it's the future you nazi

[Anonymous No.15176949]

>>15176372
test

[Anonymous No.15176955]

>>15176591
>if govt builds roads, that is EXACTLY the same as having a revolution that will forcibly seize every single factory, farm and industry from its owners and put it under command of a proletarian state!
>OF FUCKING COURSE IT IS

You know who I blame for this bullshit mentality? Republican boomers. Modern "democratic socialists" have taken a lot of political profit from this wrong idea that boomers sold them.
This is a very American thing. Fix your goddamn politics and stop infecting the rest of the world with this modern mix of ultracapitalism and SJWism.

[Anonymous No.15176968]

>>15176955
yeah let me speak up and fix this like it won't compromise my career and personal safety

[Anonymous No.15176981]

>YOU WANT DRUGS TO LEGAL? YIKES! IMAGINE IF ANYONE COULD JUST GET DRUGS ANYTIME THEY WANTED BY JUST BUYING IT FROM A DEALER??? THAT'S THE KIND OF WORLD YOU WANT WHEN YOU SAY DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL

[Anonymous No.15177014]

>>15176968
>muh stability
I thought Thomas Jefferson said something about liberty and security, you know.

[Anonymous No.15177017]

>>15176955
Always that one guy obsessed with America

[Anonymous No.15177026]

>>15177017
>always that one guy obsessed about his neighbor taking a shit on his doorstep

[Anonymous No.15177044]

>NO WE CAN'T AFFORD HEALTHCARE FOR EVERYONE FIRST WE NEED TO BUY A BIG GOVERNMENT AND THEN THEY CAN BUY HEALTHCARE FOR EVERYONE

[Anonymous No.15177045]

>>15177014
I agree with you, just trying to find the most effective way to bring about change in a that incentivizes people to take that path
I don't think it can be done within the current system

[Anonymous No.15177048]

>>15176827
I'm Dutch, and we have had our own form of universal health care since after the cold war or something, but I can imagine people from the US being against it. With the odds of somebody getting shot or succumbing under their own obesity, I can imagine it being impossible to shoulder that financial burden even as a whole nation. The UK is quickly becoming one of the most obese nations after the US, and they too are discussing the immense burden it causes on the nations finance for quite some time now. I'm sorry your country is too addicted to Burger King to support universal health care. Works well in non-obese countries in Europe though.

[Anonymous No.15177118]

>>15176591
That's not even a tenth of actual government spending. The rest is either wealth transfers FROM THE WORKING PEOPLE TO LAZY BUMS AND PARASITES, or pointless wars where hundreds of thousands of innocent people die.
Stop defending parasitism and extortion you braindead socialist.

[Anonymous No.15177142]

>>15177017
Long live freedom, death to America!
Fighting America is fighting for freedom!

Death to American imperialism!

[Anonymous No.15177157]

>>15177048
>damn muricans. yeah over here in yurop we just have this big thing called the Gob Ber Ment. we just give all our money to it and it takes care of us encase we get sick. oh yeah and everyone pays the same rate, we have to pay if we use it or not, and if we don't pay we get thrown in jail. But yeah no idea how you americans deal with your greedy insurance companies. FEELS GOOD TO BE SUPERIOR

[Anonymous No.15177232]

>>15177157
usa government pays more for healthcare than european governments

Ameritards basically pay more for the privilage of not having healthcare

[Anonymous No.15177300]

>>15177232
Socialized medicine is stupid on every conceivable level. No product or service can become cheaper by having the government pay for it

[Anonymous No.15177327]

>>15176591
>who’s going to build the roads
The same people doing it now
>fund your school system?
The same people doing it now, but for less and with better learning
>Your military?
Private military? The same people again.
>Regulations that protect you from buying food laced with arsenic?
This is an actually interesting one. Companies will essentially endorse safe products. This puts liability on those companies to ensure it's safe and set up regulations. If the products aren't safe, the reputation of that company goes down, leading to lower money and thus making them change.

[Anonymous No.15177333]

>>15177327
>Companies will essentially endorse safe products.

[Anonymous No.15177342]

>>15177333
h-how did you find a picture of my lunch?

