Work til you die - or Immortality

[Anonymous No.15097330]

>he doesn’t invest in life extension technology
>he doesn’t donate crypto to life extension foundation
Vitalik Buterin donated $2.4 Million worth of ETH to the SENS Research Foundation and Aubrey de Grey

Zoomers and boomers are in the other thread crying about how they spend their whole life chasing money, just to die when they finally get a large amount of money. My question to you is “Why Die?” It’s past the Year 2000 anon. The technology is here to make you immortal, and people are literally working on it as you read this message. Why would you cuck yourself out of eternal life by not donating to the cause or at least investing in the companies performing this work so you can make PHAT fucking gains from Immortality Tech?

[Anonymous No.15097350]

>>15097330
This is Aubrey de Grey, the figurehead of SENS Researchers Foundation and radical life extension efforts.
>tell me Anon, are you ready for death?
>or will you CHOOSE life?

[Anonymous No.15097431]

>>15097330
Based OP. Who here is going to be donating some of their Linkie gains to SENS research? I know I will.

I wish I could invest in them even. Honestly aging cures and transhumanism tech (like out of cyberpunk) has got me so fucking excited for the future. I can't wait for bionic limbs and for 200+ years of life to be the norm.

Also redpill me on Cryonics anon and vitrification anon.

[Anonymous No.15097434]

>>15097330
>>15097350
ive been reading about the life extension movement and it honestly intrigues the fuck out of me
it has been picking up steam the last couple years as people begin to realize their “anxiety and depression” exists because they can literally die at any time and they feel like they are wasting their life waging away for pennies
with life extension the smartest humans can stick around forever solving problems (scientific, social, and economic) and you can basically bathe yourself in eternal ecstasy and massive superintelligent thoughts when tech like Neuralink comes out

[Anonymous No.15097488]

>>15097434
Imagine being alive 1000 years from now and being some sort of cyborg vampire, who sleeps for decades at a time in crysleep, only to wake up to a new culture, new tech and even more gains from your 1k year old investments every time and then use your intelligent mind to solve more problems for another 100 years before you decide to retire to sleep another decade or two.

[Anonymous No.15097502]

>>15097431
In my honest opinion robotic/transhuman life extension tech comes first, and then the cyborgs will use their superior brain machine interfaces to invent immortal biology tech. Biology has a lot of moving parts so i think it’s easier to just replace your organs as they fail with “simpler” mechanical parts that we have blueprints for

As for cryonics, I heard Alcor Cryonics recently funded research where they use helium as a vitrification agent, basically inflating your cells and keeping them non damaged. Helium is a noble gas and can get extremely cold so you stay preserved with almost zero cell damage. That’s how I understand it to work anyways

>>15097434
Neuralink I think is the first step towards human super intelligence. There’s no way around it - you gotta hook your brain up to a computer if you want to compete with the AIs

[Anonymous No.15097515]

>>15097330
Technology is a false god. Don't turn away from the Lord, anon.

[Anonymous No.15097534]

>>15097515
How are tech and religion mutually exclusive?

[Anonymous No.15097552]

>>15097502
>you stay preserved with almost zero cell damage.
So wait, you can be revived, 100 years or so down the line, and your still alive? Do you just voluntarily go into crysleep at some point in life when you think you might be nearing death, and you essentially are frozen, at a very low level of life, unconscious, but still revivable?

Has anyone healthy even been put into cryosleep for a month or so and been woken up fine? Or am I getting this completely wrong?

>>15097515
Fuck outta this thread faggot.

[Anonymous No.15097578]

>>15097330
you know what that is actually pretty based ill set aside 1k links to donate, I would do more but I only have a 10k stack

[Anonymous No.15097606]

>>15097330
Based
Zoomers will be the ones to get the bag and fix the world fgt boomers left and change it for the better

We must holocaust everyone over 40

[Anonymous No.15097647]

>>15097552
Legally, they aren’t allowed to kill you when you are close to death. They have to wait by your bedside as you die and immediately after the doctor pronounces you dead, the legal rights to your body go to Alice and they quickly transfer you to ice.
They bring you to the Alice facility where they drain your blood while pumping you full of vitrification agent, either a liquid or perhaps the new helium method.

