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15115046 No.15115046 [Reply] [Original]

It's a zero sum world out there guys.


>The whole point of earning money is to have more money than the next guy so you can wealth mog him and take the limited resources that exist on this earth, while denying resources to your sexual competition
>If everyone were economically equal we would all be poor
>Even if everyone were equal economically there would still be Chads and Incels. Humans would find other ways to differentiate from one other and create some form of social hierarchy.
>there are far fewer desirable women than there are men. every time a guy gets with a desirable woman it leaves another guy with nothing
>Wealth mogging (aka capitalism, inequality, etc) allows physically undesirable men to have a leg up in the reproductive battlefield
>unless you are in the top 1% in looks, charisma, athleticism, etc it is in your best interests to perpetuate wealth inequality because it gives you an evolutionary advantage against poorer men who have better genes than you and would have mogged you 100,000 years ago in prehistoric times before the invention of currency, legal systems, and professions based on higher order abstract reasoning (which facilitate the accumulation of wealth)
>there will ALWAYS be a social hierarchy even in a perfect socialist utopia
>capitalism gives every man a chance to be sexually and socially successful while at the same time guaranteeing there will be an underclass of losers
>socialism leads to similar stratification but the hierarchy is more rigid. Intelligent men cannot leverage their IQ and other talents to the same degree as in a capitalist system. They have fewer avenues to differentiate themselves from less intelligent men because resource competition is no longer a viable sexual strategy.
>socialism will reduce the degree to which intelligence is sexually selected for because the evolutionary advantage given to those with high IQ's is diminished.

>> No.15115052

tldr

>> No.15115054

>>15115046
I stopped after the first green text. You sound like a beta bitch.

>> No.15115057

fukken saved

>> No.15115063

just win moar OP

>> No.15115065

dr;ns

>> No.15115069

>>15115052
op is a giga fag who makes excuses for why he isnt successful in just about every possible scenario one can imagine
that way when he fails he can blame it on capitalism, or socialism, or genetics, or wealth inequality

he never has to feel the burden that is his own undeniable failure, he can pawn it off on someone else who he believes pulls the strings of this clown world

>> No.15115072

Yes, liberals seem to think it's ok if people acquire power through their looks but not through their wealth.

>> No.15115073

>>15115046
Why do you so strongly assume the entire world will become staunchly socialist

>> No.15115075

>>15115069

I'm literally defending capitalism you mong

>> No.15115081

>>15115075
you are the underclass of losers. admit it.

>> No.15115085

>>15115046

>tries to reason with the same monkey brain that you are calling unreasonable

shutup and just enjoy life. trying to "figure it out" may seem like a smart thing to do, but its not a wise thing to do.

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>>15115046
makes sense

>> No.15115098

>>15115046
This is the most 4chan thing I've ever read. Incel.

>> No.15115107

>>15115046
So. I'm supposed to relinquish my individual freedoms just so I can get a semen receptacle? You need to kys.

>> No.15115113

>>15115069
What if he let you win so you could have this ego rant. But actually he doesnt care.

>> No.15115127

>>15115075
no you're not. you're justifying socialism as a fair system because ugly rich guys wouldn't be able to steal your maidens.

>> No.15115138

>>15115081

Even if I was, I'd be far worse off in a socialist system because I would still have to compete with the alphas for social clout but would have fewer opportunities to overcome physical inferiority. Mogging them with wealth is the best method for doing so and capitalism allows this to happen quite nicely.

>> No.15115148

the wrongest part is that you think there are fewer desirable women than men.

>> No.15115153

>>15115127

>implying I'm not an ugly rich guy

You seem to think that I'm condemning capitalism simply because I admit it isn't perfect.

>> No.15115155

>>15115069
true, I know many people like this. they go on disjointed convoluted rants like OP about how fucked up the "system" is, and how it prevents them from getting girls/money or something. How the "system" was skewed against them since birth. But could it be their own behavior causing them to fail? of course not.

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>>15115046
No. I want wealth so I can enjoy life, not work and fund transhumanist technology.
Life is not a 0-sum game. Better things can be created through work (machine or human) and innovation.

