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Who can say where the money goes
Where the order flows, only time
And who can say if your portfolio grows
As your guru chose, only time

Who can say why your broker sighs
As your portfolio dies, only time
And who can say why your margin call cries
When your profitability dives, only time

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>> No.15172248

No one mentioned that Japan approved the first item of export to Korea after new export control measure, to a Samsung's factory in China?

>> No.15172331
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holy fuck i was joking about the (embed) editions, this is getting out of hand though

also, anyone else noticing that everything is dropping after hours? like steadily, most every stock/index, its not a one off from someones earnings....,something is coming

also, yesterday total smooth penis index dropped strait down, today at 4:01pm, it split in half, half max up, half max down

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>> No.15172395

kind of expect to crab here for a bit until news breaks as long as there are no wild tweets from orange man things should be level likely after hours has been notoriously overbearish the past week

>> No.15172397
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Market buy Bowl America (BWL.a)

>> No.15172398

So I just realized had I not sold my 1100 shares of amarin literally 2 days ago I would be rocking a 4k port right now. Jesus christ.

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All of its gains for the year: gone. So who's buying AMRN tomorrow?

>> No.15172481

what the hell
why is TD ameritrade saying I owe margin? I have 2.5k in cash in there and only lost twelve bucks on bad trades

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>> No.15172580

Isn't there some SEC law that says that you have to match your margin or something IDK much about margin trading though so don't quote me on it.

>> No.15172609

That's how it works
Read the TDA handbook or manual PDF or whatever they call it
If you still can't figure it out from the "using TDA for dummies" guide that they give you and all the other information on their website, then contact their help desk and ask them to talk you through it

>> No.15172611

I don't understand why I have a margin balance to begin with. I put 2.5k in to start...

>> No.15172616

Sold back at 19 also for a gain glad I dipped out I knew that guy who pumps it here was “fishy”

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I'm all caught up!

>> No.15172714

It's typically because you bought shares before your cash from your last purchase cleared. When this happens to me with Schwab it works itself out in a day or two without any interest charges.

>> No.15172731

Ok, looks like it pays itself from your cash if you resolve your positions. Do you know if you can "turn off" marign or make trades without it somehow? At this point it's just extra loss...

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Ah, good good. That must be what happened. Thanks anon

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bank transfer issues?
like you added money from bank, but bank money hasnt gone through (so you are using margin until bank transaction finalizes, within a day or two)

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Just made $10000 in 6 hours thanks to AMD, how you all doing poorfags?

>> No.15172894

Would seem to be the case. Still, I'm thinking of just using ToS for the charts and making all my orders on RH because the commission is way too big for the small trades I make.

>> No.15172964 [DELETED] 

Biz anons what are the risks of day trading a stock that has low volume thay you can literally day trade 20% of the entire days stock?

I take it you're a neet who day trades? How'd you get into day trading?

>> No.15172985 [DELETED] 

I hate how that thing refreshes with old news/stocks you have no interesr in. Triggers me into swiping it just to get it out if there.

>> No.15173005

Been a shit week. AMRN got a late knock on the door by the FDA. FDA says they want a Nov hearing on the drug. Then if that goes well the ruling won't happen till Dec. So the stock was heading up before this. Now it's $13 something.

So yeah.. FDA Bastards. Things were looking very good. There is nothing wrong with the Drug so this is just them blowing smoke. Fuckers.

T Babies still flying high though so thank god for that.

>> No.15173031

AMRN still seems like a good long term hold but yeah, anally savaged out of nowhere.

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you poor child

taste my REFR

>> No.15173141


>Biz anons what are the risks of day trading a stock that has low volume thay you can literally day trade 20% of the entire days stock?

For you tell sell, first you must have a buyer.

>> No.15173164

I'll probably jump in AMRN now glad I waited I thought 16.40 was looking juicy.

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Based. I bought INTC instead, heh :^)

>> No.15173177

Also Cramer is peak boomer but he's one of the few talking heads I've seen with a proper head on their shoulders lately...

>> No.15173253

how much do you have in stocks?
a million?

>> No.15173328

This shit makes little sense. The FDA already knows all about AMRN's drug. It's already approved for High Risk people. If they wanted the gritty details all they had to do was lookup the details in there records from the previous approval process. All this is for is to use the drug on normal people, everyday usage shit.

The Drug is the same shit in both cases.

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Based AMDChads, RYZEN. THE. FUCK. UUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPP!!!! I love you /smg/!

>> No.15173366

i own both :)

>> No.15173429

Do you really not know math?

"If your profit is $30k, at 19%, what was your initial investment?"

Are you really trying to invest when you can't do simple math problems? Explain to me how that works, in your pre-grade school math world. I gotta know.

>> No.15173454

calm down bro

>> No.15173525

isn't it something like y=mx+b shit with y=30k b=0 and m=1.19 then just solve for x

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i think he is asking about overall portfolio size, not his position in that particular stock

calm down ffs

>> No.15173550

am I missing something i am we're supposed to subract an x from that some where.

>> No.15173566

nah im wrong, he started with like 150k and fuck math.

>> No.15173572

I'm not mad, nor did I post anything angry. I really want to know how someone who can't do simple math intends to do any investing.

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is this fucking bait
you use fractions; 30k/.19 and x/1
cross multiply and solve for x
x is about equal to 157.9k

>> No.15173582

>"fuck math"
>In an investing/finance forum

Stay 4chan, 4chan

>> No.15173583

just fucking look at shit and estimate it, and move on, if you're 85% accurate, the slippage shouldn't be so bad that if you can do volume you're fine.

>> No.15173610

yeah there was oonly one variable. you're right. i knew i was like wait I have to subract a y out of this again, but just fucking look at it, 19% is about 20% 20% of 150 is 30, like you can't just do this shit in your head?

>> No.15173633

nah nigga i was actually right, do that shit again, and look nigga, i was fucking right fundamentally.

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>> No.15173650

oh wait ii used an inverse i didn't need to use, i'm fucking retarded for setting that shit to it's inverse.

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I'm tired guys I don't know if I can take this any longer. Someone put me to sleep please.

>> No.15173674

*contacting remote sniper in another country*

>> No.15173688

ok but remember you've got work tomorrow.


>> No.15173690

Oh yeah. I think I heard about that last night.

Looks like trade wars are over, chill out everyone. Korea is going to send us comfort women for the unnecessary distress.