At present, hundreds of people have been cryptically frozen. But none have been revived because they haven’t even tried yet - they know the tech is not quite ready to even try and they want to be 100% sure they get it right. You entrusted your life in their hands basically. You wouldn’t want them to try an experimental revival method on your body, right? So it makes sense

Theoretically. The longer you wait to die the better off you are because the preservation methods get better over time.

It’s costs about $80k for your head or $140k for your whole body which seems like a lot, but if you can even afford that by the end of your life there exists life insurance you can buy for a couple bucks a month that will pay for cryonic preservation

>>15097578
10% is more than kind of you Anon. It’s investing in yourself, the ultimate market crash is your life crashing into the grave

[Anonymous No.15097662]

>>15097647
*Alcor, not Alice

[Anonymous No.15097663]

God I wish I could invest in companies working on life-extension
I know Carmat is working on artificial organs and Alphabet is working on transhumanism though

[Anonymous No.15097711]

>>15097330
>being a long lived human instead of an immortal robogod
Pleb tier

[Anonymous No.15097764]

>>15097330
It's degenerate and against God to try to live forever.

[Anonymous No.15097771]

>>15097647
I wish they could do a test on some deathrow inmate or something. This is literally some of the most important research of all time, and we can't even do tests?

Why not start up a branch in Saudi Arabia, and next time someone is due to be beheaded, instead freeze him and drain his blood while still alive. Keep him frozen for a month, then unfreeze and see if they can wake him. If he's dead oh well, learn from mistakes. If he's alive, woohoo great success now let the state behead him.

Regardless, this tech sounds fucking amazing and I am going to do this for sure if life extention tech isn't already out by the time I am an old man.

Now the primary fear is having a violent death before you you reach an advanced age. What if you have a car crash and die? Can they still freeze you and have a hope to revive you when the tech is there?

[Anonymous No.15097781]

yes opie we'd all very much like to invest in life-extension technology but you haven't named a single publicly-traded company that you can buy shares in so that we may profit off of this trend

[Anonymous No.15097819]

>>15097781
IIRC Aubrey said he wanted to stop relyong on donations and allow investments soon as they were able too do something that warranted it. I remember a thread like 2 months ago about a similar subject, and SENS had like several startup companies working on different projects. I suspect they will be opened up for public investment sometime in the future. I know I will be buying in.

[Anonymous No.15098058]

>>15097781
https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2016/02/the-sens-rejuvenation-biotechnology-companies/

Here's a list. They are all companies spun off of the SENS Research Foundation. They were spun off because donations are hard to get - investment money? Not so hard :)

>Gensight
>Human Rejuvenation Technologies
>Ichor Therapeutics
>Oisin Biotechnologies
>Pentraxin Therapeutics
>Unity Biotechnology

I know a few are public traded. Unity Biotechnology for example has a UBX ticker.

>>15097771
They still do experiments, just on animals. A rabbit was successfully revived after cryonic preservation
https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/19877/20160211/cryogenics-entire-rabbit-brain-successfully-frozen-revived-first-time.htm

You are correct about Aubrey. Donations do not get a lot of money, especially in this field. But potential profits have RAKED in investor money - you can guess why, it's big stuff.

>>15097711
Read my posts, Robogods most likely come before immortal biological humans

[Anonymous No.15098201]

>>15098058
>A rabbit was successfully revived after cryonic preservation
Fucking neat, and this was in 2016 too. Probably have come a way since then as well.

Also thanks for listing the spin off companies. I will invest in them for sure once Link staking becomes a thing. I will sell some of the node profits and invest in all SENS spin offs.

Do you know of any companies working on cybernetics and cyborg tech though in the meantime? Honestly I think the 3 best ones could be replacement bionic eyes (honestly if you went blind, life wouldn't be worth living, so much of the modern world relies on you having sight) and bionic limbs, like robot arms and legs, and spinal injury repair tech.

[Anonymous No.15098245]

>>15098058
Nah, robogod mode renders meatbags obsolete unless you want to make a new race somewhere to worship you. The only point of life extension is to hang in there until full transhumanist apotheosis is possible.

