Best european city for /biz/

[Anonymous No.14889295]

Im about to become a father.

What's a good european city with good quality of life, and good networking opportunities. Im mostly interested in software, tech startups.

Being a remote in a small city is also an option I consider. Anyone is doing it at the moment?

[Anonymous No.14889301]

Vienna has highest quality of life for the price

That being said it won’t have the same resources as a London or Paris, but who would want to raise children in those shitholes anyways

[Anonymous No.14889306]

>>14889295
>Europe
>Software/Tech
LOL

[Anonymous No.14889313]

>>14889295

move outside of link headquarters to get the fresh scoops

[Anonymous No.14889316]

>>14889295
Helsinki, Finland

[Anonymous No.14889334]

>>14889295
ZUG

[Anonymous No.14889340]

>>14889306
I live in the Bay Area for a while. Place is depressing as fuck, and I cant see myself raising a child in SF (most childless city I've every seen).

Technology makes it easier to work from anywhere so I might as well live in a nice and civilized country. Crypto companies are even more decentralized, this is the best of both worlds.

[Anonymous No.14889352]

>>14889334
Actually looking into Switzerland, with the LIBRA shit being headquarted in Geneva, I'm sure it will bring some opportunities.

[Anonymous No.14889378]

>>14889340
Zurich is your best bet. Vienna has tons of unemployment & migrants.

[Anonymous No.14889391]

>>14889301
London and Paris are mostly fine ... if you're rich. You need to be richer in London as it's more expensive (but wages are higher, I think).

There's actually a French website where people can rate their own towns/cities, this is the top 10 ranking at present:
1. Aix-les-Bains (8.44/10);
2. Maisons-Lafitte (8.35/10);
3. Vincennes (8.23/10);
4. Saint-Gratien (8.16/10);
5. Le Vésinet (8.13/10);
6. Saint-Chamond (8.13/10);
7. Le Raincy (8.13/10);
8. Sceaux (8.05/10);
9. Levallois-Perret (8.05/10);
10. Enghien-les-Bains (7.99/10).

Source: https://www.ville-ideale.fr/

2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, and 10 are affluent suburbs of Paris, FWIW, while 6 is an affluent suburb of Lyon.

[Anonymous No.14889416]

>>14889295
Dublin. Ireland is a pretty based country. The food there is fresh af too since there’s so much fertile land and barely any people.

[Anonymous No.14889430]

Saint chamond is a suburb of saint etienne and its a shithole like the dept of loire in general, im surprised it made it to the top ten

[Anonymous No.14889433]

>>14889295
Check out Nantes, West of France.
Very dynamic start-up ecosystem, (1500 to 2000, 4 incubators, including one strated by Rob Spiro)regularly ranked no 1 in quality of life rankings for French cities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_2JDXKyOKQ

t.recruiter in nantes, if you come here and have actual tech skills, you'll be turning offers down everyday.

[Anonymous No.14889441]

>>14889391
>>14889430

[Anonymous No.14889452]

>>14889391
haha, won't go into details but I know very well most of those cities. I grew up in Paris rich west suburb, it's nice indeed.

Paris is fine but you need to make a shit ton of money, housing is super pricey, and commuting with the RER is a soul killer. I'd rather avoid it.

[Anonymous No.14889473]

>>14889433
Interesting, most of friends my age moved to Nantes those past 3 years.

It's quite OK but the vibe is a little too punk-a-chien for me, I guess you can completely avoid it though. I've heard the salaries are ridiculously low though?

[Anonymous No.14889519]

>>14889352
If you work in geneva you can live in france and live like a king, just avoid the area around annemasse, you can even live in Annecy if you don't mind doing a 1h-1h30 drive twice a day

[Anonymous No.14889527]

>>14889295
Zug, Switzerland it's a tax and tech heaven and has a super comfy lake

[Anonymous No.14889551]

>>14889519
Annecy is more like 40-50mn away from Geneva.
Yeah this area is cool I know it very well.

[Anonymous No.14889559]

european cities listed by quality of life
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/region_rankings.jsp?title=2019-mid&region=150

countries listed by quality of life
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2019-mid&region=150

[Anonymous No.14889570]

>>14889391
Hahaha no. I moved out of london 2 years ago, from wimbledon as well which is nearly as high market as it comes. London is a dead, violent city now.

[Anonymous No.14889584]

Any opinions on Barcelona or Prague?

[Anonymous No.14889594]

>>14889433
Which kind of tech skills are you talking about, specifically? Coding?

[Anonymous No.14889595]

Also moving to europe from burgerworld. Was thinking about living in between Utrecht and Amsterdam. Edinburgh, London, and Oxford are also on the list. Would love any opinions on these cities

Also where do rich euros go to get some sun if you're living in a gloomy overcast city like most of the ones i listed?

[Anonymous No.14889596]

>>14889295
Pick one with good and cheap schools, and little burocracy, I would say The Netherlands, everywhere but Amsterdam is ok

[Anonymous No.14889608]

>>14889584
Barcelona is sadly filled with blacks wkho harass you everywhere you go. Prague is lovely.

[Anonymous No.14889614]

>>14889595
Ibiza, Capri

[Anonymous No.14889615]

>>14889594
Software development
Product management (tech/software)

[Anonymous No.14889633]

>>14889595
Edinburgh would be top of my list from those.

[Anonymous No.14889643]

>city
thats your first and last mistake
in the coming times all urbanites will die

[Anonymous No.14889645]

>>14889608
Completely wrong.

I lived in Barcelona, you just have to avoid the super touristic areas. Even the "sketchy" part (Raval) is comfy as fuck compared to some areas of Paris and its suburbs. The whole city is ultra safe, the local police (MOSSOS) are ALWAYS on patrol in the city.

It's also a super rich city, hence why they want out of Spain. Quality of life is very high there. Businesswise it's not so bad neither, Catalans are serious, some interesting startups are there and funding is growing.

[Anonymous No.14889658]

>>14889430
>>14889441
Huh, you're right, I assumed it was affluent because why else would it be there but I checked out the average wage and it's actually average for France.

>>14889452
I lived in the 16th arrondissement until a couple of years ago. Honestly how tranquil you'll be can be very situational, where I lived — overlooking the Seine — was absolutely fine until a few years ago, then a few things started happening.

1° The town hall authorised a "guinguette" on the Quai de Javel, which now blasts extremely loud music, that can easily be heard from over half a kilometre, into the night for six months of the year. Noise complaints by locals have resulted in no action being taken. The Socialist town hall is entirely beholden to "festivist" ideology, any desire for tranquillity is seen as "wanting to turn Paris into a museum". There are also more and more "party boats" now.

2° For a few summers now, the shitskins installed in the social housing of the Javel area in the 15th arrondissement have been exploding extremely loud bangers in the Parc André-Citroën in the middle of the night, especially during Ramadan. Call the police about this and they'll say there's nothing they can do because they have more serious things to deal with.

