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>be me, 22 college grad
>applying for colleges, wanted a steady interesting career that pays decently
>everyone tells me about computer science and how coding is the next big thing
>spend 4 years working tirelessly
>get cs degree
>graduate
>in the 4 years i studied, boomers and jews imported millions of foreign-born indentured servants for me to compete against
>went into debt learning to code for a decent paying job
>get to compete against foreign H1Bs that will work for half the wage that the employer gets a 15% tax break for hiring
>finally get a 35k/yr starting job in north texas
>literally 80% of the office is indian and it smells like shit
>be one of the only white guys there, boss is indian and clearly has favoritism to the other streetshitters

time to find a new career i guess, i'm done. any redpilled careers like firefighting or the military or some shit that anyone can chime in about?

>> No.15127922

>>15127889
How to mate with a cute nordic 13 y/o gf?

>> No.15127927

35k a year as a starting job is good
At least you didn't fall for the electrical engineering meme.

>> No.15127934

>>15127922
>calling finns nordic
lmao
also by being finnish, no other way since racemixing is literally illegal in binland

>> No.15127935

>>15127889
That sucks anon. You should raise capital and code some new game or app. Then launch it and hope for the best.

You have a skill, now apply it in your spare time.

You will find something to make and sell.. trust me

>> No.15127946

>he wasted 4 years in college instead of buying BTC and NEETing it up

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>>15127946
>tfw knew about btc in 2014

>> No.15128080

>>15127889
>somebody didn't read the writings of it grunt before picking Comp Sci
>complains about outsourcing
lel

>> No.15128103

>>15128080
What would you recommend a 19 year old NEET should do? I was thinking aircraft maintenance.

>> No.15128121

>>15127889
Computer science carrier nowadays is about having great idea and being able to make cool powerpoint presentations to find funding for those projects.
Otherwise you're going to die of boredom as a drone.

>> No.15128158

>>15128103
Something that has regulatory/licensing requirements that limit entry of workers into the profession. Aka medicine, law, engineering, trades (electrician or plumber)

>> No.15128445

>>15127935
Thought about this but it's too saturated now because every fag has the same idea.

>> No.15128985

>>15127889
I get a boner every time someone posts this Thot

>> No.15129098

>>15127889
This better be the same poster asking for help from pol instead of a copy pasta

>> No.15129133

>>15127889
Tfw I’ll never get a thot this hot

>> No.15129206

Always leave 10% of your salary for investments, most likely you will lose most of it in the beginning but as time goes by, you eventually start earning and once you found project like VID that yields 13x return in a little less than 2 months...you can start enjoying life a little bit more

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>Have almost 3 years experience in administration, recruitment, operations management and HR.
>Not a single response to my applications.
>All my previous jobs have been minimum wage or borderline minimum wage.
What fucking gives. Why are employers so god damned picky?

>> No.15129332

>>15129248
Because those are bullshit skills.

>> No.15129390

>>15129248
Not specific enough
Pick a field to focus on and work upwards

>> No.15129405

>>15127889
Some places still pay good money for software developers. Move to Australia.

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>>15127889

could this be as bad as working for kikes in a big bank?

>> No.15129429

>>15129248
FaceGoog’s HR Scan software told employers you frequent racist cartoon forums. You think it’s accidental that everyone here is a NEET? We’ve all been blacklisted thanks to lurking.

>> No.15129482

>>15129390
>>15129332
what the fuck am i supposed to apply to then?

>> No.15129574

>>15129098
i'm the same poster

>> No.15129583

>>15129482
All of them, especially paid interships
Pick a prospective field in your country or general region that you would like to progress in
Find credentials that would give you a bonus in that field and work on those
A college degree is kinda important too, but it's probably too late or too expensive if you dont have one already

>> No.15129594

Literally every board is /pol/.

>> No.15129668

>>15127965
i remember browsing the silk road for shits and giggles in high school and being amused that it was $100 for a whole bitcoin. to think my barely pubescent dumbass could have saved up a years worth of allowances and been set for life. instead, i spent it all on vidya and netflix.

>> No.15129709

>>15129482
Build your resume catered to make you look like the perfect applicant for whatever you're applying for. Bullshit however much you need to.

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>>15129709
How much bullshit are we talking about?

>> No.15129785

>>15127889

>everyone tells me about computer science and how coding is the next big thing

If it's a meme it's already too late. You basically bought the top of the bubble.

>> No.15129827

>>15127934

You call them southern then lol?

>> No.15129942

>>15129741
Like if you did a thing once vaguely related to a thing that's part of the job you're applying to, then you're highly experienced in that area and coordinated a team of yada yada whatever the fuck. Don't make up previous employers or anything just severely exaggerate what you did at the jobs you had.

>> No.15130116

>>15127889
If i were you i would quit immediately and do freelance and look for another job OR go back to school and do a masters or something.

I've been in this situation and it is the worst/waste of time. The pajeets are happy to be in america and their only ambition is to get a green card. When you work at their level your employer assumes you have the same goals (which is none). If you show a hint of ambition your boss views you as a threat.

