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>be bitcoin maximalist
>LN network finally ready to use
>Go to store
>"LN accepted here"
>Order a double s()y latte with extra cream
>"that'll be 0.0009 BTC"
>Oh it looks like bitcoin fees are kinda high ($35)
>i'll just fund a channel to purchase that latte
>oh no. looks like i have to do an actual on-chain tx to fund that channel
>crap there goes $35
>tfw paid $35 for a coffee
God i love LN.

>> No.14457743

Yeah I'm just gonna keep DCAing anyway

>> No.14457800

>>14457743
You know eventually they will have to raise the blocksize right? Theres no way around it anymore. They fooled everyone with LN for about 2 years but it didn't catch on. They can't keep hiding behind the "It's not finished yet" excuse forever.

>> No.14457923

>>14457718
LINK TO $35 EOD

>> No.14458120

>>14457718
If you want to sell coffee with crypto right now the best choice is doge by a wide margin.

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>>14457718
>buy ticket out of the satanist global jew rat race
>spend it on coffee

how about waiting 10 years and buying large tracts of land, multiple wives, commercial fusion reactors, and molecular 3d printing machines instead

hm imagine

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>>14458120
It's called BitcoinSV.

Instant transfer, subcent fees. Network impossible to congest. Still PoW blockchain operates the same way as the Bitcoin of 2010

>> No.14458878

>>14458451
Doge is a clone of original Bitcoin that has been working reliably and without central control for almost a decade. It has an infinite supply which makes it suitable as an everyday spending currency. BSV is nonsense data storage protocol that sacrifices the efficiency of traditional storage for no gain.
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/activeaddresses-bsv-doge.html

>> No.14458969

>>14458878
This. BSV is mostly a vaporware scam with useless transaction spam like WeatherSV presented as the flagship of the project. Even Doge is superior.

>BUT MUH MONEYBOTTOM!!!!
Enjoy being tracked by Calvin's aides 24/7.

>> No.14459123

>>14458969
>even Doge
The only relevant tokens are BTC and DOGE. All you need for smart contracts are signed messages and none of the computation belongs on the chain.

>> No.14459228

>>14457718
BTC savings
NANO everyday spending

>> No.14459644
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>>14458878
Doge doesn't have instant transactions making it useless for retail payments. Coupled with an infinite supply of coins, you have yourself a mighty shitcoin.

Nice distraction though.

>> No.14459701

Unbelievable that retards are still having this discussion. If you want to support the vision of the original whitepaper just use BCH and stfu

>> No.14459709

>>14457718
topkek

>> No.14460046

>>14459644
Just as instant if you use 0 confirmations but with DOGE your payment is completely confirmed within a minute.

>> No.14460277 [DELETED] 

>>14459123
Doge has the most normie-friendly appear. Fast and deregulated too. I sincerely wish the memecoin king was adopted more.

>> No.14460359

>>14459123
Doge has the most normie-friendly appeal. Fast and deregulated too. I sincerely wish the memecoin king had more adoption.

>> No.14460377
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NANO $1000 EOY

>> No.14460454

>>14457718
just use a credit card lmao
its a STORE OF VALU!!

>> No.14460511

>>14457800
nah...i think we've all been wrong and I think btc has been unironically right. I'm saying this as a former bch supporter.
Eventually a big player like FB or CashApp or someone else is going to get "payment processor" dominance. their wallet will simply make arrangements with all online wallets (coinbase, gemini, etc) and you will spend fiat in shops and btc will be deducted from your account.

This will work because the settlement from exchange to CashApp or whowever will bundle everything in regularly hourly transactions or whatever...so all customer purchases from CashApp will get settledup once an hour...so the $20 txn fee will be amortized over 100K CashApp coffee transactions.

>> No.14460583

>>14457800
raising block size = centralization to biggest miners. BTC will always put decentralization and trustlessness over scaling. otherwise what's the fucking point