I keep forgetting that Brexit is around the corner, and it’s totally fucked up.

You gotta go back.

He was talking this morning about the lyft lockup ending later this month, I think that there’ll be too much supply and not enough depend and it’ll hurt the market. I think I need to lighten up on some positions if they turn green tomorrow.

I’m in such a sea of hurt and pain.

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>> No.15173743

stop being a bear already

>> No.15173755

>Yesterday's OP Anon
do you ever clear your cookies or browser history?

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Close your eyes bobo

>> No.15173792

Century Link is trading around $10.00. (dropped after a bad earnings call)
Divvies are at %8.29, but share value dropped around %50 in the last year alone, something like 70 percent in the five year range.

Possibility of growth in fiber. Analysts seem cautiously optimistic.

Good idea to buy in now?

>> No.15173816

>You gotta go back.
Back where? Oh, you mean the real world, where people learn simple algebra before puberty? That world?

>> No.15173827

don't anger the trump memer. his inability to figure basic percentages is causing him great economic anxiety

>> No.15173858

when i was like 17 i was on something called the math counts team. i only joined the team because my school offered no more math classes after ap calculus. so what ever it's fall it's something nerds can do. i don't get placed on the a team because of such a sac of shit i am regarding homework and shit, so literally they take the only person in the school that had already got a 5 on the ap calculus exam and an A in the class put me on the b team or what ever, so i spend a fucking 2 hour drive home, should have been a fucking 45 minute but you know accidents traffic basically explaining triangles and fucking ratios, who cares.... they were smart kids, i ultimately gave up acedemia to do drugs and gamble full time.

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Damn, they had math counts back in the 70s? I'm pretty sure I still have my t shirt from being on the team in 7th grade

>> No.15173888

worst part of it all, the team lost, and i got every question riight and was done in less than 15 minutes spent the rest of the time at this thing feeling as if im in a prison, and that's that. fuck it do what ever you want. i'm fucking drinking whiskey again and feeling nice. can't wait for tomorrow when I get to goo to work.


>> No.15173895

Well, that certainly explains the rambling gibberish you just posted.

>> No.15173927

this was 2005... the guy who had a chinese resteraunt a few towns over used to put his children on display, they were really fucking smart... he hung up his wok once they started college. good man, he really understood what life was about.

>> No.15173953

you want rambling gibberish, you should have seen me debate and prep the a team. we won the great debate. I made tons of math debate, and masturbation jokes, but our debate team was prepped and crushed the prep school kids team, and we were a public school.

>> No.15173976

i dunno i'm fucking drunk, shit give me something else too talk about.

>> No.15173978
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Is there anybody who bought KHC at the ATL?

>> No.15173990

resistance around 12.5-13
maybe buy at 9 if it shows signs of reversal
id be careful

>> No.15173994

What did KHC do to fuck up that bad?

>> No.15174005

i lost a few thousand thinking i was grabbing the all time low at $35, i'm going to keep buying their products.

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> Well, that certainly explains the rambling gibberish you just posted.

That explains all the gibberish he always posts.

>> No.15174035

>he hung up his wok once they started college
He just straight up retired ?

>> No.15174048

*gives nice mix of ambien, lunesa, and valium*
no not indest while operate heavy machine O_O

>> No.15174051

redpill me on normal distributions

>> No.15174057

My lowest buy today was at 26.78

>> No.15174068

yeah it sucked, because him and his wife coooked the best food, and we would travel 2 towns over just to get it, and yeah dude retired.

>> No.15174078

Too much focus on cost-cutting instead of investing in their products (some say). This Patricio guy better be awesome.

>> No.15174092

Normal distributions don't matter much in the stock market
Have you read structure and interpretation of classical dynamics?
Have you read numerical recipes?
Read those first and then get back to us (by the time you read those you will be the master of all pills and basic distribution styles)

>> No.15174111

he was a han, and his kids were legit, smart as fuck, after his youngest went and started school, he started changing his hours, and finally hung it up. He didn't only teach his children, but he taught his competition, the chinese guys that work at that resteraunt, learned from him, he taught so many people to do things, but man he had a bar, and a store, and shit i bet his kids are enjoying themselves. Like me and like you. Life should always be about enjoyment, and if you're not liking it, change it up so you can.

>> No.15174133

whats a numerical recipe? I love reading cook books, there's so many fractions and numerals in those... the formating so nice and elegant on the eyes. The best used cook books you can find, you can't have, but they're covered in bits and splatters and their owners will choose to keep them and only give them up upon a chef they feel is deserving, and it's an honor that goes from chef to chef.

>> No.15174170

so basically just wait for shit to hit the fan, like i see more down to come, but everybody is all anonymous in these threads, we're comparing apples to oranges for fucks sake.

>> No.15174247

we got no way to define how we look at the market and individual stocks... and maybe the OP should be changed to have a spreadsheet of different timetables of the investments. noboody reads that shit, and the proof is how many new fags come in and are just, where do I start.. so get rid of that shit, and we start a tripfag war, updated google driives or some other freeformat shit we're all at different points, and different time frames.

I'd consider my self a day/swing trader. Some posters want something more, something they can throw in and not think about, we're not actively doing a god damn thing to help anything or anybody but our selves. this thread is basically a shoutbox, and shit it's got the 4chan shit to lead it too it, we need to honestly have a track record... or nevermind nah, lets just fucking shit post.

>> No.15174248

Yeah it was bad but least they ain't cutting the Divvy more. So long as they keep paying that Divvy it's all good. Company will turn around eventually.

But fuck man my biggest position, AMRN, got fucked by the FDA at the last second. Total bullshit. The Drug works. They (FDA) have had several months to question AMRN. Why now at this late in the year? Bullshit I say.

Stock was at $17.65. Now it's at $13 something. I've got 400 shares. Bought them all at 17 ish range. Now it's worth only $5200.00. Fucking FDA. Least my T babies are still flying high. (My other large position)

>> No.15174293

the FDA is backlogged, and approvals are for cheap drugs... The Democrats want Socialized medicine, they want a monopoly over the American people's health. This is what they are striving for with their legislation and they don't give a fuck about a common man. The saddest thing is, American innovation in the pharmacy industry is only great because of capitalism. The drive to succeed will always win, and I love you all.

>> No.15174321

If medicine is socialized and prices paid for drugs are put out by the federal government; what will happen to a sick person in a hospital, and what will happen to a small research and development firm?

