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LCI buyers see option 1 edition

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Previously on SMG:
>>14330051

>> No.14339052

VTSAX

BUY dudes

>> No.14339063

>>14339027
Threadly reminder until it gets added to the OP: there is an IRC channel for real-time stockposting: #/smg/ on Rizon

>> No.14339074

>>14339052
Are you the anon who just questioned me, VTWAX? VTWAX is every company on the planet. But I am swapping out $28k in my taxable brokerage for something with greater growth prospects. QQQ? Growth mutual? AMD?

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>>14339063
I put it in the OP two or three threads ago but another poster took it out (but left my other changes)

>> No.14339100
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Fuck blunpf

>> No.14339146

By the way is anyone else getting hammered on the Slack IPO? I am already down 11%

>> No.14339172

>>14339074
>VTWAX is every company on the planet
'no'

>>14339146
nah

>> No.14339182

I am currently maxing 401k, roth ira, and and extra $15000 every year in my individual account. Been doing this for the past 2 years. How much longer until I don't have to work ever again?

>> No.14339219

>>14339172
Excellent analysis, braniac

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14339291

thinking about shorting the nasdaq. thinking that might be something to do.

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Friendly reminder :)

>> No.14339326

>>14339182
How long do you plan on living?

>>14339100
>% of inversions
???

>> No.14339349

>>14339326
idk kind of want to commit suicide once I hit 40 but maybe I'll change my mind, turning 26 soon

>> No.14339350

>>14339146
Yeah, I’m down $0.89 on my one share

I think I have to stop spreading myself so thin, I have too many holdings and it’s making it hard to trim when we’re so overbought.

>> No.14339357

>>14339098
Well shit

>> No.14339376

>>14339326
>>% of inversions
>???
it lists the yields considered, and shows what % of all the pairs are inverted (duration-directional)

>>14339312
it's nutty that you could have waited 120+ years, invested your $1 in bitcoin in 2009/2010, and outperformed that entire chart by a huge margin in under a decade with a non-productive asset (if you sold the top)

>> No.14339392

>>14339291
It isn’t.

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>>14339063
>>14339098
SMGs council rules that as per long standing tradition of SMG ignoring these types of extratreadicular social places there can be no IRC in thread until the IRC has proved its worth or atleast gained enough regulars to warrant inclusion into OP.

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>>14339349
You’ll absolutely change your mind, unless you get some sort of really painful cancer and get cucked and end up paying shit tons of alimony, and your dick falls off, and trump manages to irreversibly fuck up the economy, followed by a dem who ends up irreversibly fucking up everything that isnt the economy.

Oh, and maybe if Japan, eu, us, etc really collapse like a house of cards in a global economic meltdown, when the boomers finally die and leave us to pay their debts.

Just take it one day at a time fren.

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>>14339392
I think it is.

>> No.14339416

>>14339394
Sounds sensible.

Does the smg irc have a dlcc bot yet?

>> No.14339425

>>14339394
Fair enough, I'll keep doing the threadly reminders then. Let's do our best and 2x the membership count

>> No.14339440

Life isntr always what u think itll be but u are beautiful

>> No.14339446

>>14339394
it's mostly for the times when 4chan is down (happened like 3 times at least in the past week, just the times that I noticed)


>>14339402
>Oh, and maybe if Japan, eu, us, etc really collapse like a house of cards in a global economic meltdown, when the boomers finally die and leave us to pay their debts.
wait this is the exciting future that keeps me from killing myself

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>>14339063
>>14339098
there has been dozens, if not hundreds of "official" /smg/ IRC's (or skype group, or discord channels) over time, but they all fade into the wind once whatever shill started the channel finishes their pump n dump

its easier to just not waste time with posting them

>>14339446
>>it's mostly for the times when 4chan is down (happened like 3 times at least in the past week, just the times that I noticed)
we do have a backup board.....

