Stakenet Masternodes - Get in while everyone is shitting their pants

[Anonymous No.14704495]

Jobs of XSN Masternodes listed below. Call it a scam all you want, but for once masternodes will actually be service providers.

* Lightning Dex
* One click instant Lightning Swaps (NOT Atomic Swaps)
* Masternode escrow services
* Masternode based oracles/arbitration
* CCPoS - Staking rewards in any other coins
* Tor, PrivateSend, random hop secrets
* Masternode's collateral backed stable coin
* Lightning dApps
* TPoS - Hosting of Trustless Cold staking contracts
* Voting Delegates
* Automated payment of node operators
* Masternode Managers
* Multiple keys for Masternodes
* Enhancements for Smart Contracts and dApps
* Masternode reward split
* Masternodes Quorums Autonomous Swaps
* Cross-Chain dApp infrastructure
* Watchtower services

About $1500 for a masternode right now, and with the launch of the Stakenet Wallet, and the lightning DEX, masternodes will profit from all the backend action.

Even people who's gonna use the multi currency wallet with no intent to ever invest a single dollar in XSN, will STILL benefit the masternodes due to transaction fees, etc.

100x is certainly possible with a 9 million marketcap.

[Anonymous No.14704673]

Already had some MN’s and now I have doubled up thanks to all the cheap XSN.

> Super comfy

[Anonymous No.14704742]

>>14704495
typically stay away from coins that already had a huge pump and dump since there are a lot of bag holders just waiting to get out. Why will this reach its ATH again?

[Anonymous No.14704801]

>>14704495
I see an XSN thread, I upvote. This is a guaranteed moon mission if you're patient. I've been accumulating for more than a year and am up to 6 masternodes. The ups and downs don't affect me because I know this will be my retirement income in a few years.

[Anonymous No.14704805]

>>14704742
Maybe do some research before commenting? Start here:

https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/crypto-news/spotlight/interview-with-stakenets-platform-manager-shahab-behzadi/

[Anonymous No.14704945]

>>14704742
Because XSN doesn't even try to compete with the big boys, but actually tries to work WITH them. I'm a big believer in lightning, and XSN being the 3rd project to implement it, and helping LTC getting up to speed with it, I believe this one is a true winner.
Their masternode based Stakenet Multi currency wallet will make a lot of profits to the nodes, since BTC maximalists will probably use it to exchange LTC/BTC/USDT over lightning for a fraction of the cost, with 100% security inside your own wallet. Like, imagine being able to catch a BTC pump, tether up in seconds, and buy back in seconds after again.
It's gonna be used by millions of people, and the fees (all though low) is gonna stack up immensly and make the nodes a pretty penny.
Below are the jobs of the masternodes, which I would call "service" node at this point, since they actually do something useful, instead of just creating "passive income", which everyone seems to bash these masternodes on all the time.

[Anonymous No.14705066]

>>14704945
any upcoming news or anything?

[Anonymous No.14705098]

>>14705066
Join their discord. They make weekly progress updates.

[Anonymous No.14705153]

>>14705066
There is news coming at the end of the week. (Devs just announched that on Discord). Besides that their multi currency wallet is in public beta testing on Linux right now.
Will soon be ready for public release on windows, and that's when I expect a lot of people to start using it. New income streams for masternodes is soon to be added.

[Anonymous No.14705188]

>>14705066
They put the Multicurrency wallet into public beta for people to test Lightning Swaps. Until now there was a lot of doubt they would be able to pull off this never been done before tech being such a small project but now it’s here, it’s real and not vapourware so now there is a very high chance they can do what they say they are going to do. if they can do it then it is a genuine game changer for the industry so no way it doesn’t get into the top 50

[Anonymous No.14706027]

the devs are too poor to tak this on a good exange

[Anonymous No.14706249]

