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>> No.15107818

VIDT VIBEZ

>> No.15107868

whats the deal with this and LTO?

>> No.15107880

>>15107868
Good shit

>> No.15107882

>>15107792
Wait you guys didnt sell at 50 cents?
beyond r e t a r d e d

>> No.15107885

>>15107882
wait you didnt sell at 50 cents and rebuy at 20 cents?

>> No.15108074
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>>15107868

This will 25x in the next few weeks.

IBM Partnership confirmed, the only cyrpto generating revenue, confirmed adoption and clients such as airbus (97bn marketcap) and krohne, shell, etc are using this AS WE SPEAK.

And to top it all of, only a 5m market cap.

Tier 1 exchange confirmed in this quarter (rumours of binance).

DYOR.

>> No.15108190

>>15107880
good shit is an understatement

>> No.15108492

>>15108074
>airbus
it's only a small part of airbus

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>>15108492
tell me one other crypto with CLIENTS of the same calibre using their product?

>> No.15108797

VeChain

>> No.15108820

VIDT is a security token and will not be available on Coinbase, Binance, and soon IDEX.

>Framework for “Investment Contract” Analysis of Digital Assets
https://www.sec.gov/corpfin/framework-investment-contract-analysis-digital-assets
>The inquiry into whether a purchaser is relying on the efforts of others focuses on two key issues:
>Does the purchaser reasonably expect to rely on the efforts of an AP?
In this case, AP means "Active Participant" or V-ID.

>An AP creates or supports a market for,[17] or the price of, the digital asset. This can include, for example, an AP that: (1) controls the creation and issuance of the digital asset; or (2) takes other actions to support a market price of the digital asset, such as by limiting supply or ensuring scarcity, through, for example, buybacks, "burning," or other activities.
Buybacks and burning.

>The term "security" includes an "investment contract," as well as other instruments such as stocks, bonds, and transferable shares. A digital asset should be analyzed to determine whether it has the characteristics of any product that meets the definition of "security" under the federal securities laws.

>> No.15108832

>>15108820
Vidt fags on legit suicide watch

>> No.15108850

>>15108820
i am unironically going to sell after seeing this. wtf.

>> No.15108865

>>15107868
They offer to write transactions onto LTOs blockchain, along with BTC, ETH, IBM's hyperledger, and DGB

>> No.15108933

>>15108820
by that logic, BNB is a security. Is Binance going to delist itself?

>> No.15108971

>>15108933
>by that logic, BNB is a security. Is Binance going to delist itself?
SEC doesn't care about whataboutism.

>> No.15108979

>>15108074
its 7mln market cap u horse

>> No.15108992

>>15108820
DYOR.

READ THE WHITEPAPER EXPLAINS WHY ITS NOT A SECURITY TOKEN

>> No.15109007
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>>15108992
>READ THE WHITEPAPER EXPLAINS WHY ITS NOT A SECURITY TOKEN
Token not needed. See pic related. All you have in that tokenomics infographic are VIDT, Businesses, Exchanges, and Investors. There is no staking and there is no reason to hold VIDT.

Business wants files verified.
V-ID says that will be 12 Chuck E Cheese tokens or $1.55.
Business pays $1.55 to V-ID.
V-ID takes Chuck E Cheese tokens from their inventory, does the file verification and burns about 3 of those tokens from their inventory.
V-ID hops on IDEX and buys 1 VIDT from you and other anons.
Repeat.

What is the UTILITY of this token for you, anon? Why would hold 10,000 VIDT? Just holding it in case V-ID comes on IDEX and buys it off of you? Is that the utility right now?

>> No.15109020

>>15108820
o no sirs plz don't buy sirs i'm looking out for poor anons lunch money sirs

>> No.15109073

>>15109007

Web app released soon which will require VIDT faggt

Also VIDT will be swapple for VIDS in 2020.

>> No.15109120

>>15109073
>Web app released soon which will require VIDT faggt
Not for boomers and random people downloading it in the App Store. Confirmed by V-ID team they're not even sure of allowing you to validate/verify with VIDT. App will more than likely use FIAT through in-app purchases and bundles. They want to make money.

>>15109073
>Also VIDT will be swapple for VIDS in 2020.
VIDS are shares in the company. If you already know it can be converted to VIDS soon, that just confirms VIDT is a security token.

>> No.15109123

>>15109020
If this isn’t coping, what is?