But live a few hundred metres north or west and these aren't problems you'll experience, which is why I say it's so situational. Although I suppose Ian Brossat's obsession with putting social housing in the 16th might be a ticking time-bomb.

[Anonymous No.14889683]

>>14889658
Haha not surprised. I've read Philippe Murray HOMO FESTIVUS years ago, the "festive" mindset is quite depressing actually.... hence why moving towards another city.

It's a shame because Paris is beautiful but the current vibe is terrible.

[Anonymous No.14889702]

>>14889295
Live in Munich for a few years, it's super chill and you can do networking. It's Vienna on steroids, less tourist-y but better for your needs.
Then try to outsource your company's business by moving to Eastern Europe. Poland, Romania and Bulgaria have low income tax, nice cities and cheap gated communities.
STAY AWAY from Southern Europe (everyone is lazy, networking opportunities are poor), Scandinavia (people are fucking weird) and Eastern Europe from the beginning (they're just now recovering from communism). Paris and London are too noisy, dangerous and expensive. Switzerland is hard to get into, but if you manage, it's even better than Munich
>t. becoming a father as well

[Anonymous No.14889709]

stop shilling switzerland. we are full. fuck off

[Anonymous No.14889724]

>>14889301
>Vienna has highest quality of life for the price
WRONG. The Mercer study is bullshit and only applies to the top earners in the city e.g. managers, lawyers, diplomats etc.

If you're not living in an expensive district (1,13,18,19) life is hell. Immigrants and unemployed muslims are literally everywhere.

Public transport is a joke. It's packed with immigrants who haven't showered in weeks; air condition is not generally available. Again, muslims and immigrants are everywhere. If you think about sending your kids to public school, think again. There are classes without a single native German speaker.

The city government is (extremist) left-wing; social democrats have ruled this hell-hole for over 40 years and the only reason the city is doing great is massive immigration.

Taxes are through the roof if you're middle-class/lower upper-class. Wages are being suppressed by close proximity to the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. The country (and especially this city) is extremely anti-capitalist and anti-business.

Eg software devs make ~€30k net per year. Most people less. Average net income is roughly €1.5k net per month. If you're freelancing or running a business be prepared to be fucked by the local tax authority and their close friends SVA every year.

Signed, T. average Viennese who has been living in this place for 15 years, but managed to get away somehow.

[Anonymous No.14889725]

>>14889702
Can you live correctly in Munich without knowing german?

[Anonymous No.14889730]

>>14889725
Never learned German, changed 3 software companies there.
I'm pretty sure they pay non-native speakers more, not sure why.

[Anonymous No.14889740]

>>14889433
>>14889473
I lived in Nantes in 2004/2005. It was already full of homeless people and punk à chiens. No mentions about the amount of agressive African and Maghrebi immigrants. I went back once in Nantes in 2014 with my coworkers, we went out only once and we were attacked by drunk people. Sure you can avoid all this mess but I don't see the point to live to in a city if you have to stay at home and can't enjoy it during the evening, this is complete cuckolding. Even more if you have to raise your children there.
Actually because of this city I became a poltard.

[Anonymous No.14889742]

Lisbon, great city, European tech hub and great weather.

[Anonymous No.14889752]

>>14889683
Very true. What is happening to Paris hurts. You can still live in a pocket of privilege which is why I say it can be fine in terms of QOL, but you can't escape from the general feeling of decline and degeneration (although admittedly French people in general have been pessimistic as fuck since the mid-2000s or so).

[Anonymous No.14889755]

>>14889742
>Lisbon
>European tech hub

lol you wish. That's still Berlin or London.

[Anonymous No.14889764]

>>14889724
This guy is telling the truth.
Big money is in Western Europe but it's getting negated by high taxation and crazy lefties.
Which is why you first do your networking where the money is, and then you move to a low-tax area.

[Anonymous No.14889776]

>>14889391
This is meaningless, because big european cities have veered so far to the left even those of you who'd scream "nigger" and "fuck the kikes" here to be edgy are unironical diversity and homosexuality lovers. Of course Parisians rate their own districts high... and they also vote for globalist left policies at a 90%+ rate. It's like asking Muslims whether sharia is good. In fact, there's exactly the same amount of relevance between the opinion of Parisians and the opinion of Muslims, that is it might matter if you are in either of these groups, but there's no connection possible with regular human beings.

[Anonymous No.14889778]

>>14889755
Lisbon has more unicorn startups than Berlin and London. He's right about that, its startup crowd is literally created by "refugees" from Berlin who escaped high taxation.
I'm more of a mountain guy so I recommended Eastern Europe for part 2, but Lisbon is getting a great tech scene.

[Anonymous No.14889786]

>>14889295
What's a good european city with good quality of life
>Munich
>Zurich
>London

>good networking opportunities
>Berlin
>London

>Im mostly interested in software, tech startups.
>Berlin
>London
>Zurich
>Prague

Stay the fuck away from the south. People are lazy as fuck, don't work at all during summer (May-October) and in general have a shitty work attitude.

If you can afford it, move to the U.S. It's the best place for networking, tech and $$$ by far.

[Anonymous No.14889796]

>>14889645
I've in total spent 2 months in barcelona. Attempted muggings twice and a full fight once. Its the one city i refuse to travel on the underground on due to the niggers. I can only theorise that you are non white.

[Anonymous No.14889797]

>>14889778
Lisbon is one of the most depressing places in Europe though. Locals look like they're going to jump in front of the sub at any moment.

[Anonymous No.14889803]

>>14889786
Doesn't reflect my experience with Barcelona where I found catalans super serious about work.

Moving to the US... not sure if it's worth it. I'm attached to the European roots. I find most US cities quite depressing.

[Anonymous No.14889812]

>>14889633
Why’s that?

[Anonymous No.14889821]

>>14889796
I lived in the good part of BCN so I guess I had a different experience. The black population is infinitesimal compared to a city like Paris (even Nantes).

[Anonymous No.14889828]

>>14889742
Love lisbon, beautiful place.

[Anonymous No.14889838]

eurofag here
I wouldnt wanna live in any major western european city. better live in the countryside close to a big city. countryside is still comfy even though the shitskins are everywhere thsse days

[Anonymous No.14889842]

>>14889797
Can't argue, never been there and I don't intend to visit.
But to say they don't have a tech scene is just stupid boomer thinking "Germany/France/UK good, everything else trash". Things are changing in Europe.

[Anonymous No.14889848]

>>14889803
>I find most US cities quite depressing.

I agree and it's the only reason I'm still in Europe. Still, NYC is an amazing place. Too bad it's expensive as fuck to raise a family there. E.g. $8k/month for a 2BR apartment in West Brooklyn or > $10k/month in SoHo.

[Anonymous No.14889854]

>>14889742
Niggers and brown people (moortuguese)

[Anonymous No.14889857]

>>14889821
Im sure it is but i past visited paris over 10 years ago and wouldn't go back. Im about to have my first kid and plan to move to the cotswalsds in the UK, away from all the decay. Not suitable for tech work though.