>Instant one-click private swaps between BTC, LTC, and now Tether via LN swaps. Goods payable with BTC can be bought with LTC, Tether, or XSN.
>Interoperability between LN coins, ETH/ERC20, and EOS tokens
>Re-establishes privacy that LN routers potentially compromise while re-establishing privacy for otherwise-traceable BTC funds
>Truly decentralized DEX - run by MNs, secured by the network - that hosts every blockchain for every coin available for trade so the end-user doesn't need to download them individually
>Pioneered TPoS (trustless proof of stake) - stake 24/7 while your computer is off or even from cold storage
>Working to make TPoS a one-click option
>Trustless MN hosting services payable directly in XSN. Run several MNs while your computer is off and receive a 16% annual ROI in XSN
>DEX Aggregator that intends to pool together numerous other DEXes that suffer from low volume
>CCPoS - stake XSN, receive BTC, LTC, Tether
>Dedicated hardware division.
>Intending to pool MN hardware into a collective supercomputer secured by the network. The DEX is the first dApp.
>No KYC to use the DEX, perform LN swaps, or use any of the other features mentioned above.
https://www.x9developers.com/
The X9 Developers are working to obsolete centralized exchanges. They've routinely delivered on all their ambitious goals to do so.
They're doing it in a way that honors the original cypherpunks that built Bitcoin.
Stakenet is being built for the collective benefit of the entire space.

If you trade between BTC and LTC alone, this will have a tremendous amount of benefits to it.
>No bid orders
>No buying down sell walls
>No need to transfer
Funds and keys remain secured and completely in your control whether you wish to hold, trade, spend, or cold stake.

[Anonymous No.14706377]

Has anyone here tested these swaps yet ?

[Anonymous No.14706444]

>>14706377
I haven't yet. The public beta out now is for Linux. Once a Windows version gets released, I'll cover and test out as much of it as I can

[Anonymous No.14706506]

POSWallet scam

[Anonymous No.14706683]

>>14706506

[Anonymous No.14706865]

Please post a video of this in action. Folks aren't interested in reading

[Anonymous No.14706881]

Good reads
>Whitepaper
https://stakenet.io/Stakenet_Whitepaper.pdf
>Quick rundown
https://medium.com/stakenet/multi-currency-wallet-and-lightning-swaps-stakenet-solution-7d0dafe99105
>X9's contributions to LTC
https://medium.com/stakenet/litecoin-foundation-and-x9-developers-announce-collaboration-510ca985b6
>Exertive Proof of Stake
https://medium.com/stakenet/exertive-proof-of-stake-epos-4a999807f9e4
>Great write-up of Cross Chain Proof of Stake (i.e. stake XSN, receive BTC)
https://medium.com/stakenet/posw-weekly-ccpos-cross-chain-proof-of-stake-de1ac87055cd
>The Cypherpunk Standard of Banking
https://medium.com/altcoin-magazine/the-cypherpunk-standard-of-banking-88f84a834180
>Most recent Dev Update
https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-dev-update-july-1st-c80b1975a58

Further reads
https://medium.com/stakenet

[Anonymous No.14706926]

>>14706865
>Folks aren't interested in reading
At least read the wp anon
There will be plenty of footage on how it works soon

[Anonymous No.14706977]

how long should i expect to wait for an XSN reward after the masternode is set up?

[Anonymous No.14707045]

>>14706977
It takes a few days from initial setup. Afterwards, they should start to come in on an almost daily basis.

[Anonymous No.14707491]

>>14704495
Lmao then why does this coin have almost no volume? Whales must really be buying in... hahaha

[Anonymous No.14707536]

>>14707491
A considerable majority of the supply is locked up in MNs and staking. There isn't very much left to buy.

[Anonymous No.14707574]

>>14707491
Because nobody gives a fuck because it’s not on Binance or any of the big exchanges yet. If it was it would already be x10 from where it is now and everyone would be jizzing their pants at getting in a $1 meanwhile i’ll already be on a x10 going for the x100

[Anonymous No.14707591]

>>14707574
Lololol if it’s so great why is no exchange listing them

[Anonymous No.14708095]

>>14707591
Because they are spending on development, not on new exchange P&D hype.

[Anonymous No.14708146]

>>14707591
Because Stakenet is a huge competitor to any exchange out there. Their lightning DEX will be just as fast as Binance in trading speed, and with the DEX Aggregator, which solves the liquidity issue by combining multiple order books togehter, you'd understand why Binance is afraid of this project.

Do some digging man, BLOCKnet had the same issue, Binance won't list them since they run their own DEX.
Centralized exchanges is soon the minority, and those who stay there is gonna regret it HUGELY.
You really think the BIG BOYS, wants uncle SAM to sniff in their profits if they can avoid it? FUCK NO.

