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14622744 No.14622744 [Reply] [Original]

Trump just called out the Federal Reserve. Pray he doesn't die anons. Anyone with at least room temperature IQ can understand why the Fed is bad, but how will this relationship affect crypto?

>Fed retaliates and inflates a lot
>Money becomes worthless
>Cash out

or

>Fed forced to be backed by gold
>Money becomes valued
>Crypto becomes worthless

Who ya got?

>> No.14622799

>>14622744

That's the beauty of it. The mechanics of government cannot be halted. They always steer toward collapse. This collapse is coming and it will be coming through the Federal Reserve in the form of hyperinflation. It always comes from the money printers.

What Trump is doing is shifting the blame early, making the people see it as their enemy. Even the rampant Lefties will have to admit they were on the wrong side once the Fed starts issuing 1 trillion USD currency units.

>> No.14622822

>>14622744
We're going to see negative interest rates by 2020. There's little to no political risk as most americans don't have any savings, and mostly complain they can't get loans easy enough, which will be accelerated under a negative rate scheme.

>> No.14622831

>>14622799
The question is when does it happen though

>> No.14622845

>>14622799
I'm denouncing my U.S. citizenship and moving to Japan/New Zealand with my LINKIES if the fed keeps this shit up.

>> No.14622857

>>14622845
I’m thinking about the same thing with Switzerland/Malta/andorra

>> No.14622903

>>14622845
Might do this with Denmark

>> No.14622909

imagine how devauled the dollar will be when the next democrat gets in
>yang's $1000 a month
>Elizy warren's reparations
>bernie sanders free college

The democrats need to go after Jeff Dickhead Benzos. Amazon is one of america's largest employers and Jeff is fucking all his employees over so he can get money to go to space and imitate elon musk.

Trump is correct when he stated in 2016 "we need to figure out what the hell is going on" literally the best educated in the country are trash at running government.

Crypto > the dollar

>> No.14623055

Trump wants the fed to lower interest rates and print more money. Basically kick the can down the road and keep this house of cards standing so he can get reelected.

He is a fucking idiot and so are you if you think he wants anything other than the fed to make him look good.

>> No.14623096

>>14622845
How does that work actually?
If you renounced your US citizenship in Japan, would they be able to deport you? I imagine it's not that simple, as otherwise Mexicans would do that.

>> No.14623099

>>14622909
>literally the best educated in the country are trash at running government.
Kek, you really think that people with the best education are going into government jobs that pay $50k a year or going to Silicon Valley to make $300k a year? The people in our government are not the cream of the crop anon

>> No.14623111

>>14623055
You can project short term politics onto it, which you should take that shit to /pol/ for. Long term the US needs the ability to build ships and subs which has been degraded long term. The economy will get juiced like no ones business because all parts of the government agree we need MilComplex heavy manufacturing to face off against China. Don't worry about some super collapse in the short term, but the problem is going to get kicked down the road (10 years) at a multiple unseen before.

>> No.14623125

>>14623096
You need the ability to reside wherever your new residence is. You have to denounce your citizenship infront of an agent of the US Gov, typically an embassy official.

>> No.14623128

>>14622744
Moon soon, dir?

>> No.14623252

>>14623111
No projection required. He literally said on twitter he wants more money printed and pumped into the system. Anyone with a brain knows that another round of QE is going to keep pumping the stock market. Now ask yourself why he would want that and why he said it's "too soon" to raise rates?

>> No.14623354

>>14623252
Trump literally never uses hyperbole, exaggeration, or other rhetorical techniques like that, so you’re in the clear.

>> No.14623365

>>14623252
Because we're facing off against China.
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1144622157684772864

>> No.14623393

>>14623354
Is this where you tell me "4d chess" and "trust the plan"? Mouthbreathing boomer.

>> No.14623475

>>14623096
There's a bunch of UN conventions about the rights "stateless individuals," they jack off over this shit. You'll most likely be able to claim something analogous to asylum, with a bunch of caveats (assuming the host country cares what the UN thinks).