[Anonymous No.14889866]

>>14889295
frankfurt

[Anonymous No.14889876]

>>14889857
I spent almost my entire life in Eastern Europe, I've been in Paris for 3 days in total.
I've been robbed twice, and both times were in Paris.
So much for East - scary, Paris - safe lmao.

[Anonymous No.14889879]

>>14889295

Curious Euro anons, how is Czechia or Slovakia to live in? If I make it, I plan on setting aside money for a surrogacy child and Czechia seems to be the most affordable place to do it and I've always wondered what those places would be like to raise a child instead of North America.

[Anonymous No.14889883]

I'm a self loathing frog but even with all the shitskins and pozzed kike mental cancer, truth is frog land is still comfy. Still fuck Paris though. A medium sized city in the south is ideal.

[Anonymous No.14889885]

>>14889866
Horrible idea for a father to move to a ghetto.
Solid networking opportunities, true, but this city is filled with sketch individuals.
If he chooses Germany he'd better stick to Bavaria.

[Anonymous No.14889886]

>>14889848
Colorado is the answer you seek. Boulder or Denver

[Anonymous No.14889904]

>>14889725
>>14889730
They don't speak german there anyway. They speak Bayrisch.

[Anonymous No.14889905]

>>14889879
Depends on what values you want to instil on your kid.
Large Czech cities have a huge drug/prostitution scene.
But the countries are safe and pretty. Sucks that not even half their youth speaks English.

[Anonymous No.14889916]

What’s the verdict on Utrecht?

[Anonymous No.14889918]

>>14889857
Most decent tech companies allow you to to work remotely. Also Kemble station is mainline to London, so commute isn't that bad.

[Anonymous No.14889920]

Budapest

[Anonymous No.14889923]

>>14889883
Any name in mind?
South France is comfy but networking wise it can't be difficult.

[Anonymous No.14889925]

>>14889391
I swear to god 4chan is full of French fags. I should know, I'm one myself.

[Anonymous No.14889931]

>>14889842
>Things are changing in Europe.

Right. Europeans are still extremely risk-averse which means almost everyone goes for big corp/government/no risk jobs.

Things are not changing. If you have ever done business in the U.S. and in the EU zone you will notice the difference.

Also, the Eurozone is going to get shit on in the next 5 years. The southern bloc is not willing to do any reforms whatsoever; ECB central rate is already negative and large parts of the southern economy can't survive without quantitative easing.

If I had the money, I would move to the US without thinking twice.

[Anonymous No.14889946]

>>14889920
God I hate America so fucking much. Look at the cities I could be living in they are like something out of a fantasy novel

[Anonymous No.14889954]

What about Malta? I've heard they're very crypto friendly as well.

[Anonymous No.14889971]

>>14889946
>something out of a fantasy novel

Yeah, a fantasy novel packed with begging gypsies, rampant corruption and low wages. Who wouldn't want to live there?

[Anonymous No.14889984]

What about Rome ? i always wanted to live in italy, i like the language and food

[Anonymous No.14890003]

>>14889971
Have you lived in a major American city?

[Anonymous No.14890014]

>>14889905

I want to raise them to be sophisticated, with upper class hobbies (music, language, fencing, etiquette, etc.) and far-right beliefs. I want them to have as little access to television and computers until they're like 10 as possible.

I've thought of Central Europe like Czechia, Slovakia, Switzerland, Austria, or Hungary. Not sure if there are better places. I speak basic German, if that helps.

[Anonymous No.14890022]

>>14889984
Haven’t been to Rome but Florence was incredible. Those fuckers don’t use AC though so prepare to be miserable in the summer

I heard Rome was a shithole tourist trap but haven’t been

[Anonymous No.14890028]

>>14889295
You might want to stay in a city for a while before deciding where to move. Everything has a lot of pros and cons.
Most big cities in Europe a very liberal and quite filled with immigrants. I guess they are less than in the US but still, it was quite rare to see Niggers like 10 years ago in Germany, but now I'm seeing like 10-20 every day here in Munich.
Just take a bit of time and visit some cities listed here, talk to locals and build your own opinion.
I would not recommend you Berlin tho, it's pretty cheap but most districts and public schools are full with arabs/turks.

[Anonymous No.14890037]

>>14889416
Ireland is cucked beyond belief by the globalhomo agenda

[Anonymous No.14890039]

>>14889452
The Paris metro is the most scummy and dangerous place on earth. Only the BART and New York subway can compare. But it’s the same problems, niggers and non whites

[Anonymous No.14890042]

>>14890003
Cities I have lived in:

>Vienna 15 years
>London 1.5 years
>NYC 9 months
>Berlin 6 months

[Anonymous No.14890066]

>>14890028
>10-20 niggers a day in a massive major city
Just sold my house and booked my flight
t. Atlanta

[Anonymous No.14890096]

>>14890066
Kek

[Anonymous No.14890121]

>>14890042
New York is an outlier. That along with arguably Denver, Portland, and Boston are the only decent cities we have. And of course you have to be pretty rich to enjoy NYC
Try living in Detroit, Baltimore, DC, Atlanta, LA, Philly, Chicago, New Orleans, etc. They are all total shitholes

[Anonymous No.14890138]

ITT: A bunch of rootless cosmopolitans trying to leave their host countries to escape the problems they never tried to solve.
You are all jews and I will kill you

[Anonymous No.14890147]

>>14889295
winchester area. 1 hour on train from london.

[Anonymous No.14890155]

>>14890039
>Paris metro
>dangerous

Eh, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs decided to move their archives from central Paris to a shitty third-world suburb, La Courneuve, because cheap real estate. In the course of my studies I regularly had to take the RER going there for a couple of years, I was the only huwyte person on that train but nothing ever happened to me except having my nostrils assaulted by the smell of Blacks and Pakis. I wouldn't go there at night but during the day it's not dangerous, just unpleasant for the senses.

[Anonymous No.14890157]

>>14889724
So where do you recommend? Zurich?

[Anonymous No.14890188]

>>14890042
Yeah, so shut up, no clue what you’re talking about

>t. American who has lived in europe.

[Anonymous No.14890205]

>>14890138
>ITT: A bunch of rootless cosmopolitans trying to leave their host countries to escape the problems they never tried to solve.

go fuck yourself. ever lived in a city that used to be genuinely enjoyable and was entirely ruined by leftist/retarded politics? i did the only reasonable thing: leave this shit-hole and live on the country-side far away from raping and stealing turks/arabs/$insert_shitskin_here.

[Anonymous No.14890211]

could you imagine to have a burger *culture*

[Anonymous No.14890238]

>>14890188
>Lived and worked in a US city
>Still work for US companies and go there every other month
>no clue what I'm talking about

ok bud, how about you go fuck yourself?

[Anonymous No.14890271]

Akademgorodok

[Anonymous No.14890278]

>>14889595

I live in Amsterdam. Anywhere between Amsterdam and Utrecht is really nice. How old are you?