>> No.15174354

R&D can take a long time, and cost so much money, people just lose all their money. We've seen iit before... But now we have socialized medicine... It works iin canada and europe... When was the last breakthrough drug that helped millions of people from Europe?

>> No.15174388

Sick person will die as the drug to treat him was never made and the doctors to treat were never trained. No reward nor need for efficiency to make new drugs so r&d is half-assed corrupt nonsense where people are paid to do nothing.

>> No.15174391

I dunno, I may sell the whole shit pot of it Friday morning. Take what Profit I can get. Judging by what's happening the only way AMRN will succeed is if they sell the company to Big Pharma, someone who has a big stick to knock the FDA's heads with. It's also the only way I'll make any real money with this stock, just going by what's happening now.

Yes the drug works. But clearly the FDA is against them. I dunno, may hold out a bit more, see what Dec brings. Least it'll give me time to let the stock climb back to least 18 so I can break even.

>> No.15174437

But really I should have sold at $23. Then I coulda made Profit and still have bought in again Friday at $13. But oh well.

>> No.15174451

What I like from the EU is the approval process isn't that difficult. These whores literally will take your drug and paperwork, but they do not fund this shit on their own and it's at the broken backs of us as americans to just give this to them for basically nothing, we have to foot the bill for everything from translators to hotel rooms, and of course it's peak season so hotels are being charged premiums... When america becomes that? We lose our edge on the market place, if there is fixxed pricing for medicine, there will be no reason to develop new medicines... but who even thinks about this relationship? the people at the front of it don't... my cousin worked for pfzier as R&D dude, he is now teaching high school science, i mean he's got fucking 3 kids now one in college two approaching that... Shit I forgot where I was going with this

>> No.15174488

>What I like from the EU
Stopped reading there

>> No.15174496

I mean sick people should die, but if socialized medicine is law, you will see uncle sam pulling the plug.

>> No.15174497

>thinks socialized medicine has fuck all to do with the pharma industry

>> No.15174500
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I'll hold KHC for the dividends and because that 3G Capital guy isn't running the show anymore. Knowing what we know now though, it's kind of fun to read the old articles from just after the merger, like this beauty from when KHC was at its ATH:
>good for shareholders :^)

>> No.15174529

i got fucked in the ass today, biz.. and not in a good way


>> No.15174546

So how do flagship funds work? How can a hedge have an employee only fund with much higher returns?

>> No.15174549

Is it wrong to get loans to buy stock?

I just got a $6900 loan with an effective 4% interest rate.

>> No.15174556

ok can you explain further, i'd love some enlightment

>> No.15174577

yeah but you're on your own. make sure to spend at least half of that on hookers and drugs.

>> No.15174592

Welcome to /baggiegeneral/ everyone.

>> No.15174617

I don't do drugs. Drugs are bad, oh k.

>> No.15174624

Trusted a financial institution in Brazil that loaded them with debt. That combined with cutting cost and raising their prices got them is some deep trouble.

>> No.15174661

I made money today :)

>> No.15174697


What do you mean sick people should die? Were you never sick?

>> No.15174699

I really hope the bears fuck off soon but most of my portfolio is in shit never to be sold still sitting on 25% cash at least so i can buy another dip

>> No.15174724

no, I sold half my portfolio

>> No.15174727

yeah drugs are bad... shit I remember that D.A.R.E. program, honestly i abuse drugs, i loved the cops, the best part of the program, was cops would come and talk to the kids. The best part was honestly the youth bonding with police.

>> No.15174744

Please tell me my meme bags will give me enough passive income to neet for eternity?

>> No.15174769

I mean my body has fought on and hard against every infection I have ever had... I've been sick, but why should my tax dollars go to prolong the life of an individual who will only need more... when is it time to pull the plug and socialized medicine basically will do this.

>> No.15174770

"Is it wrong to use my mortgage as collateral for more chips at the casino?"

>> No.15174796

son of a bitch, fuck you, the right to try was signed in by Trump, and we can use all the drugs on trial if we want. The fact is socialized medicine wiill stop new drugs from being made, new treatments. Fuck you, fuck your momma, fuck you.

>> No.15174839

"only if you lose"

>> No.15174859

Buy QYLD and you will be fine

>> No.15174868

well, I'm taking a student loan I don't particularly need so that I can continue to DCA at the rate I've been going without sweating the budget so much

to me it's a no brainer because student loans are low interest and it can only go so wrong because I'm living at home and I have had the same job for 6 years

but even for me it might not be a great idea, so depending on your circumstances, it might be a really bad idea

>> No.15174874

Some kind of fee. Did you calculate ecn fees? Were you adding liquidity or removing it?

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>> No.15175001

No it's fine especially if you are in dire need. Just give 10% tithe to Joel Olsten and put the rest into something extremely speculative like 1000x leverage currency exchange on forex or buy puts on a triple leveraged natural gas etf. God would never let anything bad happen to you.

>> No.15175089

If it's a government backed loan, it's dumb to even try to apply for one, unless you're actually in school, and then, you only get what's left over after the college is paid. So you're loaning 40k, to get 10k, but owe on all 40k, and the clock starts now. And you'd better know what the terms are if you drop out, or fail out.
Better to just take a gamble on a straight private loan, and risk all $40k. It's only your credit, income, and not getting sued for debt later on, and liens and garnishments, if you lose the bet.
That's if you think taking interest bearing debt out to gamble with is a good idea. I don't. But you do you.

>> No.15175131

Nope, Centurylink refuses to improve infrastructure in most of their markets and is going to get curbstomped by anyone willing to do so. If Starlink or any of those other sat nets pan out Centurylink is going bankrupt.

>> No.15175138

if day to day fluctuations mean something after living at home with the same job for 6 years... you had 6 years to figure that shit out, and should have been on with your life.

>> No.15175163

this is why we need a master spreadsheet, and trip codes linked to it, so we put some valor behind our words.

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Did you get your voting notice? I voted against every single one of the 3G Capital assnuggets.

>> No.15175245

Better to stay anonymous
The truth is more powerful than a tripcode

Like our future president Marianne said, “Each of us has a unique part to play in the healing of the world.” our uniqueness is what makes us special, not tripcodes or a spreadsheet.

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There is an investment vehicle available to only a select few. As of now, you are lucky enough to be among them. This investment will grant you a GUARANTEED 4% return, with NO RISK involved. It's a god-bond. The only problem is, you can only invest a maximum of $6900.