[Anonymous No.14708841]

>>14707591
XSN launched right at the start of the bear market. It was a wise move for them to heavily invest in research and development. Around the time when everything capitulated and BTC hit $3k, they were testing lightning swaps and collaborating with the Litecoin team.
It would have been a tremendous waste to push for big exchange listings when the entire market was plunging into a crater.

[Anonymous No.14709552]

Binance will have DEX.. so there is no future for this coin I'd say... a DEX is a DEX.. don't act like retrded cyber puns, if binance says ''this is dex exange'', that will be a dex exange

[Anonymous No.14709609]

>>14708841
The price is lower now than it was then! Hahaha

[Anonymous No.14709806]

>>14709609
We may be in the early stages of a bull market, but the wreckage is still in clear sight for most alts. ETH was going for around $500 a year ago.

[Anonymous No.14709837]

>>14709806
I mean compared to earlier this bear market. Almost everything is worth more... well.. except for this. I can smell the curry

[Anonymous No.14709923]

STAKENET WILL BE THE FIRST SCALING SOLUTION FOR BTC. Lightning network will work on Stakenet because they have incentivized Masternodes, something ln has been struggling with. They’ve done it. They are bringing ln to all the norms and anyone will be able to use it. Stakenet showed litecoin the ropes, they are the only project working to bring ln to everyone. Don’t miss out. Secure 15,000 xsn for a Masternode and you WILL make it.

[Anonymous No.14710175]

>>14709923
>have incentivized Masternode
What is an incentivized Masternode?

[Anonymous No.14710581]

>>14709837
XSN had a nice pump in May-June 2018 when pretty much everything else was in the red, shortly following the spring 2018 rally that saw ETH revisit $800. ATL is 6-7 cents during the Dec 2018 capitulation.

[Anonymous No.14710746]

>>14710175
XSN's MNs have a ton of practical use-cases - running the DEX, hosting blockchains, acting as LN watchtowers and routers - that stand to make them rather profitable while justifying the use of MNs in the first place.

[Anonymous No.14711117]

>>14709552
Binances "DEX" is not a TRUE DEX, why?
Because ALL the nodes confirming the transactions is owned by Binance themselves. Can't get more CENTRALIZED than that, so you're completely wrong.

Stakenet will do well, I don't doubt it one bit

[Anonymous No.14711148]

>>14711117
Rather ironically, Binance DEX is also blocked in several countries including the US.

[Anonymous No.14711212]

>>14711117
>>14711148
It's been repeated several times by the stakenet team that once they launch this DEX, it can never be shut down, even by them.

[Anonymous No.14711311]

I don't want to run and manage a master node. Is there a service that does it for me if i have the 15k Xsn?

[Anonymous No.14711402]

>>14704742
Also 2000 days for mn roi.
I understand that will decrease with increase to price but ath is over $3.00

[Anonymous No.14711450]

>>14711212
A beautiful sight indeed.
>>14711311
Stakenet offers Masternodes-as-a-Service (MNaaS)
It's very easy to set one up and you pay for the service in XSN. They also have some MN monitoring tools that let you check your balance from the Cloud so you rarely have to open your wallet. My MNs have been running 2-3 months non-stop and I barely have my PC on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9_YdU8vWrU

[Anonymous No.14711491]

>>14711450
Good info, thank you

[Anonymous No.14711587]

>>14711402
What the fuck are you smoking dude? ATH is like $0.78

[Anonymous No.14712138]

>>14711587
There were a handful of times where 1 transaction pumped XSN above $2. CMC still considers that to be the ATH.

[Anonymous No.14712477]

>>14711450
why people should run a masternode?
What is the roi per year
I have always heard on biz that masternodes they are scam and centralized point fo failiure

[Anonymous No.14712593]

>>14712138
Well yeah on Sistemkoin with $50 volume? There's a reason the team made sure to contact Coinmarketcap to exclude their bullshit prices, even asked to get DElisted from there.

Real ATH was $0.79

[Anonymous No.14712654]

>>14712477
There are a lot of projects that utilize MNs when they have little to no use-case for them. Of these, many of them are on the scammy side of things.
XSNs MN network will be used to run a DEX, host blockchains, and boost the liquidity and robustness of the Lightning Network via MN collateral, LN routers, and watchtowers. This setup also allows for unutilized MNs to run code-agnostic dApps on the network (the DEX is the first dApp).