>> No.14623493

>>14622903
you'll pay like 80% or something ridiculous in taxes

>> No.14623497
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>>14622744
The Trump admin will administer a USA blockchain to facilitate complete and transparent accounting.

>> No.14623513

>>14622822
Checked. How do I profit from this?

>> No.14623520

>>14622799
checked
THIS

Timing and public perception is everything.

>> No.14623525

>>14622744
Digits confirm that Trump is based and will win 2020 (screenshot this)

The Fed will back down and lower rates in order to keep yhe party going

>> No.14623579

>>14622799
Checked. He is shifting the blame early just in case the Fed nukes everything. Not the first time he has called attention to the money printer's inefficiencies either. Remember that Trump studied economics and therefore he is well aware of the Fed but disrupting that power structure before getting everything else lined up would be an extremely high risk play. As far as his long term goals, his suggested picks for Fed like Stephen Moore and Judy Shelton speak volumes. If there is a breakdown in the near term he most likely has a contingency plan to nationalize the Fed and eliminate other parasitic institutions in our government. In the mean time, our food/energy production is insulating us from the full brunt of trade woes while our competitors capitulate one by one. The question is, does he have plans for a US dollar revaluation once all new trade agreements have been put into place? Surely BTC will be forcing the hand of traditional governments to figure out their policy sooner or later, no?

>> No.14623595

OP you brainlet.
Trump is bullying the fed to create more inflation and devalue the dollar.

>> No.14623625

>>14623513
If you can get near window cost loans and use those to buy foreign companies, you basically get paid to take the loan,and paid by company revenues. This is what the guy from SoftBank did with Sprint. BOJ neg rate window and used the money to buy an American company where interest rates were positive.

>> No.14623652

>>14623579
he's just protecting himself if the stock market crashes to blame it all on the fed. he's training the populus to blame the fed instead of him.

>> No.14623656

>>14623513
Take out a loan and put it in crypto and get paid for it

>> No.14623669

>>14623625
based financial analyst insight

>> No.14623677

>>14622909
Nah, entrepreneurs are the only ones making the pie bigger

People study bullshit in college and then hope for a risk-free salary rather than creating shit to advance society by producing more stuff for everyone

Thus, the pie stays the same size.

Naturally, winners will always get more and more of the pie, but the fed prints more money and gives it to people.who don't produce anything. New dollars are always more valuable for the people who get them first- thus the people closest to the newly printed money use it buy more and more of the pie

The money being printed by the fed is just purchasing power stolen from the working class

Bezos may have a big piece of the pie but he also made it bigger and obviously didn't capture of all that value for himself

Meanwhile, those closest to the fed are gaining more and more of the pie without actually contributing to society- nor do they risk anything. Compare to bezos, who not only increases the size of the pie but undertakes personal risk to do so. He risks his own wealth to make the pie bigger for us all so it's fair for him to have a big piece of the value he creates imo

It's the rent seekers who 1. Risk nothing 2. Create nothing and 3. Benefit at everyone else's expense that we need to stop

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>>14623652
Because no matter who is president, the booms and busts are the Fed's fault.

The extent to which a President bends the knee to the Fed, is the extent to which he also shoulders the blame.

Trump ain't bowing to shit.

>> No.14623755

>>14622744
He will bitch about it on Twitter, his goldbug Fed nominee will withdraw themselves, then leave office two Januaries from now.

Do you really not understand this administration? Or the US political situation?

>> No.14623759

>>14623724
based and jacksonpilled

>> No.14623780

>>14623625
This.

>>14623677
Dubs confirm

***
When the EU collapses in October (DB, Draghi, Farage, Merkel, >muh rapefugees), markets will soar in the U.S.

The money flees Europe just like WWI and WWII. Where can the money go? Argentina? Turkey? Japan? China?

The money will pour into the DOW

>> No.14623783

>>14623625
How can I get in position to benefit from this? My credit is fucked.

I have like 70k in debt right now

>> No.14623795

>>14623783
you're dead on arrival. just pay off your debt that's all you can do.