[Anonymous No.14890289]

>>14889931
>Right. Europeans are still extremely risk-averse which means almost everyone goes for big corp/government/no risk jobs.
Nope. Western Euros from countries that were rich in the 90s are risk-averse. Easterners have already suffered from communism and aren't buying the EU bullshit, and Portugal inwhich was shit on by someone in this thread has turned from a junkie dump into a tech hub. People who think that France/Germany/UK are the only viable options have got things backwards.
>Things are not changing. If you have ever done business in the U.S. and in the EU zone you will notice the difference.
Once again, Germany and France are moving slow, southerners are lazy and the US is doing far better. By "changing" I meant that places that were once dumps are now giving people huge opportunities, whereas Mashall plan recipients are becoming worse every year.
>Also, the Eurozone is going to get shit on in the next 5 years.
True, which is why half my net worth is in crypto.
> The southern bloc is not willing to do any reforms whatsoever; ECB central rate is already negative and large parts of the southern economy can't survive without quantitative easing.
Yep, Italy and Spain will burn this mofo into the ground and crypto nerds will unironically profit from that.
>If I had the money, I would move to the US without thinking twice.
Fair enough, but I still think it's easier to become a millionaire in low-tax Portugal or Eastern Europe and THEN move into the developed world, USA included. Besides OP specifically asked about Europe.

[Anonymous No.14890313]

>>14889595
>Also where do rich euros go to get some sun if you're living in a gloomy overcast city like most of the ones i listed?

>southern France
>yachting/sailing in Croatia and Italy

[Anonymous No.14890320]

>>14890121
I would never fucking move to Portland that place is teeming with Antifa and junkies

[Anonymous No.14890323]

>>14890014
Good on you, we're on the same page, which is why I wouldn't recommend Czechia or Austria.
Hungarians only speak hungarian which is a shame, otherwise I'd recommend the country in a heartbeat.
Switzerland is great, but then again, it's not particularly easy getting in.
I've been in Slovakia for a total of a day but it sounds best from the options you outlined.
But still, you want to start networking in a rich city first, and the only city in Europe that's both rich and chill and safe is Munich. Where you go from there is up to you.

[Anonymous No.14890332]

>>14890238
You’ve only lived in New York. You objectively have no clue what the fuck you’re talking about. The rest of the US is about as different from New York as it is from Europe.

And it’s cancer.

[Anonymous No.14890339]

>>14889584
Prague is one of the 3 European kike hqs. It will always be less shitty than the rest.
Prety comfy.

[Anonymous No.14890350]

>>14889316
Can vouch for this

[Anonymous No.14890353]

>>14889920

Amerifat here. Did a long solo euro trip to 11 countries. Budapest was my favorite city. Had an american expat buddy there I visited too. Lower wages but its not a shit hole

[Anonymous No.14890370]

>>14890339
>everyone does MDMA in highschool
>a prostitution hub
>hardcore reddit-tier atheist radicalism
not exactly what OP was asking for.

[Anonymous No.14890374]

>>14890332
>You’ve only lived in New York.

Yes for a longer period of time in my own apartment etc.

I've stayed in the following cities for some weeks for business:

>Boston
>San Francisco
>Austin
>LA
>San Diego

Apart from homeless people everywhere San Diego was amazing.

[Anonymous No.14890383]

>>14889391
>>14889925
recaptcha guillotine when?

[Anonymous No.14890385]

>>14889645
>>14889796
This. That faggot is probably a shitskin. The center of Barca is full of scammers and thieves who pester you constantly.
Segregated areas in the peripheral are good though.

[Anonymous No.14890419]

>>14889295
As a European I tried to answer your question but to no avail. It's all going down the shitter here.

[Anonymous No.14890438]

>>14890323

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind. Here's a rare anime girl for your troubles

[Anonymous No.14890450]

>>14889879
Comfy. Slovakia if you're into mountains and don't mind living in a small town. Czech is more developed and more German like. Hungary and Poland are also based compared to westcuck Europe.

[Anonymous No.14890451]

What about Copenhagen? Less immigrants than in Oslo and Stockholm.

[Anonymous No.14890452]

>>14889645

Top kek, stop lying Jordi, fots pena.

Barcelona is full of niggers, northafricans and latinos. Pickpocketers (who are usually romanians) are everywhere in touristic areas and the police simply can't do anything about it.

It's a shitty city to live in at the moment. Also the wages are low compared to France or northern european countries.

And it's full of feminazis and brainwashed independentists.

Try elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.14890473]

So we’re all agreed Zurich is the best?

[Anonymous No.14890484]

>>14890385
Barcelona is very safe as you long as you don't go to touristic areas which have pickpockets.
Not the safest city but compared to SF for example I feel 100x much safer.

[Anonymous No.14890499]

>>14890473
Nope, London is, except for all the inferior niggers and arabs walking around everywhere there which is a problem.

[Anonymous No.14890521]

>>14890499
Is there a point living in London 8f you don't work in finance? Seems like one of those childless cities for young corporate drone fresh out of college.

[Anonymous No.14890541]

>>14889946
You're not missing anything. They;re very boring after day 3, way overpriced, and filled with heartless miserable robot people

[Anonymous No.14890555]

>>14890278
34 year old boomer with younger gf. Really into music and museums and stuff otherwise I’d fuck off to the countryside. Amsterdam was very hip when I visited and the people were tall fit and attractive as well as being very chill. Seems like my kind of place and a decent place to raise a family. Never been to Utrecht but it seems like a comfier more Dutch place which sounds awesome. Living in between both cities seems ideal although I do worry about the weather getting to me, here in the southeast USA it’s sunny most of the time

[Anonymous No.14890615]

>>14890320
And yet there are virtually no blacks at all. Pick your poison. I’ll take liberals over blacks any day at least the former give a shit about their environment and are not violent as fuck
It’s also ridiculously friendly compared to other US cities

[Anonymous No.14890622]

>>14890332
>And it’s cancer.
Funny. To me NYC is absolute cancer compared to the rest of the US.

>>14890121
Baltimore is the wild wild west, it's a super exciting place to live. New Orleans is beautiful and densely packed with art and culture. Detroit is probably a great option if you wanna get in on something before it rebounds greatly.

Why are you hating on the hoods? The hood is arguably the only thing that makes America great, or what is exciting and lively about living there. When I'm in the US i spend most of my time in the hood anyway

[Anonymous No.14890629]

>>14890452
>Pickpocketers (who are usually romanians)

I suppose you're just an ignorant American.

The pickpocketers in Europe are gypsies, and they are not from Romania but from Egypt \ India.

And no , im not from Romania, im just a smart guy who doesnt live in American- the land of the stupid.

[Anonymous No.14890662]

>>14889615
fellow tech PM here

How are you searching for remote opportunities?

[Anonymous No.14890718]

>>14890662
OP here on my phone
How did you make the move from dev to PM?

As for remote opportunities, same with everything, either remote companies and become so good that they let you work remotely

[Anonymous No.14890728]

Meh....you Anglosphere cucks are missing put on the true wild wild west....the tropics in South East Asia.