>> No.15109129

>>15109007
Imagine spending your weekend "educating" anons on a fucking board.
Nice reddit spacing btw. Fuck man, this place is dead.

>> No.15109161

>>15109129
Your coin will never breach ATH. Ever.

>> No.15109183

Who gives a fuck.
Either way, they have already consulted with a lawyer about it, and it is in their professional opinion that it is NOT a security.

>> No.15109257

>>15108971
They go in order of size. VIDT is going to be declared a security before BNB is. So go troll the Binance fags instead
>>15109120
>confirmed by the V-ID team
you have no proof. Just manipulating the words of what another anon said to fit your agenda. Every. Single. Time
>>15109161
want to bet 50 ETH in a smart contract? If it doesn't breach ATH within 3 months you win. What's that? No? Insert excuse here? Insert some other bullshit here to make it sound like it's not an excuse? Couldn't hear you. You're afraid to bet within the safety of a smart contract? You don't believe any of the bullshit you're saying? You're just an all talk bitch made pussy? Oh. My apologies anon

>> No.15109267

>>15109257
isn't* going to be

>> No.15109284

>>15109183
>Either way, they have already consulted with a lawyer about it, and it is in their professional opinion that it is NOT a security.
A dutch lawyer. Do you think he studied United States financial law extensively? VIDT is not considered securities in Europe.

>>15109257
>want to bet 50 ETH in a smart contract?
You need to get banned for begging for money from individual anons.

>> No.15109295

>>15109257
>an all talk bitch made pussy
Lmfao you sound like a huge fucking faggot desu

>> No.15109298

>>15108820
>"The federal securities laws require all offers and sales of securities, including those involving a digital asset, to either be registered under its provisions or to qualify for an exemption from registration."

V-ID would simply have to register or apply for exemption. Not hard. And this is years away. Its also not a problem unique to VIDT. You might as well only buy BTC if this concerns you.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2144/text

There's a bill in Congress right now that would prevent all digital assets from classifying as securities. Tulsi Gabard helped write the bill. There is still a lot of division and debate happening.

>The registration provisions require persons to disclose certain information to investors, and that information must be complete and not materially misleading. This requirement for disclosure furthers the federal securities laws' goal of providing investors with the information necessary to make informed investment decisions. Among the information that must be disclosed is information relating to the essential managerial efforts that affect the success of the enterprise.
V-ID already does all this in the white paper and is one of the most transparent projects in crypto. Just check the usage Dashboard.

>"SEC Chairman Clayton then stated to Congress in early 2018 that he has never seen a coin or token offering that in his mind was not a “security.”[34] According to the cryptocurrency news site Bitcoin.com, hundreds of cryptocurrency creators “are reportedly being ‘secretly’ targeted” by the SEC, and that these firms and individuals “are now scrambling to clarify whether their token constituted a security, and, if so, whether it was properly registered with or exempted by the SEC.”

Clayton already considers literally every token in existence a security. There's no unique FUD here.

>> No.15109334

>>15109161
get a load of this retard.
>the marketcap can't pass $15MM, it's in the whitepaper bro!

>> No.15109336

>>15109284
just admit that you're a fucking faggot who is either broke or afraid. Probably both
>>15109295
id fold you like a fucking chair. You want to bet as well? >>15108832

>> No.15109357

>>15109298
All of these arguments are "what if" scenarios. Currently, it's a security token.

>Clayton already considers literally every token in existence a security.
I'm sure Clayton has looked at VIDT and Brapper extensively. He looked at 100 coins, now suddenly looked at "literally every" token. You can also post the source for that quote.

>> No.15109369

>>15109336
>just admit that you're a fucking faggot who is either broke or afraid.
I'm not the one chimping out or getting emotional. You seem afraid and rustled. Good.

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R8 lads

>> No.15109382

>>15109357
We've agreed before that the next 6 to 9 months will determine everything. At the moment it's no reason to stop being involved with promising crypto projects

>> No.15109440

>>15109357
Sauce. A very good article. Believe it is a libertarian think tank.

https://cei.org/content/cryptocurrency-and-secs-limitless-power-grab

>> No.15109455

>>15109375
Can I live in your moon mansion?

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>>15109440
>Cum Eating Instructions dot org
No thanks.

It's also an incorrect quote. Clayton said every ICO (initial coin offering) he has seen was a security. Not that every coin was a security. I wonder if you knew this or am I the only one on this board that does their research.