>> No.14623811

>>14623625
I'm just a normie guy. Is this available to me? And when should I do this? Now or wait until neg rates are a go?

>> No.14623814

>>14623783
Well, start making a regular revenue now, and refinance that debt in a year. That should help.

>> No.14623827

>>14622744
Is it possible to get him to tweet about link or something and make the price go up? How do you get him to do it?

>> No.14623834

>>14623811
exim is supposed to have SMB support programs, which should give you access to near window rates.

https://www.exim.gov

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>>14622744
careful now Trump, messing with the federal reserve is probably what Kennedy got shot over

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14623843

Trump is just a blowhard idiot who wants low interest rates so that he and his buddies can profit from them. He isn't your fucking messiah come to overthrow the banking system to liberate you from your oppressors. He's just a greedy, corrupt businessman and you're interpreting his flailing in the pursuit of short-term profits for himself and his cronies the way that people interpret tea leaves and coin flips.

>> No.14623851

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by INFLATION, then by DEFLATION, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.... I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

>> No.14623853

>>14623493
JUST

>> No.14623854

>>14623795
If you assume we're heading for an inflationary collapse, him paying off his debt is literally the worst move possible. Like, there literally isn't a worse use of your money.

>> No.14623864

>>14623365
Based on the people in defense/aerospace I have spoken to it seems that these kind of sellouts have been happening for decades. In some cases it may be obsolete technology but there are still other cases where someone stops and asks "Guys, why the hell are we giving away this program to China?" Because everyone knows they are going to steal and rip off all of the technology they can. But higher ups overrule these concerns. I am worried that we may have already leaked too much in telecom, defense, electronics, etc. I fucking hate these other parasites that cannot innovate for themselves. America should come first for once. Right now our middle class is almost extinct.
>>14623497
This would be a fucking Godsend because it would completely BTFO anyone using corrupt means to compete. You just know that everyone is cooking books here or there, but places like China are almost certainly the worst offenders. It would be like an invisible hand guiding us back to a meritocracy. I sincerely hope it is possible with to make things more transparent while guaranteeing the protection of proprietary information using encryption.

>> No.14623867

>>14623677
checked and this. Bitcoin was specifically made as a fuck you to this system, and it's success is something to behold.

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>>14623843
cope

>> No.14623892

Hm

I have some crypto though

If I could use it as collateral for a negative rate loan, that would be great, but the only way I can see being able to do that would be to sell it for real estate or something and use *that* as collateral to buy crypto... But I want extra crypto, not extra real estate.

I guess extra real estate is better than nothing. If it provides income, that could be good, so long as as I don't buy at the top of the market, which is a possibility since negative rates means more loans available for buying real estate.

>> No.14623905

>>14623854
paying off your debt is always the best use of your money whether you're on the gold standard or zimbabwe. The system will always find a way to fuck over those in debt. The banks always win.

>> No.14623911

>>14623055
Someone who understands politics on this board! Kudos, Anon!

>> No.14623913

>>14623780
There's been already a millionaire flight report from germany ~2 years ago. Smart money already left the game.

However i wouldn't bet on $ spiking. The money will go where people can go. If you can't immigrate to US, you go to another country and then you will get their currency because that's what you need to setup shop in your new home. Outside of that most will be anyway stored in investments.

>> No.14623916

>>14623724
holy smokes
please tell me everyone here isn't that economically illiterate

>> No.14623956

>>14623864
Yes, and if you cut through the rhetoric, you'll see most higher up dems now aligned with the admin on facing off against China with this. That guy who I linked to is a leftie, but hits it pretty solid that the Clinton era push for MA consolidation did long term damage.

>> No.14623977

>>14622845
Dont forget to pay the fee for denouncing citizenship goy!

>> No.14624011

>>14623913
I didn’t say the US$ would spike. I said the DOW would rise as the tide of foreign money buys blackrock and vanguard ETFs en masse

Imagine an earthquake in Berlin and ripples rolling out across the world. That quake is the Green Revolution overtaking Germany and plunging the country into chaos. I dunno what gives but Germany really seings back and forth between total autist order and Hun chaos.