What do you think, are you interested?

>> No.15175255

I'm not sure what you're trying to say

my life is OK and I'm stacking money instead of moving out

I'm going to state college. School is costing me $650 this semester. $600 was paid by a grant (don't have to pay that back). The loan is for $4500

>Better to just take a gamble on a straight private loan, and risk all $40k
yeah nah

>> No.15175265

>That's if you think taking interest bearing debt out to gamble with is a good idea. I don't. But you do you.
I'm pretty sure I can beat 4%. I'd be stupid not to take it. I actually think you thought you were responding to the other guy and not me

>> No.15175292

six years went by you did what?


>> No.15175316

I paid for my gf's surgery

>> No.15175330

you're not married? shit you aren't married after 6 years... good luck, you sound like a cuck

>> No.15175345

The absolute state of poors...

Anon. Quit trying to shame him with his past. It doesn't matter what he was doing, what's important is what he does now.

>> No.15175361

nope and nope

>> No.15175379

you see, if you're not putting a ring on that finger and getting married after saving her life, and she gets away, youre fucked.. sit your shit better back and go forward, 6 fucking years you've latched ontu damaged goods and shit get married and live debt free. IIf she's your one for all, put her in a job, and damn give her a job, and put a few kids iin her while she's doiing that you negotiate with her emplyoerrs and fucking rock the world, give her health insurance, so you don't get bad bills.... pay off your bills first, and pay in cash for everything you want, just be like me.

>> No.15175398

sorry i've been on other boards

>> No.15175411

shit.... you make a great point.. and honestly we are always forward looking thinkers in this place...

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the reason centaris no rebuild the infastructuree on centari prime was for make theur planet eternal monument to their betrayal by aliiance and starlink

the old earth gov going bankrupt had nothing do with them but because of general incompetance, thats why the yellow scarfs took over

>> No.15175606

What are you even? That picture made me feel special though so you get a pass.

>> No.15175667 [DELETED] 

Weibull dist is more applicable for real world

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>> No.15175709

Highly doubt in. All the telecom corps have an implicit agreement to keep infrastructure the way it is so they can continue to reap in a steady revenue without worrying about any additional expenses that come from upgrading. A pure essence of "Don't fix what ain't broke". It ain't broke as far as they're concerned.

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hory shittu bro, this is a great artist
thanks nigga

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ratsu have been arest for RKG appropriation

>> No.15175752

i used to get baby sat by a broad at her house, kindergarten is like only half a day so there i am wiith 4 and 5 year olds, basically long story short she over dosed on heroin between the 20 years since then, i hated nick jr as a cop out and always wanted to go outside and just have fun as a kid, rainy days were when we would watch that shit, but goiing outside looking at everything, and the best was the snow, when snow was every where coming out of the sky... we fucking went outside and made shit with the stuff that melted, we were still outside, the best part if you were thirsty and you just ate the fucking snow. how good that feels.

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ratsu dindu nuffin, and RKG has no authority in our forum.

>> No.15175795

deans foods and shit sorry, ii don't see how companies report quartly losses, and expect to be good... like iisn't a business about being profitable and debt free? i mean i'd flee from majority of the shit posted here.

>> No.15175806
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Me think me do.

And you am out of order. *wacks with gavel*
This whole thread am OUT OF ORDER *beats ratsu bloodu*

you are setenced to 20 years of watching nc junior and never being able see snow again. 20 years for every year you made baby sit OD.

>> No.15175832

i guess i feel like elizabeth warren, and her native american people who were walled out from wall street in the 1600s

but to be fair her ideas won't help anybody except the people who are deemed beyond help which has been an answer for people from her school and hospital.. elizabeth warren's chickens will come home to roost and she's going to be so disappointed i'm fucking almost feeling sorry for her.

>> No.15175866

we need to go back to common law, something from mid evil times, jury by peers, and let the jury judge, you're ok to call me out, but common law... You're not the judge of me.. I can post this.
this song may or may not have saved my liife,. but it's bliiss.


>> No.15175981

kylie minogue had the cancer too, and shit she recovered.. and still tours the world.. now that you are healthy, what is your goal, i'm sure when you were sick living was your goal, so today... what can you say to us, everybody including me.. I know I never told you to kill your self, but now that we are celebrating your opportunity to continue to produce... of course the crowd will shame me, but shit... i'm just as happy as to step into a fight so you never have to do that again.

>> No.15176140

Only good post in this thread 2bh

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you are too pure for world

all charges dismissed

>> No.15176167
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Here is the loan

>inb4 that isn't 4%

>> No.15176207

its just called that bcause they r flexing on u
>6.99% APR
man I'm not even a nerd and I know thats dumb
you are basically giving someone else free money
bad idea IMO

>> No.15176222

what percentage of your paycheck do you invest into the market /smg/?

>> No.15176230

>bad idea IMO
Only for those that are scared or lack financial intelligence. That said hey it is just a technique. Could work out well or could fail.

>> No.15176260

about 50% of post tax. 2-3 grand a month, not counting 401k

when you ask a question like this, don't forget about half of our posters don't have an appreciable paycheck
you should ask, what percentage of whatever allowance their parents give them and birthday money that they get from their grandparents gets invested into the stock market

do it dude, just keep us informed about how it goes ;)

>> No.15176319

take it pay it off early and ask for more

>> No.15176389

>tfw no rkg babysitter
what're we doing tonight, babysitter?

>> No.15176403

i have my emergency funds, no debt, and invest the rest in different stuff, property, emergency fund gets larger... don't buy property right now especially with a loan. inflated values for property are here becauuse of 10 years of 0% rates, and as rates come up, we'll see a pressure on prices, now that's not to say there are properties that will increase in value, but location location location, buy low and sell high. and property you pay taxes on this shit, so make sure you've got tennets and maintain the thing, you end up gettiing fucked when belts tighten up and people stop spending as much... i think property values are at a peak and its still location, property only fucks you if you can't meet payments and the tax man, the tax man is the fucking worst part of it all, so fuck the tax man, have a good location, and enjoy it, but don't buy try to find more buyers, we're at a cusp on this one.

>> No.15176459

sorry, you were looking for a number 90%

>> No.15176483

that's post tax man.. taxes fucking suck and eat up all the money i make, so i'm talking post tax dollars, and like shit theres so much money out there... i fucking made 50 grand this week not on the stocks but shit, thats cash i have to get with my accountant and filter out... stop being retarded and learn these rules.

