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[Anonymous No.14985304]

you do realize that heaven and hell aren't actual places, but states of mind, right?

[Anonymous No.14985312]

>>14985304
yea. but after death you will go to one

[Anonymous No.14985330]

>>14985312
How do you know?

[Anonymous No.14985343]

>>14985330
its like dreaming

[Anonymous No.14985363]

>>14985312
there is only void after death, proof me wrong

[Anonymous No.14985367]

also there's Purgatory, people always forget the sad grey place

[Anonymous No.14985374]

>>14985363
>void
purgatory for us

[Anonymous No.14985404]

>>14985343
>>14985367

How do you know?

[Anonymous No.14985409]

>>14985404
my feelings told me

[Anonymous No.14985442]

>>14985330
You wont be in an aware energy observer state to perceive time. Don't worry anon an infinite amount of things can happen inbetween before you are reconstituted in an aware energy state.

[Anonymous No.14985453]

>>14985363
no prove you right first

[Anonymous No.14985456]

>>14985304
And you know that... how?

1. Dino tissue found in various dinosaur bones showing dinos aren't that old meaning evolution (which never made sense in the first place) isn't real. For example, there was a dinobone supposedly dated at 195 mil years (technically iirc, the bones themselves are NEVER dated, just the dirt like wtf if that was true). Tissue can't survive for that long so there you go. Seriously, the idea of beneficial mutations leading to new types of creatures just sounds stupid since mutations are literal coding errors in DNA.

2. Over 180 universal constants in the universe with near perfect values. Had they been just a little off, zilch. No life could exist period. Example: speed of light. Had it been a little faster or slower, no carbon would have formed (I have the link bookmarked but don't have the energy to post it here). 100% of life is carbon based.

In other words, obviously a creator designed those constants to have those values. Either that or you believe in stuoid unrealistic coincedences.

Checkmate

[Anonymous No.14985473]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udz8Pk0oRng

[Anonymous No.14985515]

>>14985363
Can't disagree, but also can't support it

[Anonymous No.14985570]

>>14985456
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe

What if a creator created something but nobody else could see how awesome it was? So the creator kept creating multiverses until it made one that was finely tuned, one that had self aware energy states. If you think about a quantum reality with superpositions, what classifies as an observer? Its like an age old saying if a tree falls in the woods does it make a sound? Similar to Shrodinger's cat. The tree is technically in a super position until it is observed. Does an observer have to be self aware? Or is it just something that interacts, how do you then factor in infinite scalability, below plank levek, or the super large, what lies outside of the observable universe? Too many mysteries.

[Anonymous No.14985618]

>>14985363
what even is the benefit of believing that there's only void after death? would you rather believe in something like a heaven/paradise since that is much better compared to nothingness?

[Anonymous No.14985623]

>>14985304
>not redpilled on materialism in 2019
You do realize that states of mind are actual places right?

[Anonymous No.14985653]

>>14985623
elaborate pls

[Anonymous No.14985693]

>>14985618
the benefit is that it's likely the true take on the afterlife, based on what we know thus far. Of course most humans dgaf about truth and prefer what is convenient or what confers a material or psychological advantage. Believing that you'll live forever after death confers a MASSIVE advantage to the average human, it shuts down a ton of fears and insecurities they could fall prey to. So the idea proliferates because it has utility.

[Anonymous No.14985772]

My favorite type of thread on /biz/.
Comfy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14985804]

>>14985312
something something quantum immortality

[Anonymous No.14985830]

>>14985693
i dont know anon I rather believe in a convenient "falsehood", life is already hard as it is why add it with something that could make it much worse.

[Anonymous No.14985866]

>>14985623
Based and Schopenhauerpilled

[Anonymous No.14985961]

>>14985804
Just because you leave your energy behind, as in energy doesn't leave the universe, it doesn't mean your consciousness remains in any way.

[Anonymous No.14986018]

>>14985363
>after death
doesn't make sense, just like saying "outside of extension"

[Anonymous No.14986029]

>>14985961
Some people who had NDE's report feeling like their conciousness was stretching as far as the universe could. Some actually felt so overwhelmed they believed if they kept stretching like a balloon they would explode. They then came back to life and to their human conciousness. Perhaps our brains are like a hub which concentrates the energy that makes our conciousness into a single point. That would explain why our subconscious minds are always going 100 miles per our but we can easily ignore all the chaos as we are distracted by our every day lives.

[Anonymous No.14986454]

>>14985456
Yeah.. this retard doesnt understand that only the beneficial mutations survive. Not every mutation is beneficial and none are planned. Holy fuck how stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.14986480]

>>14985304
You do realize that “place” is contained within “mind” right?