>> No.15115174

this kind of thinking makes you stupid and undesirable

>> No.15115178

>>15115046
You are right in that socialism doesnt actually make everyone equal.

>> No.15115188
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15115188

>The whole point of money is to finally be able to live the life you want. The pursuit of wealth beyond that is mistaking the race for the finish line.
>Resources are not finite, rather they are dependent on the technology available, which is always getting better.
>Who gives a shit about equality? The obsession with equality comes from feeling that people can only be judged by objective, numerical methods rather than the value they set for themselves.
>Social Hierarchies are the domains of Normalfags. If you care about them you're a cuck. A truly based man lives by his own rules and norms
>No women are desirable. All women are whores. Every man must master some skill in order to be feel fulfillment. A woman just has to exhale carbon dioxide.
>"Wealth Inequality" is a buzzword used by liberals to guilt trip capitalists.
>Socialist utopia is an oxymoron.

>> No.15115190

Socialism means I had wrist surgery done and it didn't send me bankrupt.
The completely absurd vision you burger faggots have of socialism that involves gulags and forced wealth redistribution is a sign of how fucking far gone you are down the propaganda drain.
It's like if I acted like capitalism just meant environmental devastation, offshoring of profits and constant undermining of workers.

>> No.15115210

>>15115148

Men DO outnumber desirable women unless your idea of a desirable woman is some 60 year old grandma. In the 18-30 demographic there are more men than women. Even worse is that you have men over the age of 30 trying to get with these women.

>> No.15115212

>>15115069
Based

>>15115046
TL;DR, you sound kind of like a beta male

>> No.15115222
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15115222

>ahem

>> No.15115234

>>15115188
Yup. Freedom is a greater good than equality. And it is easier to achieve

>> No.15115247

>>15115046
>Wind blows.
>Rain falls.
>The strong prey on the weak.
>All is as it should be.

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>>15115188
Based

>> No.15115250

>>15115166

>No. I want wealth so I can enjoy life.

you're in the minority. most ostentatious displays of wealth by men are for no reason other than to attract women and boost their status relative to others. all those 20 something guys you see stretching their budget to afford sports cars? It's to get women.

>> No.15115256

>>15115046
>>If everyone were economically equal we would all be poor
easy, just kill 98% of the population. now tell me there's not enough resources for the remaining people

>> No.15115262

>>15115190
>wats health insurance??

>> No.15115270

>>15115155

>disjointed convoluted rants like OP

I'm just shooting the shit on 4chan after having a couple drinks. Not trying to defend a dissertation lmao

>> No.15115301

>>15115256
You dont really need to kill anyone.

If there was a reason for people to die (they) already would done it.

They chosed the other way around and go to the accelerationism side, unironicaly tech will alow us to grow even more, the only problem is going to be land, and we will autowipe ourselfs because of it.

>> No.15115305

>>15115046
>fixed pie theory
lol retard

>> No.15115389

>>15115305

This isn't about material resources. It's about social dominance and reproductive success, both of which are finite and are in no greater supply than 1000 years ago. Social status is all relative. The modern world allows average men to live better than any ancient king or emperor, but when it comes to attracting a mate men as a whole are no better off than the peasants of several hundred years ago.

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>>15115046

>> No.15115459

>>15115301
Land isnt a problem. People get packed in cities. We can build up and down.

>> No.15115476

>>15115389
Wealth indeed gives ugly and creepy guys a chance. But I vote for artificial wombs and realistic love robots. ^-^

>> No.15115510

>>15115389
You know you don't have to have Capitalism to get some pussy if you are physically small and weak?
You can just learn and play really well a musical instrument (piano, guitar, singing). Music is a pussy magnet.

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>>15115510
To have enough money for good musical instruments and good musical teacher you need capitalism.

>> No.15115642

>>15115584
Go back play fortnite kid. Keep you existentialist questioning for later.

>> No.15116183

>>15115642
Nice strawman. Would be a shame if something were to happen to it...

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15116201

*YAWN*
Kys faggots with your "MUH CAPITALISM MUH SOCIALISM" I don't give a shit I just don't want to get a job

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>>15116201
As long as you dont steal from me, do what you want.

>> No.15116705

>>15115510
I started on guitar and got decently good. Fell into an existential alchol fueld crisis. Discovered piano. Now I really want to learn piano.