A good base is Taipei, Taiwan. Comfy as fuck with dirt cheap prices and a high education rate. Not much lowrr class. The public transport is top notch and a beautiful island with plenty of hiking, tourist attractions and beaches.

[Anonymous No.14890730]

>>14890622
The hood was ok until I turned 30 and realized it was degenerate and dangerous and no place to raise kids
I’ve been held up at gunpoint in broad daylight next to a library, eventually you realize you are living in a fucked up place where you can legit get killed for no reason
But yeah it’s exciting I guess. NYC is probably the best place to live in America, you get some hood but it’s very safe and policed. It’s also a rich person’s playground. I’m an artist so I can’t live in some boring as fuck countryside village hence Amsterdam being high on my list. But if I really make it I’ll def have an apartment in nyc as well

[Anonymous No.14890757]

>>14890718
I only just moved into it last year in October. Basically I found a PM opportunity (at a different tech company) that was very similar to what I was working on as a dev. They interviewed me and I proved I was sociable/not a sperg and wanted to learn more about the business/marketing/project side of things, so they gave me a shot.

It's fun but at times I do miss being able to just go in and code all day. Being a PM involves talking to people for huge chunks of the day which can be draining. But at the same time you get way more exposure to higher ranks at the company which is good for vertical promotions.

I'm interested in remote in the future but don't think I have the "skills" yet to be that desirable compared to being on-site.

[Anonymous No.14890760]

How is Switzerland? Is it cucked like western Europe or actually good place to live if I have $$$?

[Anonymous No.14890769]

>>14890450

I'm fine with that, is Slovakia cucked as well or is it more based? If it's more based than Czechia then I think I can deal with it. I just don't want the kid to grow up with the degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.14890770]

>>14890760
It's cucked but lagging by about a decade.

[Anonymous No.14890778]

>>14890760
>cucked
not too cucked politically, very cucked socially
>actually a good place to live if I have $$$?
could get boring but that's a good thing. I'd say hell yea

[Anonymous No.14890788]

>>14890499
I spent most of my life in london, repulsive place

[Anonymous No.14890792]

>>14890770
IF SWITZERLAND HAS FALLEN WHERE THE FUCK DO WE GO FAGGOTS? TEL AVIV? BUCHAREST? FUCKINF MINSK?

EVRRY SINGLE FAGGOT ITT IS CONPLAINING ABOUT EVERY CITY IMAGINABLE. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS AND GIVE ME A FUCKING CITY

[Anonymous No.14890793]

>>14890728
How are the salaries in Taipei though? I love the city but I'm guessing you have to make it on your own there because working for a Taiwanese company is not fun.

[Anonymous No.14890803]

>>14890792
Munich
Tallinn
Sofia Suburbs
Tel Aviv and Bucharest are actually pretty fine as well
Budapest if you don't mind not sharing a commonn language with the locals
Krakow

[Anonymous No.14890814]

>>14890555

Cool. Utrecht is indeed the same comfy Dutch city vibe but less international. Plenty of musea/museums here and there, more famous ones in Adam, but everything is so close to eachother anyway. Both have good music venues, Amsterdam has the concertgebouw which is one of the best classical venues in the world with regards to acoustics. In between the cities the prices are high (400-600k in euro's for a nice house) and you won't easily find low iq / nignogs there (assuming you want to avoid this). Amsterdam is still chill with high-end people in it, as in fit, well-educated, good-looking etc. but leftist as fuck. Last local government elections the green party won majorly. I myself am a member of Forum (FvD) which is the alt-right party of the Netherlands but they'll never conquer Amsterdam or Utrecht haha. The elite are hipocritical as can be because they enjoy elite living in 1M+ houses whilst voting their guilt away on green or europhile parties. But then again that is the same in all major European cities. I always like to think that only Switzerland (Zurich has been dropped a lot here) has better overall grades then the Netherlands with regards to high-end jobs, quality of living, low-cost services like medical care, quality schools for children, good transport, etcetera.

[Anonymous No.14890815]

>>14890757
Cool. I'm a dev who's non sperg as well so I guess I have my chances. It's like a super power to be able to communicate with developers and business people as well. Developers are a mystery for lots of people.

[Anonymous No.14890816]

>>14890792
>>14890803
And before I forget - virtually every European country's countryside.
Capitals are cucked by definition

[Anonymous No.14890823]

Lol. Euro fags. This is a USA board. American or getfo.

[Anonymous No.14890840]

>>14890803
>Tel Aviv
Enjoy your AIDS.

[Anonymous No.14890847]

>>14890823
Holy shit the cringe

[Anonymous No.14890861]

>>14890847

Lol cringe this dick Franz you French faggot

[Anonymous No.14890862]

Lviv, Ukraine. cheap and yummy food

[Anonymous No.14890871]

>>14889295
1. Naples, Italy
A beautiful and safe city, gang free, my Great Grandparents came from there
2. Sofia, Bulgaria
Free of corruption
3. Belgrade, Serbia
Bomb proof
4. Belfast, Northern Ireland
Highest religious freedom index in the world, another set of my great grandparents came from here
5. Chisinau, Moldova
No theft or prostitution

[Anonymous No.14890874]

>>14889797
what? This is some top tier bullshit lmao

[Anonymous No.14890876]

>>14890730
Obviously i wouldn't raise kids there.

But as an artist i don't see how you could enjoy some boring rich Russian expat playground like NYC as inspirational. You must make some corporate ass art

[Anonymous No.14890879]

>wanting anything more than a bottom of the barrel job in Europe

OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.14890885]

>>14890792
Well its not gone. Even london in 2009 was alright. Switzerland just majorly voted to hand over autonomy to the EU and have been building their Muslim population so they will end up poorly but still not a bad comparative choice. The women are good looking.

[Anonymous No.14890886]

>>14890871
thanks anon. that made my day.

[Anonymous No.14890894]

>>14890823
>>14890861
>unironically being a fucking amerikuck

[Anonymous No.14890913]

>>14890871

Tell me about prostitution in Chisinau

[Anonymous No.14890917]

>>14890871
> Naples
Alright it stinks, I concede
> Sofia
"corruption" will never bother you, also it's not worse than the rest of Europe, it's just that corrupt people tend do brag about it instead of hiding which pisses normies off
> Belgrade
There's no Clinton in the white house so bombs are not a concern
> Belfast
The bomb period here has also passed, what's left is Christian work ethic and humility
> Moldova
OP never planned moving there

Why so negative, fellow euro?

[Anonymous No.14890927]

>>14890894

You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.14890930]

>>14890879
Its more like 70% taxes in germany.

[Anonymous No.14890938]

>>14890792
I think Zurich or Tel Aviv is the play. Everything else has been a bullshit suggestion. And no...there’s absolutely no fucking way Zurich is overrun with dethniks shove that bullshit up your cynical asses

[Anonymous No.14890949]

>>14890769
Slovaks hate foreigners with passion.