Background: I used to be at a job that started with Euro, US and Canadian born folks. Then slowly the Euro, US and canadians started leaving and replaced with Pajeets looking for a green card. Immediately people started jumping ship. I left for double the salary and an office full of normal people.

>> No.15130137

>>15127965
I first heard about Bitcoin on June 22, 2013. This kid was mining it.

>> No.15130150

>>15127889
you could make the same money being a fucking security guard who does nothing for most of the time lol

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>>15127889
If you're going to join the military, join the coast guard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFb3yPtcakc&t=217s

>> No.15130164

>>15130150
actually you can make even more doing that

>> No.15130167

>>15127927
Why what's wrong with EE?

>> No.15130199

>>15127927
if you're doing fucking mindless bullshit

which people were paid far more for a few decades ago anyway

>> No.15130358

>>15127927
>35k a year as a starting job is good
No it isn't, the only benefit is it is in a field he studied for. OP learn and GTFO in under 6 months, you may very well have to move. Apply everywhere.
I started at 32k just fixing computers and hooking printers up 15 years ago. At 75k now in an expensive state, and have to contribute to my healthcare and pension now though.
Move, don't become stuck in a job you hate like me.

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>>15127889
i cant even tell if this is a face filter or not

>>15127965
i mined btc in 2010. no i'm not a gazillionaire

>> No.15130407

I had a 3.2 GPA in CS from a state school and basically sleepwalked into a $70k job in the midwest

get better OP

>> No.15130444

>>15130407
What job tho

>> No.15130447

>>15130444

Software developer. I shitpost for 50% of my day.

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>>15127927
>35k a year is good
for a gender studies graduate.

I was making $45K a year as a new CS grad in 1989. "Good" for a CS grad today is in the $100K range.

>>15128158
Don't do law. It got flooded out a decade ago. Too many lawyers, too few legitimate lawsuits. You either do insanely well in school and then burn yourself out in biglaw (100 hour workweeks, literally, with zero job security because everyone wants to take your place) or you get paid shit for some podunkville DUI defense job ($45K average). Meanwhile, you have $150K in law school student loan debt to pay off.

Something like half of law grads don't even get jobs that require a JD degree. The jobs just aren't there.

>> No.15130498

>>15127934
Wait, is it really illegal?
If true, finns are based as fuck. Congrats on this, really.

>> No.15130520

>>15130457
Pure law is shit
Law is best as a secondary to a main career, like a legal consultant to very specific industries

>> No.15130541

I’m an employer in North Texas. Sidecar this to a study in integrated marketing. Hook software up to other software to help make companies more money. They’ll pay you handsomely for it.

>> No.15131007

>>15127927
Hello fellow EE cuck

(>>15130968)

>> No.15131038

>>15127927
>tfw almost did CS
>did EE instead
>making 80k in a cheap midwest city
>job is dick easy, don't work more than 40 hours a week

idk not too bad senpai

>> No.15131079

>>15130520
Fucking tax lawyers CPA/JD literally cost a bar of gold for a 5 minute conversation.

>> No.15131182

>>15127889
OP should go back for Accounting/Finance and specialize in application development/solutions or business analytics. Any CS or IT people who have basic understanding of Finance or Accounting is worth their weight in gold and vise versa. Anyone who can work Tableau, Hyperion, Power BI and such have a ridiculous advantage over the dinosaurs who want to just crunch numbers all day.

>> No.15131209

OP, just learn SAP, Oracle, or some other highly-adopted Enterprise platform’s quirks. Find one that is still selling well, too.

You’ll be making $100k in two years.
$160k+ in five.

>> No.15131246

>>15127889
I almost fell for the CS meme. Well I did, but I fucked up sophomore year and got arrested for DWI and a some other bullshit.
Unironically the best thing that happened to me. Dropped out of meme college, got a job as a Software Engineer and now I make 85k/yr as a 23 year old college drop out. Not too bad.

The key is knowing how to program without the CS meme. If you can figure it out how to learn how to code you'll be fine. A CS degree is useless as all that shit can be self taught.

>> No.15132150

>>15127889
>Be born in first world country
>Have access to free education, best universities in the world.
>Get outmatched by pajeet from india.

>> No.15132708

>>15127889
You shouldn't work for an Indian manager if most or all of his reports are Indians. You're going to get ripped off on raises and promotions and he'll use you to train his incompetent fellow Indian monkeys. That said, if you graduated from a decent school with a halfway decent GPA, you can find work developing software that pays much better than what you're making right now.

You should be expecting at least $60,000/year with benefits as a full-time employee and that's the low end. In Texas, I think you ought to be able to get $65,000 - $75,000 starting easily in the larger cities (DFW, Austin, Houston). Keep applying for jobs and if your college has a good alumni network, use that to get an in to a better paying job. If you're halfway smart, you can easily reach a 6-figure salary with 6 years of experience provided you jump jobs or work for a company that actually appreciates and gives you raises commensurate with your capabilities.