[Anonymous No.14712708]

>>14709552

[Anonymous No.14712898]

Why should normies fomo into this and sending into the hyperspace if it is againsta giants like binance and has no marketing, no one knows, devs are poor and no fomo hype?

This could be like RLC, good on paper, tech, aber shit invesment

[Anonymous No.14712989]

no thanks poo in loos. You'll be stuck with these bags rotting away when the real alt season comes booming. Nobody gives a shit about a new dex. This shit has been out for what, 18 months? and it hasn't managed to get on anything decent at all. This is purely kept alive by retarded bizraelis with heavy bags. Doesn't make any sense from an investor's perspective to invest in something that doesn't do anything at all to bring the investment a positive return.
The tech doesn't win. The scammer with the best marketing wins.

[Anonymous No.14713114]

>>14712989
>Investor's perspective
Another pajeet with a 300$ investment, Don't invest fag no one wants you retards to buy, we shill it so people will use it after launch.

[Anonymous No.14713159]

>>14713114
protip: nobody is going to use it.

[Anonymous No.14713206]

>>14712898
1 - They don't need any XSN to use the services.
2 - They can trade and swap from a private wallet
3 - The security and features offered by Stakenet wallet will be superior to Binance. Binance has only been the big player in this space for about 2 years. They grew in volume and influence because they offered a genuinely good trading platform. Now that it is getting balkanized between a dedicated US exchange, an international, and a "DEX", I'm not sure if they'll be able to keep that same momentum. That said, XSN will not need a tremendous market share of total exchange volume to make the MNs profitable.
4 - They don't need any KYC
5 - DEXs aren't normie-friendly. Stakenet Wallet will have a DEX Aggregator that talks to other DEXs and pools their orderbooks together, providing a simplistic way to access numerous existing DEXs.
6 - MNs don't need a ton of marketing to become profitable as LN payment processors
7 - Normies shouldn't fomo into buying the coin if they haven't read the whitepaper. I would, however, highly recommend it as a wallet and a trading platform for all the benefits it has over any CEX. They should read the whitepaper and invest if they find it worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.14713279]

>>14713206
all your points are refuted by my one and only point
>no marketing

[Anonymous No.14713361]

>>14713279
You're free to look down on XSN for focusing on R&D in a bear market instead of, in your own words, being "the scammer with the best marketing" if you wish.

[Anonymous No.14713400]

>>14713159
I understand that it's beyond your intelligence Ranjeet, maybe some day you'll be able to use it.

[Anonymous No.14713447]

>>14713206
Don't forget to thank me

https://imgur.com/kgqh3x4

[Anonymous No.14713460]

>>14713279
Don't need to market anything.
Products first, then marketing.
The other way around doesn't work anymore, it's easy to see you're new here. What worked in 2017 (hype and empty promises) doesn't work anymore, not to the same extent though.

Hang on to your vaporware shit projects, I'm holding on to something that builds the litteral future of crypto, KEK

[Anonymous No.14713881]

>>14713279
Not interested in the project, but Jesus Christ you're retarded. Marketing isn't everything, plays a huge part, but if your product or end game is shit, you'll see a pump, followed by a deeper DUMP, which you won't recover from

[Anonymous No.14714777]

>>14713159
Brainlet

[Anonymous No.14715884]

>>14714777
checked

[Anonymous No.14716513]

>>14713114
>The tech doesn't win. The scammer with the best marketing wins.
He's true in this, come on
Every one wants money, there is no normie going to use Stakenet instead of Binance.. normies will follow the regulations (ID, photo, taxes...)
Anyway stakenet offers a normie friendly way to stake with TPOS, correct me if I am wrong man

[Anonymous No.14716617]

>>14713460
>What worked in 2017 (hype and empty promises)
it will work anyway... see Tesla, Uber... mareting is all for boom in price
Example cryptobrifge is a great DEX, I have used it in 2017 and I was wondering why everyone used binance
XSN is way better than Critpobridge, but normies will use Binance DEX and Stakenet will be a cyber punk exange

[Anonymous No.14716763]

>>14708146

Absolutely delusional and I like this coin

[Anonymous No.14717138]

>>14716513
>>14716617
Binance rose to prominence being in the right place at the right time while having tons of referral rewards and no KYC. Prior to that, Bittrex and Polo were unstoppable. Around the time that Bittrex switched to mandatory KYC, they lost their spot at the helm permanently. Before that, Bitfinex.
How many exchanges have come and gone in the past 5 years alone? How does this current moment stack up to an exchange that will be nearly impossible to shut down for at least a considerable amount of time into the future.
Also, yes. XSN's wallet is going to have a one-click TPoS solution.

