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I hear Binance is going to list it and use it for privacy once it jumps on the Cosmos network
Someone shill/FUD me on this

>> No.15093984

>>15093979
there was never any confirmation for binance, noticed how all the shill disappeared?

>> No.15094005

>>15093984
worth dropping a hard eth surely? if it's true, this goes 10x, if not, it probably wont even dump

>> No.15094033

>>15094005
you can, or you can wait for the dump. Usually when there are no news and no volume the price tend to head down. But we all have been wrong from time to time, so up to you.

>> No.15094637

>>15093984
i noticed SENT shills threads were more active during european time

>> No.15094651

>>15093979
It's PAJEET SCAM. DO NOT BUY!

>> No.15094655

>>15093984
Binance will list all cosmos coins for free because it benefits their DEX on cosmos

>> No.15094855

>>15094655
intredasting

>> No.15095008

>>15094855
sentinel will be able to be connected to binance dex and offer mixing services to all people trading there

>> No.15095259
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>> No.15095315

>>15093979
Dead PnD lasted less than a week now it’s just bag holders hoping a bull market takes them up. When it doesn’t and they see everything else mooning they will start to exist for others alts or btc. This is now a game of hot potato. Do you want to be the last holding the potato?

>> No.15095346

>>15095315
sentinel team is continuing development and sentinel usage is growing as we speak, you are just a brainelt that can't come up with better fud then "exit scam"
they literally released their blockchain testnet a week ago and they will release their socks5 protocol in the next couple of weeks

>> No.15095532

>routes all your traffic thru OpenDNS, which means Cisco has all your browsing history indefinitely logged and for sale
>insecure defaults
>using easyrsa defaults to generate a (weak) key pair
>dropping it into the same place without any actual verification, which should in theory mean any node can drop their own keypair there and just MITM all your traffic
>weak authentication algorithm
>unnecessary logging because their pay-per-GB system is just scraping your logs to see how much it transferred (should be able to scam them for free bandwidth that way)
>doesn't use tls-crypt
>doesn't have any concrete iptables rules to prevent nodes not being able to get into your LAN once the connection is established (uses NAT to eth0 for this, so it all depends on how OpenVPN sandboxes its device, in worst case it means anyone can just connect to your PC)

Thats only for the VPN, I have no idea what their mixers and shit are like, maybe those are fine.

>> No.15095549

>>15095532
developers are building a faq page to address all this stuff when its ready they will post it in the official tg

>> No.15095628

>>15095549
Hardly much use when there's people using it right now that are being taken advantage of, innit

>> No.15096556

why is this ERC 20 if its a cosmos chain project?

>> No.15096652

This is just a scammy cosmos tutorial copy and a closed source clone of OpenVPN being used to try to add legitimacy. I mean unless you are completely retarded you will see that all the paid shills evaporated in minutes yesterday. Those fuckers are so annoying we should work to actively destroy this project for trying to scam us with pajeet shillers and a technically fake project.

>> No.15096670

>>15096556
The only cosmos part is a copied tutorial from the cosmos site.

>> No.15096679

>>15094005
>>15094033
it won't dump before it goes way up again. new support was found around 1900, it refuses to go beneath it

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>>15096679
> it refuses to go beneath it
The thing barely pumped with the shill army, unless they extended the contract into next week you fuckers are getting dumped on

>> No.15096718

>>15096652
>>15096670
This is just complete horseshit, they have their own blockchain with custom code up and running and it uses tendermint
Openvpn is just where all vpns build upon

>> No.15096722

SENT FUDers still sound pretty blown out and pathetic desu. Keep trying, but I don't think you're going to be able to buy any lower. Shoulda listened, cucks

>> No.15096735

>>15096722
The problem these anons address is real, you are just a shiller

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>>15093979
Don't buy this, buy VIDT or LINK. I have a 500k stack of this shit and the only reason I'm still holding is because I fucked up during the PnD and bought slightly too close to the top. HOWEVER, the reason I'm doing that is because it has a clear upward trend and support at 1800-1900. So it will make you money, just not enough to make it worthwhile compared to the two alternatives I mentioned at the start of this post. I can't wait to get out of this and get my sweet VIDTies back.

t. bagholder

>> No.15096759

>>15096735
My digits say otherwise dude.

>> No.15096769

>>15095628
Its a testnet its normal that these kind of things happen, before using the dvpn you literally have switch the testnet on.

Cutting hedge tech like this has a bright future, these are all small bumps on the road

>> No.15096800

I'd wait for the mainnet and just run a node and earn my SENT through that.
It's currently still in testing phase. I've tried it out, works great but there are still no uses for SENT yet. It's still just speculation.