The only real warning, assuming you're actually good at this kind of work, is that you have about 20 years in which to make enough to retire. After that, you're at high risk of being discriminated against due to your age. At the moment, don't worry about the Indians. They're trash and the companies that hire them know it and thus have to hire some people who actually know what the hell is going on.

>> No.15132743

>>15127889
Does she have a monkey face or she is making it up?

>> No.15132760

>>15127889
Get a money related job. Kick back with your money bros and do hookers and blow every weekend.

>> No.15132775

>>15127889
Get into high finance, especially M&A. Hard hours but pretty uncucked. You better bring lots of charisma, though.

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15132779

i'm in community college in an IT diploma program I'm shit at coding I was thinking of specializing in networking thoughts? Like I should get my ccna right? What's an entry level job I should be looking for? Please do not bully me.

>> No.15132854

>>15132779
Get an easy cert like comptia A+. Get a help desk job. While you're working in help desk study for ccna. Keep studying get ccnp. Become network admin. Maybe get a security cert and learn as much as you can. Become system admin. Keep working your way up.

>> No.15132951

>>15131182
im an accounting and finance major, about to enter the cuckforce. recently learning to code python but ive heard Tableau being thrown around at our school and some investment banks. Should i jump ship and switch to tableau or will learning the basics from python make it easier to learn tableau? as always, OP you are a huge faggot and so am i

>> No.15132990

All you alt white nationialists, huddling together on some small pathetic website. LMFAO

>> No.15133022

>>15130498
you fucking retard
i can't believe i'm getting business help from you people

>> No.15133065

>>15127889
what the hell is wrong with you? starting cs for the money in the first place is a dumb decision.
Also, not finding a 100k starting job in cs in the USA is not that hard. Either you are a complete brainlet or your skills are shit

>> No.15133105

>>15127934
She lives in Stockholm though, I know

>> No.15133138

>>15127889
>north texas
Denton? Funnily enough I'm going to school there too and make more than you at 19 while in uni. You are right, everyone here is some flavor of minority and ugly as sin, and on top of that the white people are drug addicts, obese, or both.
But actually, you wanna make cash? Shut the fuck up and go work. If your career field is over saturated do some other shit. I work in a specific kind of trade that is very relevant in the area, and work like a fucking dog for 12+ hour days in the summer heat, and organize my schedule during the school year to allow me to continue working full time in uni. I hate what I do, but I can make six figures with it if I keep with it by the time I graduate. There are no shortage of jobs like this in texas, and having a degree means you will be able to get to managerial and sales roles faster, so go out on the rigs boy and use your back with your brain, or hop on a truck with some redneck and have him teach you how to do something, do it better than him, then sell better than his boss. This is America bud, grow a pair.

>> No.15133165

>>15127889
>>everyone tells me about computer science and how coding is the next big thing
It is, but you have to be good at it.
It sounds like you got a job in a place that hires desperate people. Why was this the only place that wanted to hire you? Are you desperate? Do you give off an air of desperation? Look inside yourself rather than blaming others.
If you improve your skills you can get up to $200k in no time. Just need to keep levelling up your skills and switching jobs, or go freelance.

>> No.15133864

>>15131246
t. brainlet

I've worked with guys like you. I'm the one who ends up getting tapped to fix all the stupid shit that you've done.

I've improved the memory efficiency of a sodding enormous database-driven system by literally 98% by saying "gee, what if I move this to here, and shift all of these around to here, and write this routine to pass calls around here, and . . . WA-LA."

>>15132150
That's reality in 'Murrica. Employers don't care that you're any good at your job, they just see the immediate 15% savings in not having to pay FICA and the longterm savings in never having to give Pajeet a raise or worry about Pajeet deciding to move to a better-paying job where he isn't treated like shit.

>> No.15134603

>>15130498
>>15133022
kek

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>>15133022

>> No.15135445

>>15127889
Sauce on this thot? Just imagine the dick she gets daily, those hips are made for birthing

>> No.15135607

>>15127889
I’ve heard SAAS sales are very very lucrative

>> No.15135685

>>15127889
>tfw no 7/10 blonde white gf

>> No.15135750

>>15135685
>finnish
>white
pick one

>> No.15135994

>>15135750
she's swedish you fucking idiot

>> No.15136060

>>15135994
>swedish
>white
pick one

>> No.15136078

>>15135994
Shut your fucking mouth Sven

>> No.15136085

>>15136060
>>15136078
muttian hands wrote these posts

>> No.15136139

>>15127889
>15127889
>fresh out of college with a cs degree expecting top pay
>bitching about entry level work within the first year
you're a retard. if you want to actually advance in IT you need to pretty much have your hands of everything, not just coding. full stack developers and senior system admins need to know a bit of everything and you don't get to that level of knowledge without putting in years of work and exposing yourself to different technology.

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I fucking hate the private sector. I know the money for librarians is shit but it's the only place I've ever worked that I enjoyed. I was a page at a research library in college and every job I had before or after it sucked massive dick. I feel like I'm about to rage quit my job every fucking day I can't take this shit much longer.