[Anonymous No.15177350]

>>15177342
i am a nigger, harry

[Anonymous No.15177374]

>>15177300
well, I guess I am gonna take the word of some random autist sperger on an Idonesian sardine recipe forum instead of the actual data that prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.15177378]

>>15176635
>WHO'S GOING TELL COMPANIES NOT TO KILL THEIR CUSTOMERS?
every ancap is an american twelve year old whose never left their home state. you sound like a literal retard man

[Anonymous No.15177411]

>>15177048
Yes but your country is fucking irrelevant internationally. No military, no contribution to human advancement. All that medicine your country uses was probably developed in the US

[Anonymous No.15177422]

>>15177374
>well, I guess I am gonna take the word of some random autist sperger
Thank you

[Anonymous No.15177427]

>>15177378
I see it more as a youthful innocence. Many of them never worked a job their own (daddy's company does not count), never dealt with incompetent middle-managers and bosses, or being underpaid but can't change jobs for whatever reasons, or having no money for basic needs because your boss would rather post fancy food on Cancergram than actually pay their employees.

I was that innocent too, then I got two jobs that made me reevaluate my world views a little.

[Anonymous No.15177457]

>>15177157
True, it does feel good to not need mobility scooters when I go shopping. To not have vanity sizing in stores to protect my fragile ego. To having a government that's actually reducing our national debt. To be able to go to the doctor whenever I want, and get whatever drug I need for what ails me, no matter the cost. To have the knowledge that not everybody can buy guns here like they can at Walmart. To only have had one shooting here, instead of the 249 in the US this year. To be taxed next to nothing for owning crypto. To be taxed nothing when I sold my four year old appartment with a 128k profit. To be taxed nothing when I decide to rent out the appartment I'm currently living in. To visit a hospital here, knowing my chances of survival are higher than when I visit a US hospital. Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.15177464]

>DUDE JUST WORK FOR 50 YEARS SO YOU CAN PAY THE GOVERNMENT NOT TO KILL YOU LMAO

[Anonymous No.15177471]

>>15176827
kek

[Anonymous No.15177475]

>lol i mean the government kills kids but whatcha gonna do someone gotta give out traffic tickets

[Anonymous No.15177481]

>>15177457
Based.
Even more based if your country does not send money to (((foreign aid))).

[Anonymous No.15177489]

>>15176881

You know he was jewish right?
Pic rel is his mk ultra dad

[Anonymous No.15177514]

>>15177048

We (dutch) have mandatory health ensurance from a PRIVATE company. Goverment handles nation wide negotiations over drug prices and may to some degree subsidize (being reduced the last few years) the healthcare.

[Anonymous No.15177529]

Why did boomers do this to us

[Anonymous No.15177551]

>>15177529
>Niggers and whites are equal. NO YOU CAN'T EXPECT JAMAL TO UNDERSTAND EXPONENTS ARE YOU TRYING TO BRING BACK JIM CROW

[Anonymous No.15178594]

>>15176591
I pay taxes and the potholes still aren't getting filled

[Anonymous No.15179678]

>>15177300
Except that it worked for 60 years before France gov got kiked by EU

Americans have a say in their interior politics , we don't since Lisbonne Treaty in 2005 that's why its fucked up now.

Socialized healthcare is a 0 sum game , when will you moron understand that capital gain is more expensive ??

[Anonymous No.15179702]

>>15177327

>Advertising abd MSM aren't social engineering medias

[Anonymous No.15179718]

>>15176372
Americans should use their guns to avoid paying taxes

[Anonymous No.15179792]

>>15177232
It's because burgers create all the pharmaceuticals

[Anonymous No.15179843]

>>15176372
>Thinkin taxes pay for any of that shite
How come /biz/ is NPC in regards to taxes? Well Finance in general.
Taxes don't pay for:
Roads
Military
Education
public services
welfare
prisons
food stamps
healthcare
foreign aid
ANYTHING else

The only thing taxes pay are the interest only on the national debt! Oh and the funds to run the IRS (insert your tax collecting agency here)

[Anonymous No.15179879]

>>15176372
Minarchism is the only sensible political branch

[Anonymous No.15179900]

>>15176591
kill yourself brainlet

[Anonymous No.15180137]

>>15176591
Oh yea I forgot how only the government knows the magic spells for constructing a military, roads, schools, etc and that the only way they could possibly cast these magic spells no one else could do is via taking our money forcibly. If we were allowed to just give it to them for specific results the spell would fail of course.
What a weird world it would be if roads and other infrastructure could be built by skilled laborers paid for their services like other products.
You ever wonder why you gain the ability to cast these magic spells upon being employed by the government but lose them when you leave?