1 life
2 liberty
3 be happy

>> No.15176538
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should i add amrn to my meme account now that its cheap?
>Y for Yes
>N for No

>> No.15176555

put $50 bucks worth or what ever, it's a fucking meme. Thusfore Y

>> No.15176620

I did it. Got to wait for loan approval.

>> No.15176644

look for a $5 gain or loss, and just scooot, i have no care about the company, but the shit got fucked up like what ever if it's cheap and you've been monitoring, lol shit look at their last balance sheet, and shit... there's lots of things to look at.... fuck it buy 50 bucks and if you dip to 45 bucks cut loss, it's one less 5 dollar thing. i don't care amrn dude was so sure of it, and now we might not see him as much.... buying at low is great though, chasing shit that's up 20%+ is uhh unsustainable, and basically gambling at that point. but shit can reverse split and dilute infinitely if you're not careful... meh i don't care i'ma plan a vacation this weekend.

>> No.15176697



>the yellow scarfs
based. I liked that stupid anime.
Always had really good OP's.

>> No.15176730

Absolutely Y. Its a shilled meme so it belongs
Also put CHK in there as it has repeatedly JUSTED so many here despite never being shilled. Its everyone collective eternal bad idea.

>> No.15176754

CHK was my free stock from RH
Clearly they knew what kind of investor I am.

It is now worth less than half of its original value.

>> No.15176828

just wait, 2020 is the year that oil makes a comeback and goes to $200/barrel

CHK to $60

>> No.15176850

chk has been shilled here for months, are you just not paying attention and retarded or are you just a stupid faggot?

>> No.15176887

we went through the entire permian basin and energy and how the influx of everything was going to drive crude prices lower and that this year's spike in uso was going to occur earliier than usual, but you ignored the data and fucking still long crude and MLPs fucking moron.... I sold like 70 grand worth of MLPa back in march or april, shiit you're kinda fucked, i get there is development, but there is nothing coming out.

>> No.15176924

I have never seen CHK shilled here only people screaming about how it has fucked them
Also go to bed your drunk and multiposting

>> No.15176927

you have too many competitors, ever heard of too many chefs in the kitchen? you're all looking to lower costs, and competing with one another and driving prices down... im sorry you're fucking being beyond dumb at this, but go ahead and export it, and sell for cheaper prices... I love these cheap gas prices seriously you guys are doiing great work.

>> No.15176942

like fucking 9-6 months ago we were talking about shit... you fucking dolt.

>> No.15176954

Really pisses me off that we flare off all that natgas just because no one wants to buy it.

Why can't they just store it for a while? You know that shit will be precious in the future when it's not so easy to come by.

Just seems like such a waste.

>> No.15177072

How'd you do that? Ive dabbled a bit with photoshopping but idk how to get that effect

>> No.15177077

I store up all my farts for the same reason

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suggested books link is dead

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Twitter trying real hard to get me to see this Dora movie. And sending me notifications about Ariana fucking Grande's new album or whatever.

I hate this shit. I wish Trump used TikTok instead. But I guess that app is Chinese...

>> No.15177099

Whats been happening? Feels like smg is dying

>> No.15177125
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the market has been crabbing really hard recently
we've lost about a dozen posters in the past week to self-killing when they lose all their money

people who went hard long with calls, people who went hard short with leveraged ETFs and puts...
their families never saw it coming

Friday-Tuesday were pretty hot, we were going through threads pretty quick. posting rate last 48 hours slowed to a crawl, about half

>> No.15177182

The candle that burns brightest dies first.

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Dora looking... about alright. I wonder if /tv/ is freaking out about her...

I've also been seeing threads lately about how /biz/ is dying, I think these things just happen in waves, there are rotations, just like in the stock market.

An anon may get heavy into biz, and then rotate into /fit/ or /lit/, maybe /k/ /ck/ etc.

but we also had a recent crop of VERY retarded name/tripfigs who insisted on shilling memestocks, and really lowered the quality of the threads. Wouldn't surprise me if people lost interest with that shit going on.

>> No.15177442

I think a lot of zoomers don't have the attention span to really learn about the stock market, or hang around eclectic general threads like this one and sort of enjoy the culture

most of the new posters we get that come through here just want to post things like
-"what stock should I buy"
-ask us to spoonfeed them investing concepts that could be looked up on google or investopedia with a single click
-ask us to explain something about their brokers' interface

and then even if you spend the time to try and give a good reply or start a discussion with them, they just leave.
No one lurks and then joins the threads, the only discussions we ever have are the thread regulars...
It's just my opinion, I feel like a lot of the younger posters that we have come through cannot become part of the old general thread/forum culture. It's just foreign to them, it's too much for their attention span. They want quick little one sentence question/answer online interaction

I always end up feeling like an idiot because I write lone posts and I feel like people don't even read them, much less reply. so I don't come to the threads as much, and when I do I don't say much, because people will only read your posts and respond to them if they are two lines or less

>> No.15177461


don't forget to subscribe to my livejournal ;^)

>> No.15177484

I read this whole post. I agree.

I hope it made your day...or night.

>> No.15177508

CHK has been shilled like everywhere. Never seen such a retardedly strong following for a trash stock.

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Mostly true, iktf.
But investopedia can't answer questions, you just have to hope that if you keep reading you stumble upon the answer (or forget the question)

But anon, it's so cheap, maybe it'll go back to it's '08 levels!
It's a fossil fuel company that doesn't pay a dividend, so it must have insanely high growth!

>> No.15177564

I bought SPY puts on Wednesday and got pretty JUSTED yesterday so I drank a lot and went to bed at 5 and just woke up.

What'd I miss late night frens

>> No.15177616

I've got $1600 laying around in my RH should I load up on KHC?