Basically, we are living through the fall of Rome (Washington) and buying crypto is the same as filling a jar with Roman coins and sinking it in the swamp out back of your estate. You hope the commies won’t be able to seize and decrypt your wallet when income taxes surge to 80% post-Trump

>> No.14624021

The U.S. is fucked, aren't we?

Seriously, on a scale of 1-10, how high are we on the China's Next Meal index? I unironically say 8.

>> No.14624075

>>14624021
China doesn't have nearly the military force projection nor economic capability that the US has.

They are a paper tiger and anyone who tells you otherwise is clueless. Play a simple game of count the aircraft carriers, will ya?

>> No.14624083

>>14623835
Trump is protected by both God and Future Technology. But even if you are right and he does get killed, that pretty much guarantees whites chimp out and we see a collapse unlike anything the US has faced before. Trump was elected as a final ultimatum for a fair and peaceful solution. Even if he fails he at least bought this country a few more years that it wouldn't have had otherwise. If he dies prematurely while in office then all bets are off. Every day will become DOTR until the tree of liberty has been refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. I am talking about minecraft of course.

>> No.14624086

>>14624075
>aircraft carriers mattering in the age of hyper-sonic missile warfare that sinks them in a matter of minutes
Fuck off, boomer.

>> No.14624143

>>14624086
Cope

China is a paper tiger, their troops can't even fight Africans without deserting

>> No.14624180

>>14624021
China will be the new financial capital of the world by 2035.

U.S. still has another six years. After Trump, things fall apart. Income and real estate taxes go sky high, negative interest rates do nothing to stimulate the economy because no one has any opportunity worth investing in, STDs out of control (low grade syphilis and gono pandemics), collapse of the corn and wheat monocrop agriculture devastates flyover economy (Dust Bowl 2.0), water wars / race wars in Cali and Central America

. . . I can go on but you get the big picture

>> No.14624183

>>14623916
Welcome to /biz/. Now get to shilling your penny stock/crypto scam coin.

>> No.14624248

>>14624075
>>14624143
China isn't trying to win via military takeover, they have been stealing technology to compete while buying up stakes in US companies across all sectors. Our government has turned a blind eye to this in exchange for a piece of the pie: see Biden's son taking in billions for private equity for just one example. Our elites seem to think they can impose controls over us through hate speech and tech censorship not unlike what China has already been doing with a social credit system. What happens if something like 5G comes along and sterilizes an entire generation of Americans? Then China wins without firing a single shot. Even if 5G doesn't turn out as bad as it sounds all the other pieces are in place to prevent new families from forming under millennials and zoomers. Since our centralized command economy under the Fed caters to infinite growth this can only be solved with further mass immigration which suffocates American culture and sows further division among rising demographic pools.

>> No.14624366

>>14624183
says the faggot who never invested in crypto and wishes he did

>> No.14624386

>>14622845
Didn't New Zealand ban guns and other human rights

>> No.14624404

>>14624248
As I said, by 2035 China is the center of the world - the Middle Kingdom - in terms of IQ, industry, and finance.

U.S. is a dumping ground for other overpopulated countries - started with England and going on ever since

>> No.14624448

>>14623595
this
trump is being a bigger kike than the fed kikes themselves lmao
>based trump fights the fed haha!
you are all fucking morons with 0 understanding of monetary policies, enjoy your hyperinflation you stupid amrifats

>> No.14624483

>>14624011
>I dunno what gives but Germany really seings back and forth between total autist order and Hun chaos.

Strength and weakness of the center is a problem that's plagued the region for thousands of years.

>> No.14624505

>>14623677
flag waving capitalist faggot. stop sucking bezos balls you poor nigger

>> No.14624524

>>14624248
Bit offtopic but
> 5G comes along and sterilizes an entire generation of Americans
might be actually somewhat feasible. I've dealt with farm animal fertility recently and found studies how radio towers on the farm negatively affected it. Then again you can of course just keep going longer for a result. What's more funky is it also affects the gender ratio because male&female swimmers are somewhat different and thus not equally affected.

