But muhh free market insurance

[Anonymous No.14767254]

What’s the best mix between government and free market BIZ

[Anonymous No.14767313]

>>14767254
Nordic Countries.

Which, by the way, are not socialist. As opposed to what both Republicans and Democrats wants amerikans to think.

[Anonymous No.14767425]

>>14767254
Syndicalism.

[Anonymous No.14767444]

Actual subsidized healthcare, with a few exceptions if the harm is self caused. Private options are available
Subsidized compulsory education. Private options are also available
Infrastructure is covered by private companies through unsolicited proposals but have to go through Swiss challenges. Government proposed plans are bid out.
Child care for children that aren’t taken care of by their parents
Subsidized retirement homes

That’s all I can think of.

[Anonymous No.14767474]

>>14767444
>Government proposed plans are bid out.
By that I mean new roads the government has laid out or maintenance of current ones if a contractor doesn’t cover that already

[Anonymous No.14767643]

>>14767254
same as military or policing, for profit healthcare is a conflict of interest.
Going to the hospital would be like going to the DMV, but it would be free. If there were a baseline of public health coverage, for profit insurance would provide much better care.
>>14767425
I was a syndicalist, so I can tell you that's BS. The co-op would still need to turn a profit to keep the lights on. Perhaps you're thinking of mutualism.

[Anonymous No.14767742]

>>14767254
Seeing as our current situation is a combination of unfavorable market conditions (third world low rate of doctors/surgeons per capita with a population that's increased at an unsustainable rate, doubling over the past 60 years; more illegal immigrants than many European countries have people in general), foreign market protectionism (the burden of drug development is almost 100% placed on American consumers; American companies develop 60% of new cures/treatments and pay for the cures European countries develop and sell to their own at unsustainably low prices), FDA approval process cost increasing from inflation-adjusted $400 million in the mid 20th century to over 2 billion today) and intellectual property protections (orphan drug law signed in the early 80s that gives drug companies around 15 years before competing generics are legally allowed to be produced and sold) the answer is free market as opposed to (((free market))). The Nordic model where people are made to be tax cows paying 50+ of their income despite having the most sheltered and unsustainably favorable market conditions in the world through reliance on powerful military alliances and fragile trade practices is a false idol. Countries with a population the size of Wisconsin being taxed for services their otherwise high IQ and physically healthy people don't need to the same rate my fellow pockmarked and bloated goblinoids of the western hemisphere are not the success they seem from the outside.

[Anonymous No.14767791]

fuck off commie
fucking yikes

[Anonymous No.14767795]

We don't live in a free market.
If you goyim understood that, you'd know why healthcare costs so much.

[Anonymous No.14767816]

>>14767313
Nordic model is collapsing because it was subsidized by natural resources and not meant to support freeloaders

[Anonymous No.14767881]

>>14767742
>*50+% of their income (if they're anywhere over the bottom 10th percentile anyway)

There's a reason healthcare wasn't the monumental problem 30 years ago that it is today. It's a preponderance of market and demographic problems that no command-economy style apparatus would fix, but could be better alleviated by going in the opposite direction.

[Anonymous No.14767940]

>>14767795
freedom is not real in any regard. theres simply no such thing.

[Anonymous No.14768042]

>>14767643
No I’m familiar with mutualism. I think syndicalism would be the best economic mindset for utopia, but I understand that it is unrealistic especially compared to American politics today. But under the fourth industrial revolution, syndicalism or mutualism would be much more effective than capitalism, which would basically result in a fascist technocracy. The Dispossessed by Ursula K Le Guin is a good example of what syndicalism could look like.

[Anonymous No.14768071]

>>14767313
Small population
Oil wealth (isn't that a bad thing now lefties?)
Fairly centralized population compared to the US

Not comparable

[Anonymous No.14768282]

>>14767940
You'll experience freedom when the financial system breaks down and cops aren't showing up to end the carnage

[Anonymous No.14768901]

>>14768282
there is no room in the physical laws of the universe to allow for anything we call "freedom". it is literally impossible.

[Anonymous No.14768959]

>>14767940
Freedom isn't free

[Anonymous No.14768988]

>>14768901
rich people have more freedom than poor, no? and it's possible for someone who begins poor to become rich. there ya go

[Anonymous No.14769063]

Probably a mix of
Japanese system: obligatory prevention checks, especially for people over 55.
Swiss system: Paid, but price kept low through government negotiations. Public option, unlike America drugs can be imported from all over the world.

But you'd have to kill/expell all spics and niggers for it to work.

[Anonymous No.14769120]

Best system? What we had in America before HMOs, everything was transparent and fees were handled in cash.

Can't afford it? Simple, don't be poor.