Literally only city where you could be accepted is Bratislava and it's a shithole with public transport that sucks cocks and fucked up road network.

In Czech Republic Prague and Brno are the only real locations where you can move in.

IMO Prague wins over Slovakia, but it's true that Slovakia is way less degenerate.

[Anonymous No.14890950]

I'm a burger who speaks Hochdeutsch (fluently, my parents come from Frankfurt). Would I have trouble communicating in Zurich?

[Anonymous No.14890952]

>>14890927
>being a FUCKING amerimutt

[Anonymous No.14890958]

>>14890871
>Highest religious freedom index in the world
This is a good thing why?

[Anonymous No.14890961]

>>14889316

This, if you want to be raped in the ass by taxes.

[Anonymous No.14890976]

>>14890938
Tel-Aviv, Palestine. FUCK tel aviv, awful people.

[Anonymous No.14890986]

>>14890952

Your envy of america and self inferiority is disgustingly odorous

[Anonymous No.14890990]

>>14890950
I'm sure you can learn a new language pretty quick online; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCu45ILtikE

[Anonymous No.14890996]

>>14890986
>Your envy of america and self inferiority is disgustingly odorous

[Anonymous No.14891003]

>>14890949
>degenerate
there's that meme word again used by /pol/ incels

[Anonymous No.14891023]

>>14890814
Sounds perfect desu. I don’t mind the leftism as much as gun violence and blacks. It makes more sense to be more leftist when you are never under constant threat the way you are here in the states. Blissful ignorance. But yeah I would vote right wing, otherwise the country goes to shit. I don’t mind some educated blacks or browns here and there I just can’t live around low iq violent gun toting nigs
I feel like Amsterdam has a solid 50 years of comfiness, maybe more.
Switz may be a bit nicer but it’s not as hip. When I went to Amsterdam they were playing Ariel Pink in the stores, that’s my kind of scene right there. I also like sports so I’d enjoy going to Ajax matches

[Anonymous No.14891028]

>>14890996

Yes. You are crying. On the outside and the inside. Sorry youre meaningless in history now bro.

[Anonymous No.14891032]

>>14891003
>meme word again used by /pol/ incels
nice try faggot, here's a brief description that doesn't use the word
>>14890370

[Anonymous No.14891049]

>>14891023

Amsterdam is a shithole filled with scumbag junkies and many many thuggish minorities. It's shit.

[Anonymous No.14891050]

>>14890990
That's the wrong language, anon

[Anonymous No.14891054]

>>14890876
Name a better diy music scene than Brooklyn’s

[Anonymous No.14891065]

>>14889295
I work for a startup in Munich, and I highly recommend it. There may be less startups overall compared to Berlin, but the pay is better, and the city is nicer, specially for families.

[Anonymous No.14891089]

>>14891049
No, that’s Atlanta, the shithole I’m trying to escape

[Anonymous No.14891099]

>>14891028
>Yes. You are crying. On the outside and the inside. Sorry youre meaningless in history now bro.

[Anonymous No.14891115]

>>14891089

Yes. Atlanta is also a huge shithole. Move to Tampa if you're looking for easy living.

[Anonymous No.14891140]

>>14891049
>>14891023

There is a truth to this. I don't want to oversell to be honest. We do have a Moroccan / immigrant problem for years, but they're mostly up in the western part of town away from the centre, but still it's there. Most of the violence is targeted in the crime-world but compared to US inner-cities this is all still relatively low i think. Junkies, not so much and otherwise taken care of by social services, couple of homeless but not too bad. Tourism is actually the bigger impact on the city as it creates a bit of a cheapish culture.

Anyway, just visit the place if you want to overthink moving near it or in it is the best advice obviously.

[Anonymous No.14891204]

>>14889295
Burger here. I like Cyprus. Fresh/cheap produce and seafood, rich history, nice weather all year, and vacation destination for foreign thots.

Went there during the winter season, was awesome. Prolly not too good for connections though, unless you're interested in money laundering or setting up shell companies.

[Anonymous No.14891216]

>>14891140
How hard is Dutch to learn? Do you think I could pick it up in a year of living there and visiting Utrecht a lot? I know most people in Amsterdam speak English but I like learning languages and want to integrate more if I’m starting a family there.

[Anonymous No.14891233]

>>14889730
How do you live in Germany for years and not download duolingo and try to learn the language?
You're like the Mexicans that clean my house. They've been here for years and can't speak shit for English, despite years of immersion.

[Anonymous No.14891244]

>>14890138
>to escape the problems they never tried to solve
Yes, they should have instead turned into Rambojesus and personally removed the horde of subhumans ruining their city and the entire political establishment of their country who brought the subhumans in. What lazy cowards, amirite ?

[Anonymous No.14891255]

>>14891049
I lived in Europe for 2+ years and Amsterdam was easily my favorite city to visit. I’m sure living there would be insanely expensive, but it’s such a beautiful and cool city that I’d be willing to pay that premium (if I had the money). Incredibly city, and I loved the Dutch.

Lived in Paris and Belgium, loved both but not sure I’d want to live in either permanently. I prefer the American Southwest for raising a family, although we’re about as far from Tech-friendly as you can get.

[Anonymous No.14891265]

>>14889752
>French people in general have been pessimistic as fuck since the mid-2000s or so).
Need to push that date way back.

[Anonymous No.14891290]

>>14890629

Im from nearby Barcelona, retard.

Pickpocketers are usually romanians and gypsies.

[Anonymous No.14891297]

>>14889848
>$8 and $10k/month
Lmfao that is double what NYC housing actually costs outside of a meme block. $4k/month gets you a great 2BR anywhere you want to live.

One secret of NY is thar beyond housing costs it’s really not that expensive - only about 1 million of the 9 million people have any real money.

[Anonymous No.14891319]

>>14889295
Copenhagen or tallinn

[Anonymous No.14891320]

>>14889595
>Utrecht
...elliot?

[Anonymous No.14891322]

>>14889295
Budapest

[Anonymous No.14891329]

>>14889755
Retarded as well. European tech hub is Finland, Estonia and Romania.

[Anonymous No.14891347]

Birmingham UK

[Anonymous No.14891354]

>>14889886
If you like wet-brained leftists. Seattle area is actually best non-NYC option for a tech person in USA.

[Anonymous No.14891369]

>>14889931
This is correct. Economically the USA is far superior and will increase the gap over the next decade.

[Anonymous No.14891388]

>>14890003
America is actually very safe. Only the most retarded people are actually afraid in any of our cities. If you make more than $50k/year in US you can have a good life.

[Anonymous No.14891397]

I work in tech in Switzerland. Here are some observations.

Public transport is very good, meaning that you can live fairly far from your job and just get the (reliable, clean, punctual) trains to work and back.