>> No.15177634

really you should go to discord or something if you're looking for validation all I know is that you're a retarded trip who should off himself

>> No.15177685

what the fuck is crabbing the market has been volatile these last few weeks

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crab market doesn't mean "the market doesn't move". if you've ever seen crabs, you know that they move a lot, but they have to scuttle side-to-side.
crab market means that the market scuttles back and forth (up and down) in a range

The point of a crab market is that people who take out time sensitive positions (directional long option plays, leveraged ETFs) can get banged up unless they time everything well. lotta people got snibbed in the past few days. some played it smart and got out alright


>> No.15177864

Korea will pending the converstion untill september because 8/15 is korea independence day

>> No.15177866
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It's ok I feel your pain with some unironic zoomed by shitposters. Personally I feel disconnected from 4chins in general. I've been on this site for almost 7 years except I still feel like a an outsider. Maybe it's because I lurk way too much. I probably post for every 1000 posts I read. Also it usually takes me a day to think over some things you guys say and by then it is too late. So maybe there are a hidden multitude of other conservative lurkers like me, enjoying your posts. Have hope anon, your words will be remembered if not (you)'d :)

Also I'll sub4sub your liveblogger

>> No.15177892

Why buying regular stocks when you can buy the leveraged? Time is the unmovable factor!

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Futures crashing, dead cat bounce confirmed, FUCK BULLS

>> No.15177962

wait, the economy has dead?

>> No.15178018

Big oof, didn't snss anon say we should be above a dollar by this point? there was an after hours pump on earnings call day, but that was washed away by this morning. Whats in store?

>> No.15178150

You pay a fee for using the leverage, so it's not worth it if you plan on holding the position for long. You may also lose all your money in a small price swing.

>> No.15178248

goddamn it I really need to sleep, market opens in 5 hours... how badly am I going to regret it if I sleep through the open?

>> No.15178308

you can make a worse decision because of sleep deprivation

>> No.15178406

True enough... though I expect something like a bell curve tomorrow, so Waking up late is not great.

>> No.15178480

>Oh yeah. I think I heard about that last night.
>Looks like trade wars are over, chill out everyone. Korea is going to send us comfort women for the unnecessary distress.
It bring some reality and deescalation into the situation but I don't think it's over jist yet. The approval just show that Japan is actually just controlling instead of totally ceasing the export of those material to Korea as some wrongly interpreted

>> No.15178751

SNSS Anon is completely clueless. That guy is shillimg memestocks all day...

>> No.15178755

if you don't have at least a 500k port by age 30 you're a failed human being

>> No.15178809

Btw: daily reminder to not listen to this weakbrained snss shill. :)

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>if you've ever seen crabs, you know that they move a lot, but they have to scuttle side-to-side.
But what if crabs are really walking forward and everyone else is walking sideways? That would be a real plot twist wouldn't it? It really makes one thonk.

>> No.15178845

It's ridiculous. They're literally curing cancer, and then you have these morons saying, "yeah, I'll give you 74 cents for it."

>> No.15179047

So after a good night's sleep I've decided to stay in with AMRN. I see the fuck up that happened yesterday as a setback nothing more. So what If I gotta wait a few more months? It ain't like I'm broke or anything. At the end of it you gotta trust the Drug, the big time institutions (baker bro's,etc) who ain't selling and the annalist who're still saying "buy" like mad.

There is positives. Profit, AMRN's drug will bring this in by the assload. Big Pharma will not let that Profit just pass by. Canada approval process still on track. So if Canada approvals before our FDA this puts more pressure on FDA. FDA would look like fools if they deny AMRN. Big Pharma would lose Profit.

>> No.15179048

I'm almost there brah

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Rate my folio, Chads

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Why is Bosch not in the DAX index?

>> No.15179211

besides I still got my T babies,etc to help me cope.

>> No.15179257

That's a little harsh, Anon.
If you were to graduate at 22 and start building wealth, that'd give you 8 years. $62.5K/yr? That's certainly made it mode, but those doing less are going to make it too.

>> No.15179284

Guys, why aren't you all in cash right now. I don't want to see you all get JUST'd like the normies

>> No.15179300
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I will try my best to make higher quality posts and contribute to the discussion!

>> No.15179313

How would that increase my portfolio?

>> No.15179314

We were up 2 points yesterday off no news. This is just some normal pull back. Averaging down at open

>> No.15179319

Thanks gwim

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>> No.15179349

>Still gooseposting
Not going to say you're not going to make it, but...

>> No.15179358
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You guys are literally getting a chance to have the foresight to buy before yesterdays massive bull run and you guys hate it

>> No.15179359

Why would you miss us, just use your wagie money to buy stocks. Ez

>> No.15179360

This also gives AMRN more time to get the word out about the Drug. They're still hiring sales reps. Drug sales are skyrocketing (It's FDA approved for older high risk folks).

So come Nov, AMRN can bring in doctors,etc to testify to the drugs effectiveness. The Data results, etc. Under so much pressure and the risk of pissing off Big Pharma (Lost Profits remember) the FDA will have little choice but to Greenlight AMRN. Especially if Canada Approves first

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Ok now why the FUCK is Shopify going down in premarket after beating ALL estimates in their Q2 earnings yesterday

>> No.15179411

literally every indicator is pointing towards recession senpai. Sell and buy back at the bottome when blood is in the streets.

>> No.15179427
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post your position so i can laugh at you like i did with this guy. You obviously don't follow futures or the live market because if you did you would see this thing is manipulated to shit. Next week were testing 300.

>> No.15179454

Just keep selling premium.

>> No.15179524

> I saw us test 293 4 fucking times yesterday
Yeah, these market makers won't let it go down at all, it is manipulated to shit.

>> No.15179545

Two days ago we failed like 6 different times in the day before we got a V and then sky rocketed. If you watch futures you'll see even more how manipulated this is. We'll actually more than likely be green for the day.

>> No.15179550

This has been over a decade long bullmarket. You are right it has been manipulated as fuck. We are about to hit a recession hard af.

>> No.15179555

Unless you're long term collecting SQQQ shares you're going to lose money.

>> No.15179570

It could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

>> No.15179571

>literally every indicator is pointing towards recession senpai
Oh yeah, like what?

>> No.15179577

>who were walled out from wall street in the 1600s
The only wall that kept then out of wall street was spending all their investment capital on firewater.

>> No.15179612


I don't really have the balls for that desu. I am just sitting in cash rn but maybe I should do it.

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I'm all in on SQQQ and BBOZ.

Don't give a fuck anymore.

>> No.15179681

I was thinking of doing SQQQ options, a buy call for $35. do I have a gambling problem?

>> No.15179688
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>were heading into a recession, SPY is going to tank sell everything
>"i don't really have the balls or confidence in SQQQ DESU"

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Are there any alternatives to SQQQ in order to profit from a recession? As in, other ETFs or (even better) stocks that typically profit from such a period?