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>>15096800
>just wait until it dumps, bro

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>>15096769
>Cutting hedge tech like this has a bright future, these are all small bumps on the road
There is nothing cutting edge about copying a cosmos tutorial and giving away a closed source stolen, probably backdoored OpenVPN copy that leaks DNS all over the place. If you can't see that this is a complete scam with fake VPN software being used to give it legitimacy to really stupid people then you deserve to get rekt.

>> No.15096920

>>15096855
this is just weak fud, they have their own blockchain with top cosmos validators running it and validating it, its not a simple copypaste but something unique thast why their first round of validators was oversubsribed.
just look at the tech yourself
https://explorer.sentinel.co/
open vpn is where all vpns build upon so what you just said about it is plain retarded, cause you are using the stock version of openvpn which is already installed in your system probably.
its interesting that all these fud comments have the same writing style, its probably the same person changing id to get cheap SENTs, but sorry dude uptrend and support have been confirmed there is no sell pressure, you will have to fomo,

either buy now or miss the train

>> No.15096943

>>15095532
Oh look it’s the cisco guy again, stooped reading after the first bullet

>> No.15096958

>>15096920
>this is just weak fud, they have their own blockchain with top cosmos validators running it and validating it
This is what you don't understand. The "blockchain" part of this is a copy of the tutorial code on the CosmosSDK docs. Any javascript level dev with 3 hours could copy and paste this. Nothing is really being validated here, but a lot of your personal information is being leaked.

>> No.15096963

>>15096943
He has been spamming that list in every thread, but he wont get his buy orders filled

>> No.15097000

>>15096963
this is by far the most polarizing coin I’ve seen here in a while. other obvious pnd’s like devery had trannies dump and it’s never been heard from again, no one even knew wtf it was used for. this is technically and fundamentally completely different from that in terms of technology and potential.

>> No.15097011

>>15096958
https://explorer.sentinel.co/ to me and to 29 top cosmos validators (which are also coders) looks like its fine.
we are talking about validators like figment and forbole which control a significant portion of the cosmos voting power, i doubt that people that secure millions in atoms don't do their due diligence, i would trust them over a random id on /biz any time

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also sentinel team received 500k atoms in delegation from cosmos team, thats more then 1/3 of what they raised in ico, the trust that has been put in theis delegation is big.

sentinel is higly regarded in cosmos ecosystem

>> No.15097056

>>15097011
> looks like its fin
Yes, but you are clearly fucking retarded and don't understand any of this shit. There is no data being voted on that relates to the trojaned VPN client they are tricking you idiots into running.

>> No.15097086

>>15097056
To me it looks like you are defending an unsustainable position and just moving the goal post

>> No.15097114

>>15097056
Sentinel testnet just launched the other week, this phase is only about the blockchain itself, the application logic will be implemented in the blockchain at a later stage.

keep calm anon development takes time.
also as i said above but you clearly didn't listen the openvpn software is stock so there can't be any trojan hidden in the stock version of openvpn

>> No.15097148

>>15097056
You are just plain retarded what you just said has 0 technical ground, you just put together a bunch of words to sound like you know your shit

>> No.15097154

>>15097086
Fuck it's so hard to read your shitty english, they should hire burgers. Let me clarify. The blockchain validates nothing related to SENT. The token has NO PURPOSE, the VPN is a CLOSED SOURCE CLONE and also in violation of the GPL so essentially trojaned and illegal. The default setting leak personal info all over the net because the "Devs" have no experience with encryption tools, this is usually what happens when hobby devs try to fork a project out of their depth. The only thing "unsustainable" is the scam and the accompanying shill campaign.

>> No.15097191

>>15096769
>intentionally choosing to broadcast your users entire history for sale while knowing damn well what you're doing is "normal"
That you're actually arguing this and cans even spell "cutting edge" right tells me you're a pajeet shill. Go away.

>> No.15097205

>>15096855
It's not closed source and that's not what DNS leak means. You're probably a shill trying to delegitimize actual criticism.

>> No.15097223

>>15097154
as i said in my post above which you are too retarded to read, application logic will be implemented after basic functionality has been fully tested, this will be a testnet with multiple phases.
you are too brainlet to even read what i posted
the token is a staking token that will be used to secure the dpos blockchain once main net is launched.
its not closed source just look at the github everything is in plain sight.
it uses a stock version of openvpn so no problem with GPL licensing.