>> No.14624531

>>14624180
Definitely adding this to my cringe compilation, though. China's gonna be a poor backwater that could potentially be up-and-coming by 2035.

>> No.14624564

>>14623834
Can an individual use the exim bank? And what's SMB?

>> No.14624602

>>14624524
link to studies?

>> No.14624778

No matter what anyone says, if we get fucked here in America the rest of the world is going to feel it way worse. We can basically be self sufficient, don’t worry boys. As far as the guy who said to pay off debts, that’s actually stupid. You want to buy assets right now and say you’ll pay it back later when the dollar is worth less

>> No.14624800

>>14622799
Trump wants low rates
Fed lowers rates
Low rates cause dept (especially bad dept) to skyrocket, asset prices to inflate while forcing people to "invest" in risky, over-inflated markets because their savings evaporate through inflation.
Do you understand that the money supply is inflated when dept is created (money is literally created out of nothing on a computer when you take out a loan)?
Explain to me how Trump is the good guy here.

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>>14624083
whites will chimp out after Trump wins in 2020 anyway. the left extremists have learned nothing from 2016 and are proving to be more and more batshit insane for every day.

>> No.14624860

>>14624564
Individual: Uh maybe, not if you don't have exports.
SMB: Small to Medium sized Business

>> No.14624889

>>14624602
Just re-checked, it was german, if you can read it it's "Fruchtbarkeitstörung bei Rindern und Schweinen, Stengl, Altenweger" 2014
Another one is Buchner et al. 2009 - Study with 1200 pigs.

I can see if i find links if you can speak german. Otherwise would have to see if they also published in english. Not really out of norm but not guaranteed either.

>> No.14624972

>>14624800
We’re in the end game stage of U.S. monopolar moment. Trump has to take rates negative. He can’t fight the credit super cycle.

>>14624838
Wait until 2024, 2028, 2032, and finally 2034. Game over in a decade. The rogue wave of U.S. upheaval.

No coincidence that the Cali fault line is starting to act up.

>> No.14625029

>>14624972
I'm still not clear on where this is all going. The choices seem to be: hyperinflation or the US (and all major economies, since they're all doing the same crap) defaulting on its dept.
Seems to me that default is more likely and will lead to the USD being abandoned in favor of a new currency. But what will this transition period actually look like?

>> No.14625048

>>14624889
Can't speak German :( will have to see if I can find a translation

>> No.14625077

>>14625029
Default is a sharp, acute pain. No way.

Why suffer an acute crisis when you could slowly sink deeper and deeper into a lower and lower rate environment?

After all, once you’re rolling into negative rate debt (((you’re basically defaulting already)))

>> No.14625162

>>14625077
Maybe.. but I can see them pushing a "we have no choice" narrative once things get bad enough.

If we're heading for hyperinflation, and we could be totally sure it's going to happen in the next decade, is there any reason not to take out large, fixed rate, 30 year loans to put into assets that will increase in value while your dept's value fades to nothing?

>> No.14625274

>>14625162
Hey, you get it anon.

>> No.14625308

>>14622845
I'm probably going to do that within the next 10 years if things dont change in this country. i want access to affordable healthcare and education and right now canada seems to have that figured out so that's where i'm going. I'm working on getting a work visa there now and that will help when i finally apply for citizenship.

>> No.14625427

>>14625162
private debt could be handled differently. There are historical examples of people losing their shit but staying in debt.

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>>14624972
I wanna know is how USA will deal with the 100s of thousands of immigrants coming in through mexico. trump is at least coming up with ideas while the left is just saying that a wall is immoral and calling the detainment centers "concentration camps". i've heard left politicians promising free health care to the immigrants, which means only more will show up. people are even coming from africa. they are economical immigrants, not refugees, but many pretend they are refugees.

i know trump will win and i know the left will strike the first blow if civil war comes. question is if things can be fixed.

also buy amazon stocks, it's good business.