French-speaking Swiss are friendly but lazy, and German-speaking Swiss are ultra-German (humorless and rule-abiding, but ultimately hard working and fair people). Never really worked with anyone from Ticino (Italian-speaking region). I find the Swiss-French to be quite different than actual French people (more polite, not as negative, but not as passionate). Most people I work with are PhDs/postdocs from all over the world and the Swiss are a minority, so it might not be too accurate.

People are friendly but reserved. I don't mind, but I know burgers here who think everyone is rude/stuck up when really it's just a different culture where you don't talk to people you don't know. You might get the wrong impression and think that people are just prudes or squares, but that's not the case at all.

The cities are the worst part of Switzerland. There's nothing wrong with them really, but they're just boring after a while, expensive, and have no real atmosphere. Maybe that's what you'd expect in a country that favors stability above anything else. Regardless, you can easily take a train or cheap flight to Milan, Barcelona, London or wherever if you want to have fun or see cool shit. You get lots of holidays compared to other countries.

The scenery and nature is absolutely godlike.

I'd raise a family here for sure. But deep down I know that if I had fuck you money, I'd live somewhere that felt a bit more alive.

[Anonymous No.14891414]

>>14889559
>https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/region_rankings.jsp?title=2019-mid&region=150
that's it, I'm moving to Talinn.

[Anonymous No.14891439]

>>14890014
Unpopular opinion here. You should unironically consider Romania. Especially the Western part like Oradea, Timisoara, Cluj-Napoca. Western condition, very safe, excellent food, and prices at least 1/3 of all the cities included in this thread.

Good oportunities if you are in tech. Good quality of life if you have > 1500€ /month.

The bad part: our government is some fucked up socialist tyrannical borderline shit, but in 1 year, at next elections, we get rid of them. They are literally the worse government Romania had.

[Anonymous No.14891449]

>>14890121
Seattle, Dallas/metroplex, Nashville are also very good cities.

[Anonymous No.14891453]

>>14891297
>$4k/month
would be close to the mortgage payment on an $800k house. If I were internationally mobile, why the fuck would I pay that to live in NYC? What a joke-ass city, lol.

[Anonymous No.14891462]

>>14889645
I agree w/ this anon. Was in Barça for a week, granted it was in 2014 but the only nigs I saw were the ones on that main tourist street everyone walks on (was it la rambla? can't remember) and they had all their fake sunglasses on their napsack with the strings ready to pull them up and run away from the cops. The entire city seemed comfy af and i would definitely move there.

[Anonymous No.14891482]

>>14890374
San diego looks nice but the people are like southern europeans and don’t want to work much.

[Anonymous No.14891502]

>>14891439
how are the police in romania? Or govt organizations? Will they harass you to no end if you're a foreigner?

[Anonymous No.14891508]

>>14891216
Dutch isn't very easy to learn, but when living in the country for a year every language will be possible to master by just doing it day in day out.

[Anonymous No.14891509]

>>14890728
Language barrier is very strong in Taipei
>>14890793
They pay you way more than they do actual Taiwanese

[Anonymous No.14891512]

>>14891233
I had no intentions of moving to Switzerland and moving to Switzerland is the only good reason to learn German.
Of course I learned the basics in 4 years just by listening and talking but would always initiate conversations in English.
Deal with it.
>>14891414
Not a bad choice actually.
>>14891439
Dude, Romania/Bulgaria/Hungary/Poland having shittier governments than Western Europe is a meme perpetrated by soros puppets. And your country is not an unpopular choice at all.

[Anonymous No.14891524]

>>14889306

[Anonymous No.14891544]

>>14890629
I am Romanian (living in italy tho) and I confirm this. Those are Gypsies that are all over the place. Happens to have Romanian citizenship, but they are hungarian, serbian, bulgarian, etc.

Impossible to educate scum of the earth petty crime citizens. Romanians are disgusted by them also.

[Anonymous No.14891550]

>>14891054
Brooklyn’s music scene is a relic of a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.14891577]

Alright OP you dont seem like an idiot. Go to Tallinn, Estonia. Tech capital of europe. Cheap too. And its cold, so no subhuman or niggers either. You'll raise your children in an ethnostate but the natives will hate you too. Good luck

[Anonymous No.14891612]

>>14891453
So buy a house? In NYC your wages will be double what you make elsewhere and the opportunities will move you up much faster. To buy a nice 2br in NYC equal to the $4k rent you will need $1.2-1.5 million.

NYC is far bigger than most realize and you can live quite nicely on a tree-lined, single family home block if you want to.

[Anonymous No.14891620]

>>14891397
I will add however that the tech startup scene isn't that great here. The country runs on banking and pharma and people are fairly risk-averse. There's startup ecosystems in Zurich and Lausanne and they're decent I guess, but nothing incredible.

[Anonymous No.14891628]

>>14891544
Immigration statistics from Bulgaria and Romania show that gypsies move to Western Europe at a significantly faster pace than whites.
At least in 10 years they won't be your problem.

[Anonymous No.14891633]

>>14890289

>The southern bloc is not willing to do any reforms whatsoever; ECB central rate is already negative and large parts of the southern economy can't survive without quantitative easing.

Here is an interesting document regarding this matter, although it's about Japan. The ECB will use any means necessary to implement the policies they want to using a self created crisis using debit. It's already been tested in Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY

[Anonymous No.14891655]

if you're in control of your own income, then these are all retard-tier answers due to taxes.
check out Tallinn and Moscow

[Anonymous No.14891688]

>>14889595
>https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/region_rankings.jsp?title=2019-mid&region=150


Literally just rebuilt a house on my own in the center of oxford

I think its the best place for kids in england.

But Bath, England - may be better as Oxford is really a tourist / student town.

But otherwise its great here

Another european city like Zug may just be better but I dont know

[Anonymous No.14891728]

>>14891329
I highly doubt its Romania, its maybe a hub for prostitution and gypsys. It may have dacia going for them, but i dont see really anything else.

[Anonymous No.14891759]

where is the least degenerate place to raise a kid in Europe

[Anonymous No.14891798]

>>14891502
Nope. Our police is almost inexistent. They are polite faggots that don't give a shit if you are foreigner, but they keep the streets clean from violence. Not perfect but Timisoara (my town) is safer that London, Milan (i live in Milan now), Rome, Barcelona or Paris.

More than that you can easily live in big cities of Romania without speaking the language. (Almost) everyone speaks good english and you can get arround easily. For example in Milan almost nobody speaks english, and italians in general think that they are the center of the world, and they don't need to learn another language because italian is "language of the Gods". Ignorants...

Also Romania has begun to be in the latest years european hub of music festivals if you are into this shit. Usually electronic music.

The good part, we have 0 imigrants. Usually romanians are the ones that migrates. 0 niggers, 0 muslims, (almost) 0 chances of terorist attacks.

[Anonymous No.14891841]

>>14890451
spent 6 months banging a 6 foot pregnant scandinavian goddess there

going back

god i love that place, but its more the hot girls than a particularly beautiful city

[Anonymous No.14891932]

>>14891728
Yes. But those are stereotypes and your ignorance showing. Amazon, Google, Oracle, along with a lot of startups and smaller players have headquarters in Romania.