[Anonymous No.15098290]

>>15097330
I learnt about SENS last year and even though I plan to become wealthy and donate money to them, the societal changes worry me. It's not even overpopulation but like, 200 yr old ppl will probably have more advantages over 20 yrs old ppl which means one generation would probably dominate newer generations. Imagine if boomers right now lived forever. The fact that they will start dying within next decade is what makes me more hopeful about the future

[Anonymous No.15098366]

>>15098290
The boomers absolutely have to fucking go, and I think they will. Unfortunately there will probably be roadblocks and delays that could last decades before this becomes a feasable reality. Though I could be completely wrong.

I think Millennial and Zoomies will become global hegemons for the next millennium. Maybe a few Gen X'ers will make it too. Or maybe the tech will be too expensive and less than 100k people are frozen from anyone currently alive right now anyways, and we end up a tiny minority of super old people in the future.

Imagine waking up in 2250 and knowing that entire generations were born and died between the 5 minutes from when you were frozen on your deathbed and you wake up now in some weird cyberpunk hospital room. How the fuck does one preserve wealth for such a long period though? With timeperiods of that length, it's actually a real issue that governments could fail, so even Treasury Bonds could go belly up and you'd have no warning because you'd be a corpsicle. Will businesses pop up to manage the portfolio's of corpsicles int he future? With trillions of dollars of "dead peoples" money being managed by hedge fund managers for hundreds of years before they wake up?

[Anonymous No.15098386]

Stupid atheists who are to cowardly to face their own mortality.

[Anonymous No.15098391]

>>15097350
He looks aged.

[Anonymous No.15098416]

>>15097330
Anybody who falls for this life extension meme is unironically retarded

[Anonymous No.15098445]

>>15097330
kys nigger

[Anonymous No.15098450]

I'm so happy that our generations will live very old and old boomers will die just before significant breakthroughs happen because they happened to be born slightly too early to benefit

[Anonymous No.15098453]

>>15098290
>boomers living forever

What a fucking nightmare, fucking hell. Imagine boomers enabled by our technolord billionaires existing in perpetuity as a rentier capital class extracting wealth from every succesive generation forever and ever.

Makes a man want to burn it all down.

[Anonymous No.15098459]

>>15098386
The point of our mortal existence is to surpass beings of pure spirit, including the gods themselves.

[Anonymous No.15098462]

>>15098386
>>15098416
>>15098445
Leave.

>>15098450
Don't gloat too much. I fear it happening to us. We don't know how long it will take for this tech to mature. What if only the youngest of Zoomies make it?

[Anonymous No.15098469]

>>15098450
>implying the West collapsing is positive for technology

[Anonymous No.15098476]

Dasatinib + Quercetin

https://www.lifespan.io/scripps-research-institute/

[Anonymous No.15098492]

ATTENTION PLEASE NIGGERS
/x/ here
Immortality is already achievable to everyone
Only speak the truth and nothing but the truth
Eat the most pure flesh and organ meat you can and nothing else
Have as many children as you can but only within the same YDNA haplogroup as yourself
Watch the amount of people who deny what I say and ask yourself why they react that way, unless I was directly counteracting their conditioning?

[Anonymous No.15098512]

>>15098462
longevity escape velocity; just stay healthy, eat well, don't smoke, sleep, don't take stupid risks like going in africa countries

[Anonymous No.15098526]

>>15097515
>tfw electrobrain bugmen are jumping at the chance to sign their lives away at the chance of extending their material existence by a few years
>"Satan? Never heard of him. One contract for eternal life in exchange for my livelihood, please"

[Anonymous No.15098582]

>>15098526
Why are you on /biz/? Fuck off back to /pol/ please.

Can't wait for 2050 when your religion is extinct.

[Anonymous No.15098761]

>>15098526
lmao imagine being this pants-shitting scared of some kike demons

[Anonymous No.15099017]

I remember reading a cyberpunk graphics novel years ago where cryogenics is perfected but everyone hates people who are awoken in the future. They have to have everything constantly explained to them and aren't really suited for the culture and society of the future, inevitably ending up homeless or as welfare leeches. Imagine if we were contractually obligated to bring tens of thousands of cavemen into the modern world. Sure the first few may be an interesting novelty but then...

Plus, by the time they were able to restore them, culture and moral values had shifted so far that life basically became a very bad incomprehensible acid trip for them.

