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I was reading the guide on Elliptic Curve Cryptography and realized something:
I have no idea what the fuck I'm reading.

Where do I start with mathematics if I'd like to create meaningful applications/tokens in crypto using proper cryptographic methods? XMR is buildin their 2nd layer protocol and I want to make some Monero tokens.

>> No.14441376

>>14441277
isn't monero the only truly untraceable crypto?

>> No.14441427

>>14441376
It and its forks, yes.
They're building a second layer so you can effectively create tokens that are completely anonymously traded and distributed. They aren't fungible, though, so it's not completely analagous to Ethereum. XMR doesn't want any ICOs. In fact, they said "There will be no ICOs"

>> No.14442495

>>14441277
do you have a degree? If not you need to start reading basic Analysis and Algebra textbooks first.

>> No.14443240

>>14441277
1) How much computer science do you know? That's more relevant.

2) Cryptography uses less math than you might think. I'm pretty sure you could understand/write bitcoin with just a knowledge of high school math.

>Obviously, developing the SHA-256 encryption would require a lot more knowledge, but the people who wrote bitcoin just used the already-developed function.

3) What exactly do you want to do?

>Also,
>asking /biz/ about anything advanced

>>14441376
No. So far as I understand, ZCash is untraceable too. And maybe other currencies which aren't as well known.

>> No.14443631

You need years of heavy math work to understand cryptography in depth.
Protip: there's other people who already do, so you don't have to.

>> No.14443672

>>14441277
Lots of retards in this thread...

Start with discrete math (most important) and Calculus 1-3. Then you'll be ready to approach a lot of cryptography. It's all just discrete math.

>> No.14443826

>>14441376
KMD

>> No.14444213

https://web.getmonero.org/library/

>Zero to Monero
>A comprehensive conceptual (and technical) explanation of Monero.
We endeavor to teach anyone who knows basic algebra and simple computer science concepts like the ‘bit representation’ of a number not only how Monero works at a deep and comprehensive level, but also how useful and beautiful cryptography can be.

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14444808

>>14443672
Calculus is literally irrelevant. Learn abstract algebra, and some number theory.

For advanced cryptography, some group theory could be helpful

.t mathematician

>> No.14445760

>>14441376
there is one thats better but im not sure how much time the devs actually allocate to it.
heavy darkweb stuff.

not my interest.
monero is good enough for anything even remotely close to acceptable.

even journos in Iran/China/Shitholeistan would be safe with monero.
no need to dig through a sewer main for a gem.