Asking because my eurofag broker won't let me buy SQQQ, TQQQ and others of that kind

>> No.15179705

sdow, and yes a load that's just one off the top of my head

>> No.15179724

SPXS is a good one, I made some money on its counterpart yesterday SPXL

>> No.15179725

Any on Vanguard? That is where I have all my shekels waiting to clear after my sell earlier this week.

>> No.15179730

>Are there any alternatives to SQQQ
With all do respect, if you have money you're not ok losing, you should take a step back and open up a fake account and play that for awhile.

>> No.15179741

Bonds, bullion, bitcoin, bullets

>> No.15179751

Probably ETFs and mutual funds that strategize on dividend aristocrats or REITs.

Alternatively look for stocks that don't trade along the S&P index and find out the instructions that hold them and hope they have funds with alternative strategies.

>> No.15179752


If I am sitting in cash and waiting to buy until the next recession is it not a pretty safe bet to just sit in SQQQ? You fags have me thinking about it now so I am not sure if I should or not.

>> No.15179780

Also stocks with betas not close to 1 tend to not follow the indexes as much. So if the markets are down those may do well.

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maybe if it annoying tripfaggots werent flooding the thread with one reply after another of their uninteresting bullshit ramblings things would be better? look at how many posts the fucking redditor bagholder has itt alone, its like he is talking to himself he cant even reply to multiple posts at once but makes a separate post for each reply. The real problem is not the newfags asking for spoonfeeding but the tripfaggots treating this like their blog and asking for leupvotes

>> No.15179793

>is it not a pretty safe bet to just sit in SQQQ?

Best case scenario you don't get snibbed or snabbed too much by decay.

Worse case scenario, one of the partners in the option swaps goes tits up and you get back a fraction of your share's worth.

>> No.15179801

How much cash? If you're inexperienced, it's risky playing 'call the peak'.
Then you'll double down.
Aaaand it's gone.

>> No.15179822


SQQQ is an inverse x3 of the Nasdaq 100.

It's not a safe instrument. It's a risky instrument. You should not be buying just because we're talking about it.

Remember, the market usually always goes up.

>> No.15179837
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Dividend bros -
Just realized the company I work for (Fortune 500) offers a stock purchase program. It's a discount of only 5%, but it's also an 8% dividend paying stock (2% every quarter).
What percent of your paycheck would you invest in this? Is it not a near guarantee of 15%/yr?

>> No.15179850

im sitting on 100K cash right now. I feel it in my bones that a recession is soon though. I am willing to foregoe any temporary upside the safety of already being out when it crashes because I know we will be lower than we are today.

I am not, but I am jsut starting to look into inverse stuff since yall mentioned it.

I know I know totally empirical.

>> No.15179877

New ATHs today, check them

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I think only 5% of paycheck has been going into the program since the beginning of the year and it's up 17%
No, you're crazy if you do SQQQ. If anything, find a bond fund or 3%CD.
It's not sexy, but it's safe. That's what you need right now. Tie your boat to the dock.

>> No.15179886

Impressive, very nice

>> No.15179895

Both SPXS and SQQQ are close to their 52 week lows. So I thought it would be a good investment since I also feel the recession upon. We arent close to the waterfall (yet) but I think the market is going to fall as it gets priced in.

t. Guy who's investing 1k

>> No.15179898


>I feel it in my bones that a recession is soon though

Bad way to think mate, you're going to lose your money. So many people in the last 10 years bet against the market and lost their shirts doing it. The Nasdaq 100 has been unrelenting in appreciation.

If you want to do an inverse ETF do one that isn't leveraged or is at least x2, not x3.

PSQ is the x1 inverse of the Nasdaq 100.

>> No.15179943


Yeah, and if Trump does a deal with China the market will skyrocket.

The man is a charlatan that oscillates.

>> No.15179950

PSQ, DOG, SH, and RWM are all 1x leverage inverse of NASDAQ, Dow, S&P, and Russell. Much better for shorting the market.

>> No.15179974

I am the 100k anon I am phone posting as I'm headed into work. So I've got a new ID. I know the rational thing to do would be to put it into I bonds or CD but I really want the liquidity in the event there is a crash I can go back in on the bottom

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Crab day today lads?

>> No.15180000

Not a bad idea. Yields are historically low anyway. Ina high volatility environment, when the market drops, it's tougher to enter because of wild swings. Eg the biggest up days %wise are all during bear markets-then large drops followed. What I'm saying is it's better to enter having missed the exact bottom and waiting until volatility has subsided.

>> No.15180009

Probably going down but yeah it's probably more crabbing overall. People are just losing their shit for some reason.

>> No.15180032

So you are a proponent of not being as liquid because you should not be entering during a high volatility time?

I've never bought CDs before so I don't know how long it takes to actually get out of those

>> No.15180073

CDs have different maturities. You can buy a six month or a 1 year, etc. Some even let you get out before maturity, but that typically is not without penalty. Just shop around online and see what's available and if it suits your needs.

>> No.15180110

No, I meant hoarding cash is not a bad idea. You are looking at +2% apr v waiting for the market to readjust after bottoming out and being able to enter for much >+2%. In a recession cash is king. Unless you really need an extra $2000 per year.

>> No.15180111

just buy a short term bond ETF, around the same rate as a CD (crappy) and no penalty for selling. also stop thinking you're going to buy the bottom, that won't happen. you already sat on the sidelines during the 20% correction

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Getting 30k shares of OSS. Wish me luck boys.

>> No.15180160


thanks! Looking into those

>> No.15180168

I will buy the bottom because I am waiting to the recession happens. If it takes 3 years I'll be fine.

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Here’s a tip if you want to make money
YETI calls. Sept 33’s

>> No.15180204

good post bro, I lurk erry day but I post like once a month and you made me do it.

also look at the fucking baggie tripfag, he's gonna kill this general, srsly it's becoming impossible to read. i would love to filter out that faggot but i hate loosing context, so i guess i just need to pray and wait for that retard drink himself to death

>> No.15180217


Nobody can get the bottom unless they are very lucky.

I think if someone can get within 10%-15% of the top or bottom, they are doing a very good job and there is money to be made in a long term hold.

If we do go into a crash, and not just a flash crash like 1987 or that 2010 flash crash, but an actual genuine market downturn, the bottom has the possibility of not arriving for 12 months.

Market peaked in 1929, bottomed in 1932.