>> No.15117717

Zero sum implies your ultimate goal is something like consuming all organic material. You want other people to live and be successful so you can gloat about being more successful if nothing else.

>> No.15117734

>>15117717
it is not enough that I suceed, others must fail. That's why I'm buying TRV here.

>> No.15117756

>>15115510
Definitely wrong, I'm better on guitar than most people and it's never done shit for me. My friend is a touring musician who plays festivals and shit and he says the same thing. Playing instruments doesn't get you pussy but I think DJing does, despite it being the LARPiest thing ever.

>> No.15117953
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15117953

ok. here's some advice: take a break from 4chan and similar sites. take a break from puahate. look at the vocab you and i are familiar with. "mogging"..."incels"...."capitalism"..."sexual marketplace value"....yea yeah so what. at the end of the day, there are guys who can get laid simply by paying for it. don't even make up excuses like "it's illegal where i live". if you want it you can find it. even a poorfag making minimum wage can take the bus or fly to vegas and bang a whore. it's illegal but there's plenty of whores inside casinos and on the street.

really the only question that matters is: are you strong or are you weak? are you free, or are you a slave to someone else's control. if you live with your parents then obviously it's harder to go bang whores whenever you want, because they care about you and want you to do safe normal shit like get a job and find a clean, healthy gf. but that path is starting to crumble and breakdown. even high IQ guys who make large incomes either through work or business end up getting cucked or divorced. here is one example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssFXlNk6vw

you and i, we use so many words, and then wonder why "chad" and "jamal" get pusy. it's because they are out there, playing their game, improving their physicality, etc. meanwhile you and i "shitpoast on 4chan". you are a loser because your behavior is that of a loser. fix your shit before trying to wax philosophic on /biz/. yes resources are scarce. yes whores will be attracted to you for your resources. if all women are whores then you might as well just go fuck literal whores rather than play this fake & gay mating game of trying to impress women with your wealth, smarts, status. it's all bullshit.

>> No.15117992

>>15115069
b&r

t. "beta/omega" who landed a 9/10 while poorfag + neet

don't fall for the self-deprecating meme. some of you fuckers have literal model-tier looks and steady careers/jobs yet you let insecurity stop you

>> No.15118012

op gets it.. but it is not the final redpill.

the final redpill is when you realize you can dig up dead most attractive females in history and clone them.. or genetically engineer the perfect female. all you need is a fe wmilion dollars. and you can keep the females secret and to yourself in your compound

get on my level

>> No.15118023

Anon, society rewards those who produce useful things, which allows you to become richer than others in an honest way. The money given to you is an exchange for the wealth you created by doing something useful.

>> No.15118518

>>15115046
This is what Jordan peterson means when he says capitalism is not the problem. And hierarchy is far deeper embedded in biology.

Sad but True.

>> No.15118832

>>15117756
My friends tour and they SLAY. Every festival a new girl. If you do 30 gigs in a summer.

>> No.15119811

>>15118832
They fuck disgusting piercing having troll faced STD ridden "girls"

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>>15115046
>all the cope ITT

keep coping slaves.

>> No.15120078

>The whole point of earning money is to have more money than the next guy so you can wealth mog him and take the limited resources that exist on this earth, while denying resources to your sexual competition
Don't be so grim OP, the richest ppl don't have the most kids. The amount of resources needed to live reasonably comfortably plateaus early on

>> No.15120313

>>15117953
My husband
>has a job
>has one good friend, very unsociable
>is somewhat muscular
>we met online
>no disabilities
>he has this, but I feel jealous and angry thinking about his past women, I wouldnt mind if he didnt have any before me, I was a virgin before him
>nope, hes fat
>hes an extreme nerd, 130+ IQ
>his skin is okay, back acne
>we both really want kids, also how is this an unreasonable requirement?
>we split rent
>hes got a car because his job requires it and were American, not because women
>True
>True
>True
>Very barely true
>We had immediate mutual interest, no "chasing"

>> No.15120616

>>15115046
Dude just be lucky lmao it’s not hard

>> No.15120729

>>15120313
>My husband
GAY FAGGOT