>> No.15109623

>>15109521
Read Clayton's full guidance letter. It is obvious to anyone how he feels. Virtually every token being traded on an exchange pass at the Howie Test in his mind.

it is interesting to know that he's primarily concerned about fraud and consumer protection. The more I read about this the more I am inclined to believe that a middle ground solution will be arrived at.

>> No.15109635

>>15109623
note*

>> No.15109657

>>15108538
*crickets*

>> No.15109763

>>15109455
Yes! Everyone is invited anon!

>> No.15109834

>>15109623
>Read Clayton's full guidance letter. It is obvious to anyone how he feels. Virtually every token being traded on an exchange pass at the Howie Test in his mind.
Conjecture. We can only go with the words he spoke and what is currently available on the SEC government website. Why would Clayton think Brave's BAT was a security token, for example. Clearly has numerous usecases.

>> No.15110075

>>15109834
That may be true. BAT has done a good job doing everything they can to avoid trouble in the future. However, VIDT has taken precautionary measures as well. And if you want to be that pedantic, neither Clayton or the SEC have said VIDT is a security. Everything is conjecture and speculation.

It's bad enough that you are here everyday because you want to "save anon's money." You waste time being as difficult to reason with as possible. But like I said we appreciate it because you bump the threads.

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15110321

dont buy this pajeetcoin
every company nowadays wants to use this "weow new blockchain xd" but you know that you can just USE YOUR FUCKING EYES TO LOOK AT DOCUMENTS LMAO
why would you need this crap if you can hire a pajeet LOOKING AT YOUR FILES AND CHECKING THEM
>the absolute state

>> No.15110412

>>15110321
This, It’s all a PnD, the billion dollar clients, the token burns, the buybacks, it’s all a smoke screen in front of the pump and dump. Amspec and Airbus are actually notorious securities fraudsters that are pumping and dumping this coin to fund their CEO parties on the backs of honest hardworking crypto investors. That dump started with the airbus CEO, who is notorious for his love of underage hookers and cocaine, to fund a yacht party for V-ID on your dime.

The team isn’t even trying to hide it anymore. The CEO took a scan of his ass and balls, validated it on the blockchain, and sent it to all the learn and earners. I verified the file, it’s real.

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>>15110075
>And if you want to be that pedantic, neither Clayton or the SEC have said VIDT is a security. Everything is conjecture and speculation.
Well, SEC outlines what counts as a security in plain English language, readable by all, and buybacks and burns are specifically mentioned, among other things. Clayton's mind however is not easily readable at this point in time. If you have specific direct quotes that strengthen your argument, from reputable sites, feel free to post them for other anons. It's your argument. And I don't care enough to read 50000 words by some boomer who candidly said his personal views and opinions.

>It's bad enough that you are here everyday because you want to "save anon's money." You waste time being as difficult to reason with as possible.
You can't out argue my points, because it's hard to argue against cold facts and someone who knows what they're talking about. The very fact that most of you Telegram trannies couldn't even figure out it was a security token until I sold, or even consider it as a possibility, says it all. I've been saying since the day I sold. Or even bother to calculate how much validations cost for V-ID and consumers and that it was overvalued by the time VIDT was near ATH.

I'm here to get you seething like pic related. Who posted in this thread earlier and got BTFO once again.

>> No.15110477

>>15108820
It's over, it's fucking over. Vidt blown the fuck out!

>> No.15110508

>>15110477
>It's over, it's fucking over.
Finally someone gets it!

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>>15110412
>The CEO took a scan of his ass and balls
saw it too
on top its a literal pedophilering company, look at their logo and compare it to the global pedohile symbols
god you fags "investing" in this shit are the worst, you deserve every penny you will loose on this

>> No.15110568

>>15110425
>If you have specific direct quotes that strengthen your argument
>And I don't care enough to read 50000 words by some boomer

You want reputable sources but you won't read a guidance letter written by the head of the SEC because he's a "boomer."

>The very fact that most of you Telegram trannies couldn't even figure out it was a security token until I sold, or even consider it as a possibility, says it all.

That's not quite true. I brought it up awhile ago with the IDEX KYC news and was accused of FUDing.

I've even called you /our/ raj because I think you've done a good job stirring the pot.

You spend hours and hours in our telegram and our threads trying to "save anon's money." you are incredibly negative and cannot bring yourself to say a single positive thing about anything or anyone at any time. It's a little unnatural no? Perhaps suspicious? Keep bumping all our threads, as I've said. I'm keeping my ear to the ground regarding the SEC and digital assets, but there's no way I'm selling you my bags until I hear some pretty bad news.