>> No.14625901

>>14624860
I have an s Corp but I just work with domestic data. No goods or services involved.

>> No.14626072

>>14625308
enjoy your 2 year wait times for critical problems. also unless you're a nigger you won't receive care for anything

>> No.14626575

>>14626072
burger cope

>> No.14626847

>>14625814
What is a refugee to you?
These people will die if they stay where they are, to me, that's a refugee at the same time as an economic migrant, they're not actually different.
If you're too poor or feel threatened to care about other people's lives, fine, I get it. Wanting to protect your country is reasonable. But nobody is stupid enough to go to the USA unless they have no choice.

>>14626072
Holy shit the cope. You've never actually been to a civilized country, I see. Here's how it goes:
1) go to the doctor.
2) get treated.
3) still pay less taxes than the USA.
But you are too cowardly for that, just keep begging your overlords to let you pay them thousands for a bandage.

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>>14626847
>These people will die if they stay where they are
that's the misconception, these are somewhat wealthy africans that can afford to fly to south america and then journey through mexico, which is a pretty safe and beautiful country, all based on a lie that they are welcome into USA. then they wander through the desert and die.

refugees to me are people fleeing from something that threaten their lives, not people that seek a better life (economic migrants). vox even found people in the caravan saying they "miss playstation" as a reason (was deported from US before)
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/24/18010340/caravan-trump-border-honduras-mexico

by pretending everybody is welcome you are hurting those that actually need help. resources are not unlimited and economic migrants are pushing away those that actually need help.

sometimes you have to wonder if the left are trying to win votes in USA or outside of USA. people are sick or homeless in USA, maybe fix local problems before trying to fix the world

>> No.14627186

>>14626847
wrong

>> No.14627324

>>14626847
quit lying. Hospitals are still privatized for profit and run on skeleton crews. You got people with broken bones waiting hours. Not to mention anything not immediately critical like skin cancer screening can be okay you can come in a month to us. Aftercare is same shit. Absolute minimum while they report record income and raise salaries for the ceo's. Social healthcare is a scam like anything else. If it wouldn't be a scam they wouldn't need to make it mandatory.

If you want actual good treatment you still got to pay private. I.e. it cut's 1 month wait time down to this week.

Other problems im too lazy to cover: rigged pricing & unnecessary procedures to retain budget. I could write a whole essay here cause i was part of the system.

>> No.14627387

>>14626847
Do you think the US is a post-scarcity society? Or is it that you don't care about the well-being of Americans?

>> No.14627412

>>14622744
dont mind me just posting in a thinly veiled pol thread before it gets deleted

>> No.14627413

>>14622845
I moved to Greece and bought myself a nice plot of land in Mykonos. The kikes can eat my ass and taste my shit!

>> No.14627432

>>14622845
based and abandoning the US-pilled

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>>14622744

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14627954

Doomers are losers that think theyre smart but are never correct about anything.

Protip: get a job, put your money into American Equity, avoid yieldless commodities

>> No.14627984

>>14624386
Yes we did so fuck off and stay out American fuckwits

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>>14627954
>Doomers are losers
Indeed they are

>> No.14628125

>>14623652
no, he's shining light on the FED and educating people on the realities of life.

>> No.14628156

>>14623755
cope harder, faggot. trump is woke to the FED question and his admin is BULLISH AS FUCK on crypto

>> No.14628174

>>14623854
I understand what you are trying to say but >>14623905 is correct here. The debt is a weight. Especially this bad debt.

>> No.14628366
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>>14628156

>> No.14628541

>>14627774
Lucky triple 7s!

>>14625162
>/biz/ starts to understand how the (((leverage))) game is meant to be played!

>> No.14628547

>>14622744
Why the fuck would crypto become worthless? This would be a win win situation for any crypto holder.

>> No.14628712

>>14627413
what the price range in this area?

>> No.14628816
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Remember drumpf, you mess with the fed.

You get it in the head!

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>>14628816
Dont count your sheckles too soon Shillomo.