[Anonymous No.15099064]

>>15099017
If it's 140k to get frozen, you probably are already financially well off. That's why I asked about asset management while you are frozen. Does the company run a hedge fund managing the rest of your assets in the meantime so you don't wake up in abject poverty because 1MM is now worth a few cents?

I am predicting that asset management for the cryogenically frozen becomes a thing in the future.

[Anonymous No.15099120]

>>15097330
Absolutely based and deGreypilled

This is THE reason I am in crypto
Imagine the fucking vidya we are gonna be playing in 300 years holy fuck

[Anonymous No.15099160]

>>15097552
You die and hope they revive you down the line. I am getting it for my entire family and close friends when I make it

[Anonymous No.15099184]

>>15099120
>Imagine the VIDEO GAMES dude

[Anonymous No.15099207]

>>15097771
>Now the primary fear is having a violent death before you you reach an advanced age. What if you have a car crash and die? Can they still freeze you and have a hope to revive you when the tech is there?
That’s my worry too. Another reason why I am leaving burgerland and moving to a walkable European city with gun bans. Not worth the risk.

[Anonymous No.15099209]

Christ died so we don't have to.

Anyway even the greatest "immortality" tech won't help when a car runs you over or something.

[Anonymous No.15099216]

>>15099120
>wake up
>get your Gaystation 5000 console
>first game you play is some sci-fi futuristic game where you play as an android frontiersman in an open world solar system
>robo doctor walks in the room for your medical check ups to see if you are defrosting well
>he see's the screen
>"Ah playing historical simulators are we, I remember my grandrobot telling me about his solar exploration activities back when I was still going through my bugtesting"

It would be strange to miss out on so much. You'd have to do a lot of reading to just catch up on what the fuck happened while you were asleep.

[Anonymous No.15099221]

>>15099207
>moving to a walkable European city with gun bans.
Or when a truck of peace mows you down.

[Anonymous No.15099234]

>>15098245
What is your timeline. I am 34 and think I will be in my 23 year old body by the time I’m in my 70s. Aubrey says we are 18 years away from robust rejuvenation.

[Anonymous No.15099254]

yeah mm fuck god

[Anonymous No.15099265]

>>15098366
Make sure to take some friends and family with you, i wouldn’t want to wake up into that world alone

[Anonymous No.15099283]

>>15099234
God the future sounds so fucking bullish. I wont even be 50 by that time. I literally may never even have to have a 50 year old body. I will hit around 40/45, and then go back to having an 18 year old body.

Goddamn.

>>15099207
>>15099221
Yeah this is beginning to worry me too. Though I ironically support gun rights. I am already in a no guns nation. The more gains I get from Link, the more cautious and risk averse I feel myself becoming in regards to other aspects of my life though.

[Anonymous No.15099331]

>>15099160
>>15099265
Yeah if I can afford it. Sure wouldn't want to wake up knowing all your friends and family, kids and grandkids are all dead already.

Fuck imagine meeting your great, great, great, great, great grandkids.

[Anonymous No.15099344]

>>15099216
You’d learn it all in seconds with some sort of implant, you’ll be smart beyond what we can even comprehend right now, plus no anxiety or depression, fucking based

>>15099283
I’m excited to revert from old to young, imagine being 70 and frail and then a week later you are dunking a basketball again

One thing we have to avoid is experimental unproven shit over the next 20 years because we will have the money to get it. I’d rather be in my mid fifties and relatively healthy than to get fucking cancer from some experimental shit in my early forties

[Anonymous No.15099420]

>>15099344
>imagine being 70 and frail and then a week later you are dunking a basketball again
Yeah that other anon is totally right. We're gonna be dabbing on zoomies and whoever comes after. Someone with the brain, life experience and knowledge of a 70 year old, but with a young body, young organs and a young mind that thinks quickly again, will absolutely outfucking compete actual young people kek.

Imagine cucking a bunch of kid and smashing prime pussy in highschool again kek. We're all gonna be fucking uberchads.

And yeah, it's obviously safer to wait as long as possible, until you actually need this shit. Still, it's gonna be so exciting watching it happen. All the brain related custom drugs that will get made will be fantastic too. I wonder if it's possible for them to make a drug that gives you the effect of 8 hours sleep in the space of a few minutes, fully restored with just a nap. You'd have so much more time to do things.