>> No.14339539

>>14339416
Not yet. Thinking about building a quote bot in Python when I get some free time

>>14339474
I am the founder of the current one and I have nothing to shill. Just meant to be a space to talk shop and socialize, but if you don't want to join it's all good.

>> No.14339687

>>14339052
USMV > VTSAX

>> No.14339711

>>14339074
yeah that was me, if you want guaranteed growth then just buy VTSAX man

the economy will never completely collapse, bonds are stupid, and individual companies are too risky

trust the process, buy the US stock market, VTSAX

>> No.14339725

>>14339027
Redpill me on roth IRA’s vs traditional newfag just starting out saving for retirement at 26 need help senpai

>> No.14339757

>>14339725
roth if you will spend more money aka need more income in the future

traditional if you will spend less and realize less income in the future

>> No.14339768

>>14339711
*VTI

>> No.14339849

>>14339768
i own VTSAX the mutual fund instead of VTI, becuase i can invest down to the dollar and im well above the minimum which is $3,000

>> No.14339871

>>14339146
I fucking hate Slack and think it’s a big step backwards trying to bring chat rooms back. Maybe if it ever integrates into anything, but more than likely it’s a faggot dad that will die out like it should.

>> No.14340174

>>14339725
One you put taxes on the money you put in, and one you pay taxes on the money you take out. For me, money's a little tight so I'd rather save on taxes now.

>> No.14340213

>>14339871
We use Slack at work (free plan) and it seems okay. The ability to post code files with syntax highlighting is nice. What do you think is better than Slack or other "chat rooms?" Email?

>> No.14340222

>Futures

AAAAAAAAAAAAAÀAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.14340257

T Babies shining so bright while the market takes a big o shat today and tonight. Tuesday will be here before you know it. Will the shat keep piling up? Who knows. But oh well, least I've got my T Babies back when the price was low. While Drip works over time I'll just be sitting back stuffing as much cash as I can in the bank. I'll let my stocks move up and down and keep an eye out for some sweet buyouts if they come my way via my inbox sent from my brokerage.

>> No.14340291

should i just buy back in tomorrow? 62% of my stack is on the side

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>>14340257
Patriot Mobile is going to put AT&T out of business.

>> No.14340398

>>14337560
I read enough about it to see that both the science and the business prospects are over my head, or at least over the amount of time that I wanted to spend researching it. But if you can make close to 10% gambling that it won't drop significantly below $4 long term for less than two weeks, that seemed like a fair gamble to me.

Also, you need Jesus.

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>>14340222

I was hoping they wouldn't dump this hard. I want to get a short position in at a decent entry price tomorrow.

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>>14339326
>>% of inversions
>???

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>>14340309
absolutely based, MAGA!

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>>14340519
Thanks. I trust you have a Reagan Privacy Email as well.

>> No.14340840

>>14340565
This would be cool if your last or first name was actually Reagan

>> No.14340919

>>14339539
If you understand why having two concurrent /smg/ threads is a bad idea then you should be able to understand why having an IRC channel is a bad idea.

>> No.14341650

>wow classic is coming out soon, everyone and their boomer dad will try it out for nostalgia
>blizzcon around the corner
>cheapies stock
Why haven't you bought Activision yet?

>> No.14342368

>>14340490
Huh. Well we’re... not very inverted then, I guess.

So the % of inversion refers to the 3 to 5, 3 to 10, 3 to 12, etc for all the different types of treasuries?

Never occurred to me that the fed funds rate could be inverted?

>>14340467
Same here... I probably would have already gotten in some SH if i wasn’t trying out the Tao of the Rat.

>> No.14342670

>>14340309

I like their flag logo

>> No.14342973

> Iran says White House is 'mentally retarded'
lmao

>> No.14343089

>>14342973
...source?

>> No.14343104
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>>14343089
He spoke in telly

>> No.14343138

>>14342973
Best part is that it’s not even the first time
Same phrasing back in 2017:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/trump-mentally-retarded-over-nuclear-pact-says-ayatollah-1.3260677?mode=amp

And I remember being taught in grade school 2 decades ago to never say the r-word as an insult.