>> No.15097225

>>15097205
Installing this is EXTREMELY UNSAFE. The devs OR ANY NODE OPERATOR can easily middleman the cert and sniff all traffic passing through the VPN connection. They can literally sniff your exchange traffic. What the actual fuck anons, don't fall for this clear malware/exit scam. They will straight up steal your keys and exchange info.

>It's not closed source and that's not what DNS leak means
Nice try faggot. Link to the VPN source code or STFU.

>> No.15097255

>>15097225
https://github.com/sentinel-official/dvpn-node/tree/development/vpn/open_vpn

There's legitimate criticism of this, but you're just autistically sperging and making everyone raising actual concerns look bad. Retard.

>> No.15097272

>>15097225
Please stop with your buzzwords salad

>> No.15097315

>>15097154
>>15097225
jesus this just reeks of desperation anon.

>> No.15097335

The token is useless and will get delisted from all exchanges after main net swap

>> No.15097348

Thats my main concern people will just find themself bagholding worthless crap

>> No.15097361

There is a malicious entity fudding hard to buy cheap. All these “pajeet scam” posts are absolutely ridiculous and it’s obvious they are trying to fud the price down to accumulate more because they have been left in the dust with the recent price action. Sentinel is strongest alt coin right now, support has been found at 38-40 sats and it’s gonna run so hard out of this consolidation. Binance will list soon I think it was insider pump.

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>>15097255
I know that technical terms sound like buzzwords to you cuz you are either shilling a scam for 3 rupees a day or you are a sucker and got scammed. Either way it is clear you have zero knowledge of this subject matter.
>>15097225
Your response is completely irrelevant and here's why.
>https://github.com/sentinel-official/dvpn-node/tree/development/vpn/open_vpn
I don't expect you to understand this, but that is module code copied mostly from the CosmosSDK tutorial. That is not the VPN software AT ALL. It does nothing to prove that the closed source VPN software is safe and not sniffing info. Again, where is the source code to the VPN software you are asking users to run? Any non-retard would never run VPN software binaries released by an anonymous team that is paying shillers. I can't believe people are actually falling for this. And by the way, if you/they trojan anons machines with this VPN software, it won't end well for you.

>> No.15097388

>>15097335
>>15097348
the token swap is not even close yet, and it has been confirmed that for sure beaxy will support main net swap so this is baseless fud.
also there is no way that SENT doesn't get listed on bigger exchanges after last weeks price action.
solid community
solid usecase
non scammy 1.89m$ raise
the projects with this kind of allocation in crypto are very rare, devs have literally took the minimum amount of money needed to give the best upside to investors

>> No.15097395

>>15097361
Pathetic anon, nobody can even show the source to the VPN binaries they are asking people to run. THIS IS ON THE LEVEL OF DOWNLOADING AN .exe file FROM /pol AND RUNNING IT

>> No.15097404

LMFAO!! at the guy trying to push middle man vulnerability narrative when the entire project is centred around disabling man in the middle attacks. You fucking retards. Back to school. Go and learn about networks, encryption, blockchain, P2P resource transfer and validator models. Mongs. Sentinel is a future billion dollar network and you have no idea what you are talking about. It’s probably jobless substratum staff lmao

>> No.15097406

10x your crypto with moon3d. bonus schemes awaits

>> No.15097412

>>15097388
>also there is no way that SENT doesn't get listed on bigger exchanges after last weeks price action.
>shills and wash trades for a week.
muh volume

>> No.15097414

>>15097373
>>15097395
the source code was posted literally couple of post above your, at this point you are just ridicolous

>> No.15097442

>>15097412
people complained about volume when it had 3k volume, they complained about volume at 30k
and at 300k
they will still complain about volume at 3m

>> No.15097473

>>15097404
>LMFAO!! at the guy trying to push middle man vulnerability narrative when the entire project is centred around disabling man in the middle attack
It's no suprising the claims the devs are making are completely false. This is too retarded. An anon team asks you to run binaries with no source available. That is just fucking retard level crazy. It's gonna be fun to watch all of your exchange and wallets get emptied. This is the kind of thing that makes people want to run cold/offline wallets because people can steal your keys right off your machine if you run software like this. DON'T DO IT.

>> No.15097493

>>15097414
Retard. That is not the source to the VPN. It is just a connector module for the Cosmos tutorial. That is not the fork of OpenVPN they are pushing which at this point is almost definitely a trojan. YOU ARE JUST LYING NOW.