Market peaked in 2000, bottomed in 2002.

Market peaked in Dec 2007, bottomed in March 2009.

I have a hunch that due to the mass adoption of algo trading/ETFs, that any downturn will be a lot faster in the modern day though. Just a hunch.

>> No.15180255

agree w/ everything you posted. i've been in the market long enough to know that i can't time the perfect bottom, so you keep some cash or bonds and layer into the declines at pre-determined price intervals on the way down.

>> No.15180300

Woah look at these Lucky 7 Dubs!

KabbAlah BVLL in action

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>> No.15180375

Does it matter what day in September?

>> No.15180396

Good day today, i can feel it. All my shit i moved money too in the dip is exploding now

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>> No.15180428

Ror! You still own all of it?

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I told yall nigga YRIV was gonna run. The FOMO begins

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CLDR might be on a moon mission today - keep your eyes peeled

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Extreme overreaction to a positive ER that missed expectations by like a penny = RVLV cheapies this morning.

Still confident in AMRN too, buying more shares while it's flattened due to FDA delays.

DF is getting back to a good entry point but not sure how soon it'll take off again. The hope would be that new leadership will be able to at least stabilize things by the next ER.

>> No.15180501

>is it not a pretty safe bet to just sit in SQQQ
It's never a safe bet to just sit in SQQQ.

>> No.15180502

Who is this guy? I keep seeing him around the Chans

>> No.15180511

I didn't see any set ups I liked so I got into a leveraged short bond position anyway and now I'm getting fucked.

>> No.15180523

Just buy a vanguard SP500 with all of it. Bonds have shit yields and dont compound. Also stop living with the fear of some 'crash', economies recover. Buffet didnt run out and sell everything he had when the market crashed in 2008 or any other time, in fact he just purchased more and more. He literally never sells anything because he knows its all solid companies which can weather anything. An index does the same thing, you just get to be lazy and still get fantastic results.

1. It only took 5 years from 2008 for the entire market to recover, even if you just so happened to totally get it wrong (and you wont) you still get your money back. But that wont happen anyway because
2. There is literally no reason for a crash to occur, the world economy is slowing, not crashing, its still growing steadily
3. Literally nothing else beats just buying indexes and holding them, setting dividends to reinvest and putting more money in as you get it
4. NO ONE ON EARTH can time markets. You cant tell me tomorrows lotto numbers and you cant tell me if the market is going to go up down left or right. You're still better keeping your money in an index rather than it in a term deposit or bond with zero return due to non-existent interest rates

Inb4 some idiot doesnt know what an accumulation index and says it took more than 5 years to recover.

>> No.15180549

Why the S&P 500? Why not Total Market Index? Also aren't some bonds good to act as a hedge against stock market volatility?

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Why is there no Catastrophe Bond CDS ETF out there? I just want to bet one people getting hit by hurricanes and earthquakes. Is that too much to ask?

>> No.15180587

Why not tqqq and make more money. Or soxl is still cheap as hell

>> No.15180609

The CEO of YRIV duh

>> No.15180651

SP500 makes up 80% of the US stock market, which means it misses out only in mid/smol cap companies which return less than the other 80%. Case and point Total Market index has returned less over its entire history in comparison to the SP500.

In terms of bonds, there is no harm in taking some, the idea being if the market crashes and if you need money the bonds will keep paying out. But interest rates globally are dead, and all signs point to them getting worse not better. There is no reason to take them right now.

If you're paranoid schizophrenic you can take some gold as a back up. But there is really no need. You can diversify out by taking SP500 and another index tracking ETF somewhere else.

Also if you're not American then the SP500 might not be appropriate. Depends on where you live (if your index is better) because of taxes. Australians for example get taxed at 15% for US assets, but we get a rebate so we can invest without paying extra tax on American assets. Just something to keep an eye out for if you're doing foreign indexes.

>> No.15180665

Because leverage/debting is a revolver with 6 bullets in the chamber.

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high-risk-low-reward-but-still-good-trade is short silver nao. volume still vanishing still, gonna be red day on markets most likely no recover till close

>> No.15180745

My boomer bonds are the only thing in the green though

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I got the put contracts on this ticker, but it keeps going up, what do?

>> No.15180787


>4. NO ONE ON EARTH can time markets. You cant tell me tomorrows lotto numbers and you cant tell me if the market is going to go up down left or right. You're still better keeping your money in an index rather than it in a term deposit or bond with zero return due to non-existent interest rates

Nobody can time markets, but we can get a good understanding when markets are historically expensive.

The only other time the market has been this expensive was in 2000.

>> No.15180791

What do people even see in AMD? Their CPU's single core performance is so bad and unstable that it can never be used by governments in massive super computers for experiments.

AMD does not have experts and technicians that go to companies under warranty and give them support.

Intels Single Core performance still is light years ahead of AMD even when they have sixty cores..

Intel has way more support for emulation and intel never abodnons legacy stuff while AMD abandons legacy code etc so some stuff from even a decade ago cannot work on AMD CPU.

The only thing I see going for it is being used in Gamer Builds for people with a budget but even then with its bad single core performance and not stability its still way better to go intel to have a stable gaming rig.

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whoops wrong image

>> No.15180802

their newest server/workstation CPUS are some of the best around right now

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>> No.15180815

>Intel fags cope.

>> No.15180825

It doesn't matter. Intel is still better because they work with companies under warranty and provide support with code and custom stuff. You would have to be suicidal to go AMD only as a company.

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>> No.15180866

new !!!




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>> No.15180949

Look at what happened to AMD after they released Athlon 64 in 2003... it killed Intel's "netburst" architecture CPUs in performance/watt, which is the major cost determining factor in multi-socket servers and they gained a lot of server share (went from single digits to 26% iirc). Stock price went from $5 in 2003 to >$40 by 2006.

They're doing it again with TSMC's great 7nm process which is more advanced than Intel's. Desktops and laptops sit at idle most of the time if they're even turned on, servers actually do work so energy efficiency is a huge consideration, and they're highly parallel so single core performance doesn't matter.

Even ARM can compete with Intel in server https://blog.cloudflare.com/arm-takes-wing/

And AMD may repeat what happened after Athlon 64 too.. Intel released Core 2 in 2006, destroyed Athlon 64 in single thread and performace/watt, in 2009 AMD stock went under $3.

>> No.15181869

needs more (portfolio) diversity