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>>15110568
>You want reputable sources but you won't read a guidance letter written by the head of the SEC because he's a "boomer."
I want direct relevant quotes with a source. If you make an argument, it's on you to provide the source to back up your claims. Just like I posted the SEC quotes, the reasoning for the calculations, and the pricing structure.

>That's not quite true. I brought it up awhile ago with the IDEX KYC news and was accused of FUDing.
Except I was the anon that warned you all on /biz/ that it's a security and IDEX will have KYC requirement BEFORE it was announced. I said it will happen within three months. I posted it multiple times the day after I sold. If you were around, I'm sure you've seen pic related.

>You spend hours and hours in our telegram and our threads trying to "save anon's money." you are incredibly negative and cannot bring yourself to say a single positive thing about anything or anyone at any time.
How I spend my time has no bearing on the facts presented. And there you go again with your black and white thinking and perceived telepathy, reading people's minds (which are a sign of schizophrenia, like I said yesterday. Should get yourself checked). I have plenty of good and kind things to say about people in my life and other projects in the world. Here's one for you: V-ID is a great project! Said it multiple times. But VIDT is overvalued and a security. Does that mean V-ID and the people working there are terrible? No. It does not.

>> No.15110739

>>15109375
Sell RSR buy more VIDT

>> No.15110791

>>15110663
Time will tell. I've got a 25k stack I spent a few grand on. I make that money in a week sometimes wage slaving. It's nothing to me. I'm already on to the next project. You aren't going to get me to panic sell. If I do it had nothing to do with your """arguments.""''

See you in the next thread Raj.

>> No.15110882

>>15110791
>I've got a 25k stack I spent a few grand on. I make that money in a week sometimes wage slaving. It's nothing to me. I'm already on to the next project.
Why only a few thousand? Why not go all-in? Doesn't sound like you believe in the project that much and your mind is already on possibility of selling and losing your money.

>You aren't going to get me to panic sell. If I do it had nothing to do with your """arguments.""''
I've been "fudding" since the top. I did say buy more under 0.0008ETH and then sell the next artificial pump. You had plenty of time to sell. There's no "panic sell" intention from my end.

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>>15107792

>> No.15111126

>>15110882
>Why only a few thousand? Why not go all-in? Doesn't sound like you believe in the project that much and your mind is already on possibility of selling and losing your money.

This is the type of uneccessarily negative, disingenuous, pedantry I'm talking about.

There are lots of reasons not to go all in on an alt. BTC dominance, uncertain regulatory environment, diversification, potentially more lucrative investments, etc. etc. etc. etc.

You've accused me of being a schizo, black and white, a wannabe telepath, and so on. All of those characteristics of manifest in that post alone.

>I've been "fudding" since the top. I did say buy more under 0.0008ETH and then sell the next artificial pump. You had plenty of time to sell. There's no "panic sell" intention from my end.

I would have swung when it hit .30 on the heels of the Dex listing but I was busy with IRL stuff. I think there's still opportunities to swing, even though I'm long on the project. Worst case scenario there's no way I'm losing money. You can't have my bags.

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>>15110882

Just look at the market history, there is literally 100 buys for every sell.

https://idex.market/eth/vidt

>> No.15111181

>>15107792
I judge projects by their logo. Its literally never wrong. This one is shit.

>> No.15111280

>>15111181
Yeah I judge based on looks as well, and you look like a gay nigger

>> No.15111290

>>15111280
Stay mad. Stay poor.

>> No.15111335

>>15111290
Is that your motto you live by?

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Remember anons, fud is the biggest buy signal you're ever going to see on biz.

Raj wants you to sell. I wonder why?

>> No.15111501

The only red flags are the cringy events (post a meme to get 10% vid-t) and all the posts on /biz/. Nobody is going invest in a coin to support a bunch of neets.

>> No.15111519

>>15111181
Me too. A logo tells you how much they care about the details and whether they have the money to pay for solid branding. The logo is nice, but it does look like the pedophile logo. No one on their team had the foresight to look into it or do market research. Probably spent as much time making sure it wasn’t a security in the US as well. I may or may not be ironic.

>> No.15111718

>>15110412
copypasta

>> No.15112925

>>15111501

Neets? IBM, Airbus are Neets righty.

>> No.15112954

>>15108820

What a simpleton you are.