>> No.15097519

>>15097493
LOL just look at the code posted then go into open vpn repository compare it and you will see its the same.

at this point you are just hoping that people reading this are to retarded to understand you are bluffing and all your claims can be disproven by just looking at the github

>> No.15097601

>>15097519
>LOL just look at the code posted then go into
open vpn repository compare it and you will see its the same.

Also a complete lie or you don't understand any of this. This is day one shit anon. OpenVPN is written in C retard. The integration module you posted is in Go and is a tutorial example of the Cosmos module SDK. Again, why would anyone download a closed source executable from /biz and not expect to get all their keys and exchange accounts stolen? Seriously, stop lying and asking anons to install trojan software, which is all it could possibly be with an anon team and no source code.

>> No.15097637

How much of this pajeet do i need to buy to have free d-vpn for life?? thats all i care about. im gonna live in an armed mountain fortress with cold storage crypto and silver reserves

>> No.15097650

>>15097373
You're retarded. You can clearly see that it's calling OpenVPN from system. They don't ship their own binary.
>package openvpn
And here you can see they're clearly calling external OVPN dependency:
>cmd := exec.Command("openvpn", "--config", serverConfigFilePath)
Bit I assume you're just a shill that's here to make the actual critics that have issue with the code look bad. Its working, good job.

>> No.15097668

>>15097637
This "dVPN" is almost definitely a trojan anon. If you install it you will probably lose everything. Would you download an .exe file from /biz because that is what you are doing.

>> No.15097694

>>15097404
There is an actual MITM worry in the code right now, because I can't see any key verification. I would like to see what the devs are saying about this, maybe I missed a piece of code, but from what I see they don't actually have a safeguard against dropping my own key there.

I don't have Telegram, so somebody should ask about that.

>> No.15097709

>>15097493
They're not forking OpenVPN.

>> No.15097755

>>15096855
Is leaking dns worse then leaking ram?

>> No.15097876

>>15097694
I sent your message in dm to one of the devs he has not seen my msg yet, if they see the concerns are based on true problems they will fix it in the next release thats why a testnet is needed anyway

>> No.15097998

>>15097876
Did you send it from the long post I compiled?
Cause I'm not saying it's 100% what's happening, but I'm also not seeing any mitigation. It might be somewhere in OVPN code for all I know.
I also need to know how they're addressing LAN sandboxing, because righr now improper config could give anyone connecting to your node a full access to your LAN. I was talking about this with a network manager and neither of us could see any mitigation.

>> No.15098265

>>15097998
I sent the stuff you posted at the start of the thread

>> No.15098570

>>15098265
i also did the same logged all the legitimate concerns and fud into a doc and sent it to the devs, some its bullshit and will make 0 sense to the devs, but the stuff that can actually be fixed they will fix it.

>> No.15098939

>>15098265
>>15098570
I just wanna say that the GPL violation thing is invalid, that came from me when I fucked up looking at the repo. Since they don't ship the software, and the rest is released under Apache, that means they should be GPL compliant. I know people just want to yell that I spread FID, bit all I want is for a privacy service to truly be private, and I am willing to admit when I fuck up. So strike that one out as invalid BS, and call out anyone who continues to yell that.

>> No.15099065

>>15098939
ok i removed it from the docs that i sent

>> No.15099758

>>15097000
This is not polarizing at all you smelly Indian. Everyone here can see that it's a scam. To any anons reading this, wait 2 weeks. You won't see a single post about this piece of shit on the catalog.

>> No.15100066

>>15099758
how is this a scam ?
team is delivering everything promised and bug will be fixed

>> No.15100244

>>15093979
>Empty git = closed source = backdoors
>Leaks IPv6

ABANDON THIS SCAM COIN
>NOW
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY
ABANDON THIS SCAM COIN
>NOW
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY
ABANDON THIS SCAM COIN
>NOW
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY
ABANDON THIS SCAM COIN
>NOW
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY
ABANDON THIS SCAM COIN
>NOW
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY
ABANDON THIS SCAM COIN
>NOW
IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY

>> No.15100275

>>15100244
its not closed source and the github is freely available for all you can check it has been posted multiple times in the thread, your fud is weak

>> No.15100367

>>15100244
Explain

>> No.15100554

>>15100244
I double checked on my desktop app - no DNS leaks. Devs did mention in the telegram that some nodes have not been properly configured and they will be issuing fixes to address it. This is what a test net is all about after all.

All code is open source on the GitHub - not sure what you are talking about.

>> No.15100674

Wow the fud is strong on this coin, it shows many are interested

>> No.15101624

>>15100674
This is the real takeaway from this

>> No.15101648

>>15101624
harmony is also fudded, brapper is also fudded, go buy them