[Anonymous No.14986497]

>>14986454
Learn to read, fucktard. OBVIOUSLY the fucking argument is "natural selection fixates the beneficial mutation while not selecting the bad mutations". Even with that, it STILL sounds retarded as shit. You are arguing with "beneficial coding errors, you go from a single cell to a multi celled organism with a heart, brain, etc.".

Give me numbers. Give me the beneficial mutation rate. How many beneficial mutations were needed to go from a single cell to us?

Answer this or you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.14986526]

>>14986497
You're making my argument for me. Thanks for becoming more intelligent. You realize that the number is astronomical due to the age of the universe.

[Anonymous No.14986545]

>>14986454
his post was clearly b8. evolution deniers are sub 30 IQ and don't know about 4chan.

[Anonymous No.14986554]

All you guys need Jesus

[Anonymous No.14986562]

>>14986497
trillions.

[Anonymous No.14986572]

>>14985304
Nah there's actual hell realms

[Anonymous No.14986591]

>>14985363
Disagree. There are levels. The universe is infinite. Being a human is just a level. If you do well, you pass, if not, re-examination. Many levels, many tests, universe is infinite.

[Anonymous No.14986607]

>>14985304
actually heaven and hell are real, physical locations
>prove it!
biblical archaeology
moabite stone
jebel al lawz
nuweiba crossing
jeremiah's grotto
^google these terms

[Anonymous No.14986608]

>>14985363
Information can't be destroyed.
Too easy.

[Anonymous No.14986648]

>>14985363
only if you kill your self. but you’ll eventually reincarnate after some long contemplation in the infinite unitive consciousness

[Anonymous No.14986652]

>>14985653
Part 1.

>in short, as above so below
It’s a little counterintuitive but the physical world is like an analogous manifestation of events occurring in a higher reality. The 3d world you experience isn’t the real world, it’s like a video game: what you see on the screen is just a comprehensible representation of the code that is running in the background. If you were just watching the code run, you wouldn’t even be able to comprehend that it’s supposed to be a game.

This is a small part of a much larger more comprehensive ancient “science” (the natural sciences are an equally small portion of this science too) Every ancient culture has a “myth” about the gods coming down to bestow a hidden knowledge upon the human race (the Christian Bible contains this story too but Abrahamic religions are contrarian in nature and present the story differently. This will become important later.) Your first hurdle is to come to terms with the fact that this literally happened. From there every form of science sprang up including Gnosticism/mysticism. This ancient spiritual science has taken many forms over the years: Babylonian mysticism, Egyptian mysticism, Kabbalah, Theosophy, new ageism, and even Scientology.

Now I’m a Christian and what I’m going to say will sound controversial, but what these various orthodoxies teach about the “other realm” is basically true. Frequencies, vibrations, energies, synchronicity, spirits. All of it.

[Anonymous No.14986678]

>>14985653
Part 2.

Now, realizing that the “other realm” is the “code” for our manifest universe, every thought and action you take on this plane corresponds to an event in that higher realm. (As above, so below) Your actions as a physical being act as inputs from your brain to your soul (your code so to speak) these behaviors can either raise or lower your “vibration” to use the faggy new age terminology.

So, when the gods brought this knowledge from the other realm, they taught men to use it to achieve their own ends (the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is an allegory for this event) the more that humans abused this knowledge for selfish gain, the lower their souls descended.

How does this relate to heaven and hell in a Western sense? Well, consider that Gnosticism as a means of commanding the “other realm” had proliferated across the earth. The high God (the unknowable God from every other religion) steps in and brings a new, disruptive knowledge to the earth. A law by which men could abide to raise their spiritual “vibration”.

When you die in this “low” vibrational state, you no longer receive input to your soul and therefore cannot raise or lower this state, hence an eternal hell. What the faggot mystics don’t tell you is that “high vibration states” are relative and that dying in this “high vibe” state still means you can’t receive new input and thus still suffer eternally after death (hence higher and lower circles of hell. Imagine living forever with none of your 5 senses. Try to conceive of anything more hellish, I dare you)

[Anonymous No.14986681]

>>14986029
our subconscious is a 6th dimensional alien. have seen it on DMT

things get juicy when you can consciously control your subconscious

[Anonymous No.14986691]

>>14985653
Part 3.

In order to escape this eternal hell state, you MUST be reincarnated. That is why the covenant with Christ is so vitally important. The Most High God intends to establish a world without evil and will only reincarnate souls who agree to the his New Covenant, regardless of vibrational state. Man is incapable of entering a “heaven” state but will be able to exist alongside God one day “which is the Christian concept of heaven.

Thnx for reading my blog post bros.

[Anonymous No.14986694]

>>14985330
Throughout the revelations from God.

[Anonymous No.14986697]

All dogs go to heaven

All 4chan posters go to hell
Only lurkers can be saved!
Repent.

[Anonymous No.14986701]

>>14986591
this is true. orient yourself positively or negatively or keep repeating your painful 3rd dimensional existence