SEC is corrupt as fuck and a tool if the elites. Guess what????

VIDT was created by the elites....you really think that logo design us a coincidence.

It will not be a security.....mark my words brainlet.

>> No.15113094
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15113094

>>15112954
bullish

>> No.15113118

>>15111519

maybe they did it on purpose?

>> No.15114133

Nice -10% bagholders. Only a small taste of what's soon to come.

The paranoid schizos in the Telegram also seem to be losing their minds. They think anyone who is fudding has to be me, kek. Trust no one!

>> No.15114317

>>15114133
>muh SOON
Pajeet desperately fudding. You can still buy in Rajesh, plenty of profits to be made

>> No.15114329

>>15114317
>You can still buy in Rajesh, plenty of profits to be made
I wish. Money is not my enemy. I will even get in on scams if they're profitable. This one isn't it. Not going to have my money stagnating for months.

>> No.15114385

>>15111471
cause he sold already and doesn't want this to pump and confirm that he made the wrong choice. fud isnt' always bullish anon. people fud coins they no longer hold cause they don't want it to ever go back over their sell price....cause biz is dumb

>> No.15114456

>>15114385
when the fud is this desperate and baseless, it's bullish as fuck. Not selling. You pajeets will have better luck fudding from the next ATH

>> No.15114782

>>15114456
>Official SEC website declaring it a security token
>Baseless FUD
Pick one and only one.

>> No.15114889

>>15114782
Baseless fud. The SEC hasn't declared shit on VIDT you curry nigger.

>> No.15114960

>>15114889
VIDT is a security token and will not be available on Coinbase, Binance, and soon IDEX.

>Framework for “Investment Contract” Analysis of Digital Assets
https://www.sec.gov/corpfin/framework-investment-contract-analysis-digital-assets
>The inquiry into whether a purchaser is relying on the efforts of others focuses on two key issues:
>Does the purchaser reasonably expect to rely on the efforts of an AP?
In this case, AP means "Active Participant" or V-ID.

>An AP creates or supports a market for,[17] or the price of, the digital asset. This can include, for example, an AP that: (1) controls the creation and issuance of the digital asset; or (2) takes other actions to support a market price of the digital asset, such as by limiting supply or ensuring scarcity, through, for example, buybacks, "burning," or other activities.
Buybacks and burning.

>The term "security" includes an "investment contract," as well as other instruments such as stocks, bonds, and transferable shares. A digital asset should be analyzed to determine whether it has the characteristics of any product that meets the definition of "security" under the federal securities laws.

>> No.15114995

>>15114960
>muh copypaste fud
ctrl+f VIDT

nothing.

>> No.15115102

Reminder that Unibright is down 90% from ATH and is worthless.

>> No.15115111

>>15114995
I knew you would bite on "declared" (as if SEC even knows about VIDT lmao) and wanted an excuse to post the pasta again and bump the thread. Thank you for your service.

>> No.15115134

>>15115102
>Reminder that Unibright is down 90% from ATH and is worthless.
Finally someone who gets it. Unibright has major clients and partners as well. Excellent branding. Good team. But MUH PRICE

>> No.15115173

>>15115134
It's curry tier.

>> No.15115279

no one knows if VIDT is going to succeed long term, i don't think most holders here care. it just seems like a safe short-term position right now as they begin to be listed on more and more exchanges.

>> No.15115306

>>15115111
>spinning words the entire thread
>assmad about somebody throwing it back
give it up Rajesh, nobody cares about your narrative

>> No.15115340

>>15115306
Nobody cares about VIDT either, other me and you bagholders. Look at the price action!

>> No.15115681

All this fud is bullish as fuck, even though it's just 2 dudes on a VPN. Hopefully this will drop below $0.20. So I can load up before vidt takes off.

>> No.15115723

>>15115681
>All this fud is bullish as fuck, even though it's just 2 dudes on a VPN. Hopefully this will drop below $0.20. So I can load up before vidt takes off.
4chan bans majority of VPN services and you would only be able to read, but unable to post. You don't know anything about VIDT or the website you're posting on. Nice work, pajeet.

So for everyone else reading: Always do the opposite of what /biz/ as a majority says.

>> No.15115855

>>15115723
Ok so, get into unibright right? How much do I need to make it?

Also what kind of studded dildo should i get?

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>>15115855
One Unibright will be worth $100,000 in two weeks. You've been warned. And pic related.