[Anonymous No.14717338]

>>14716617
The "Stakenet Wallet" which is a multi currency lightning wallet will market the project by itself.
Tons of people will use it, they'll get familiar with XSN, some will invest in it, others won't, but whoever transacts with it, will make XSN masternodes profit

[Anonymous No.14717378]

>>14717138
bittrex never required me ID in 2017

[Anonymous No.14717782]

>>14717378
They started implementing mandatory KYC in late 2017. I got screwed by it and a lot of others did too. During that time, a lot of accounts with basic KYC had their verification level reset. This froze withdrawals for many, who had to now re-verify. Their verification system coincidentally failed to reinstate basic KYC for nearly everyone that had it before. Numerous customers opened support tickets to try and get it fixed. Bittrex support would take weeks to respond and their solution was basically "it's out of our hands. just submit your ID and do enhanced verification".
It was shady as fuck, which is sad to say even now because Bittrex was a decent exchange at one point in time.

[Anonymous No.14717962]

LOL i remember when I bought amp *remember amp????* way back in the day and then transferred it to trex only to get fucked in the ass by kyc. Surveillance capitalism at its finest. If this DEX is half as good as you retards tell me it is, I am sold. Otherwise fuck off

[Anonymous No.14718141]

> Alt coin capitulation is here
> Alts coins are being reset
> 1000’s of useless Shitcoins are going to be purged

Stakenet is going to be one the few that survives this purge and will climb the ranks. It has multiple products that ensure that like the DEX and the fact that it will be the defacto Lightning Network for all LN assets including Bitcoin. XSN itself doesn’t need usage to survive as long as LN grows which it is then XSN will reap the rewards from that. It’s genius when you actually break it all down and look at the overall picture really

[Anonymous No.14718477]

>>14716513
If you really looking for answers do yourself a favour and go to their discord. The Devs always there answering questions. Don't trust biztards.

[Anonymous No.14718688]

>>14718141
The mix of good features and a multi-faceted approach towards usage should build enough momentum to grow the network. The DEX Aggregator alone has powerful potential and it could be a win for everyone involved.

[Anonymous No.14718769]

first thing i see after logging into the exchange.

[Anonymous No.14718979]

will the number of coins required to host a masternode ever reduce as the value rises, or will it always be 15k coins?
i think the number required should be pinned to USD value, or some day nobody will be able to afford to buy one, and masternodes will gradually disappear as people cash out due to rising value.
1,500USD is too much btw, i'd pay a grand, but i think maybe 500 would be better. but like seemingly everything else this coin is apparently losing value both long-term and currently, so maybe soon i'll have my very own dying shitcoin masternode.

[Anonymous No.14719199]

No the collateral amount will never change and if people start breaking MN's then the MN ROI will increase which will just make them more attractive so it will always balance itself out

[Anonymous No.14719689]

sooo, for how long has it been losing money approximately? what's the dev team like?

[Anonymous No.14719906]

https://www.livecoin.net/en/trading/XSN_ETH
buy order book is weak as hell. like 4ETH in its entirety. sell side is 27 ETH worth.
15,000 XSN at 0.00004055ETH would buy a masternode for 0.60ETH, and there's almost no support all the way down to that price. sensible money is setting orders around there and forgetting/crossing fingers for a couple of months/years.

[Anonymous No.14719942]

>>14706249
>Trustless MN hosting services payable directly in XSN. Run several MNs while your computer is off and receive a 16% annual ROI in XSN
Wtf? How?

[Anonymous No.14720085]

>>14719906
Why would you trade XSN/ETH? XSN/BTC is where volume is but right now the entire Alt market is dying so might be able to get some very cheap

[Anonymous No.14720166]

Stop this shill becouse this have no sense! Release wallet first! XSN down becouse BTC up. Oh, no sorry, XSN down becouse BTC down. Release prodcut first!