[Anonymous No.15099503]

>>15097330
I don’t want to cryogenically preserve my body because I fear in the future when kikes have assumed total control of this earth and are bionic supermen, they’ll just wake me up just to torture one of the last white people for shits and giggles.

They are known to do this to children and also throughout history have been known to buy white slaves from defeated armies just to kill them in the most disgusting ways possible.

[Anonymous No.15099525]

>>15099503
Okay /pol/, thanks for trying to ruin the thread with your delusions, please fuck off.

The future is BRIGHT.

[Anonymous No.15099549]

>>15099525
Lol. Cope harder retard. Future is only bright if you are a kike. If you are a white person then shits going to keep on getting worse.

[Anonymous No.15099638]

Look what (((they))) did to all of you. It is sad to see how materialistic you people are.

[Anonymous No.15099657]

>>15099525
Oy vey.

[Anonymous No.15099686]

>>15099549
Go away you blackpilled perma depressed retard no one cares.

>>15099638
Why is this thread attracting so many butthurt anti progress fags?

>>15099657
Jesus christ, what the fuck do Jews have to do with anything? How am I a Jew for saying the future is looking good? Look at this fucking tech retard and say life isn't going to be great as a cyborg living to age 300+.

Imagine living in a giant house with 10+ generations of the same family all knowing each other. The fucking possibilities man.

[Anonymous No.15099714]

>>15099344
>You’d learn it all in seconds with some sort of implant

Yeah maybe the concrete knowledge but the moral values of the future will be so different. You think we're degenerate now but you haven't seen anything yet.

In the future everyone is bisexual by default, it's just a question of how much (for most people it will be a lot). You will be expected to offer male guests a complimentary handjob or else risk seeming like an asshole.

[Anonymous No.15099719]

>>15097330
imagine being an incel and not able to die

[Anonymous No.15099764]

>>15099714
If I'm rich I can afford to be an asshole. And current social media culture does not reflect reality. Not every second person is actually a tranny.

Culture will change sure, but it wont mean that it's "degenerate" it will just be different from how it was when you were growing up.

[Anonymous No.15099765]

>>15099686
>Jesus christ, what the fuck do Jews have to do with anything? How am I a Jew for saying the future is looking good? Look at this fucking tech retard and say life isn't going to be great as a cyborg living to age 300+.

>Imagine living in a giant house with 10+ generations of the same family all knowing each other. The fucking possibilities man.

That would be great but it’ll never happen for us anyways, everything on this Earth is only done to advance world Jewry and they don’t want anything that’s good for us, only themselves. Sorry bro this is the truth.

[Anonymous No.15099783]

>>15099765
No it's cope because you're a loser in real life.

Why the fuck is this thread attracting so many blackpilled retards?

[Anonymous No.15099790]

>>15097488
based and cyborg vampirepilled

[Anonymous No.15099835]

>>15099764
People can hardly go 50 years of gradual cultural change before becoming jaded and yearning for the "good old days." Imagine 100-200 years in an instant

[Anonymous No.15099862]

>>15099686
>anti-progress
Not being able to cope with your mortality is not a sign of a open mind or a progressive, it merely means you have not learned to be an adult. Literally. You - and many ITT - create those fantasies in your head because you were literally not taught to tell apart what is your imagination and what is reality, or how to deal with your own mortality.

Even if it was possible, you know what would happen? Only a select (((few))) will have access to this technology. The same people in power for a thousand years. Wealth concentrating further on their hands. Literally the death of progress.

[Anonymous No.15099865]

>>15099835
Only NPC retards and slave morality cucks care.

Imagine wasting your time on /pol/ caring about culture kek.

[Anonymous No.15099868]

>>15099657
>explosions

[Anonymous No.15099880]

>>15099234
Not sure. The first step is direct neural interfaces and that's just starting to be experimented with. I think it's possible we'll have the tech for low enough latency to seamlessly augment your mind with additional synthetic computation capacity within a couple decades, but beyond that is hard to say. Depending on how things unfold the main utility of biological life extension may just be to keep the brain alive longer while the mind is migrating to the new hardware over the course of decades to centuries.