[Anonymous No.15180164]

>>15177232
I wonder if we happen to have a unique factor in our population you dont which would take more than the average from these systems while paying nothing in, causing our government to spend more...

[Anonymous No.15180169]

>>15177427
Except I work and I'm ancap and essentially every notable person who is ancap, was during their life, and contributed to the ideas of it have been older men who worked
Oh wait they dont count, only 13 year olds who post ancap memes and have never read a book are the real ancap, ancap bro you sure ruined their arguments

[Anonymous No.15180171]

>>15176591
Those things you mention would be just like the goods and items I purchase if we exiled socialism from our nation: they would be high quality, affordable, and far superior than what a forced and desperate monopoly is capable of producing.

[Anonymous No.15180179]

>without regulations companies would sell exploding microwaves, poisoned food, and products that are totally useless! Of course wed keep buying those, they'd keep making money, and no one would ever offer legitimate products that wed switch to instead

[Anonymous No.15180180]

>>15180164
>implying europe isn't full of niggers

[Anonymous No.15180182]

>>15176591
>You wouldn’t have shit without socialism.
Stockholm syndrome cult member
You treat ideology like a religion
The thing about ideology is that it’s a poor mans religion dressed in beggars clothes
Of course we do need regulations and safety but oftentimes this takes place despite governments and not because of them.
You want me to prove it?
Look at the last 100 years of ideology and the industrial slaughter that took place.

[Anonymous No.15180184]

>>15180169
>Except I work
>ancap
No way you're over 25.
Or if you're over 25, you've been brainwashed hard. Will you tell me next about "firm handshakes" or "invest in gold"?

[Anonymous No.15180188]

Why don't Americans get to choose where their taxes go? We vote for leaders, we should each be able to elect where our taxes go.

[Anonymous No.15180193]

>>15176635

Holy shit my sides

post more, this is great

[Anonymous No.15180195]

>>15176591
Yikes

[Anonymous No.15180201]

>>15176765
This is the thinking man's choice.
If you dont mind leaving your country, you will be able to live like a king with a medium-tier American salary.

[Anonymous No.15180211]

>>15176591

[Anonymous No.15180214]

>>15176765
>get stabbed by crackheads and die

[Anonymous No.15180257]

>>15180184
I dont have an image of people laughing hard enough to respond to this rapid fire strawmen and adhom production
Every single time you question the sacred cow of how how government magically procures these products we desire in a way that COULDNT POSSIBLY BE DONE without the middleman or the threats, you people just break the fuck down and start babbling

[Anonymous No.15180272]

>>15180201
Trying to convince my partner now that in the future when weve got the money we should just fucking bail
Even if we dont know the language staying in America is a mistake now
It makes me sad but I know I will have a freerer and better life somewhere else, no matter how much I love this place

[Anonymous No.15180308]

>>15180179
>Companies always act in responsible, ethical ways. If they didn't, we just wouldn't support them! Regulations do nothing but stifle innovation!

[Anonymous No.15180373]

>>15180308
There's a difference between not using organic free range lettuce in your burgers and putting cyanide in them

[Anonymous No.15180433]

>>15177142
"If firefighters fight fire and crime fighters fight crime, what do freedom fighter fight?" - George Carlin

[Anonymous No.15180545]

>>15176708
big jewish corps avoid paying billions of dollars, while employing chinks and doing all sorts of shady shit, my thousands of $ is going to make a difference.

[Anonymous No.15180678]

>>15176591
>The government only does useful things

[Anonymous No.15180734]

>>15176372
the gigachad response to this is
>why yes, I will have the government print money as necessary to accomplish my goals, how did you know?