We still got good universities that provide excellent raw work force and compared with western europe at a much smaller cost. Our engineers/doctors are top notch and the second most spoken language in Microsoft is romanian. (Google it)

Unfortunately the rest of the world sees just the gipsy part, but although i acknowledge that, is just a small-small part of Romania.

[Anonymous No.14891944]

>>14891759
Anywhere with a population below 200k

[Anonymous No.14891948]

>>14891354
Kek, Seattle is 10x as liberal as Denver. The women are ugly bluehaired cat ladies and the men are soi. Also enjoy suicide from the literally never ending grey weather.

>>14891388
Again I’ve been held up at gunpoint just walking to a library in broad daylight. I’m street smart but it doesn’t matter you can get robbed or shot easily I know several people who have been murdered in Atlanta. Compared to Western Europe the us is not safe at all unless you live in the white as fuck pac nw or the rich white suburbs surrounding cities. Look at the stats faggot

>>14891449
Have you even been to Europe? Those places suck ass compared to Amsterdam/London/Edinburgh/Budapest etc

>>14891550
Music itself is a relic of a decade ago, Brooklyn still has the best American diy music scene by far, Philly is probably second. Some of the LA shit like Ariel Pink and Chris Cohen is good. NYC also has the best jazz and classical music. You can’t go wrong being a New York musician that’s where all of the action is

[Anonymous No.14891965]

>>14891948
Attn: Euro’s ignore this retard

[Anonymous No.14892020]

>>14890938
>Tel Aviv
fuck off goyim, you aren't welcome here

[Anonymous No.14892037]

>>14891965
Yeah Seattle is a right wing tropical paradise and Dallas has the best music scene in America. Also Atlanta is much safer than Amsterdam. Fucking moron

[Anonymous No.14892078]

>>14890871
>3. Belgrade, Serbia

>tfw sighed relief when i thought no one mentioned my city
>see this

stay out w*sterners

[Anonymous No.14892144]

so im living in oxford, thinking about moving to denmark, but....... ive heard some real good things about san diego... what do???!?!?

[Anonymous No.14892179]

>>14892078
My favorite thing about Belgrade was how Serbian men kept talking up their women and how hot they are and wanting to introduce me to their sisters.

[Anonymous No.14892188]

>>14892078
You, together with the others replying seriously to that, didn't understand the God mode sarcasm there. Try again!

[Anonymous No.14892203]

>>14889340
If you live in Bay Area then just move to Mountain View / San Mateo / Palo Alto / Sunnyvale / Redwood City etc.

SF is childless. This places are not.

[Anonymous No.14892212]

>>14892179
nice larp :^)

>>14892188
i can't tell if you're serious or not by posting that pic. my country isn't the one getting (((diversified))), kek.

[Anonymous No.14892257]

>>14889416

Good for tech jobs too. Rent is disgraceful though. Fquality of food is unreal as it comes from the farms down the road. Dublin is the only proper city desu.

Rent really is ridic though. Wouldnt bother working here for less than 50k euro

[Anonymous No.14892612]

>>14891688
Nice. I like college towns a lot, they’re super comfy. Would definitely prefer Oxford to London and it’s not like you can’t just hop on a train and go to the city when you’re bored

[Anonymous No.14892761]

>>14892612
:)

[Anonymous No.14892786]

>>14892020
Actually my mothers mothers was Ashkenazi so I am

[Anonymous No.14892823]

>>14891265
Well, perhaps I was too young to realise but my memories of the late 90s and early 2000s are that we were still living in a time of relative optimism, muh black-blanc-beur propaganda after the World Cup win, etc. There was the world-changing caveat of 9/11, of course, but in France itself JMLP's presence at the second round of the 2002 presidential election was treated as an utter, incomprehensible aberration rather than the expected manifestation of deep-seated unease within the country. I think the 2005 riots were a big turning point, although maybe I'm overreaching.

[Anonymous No.14892862]

>>14889391
The quality of life report lists me, my suburbs, the university campus here, but only one housing project. First to apply for gentrification gets to stay in my vicinity!

[Anonymous No.14893047]

>>14892212
Not at all a LARP. They are all pimping their women out.

[Anonymous No.14893059]

>>14892823
Sarkozy brought down France.

[Anonymous No.14893138]

>>14893047
definitely a larp seeing as your singular anecdote does not represent reality

[Anonymous No.14893235]

>>14889916
Sad city. Nothing outstanding. Almost like everything in NL.

[Anonymous No.14893275]

>>14890629

Then you should go to America because you are stupid too. Most pickpockets encountered were Eastern Europe including Romania. Glad I'm back in Spain.

[Anonymous No.14893522]

>>14889724
Fellow viennese here, everything he said unfortunately is very spot on

[Anonymous No.14893534]

>>14891948
who do you know who's been murdered in ATL? It had to either be blacks mexican or bikers. Its not like random white ppl get shot in Atlanta or any american city really

[Anonymous No.14893639]

>>14891319
This.

>Tech
Talinn, always.

[Anonymous No.14893771]

Estonia is the most based country in Europe. Great opportunities in IT as well.

[Anonymous No.14893930]

>>14890022
>I heard Rome was a shithole tourist trap but haven’t been
Can confirm
I'm from Rome

[Anonymous No.14894512]

>>14889295
Porto or Lisbon. Porto especially if you're into trad lifestyle

[Anonymous No.14894882]

>>14891319
well im flying back to copenhagen in a few days to see a girl so its nice to see it listed,,, but the city is kinda ugly, apart from the river walk area

[Anonymous No.14895550]

>>14889724
I like Muslims. my neighbour is a Muslim. he's always inviting me to eat. offered to help me when he saw me fixing my car. always there when I need him. he seems like a straight dude.

[Anonymous No.14895741]

>>14892203
Palo alto is just office parks and houses. Boring af.

Though the amount of capital accessible in this city is huge I agree. But no point living there.

[Anonymous No.14895926]

>About to become a father
>Moving to a city

[Anonymous No.14895927]

>>14889920
ye

[Anonymous No.14896066]

Poland is underrated. Living costs are low and with a remote job in the UK you can live like a king.

[Anonymous No.14896224]

how about countryside, not too far from a big city, but with a remote job?

Has anyone done that?

[Anonymous No.14896533]

>>14889724
Im from vienna aswell and thats bs
The public transport is one of the best in europe and literally only costs 1€ per day
I live in the 11th district which is the district of niggers and its still fine
Vienna is one of the cities witg the lowest crimerate aswell and air is pretty good because there is a lot of wind so no smog
Universities are good and free

[Anonymous No.14896562]

Milan, Toulouse, Vienna, Bordeux and Barcelona

[Anonymous No.14896700]

For raising your kids- western coast of Istria, Croatia
Fazana is a nice place. Really comfy
No IT though

[Anonymous No.14896793]

>ctrl+f "Hamburg"
>0 replies

Srsly, niggers?!