[Anonymous No.15099904]

>>15099862
Complete delusion. Imagine thinking a thread about some advances in life extension tech, and some people reacting positively and speculating on it is evidence of people not seeing imagination from reality and not being able to cope with it.

I can't wait to leave this board once Link takes off, the majority of intelligent minds left after 2017. /pol/ refugees have since destroyed board culture and dumbed it down.

[Anonymous No.15099949]

>>15099904
You have not addressed anything I said. It was expected as you have formed this mindset where you can naively believe that even if immortality was possible, it would happen in your lifespan.

LINK could moon to $100k/token and you would still be poor. Good luck with your remaining ~80 years of life.

[Anonymous No.15099980]

You already are in a fully virtualized holographc dream environment, there is not really a point to research immortality technology AGAIN.

[Anonymous No.15099996]

>>15099949
Because you have no arguments, just blackpilled delusion. Please read OP and the thread, there is evidence that life extension tech is within our grasp.

[Anonymous No.15100013]

>>15099880
Hmm seems to be a bit of a divergence between cyborg mode (neural link) and just reversing your normal body to it’s young self (SENS)

[Anonymous No.15100015]

>>15099865
You're not immune to this. You will not be prepared for the decadence of the future, and you will hate everything and everyone will hate you.

[Anonymous No.15100035]

>>15099980
I also unironically think this. Simulation theory is hard to argue against.

[Anonymous No.15100046]

>>15100015
I have a different perspective than you, I am excited to see what comes in the future, both in culture and tech wise. I don't really give a fuck what others do. I am not mad at their decisions. Let them be degenerate if they wish to be.

[Anonymous No.15100096]

>>15100013
Well I basically want to be a matrioshka brain. I imagine longevity will become pretty trivial somewhat before that.

[Anonymous No.15100226]

>>15100046
Don't think I'm just some conservative /pol/ guy either, I read sci-fi every day. I just think you're overestimating your ability to adapt. The bottom line is that your brain, your perspective, everything that makes you you, that you are trying to preserve, is wholly a product of 21st ideals to its core. Have you ever heard the joke about the two fish that pass each other and one asks the other "how's the water" to which the other responds "what's water?" Well yeah, if you woke up 200 years from now you'd figure out what water was.

[Anonymous No.15100391]

>>15100226
You underestimate how malleable the human mind can be.

[Anonymous No.15101394]

>>15098492
hey fren care to point me in the right way? any link? i feel you are correct

[Anonymous No.15101621]

>>15098290

So just be kind to the younger races and generations. Don't be an eldar.

[Anonymous No.15101718]

>>15097515
>>15098526
enjoy living in fear of shit that doesnt exist and passing up technological immortality in exchange for "dying with dignity" and rotting in a coffin after wageslaving your whole life and acting like a good little boy who never does bad things like eat meat on fridays

[Anonymous No.15101724]

>>15099331
Your great great great granddaughter is doing fine doing fine.

[Anonymous No.15101737]

>>15099120
all cryoshit is overlooking the real prize of transhumanism. creating an AI that goes singularity will happen if we don't die in the next ~100 years. if it isnt shit you cant upload to that shit and live forever in paradise

[Anonymous No.15101749]

>>15099331
>Fuck imagine meeting your great, great, great, great, great grandkids.
Imagine if they were niggers.

[Anonymous No.15101760]

>>15101737
Please this. Then make biomachine that transcends metal and meat bags. Combining the best of both. Think the sexy legs of the geckos in mgs4. Sweet sweet synth flesh.

[Anonymous No.15101775]

>>15101737
*if it isnt shit you can upload to that. honestly a big worry for me is that the AI is gonna have gay rules in simulated reality like not being able to say "nigger", which is a pretty tame example.

[Anonymous No.15101800]

>>15101724
>is pretty fine

[Anonymous No.15101934]

>>15101718
Imagine being this concerned with the finite and vain instead of accepting the idea of the infinite. You can like tech and shit but that stuff is still passing and momentary.

[Anonymous No.15101936]

>>15101775
That's why you have to be the superintelligence. AI would be a disaster. Cyborg superintelligence is the way forward.

[Anonymous No.15101940]

>>15101800
In the YEAR 3 THOSABD NOTUCH HAS CHANGED BUT WE LIVE UNDERWATER.

[Anonymous No.15102644]

>>15098391
That's his meme