[Anonymous No.15180819]

>>15180373
You're retarded if you think companies aren't currently poisoning people because lax regulations allow them to.

[Anonymous No.15180830]

>>15176892
Then dont tax me pussy

[Anonymous No.15180870]

>>15180819
*because the government is owned by those companies
ftfy

[Anonymous No.15181147]

>>15176591
>muh roads
And there it is.

[Anonymous No.15181169]

>>15181147
hmmph sorry kiddo but you pointed out the government builds roads, looks like your argument is invalid

[Anonymous No.15181236]

>>15181169
The government doesn't build roads, they just hire the contractors you dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.15181293]

>>15176635
10/10

[Anonymous No.15181366]

WAIT!

You do NOT pay taxes?

HOW WILL POLITICIANS BE ABLE TO AFFORD ORGIES WITH SINGLE DIGIT OLD CHILDREN IF YOU DON'T PAY TAXES?!

[Anonymous No.15181576]

I've never seen any normies irl debate the ethics/morality of paying taxes. It's just a fear of being fucked by the IRS

[Anonymous No.15181667]

>yikes, did you just not declare your income? you know my friend pedro has an IQ of 60 and he's on medicaid. all of civilization will collapse if someone doesn't change pedro's diaper. So pay up.

[Anonymous No.15181695]

>>15176591
We don't need government for those things, dumbfuck mouthbreather.

[Anonymous No.15181733]

>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T WANT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO RUN THE DMV TO DECIDE WHEN PEOPLE GET LIFE SAVING MEDICINE OR NOT??? ARE YOU SOME KIND OF HITLER???? THEY CAN JUST BUY HEALTHCARE AGAIN IF THE LINE IS TOO LONG AND THEY REALLY NEED INSULIN

[Anonymous No.15181813]

>>15176591
>roads
there's this thing called off-road car

[Anonymous No.15181880]

>>15179718
Americans are pussies who fantasise about defending their mcmansion from "niggers" or taking part in a nebulous popular rebellion of /k/'s Fudds against the government, but are really just sucking off their surrogate cock guns while waiting for niggers and the government to grind them into the dust.

[Anonymous No.15181893]

>>15181236
so they don't shoot you for not paying taxes, they just hire the contractor?

[Anonymous No.15182003]

I'm a government employee. So what if I pay myself 4 months per year? You faggots pay me the remaining 8 months plus bonuses. Feels good.

[Anonymous No.15182123]

>>15177427
>>15180184
the only reason why, with the technology that exists today because of capitalism and in spite of the expansion of government power, you would ever be forced into a situation in which you are literally incapable of not working for a short period of time without starving would be because of stipulations put in place by government
the reason why i am an ancap is because i have suffered through hell and back because of the effects of government on society and know that the real, practical effect of regulations that are "for the people" or otherwise government-centric in their nature (redistribution of property, enforcement of "intellectual property" rights, promise of federally enforcing often arbitrary and actually literally wildly harmful and innovation-hostile health and safety laws—all at massive cost to the taxpayer) is that they simply keep the status quo powerful and prevent any competition from challenging them

the way that i and any actual ancap see it is like this; if you want to govern yourself or be governed in your own private state in such a way that i will not be directly impacted, that's just fine—it's when you, in effect, hold a gun to my head and tell me that i need to pay for tyrone's poor life choices while telling me that i'm like a child for feeling resentful over it that i then FEEL like breaking your fucking neck for being such an insolent person, but realize that a much more effective way in which i can not and will not be held accountable for the guaranteed stupid and pointless death that you so perfectly deserve is to simply leave you and tyrone to your own devices while i fuck off to my nuclear-powered enclave in wyoming and just let poetry run its course between the two of you
it's the fact that you, and people like you WILL NOT LET THIS HAPPEN, and that you all PISS AND SHIT YOURSELVES at the thought of people like me no longer being your literal SLAVES TO COMMUNISM who have NO WAY OUT that is so telling

[Anonymous No.15182497]

>>15176591
>pays money so niggers can survive to rob you

Jfl

[Anonymous No.15182515]

>>15176591
Terrible bait but every brainlet fell for it anyways

[Anonymous No.15182579]

>>15176372
Of course I pay my taxes. How could you tell?