[Anonymous No.14720170]

>>14720085
i mean obv they'll both approximately equalise in value, but i guess more panicking noobs are likely to dump into my order there. that and the sheer convenience of not having to change eth to btc.
i think it'll continue to decrease in value like it has for a long time, if i can pick some up that cheaply though it might make decent profit in a few years time.

[Anonymous No.14720278]

>>14720166
Wallet is public test right now for Lightning Swaps you can go and download it if you want so what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.14720293]

>>14720278
This. Got myself a wallet yesterday and 15000 xsn for a MN.

[Anonymous No.14720314]

>>14720293
I'm working my way up to a second MN right now, first one has been running for a few weeks now getting nice rewards and at these prices it almost feels like it would be rude not to buy as much I can get while it's so low

[Anonymous No.14720329]

>>14718141
>XSN itself doesn’t need usage to survive as long as LN
can you explain me why, please?

[Anonymous No.14720345]

>>14706881
Oh, it's just another DPOS with lightning swap ability. Instead they call their delegates merchants and their DPOS TPOS.

[Anonymous No.14720347]

>>14719199
>if people start breaking MN's then the MN ROI will increase
what is the meaning of ''will start breacking masternodes'' ?

[Anonymous No.14720357]

>>14720329
Go ask the Devs fag.

Stop spoonfeeding him already.

[Anonymous No.14720387]

>>14720329
Because the tech they have built and what they are doing with their masternodes will for the backbone for LN and all LN assets BTC included. As long as traffic is flowing through LN then the MN’s will earn fees from routing the traffic and providing liquidity within the channels.

[Anonymous No.14720391]

>>14706506
This. /Thread

[Anonymous No.14720400]

>>14720345
TPoS is nothing like DPoS and is far more decentralised

[Anonymous No.14720427]

>>14720347
I think he means if people start selling their MN’s to cash out then the amount of MN’s will go down which means the ROI goes up making them more profitable as there are less MN’s competing for rewards

[Anonymous No.14720486]

>>14720387
Funny you should mention Lightning adoption as I was just reading a story about a company has now set up lightning channels to buy goods from amazon, starbucks and other places so if this is XSN's focus to provide a backbone for lightning then it could prove to be very lucrative in the long term

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-startup-brings-lightning-network-payments-to-amazon-whole-foods

[Anonymous No.14720589]

>>14720345
DPOS is centralized TPOS less centralized as I have understood, but higher IQs anons could explain better

[Anonymous No.14720711]

>>14720400
>TPoS is nothing like DPoS and is far more decentralised
which is the mechanism? could you explain please, I can't understand it very well

[Anonymous No.14720728]

>>14720387
>As long as traffic is flowing through LN then the MN’s will earn fees from routing the traffic and providing
exscuse me but I don't think lighting network hopes to relay on XSN to grown

[Anonymous No.14720871]

>>14720728
You have a lot of good questions anon, but i think that the best people to answer you are Stakenet devs. I see a lot of misinformation in some people's answers here. I promise you that you won't have any more questions after talking to them, they are like magicians.

[Anonymous No.14720918]

>>14720711
With DPOS your have to rely on delegates for your stake. TPOS is trustless offline staking. Nobody can interfer, not even the tpos merchant

[Anonymous No.14721142]

>>14720711
Look here anon

https://medium.com/stakenet/cold-staking-tpos-vs-lpos-vs-dpos-ebeef4f71c48

[Anonymous No.14721617]

xsn is going to change everything

[Anonymous No.14721854]

lads i have been talking with our gods loops, cryptocobain and angelo, this is alts capitulation and bottom is very close

there is a 99.999% chance you will be selling this shitcoin or any other one at a 5x + within months, just market buy whatever including this xsn shit because of lightning network alone it will pump

enjoy the free fucking dolars

[Anonymous No.14722356]

>>14721854

lol how do you know jordan? xD

[Anonymous No.14722385]

>>14704495
I'm interested but the name is really bad.

[Anonymous No.14722401]

>>14718477
Discord is shit is there a telegram

[Anonymous No.14723193]

>>14722385
Could be better but if you make your decision on name alone that’s dumb af. Maybe not in an alt bull like 2017 but things have changed and the market matured

[Anonymous No.14723533]

>>14722401
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[Anonymous No.14724451]

>>14722401
They are also active on TG