>> No.14343321

Buy oil? Philadelphia fire seems deliberate.

>> No.14343599

>>14343138
Facts are not insult

>> No.14343616

>Muji Competitor MINISO to Plan $1 Billion IPO
Pretty ambitious for what effectively is a dollar store chain

>> No.14343653

>>14343616
Better get in now before the froth settles
Also before the government shutdown

Also, dollar store chains are the only retailers that really work right now. Dollar stores, Lulu, and Target.

>> No.14343975
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14343975

Buy Amazon, AMD, Tesla.

>> No.14344037

>>14343975
Oil?

>> No.14344526
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>>14343975
nigga those should be sold soon

LMT, BA, WM are good buys right now

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Page 8 Save!

slow morning...

>> No.14345243

>>14343616
>>14343653
I didn't know a company violating sanctions and exporting things to sell in North Korea, can be allowed to lost onto American stock exchange
http://www.innercitypress.com/northkorea1miniso1031618.html

>> No.14345370

Trimming oil a bit to buy more gold and silver miners

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>>14345370
you think we've already had peak oil prices? idk about that

>> No.14345747

>>14345670
I don't see it getting much higher than it is from supply/demand factors. US is pumping more oil than ever and global demand is pretty weak due to economic slowdown. The headlines re: Iran gave it a pump. I see it going down short to medium term

Gold and silver appear to be going parabolic, maybe not the healthiest thing but I dont see why gold cant hit 1800

>> No.14346030

Jake Paul got engaged, how will the markets react?

>> No.14346239

I just practiced boomerism.

I moved my lawn.

I feel,

dirty.

>> No.14346243

Green Bull!
D30k!

>> No.14346304

>>14346239
Where'd you move it?

>> No.14346316

>>14346304
to the grass cutter machine and through it

>> No.14346393

>>14339027
What does it mean if you get number 1?

>> No.14346401

>>14340309
Nice browser anon

>> No.14346880

>>14346393
You are in a coma.

>> No.14346902

Im such and fucking idiot. Why did I sell my gold calls to buy puts? I could have taken 1% but now I'm financially ruined.

>> No.14346912

>>14339027
lmao @ pic

>> No.14347045

Is ABBV dead?

>> No.14347143

i am way over my head in MU$32 PUT and its making me nervous

>> No.14347158

Fuck do I regret not selling PLUG when it was +6%, now at -17% and still holding lol. Thinking about selling it since it's raping my overal gainz. Should I? (I'm at +20% portfolio now)

>> No.14347163

Why in the FUCK are we not going down for a healthy pullback >_<
Fuck you and Fuck this market go down

>> No.14347275

>>14347163
We literally just did a month ago
We also had a significant correction in December

>> No.14347279

>>14347045
I'm taking a hit. It will bounce back r-right?

>> No.14347350
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What are we buying today lads? AMD I hope!

>> No.14347366

>>14347350
kneepads

>> No.14347396
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>>14347366
checked for truth

>> No.14347443

>>14347143
STOP GOING UP

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>>14347366

>> No.14347484
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>>14347143
I was over +20% on my $32 mu put but instead of selling I held it until it expired worthless

>> No.14347510
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>Abbv

>> No.14347521
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Sea of red on the watchlist

>> No.14347538
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14347538

That BPMX pre-market pump, now dump.

>> No.14347622

Just loaded up on SPY puts. Lets ride the slide!

>> No.14347654

Getting hosed again today...

>> No.14347655
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14347655

>buy KK
>drops 40 cents right after
Sasuga bogdanoff

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14347670

vol etc. indicate slight correction possible here

>> No.14347703

Buy HLYK

>> No.14347733

VGLT master race.

Pumps when stocks pump. Pumps when stocks dump.

>> No.14347737

Fucking short squeeze

>> No.14347801

Fucking SPY isn't falling fast enough. Can some one put Uncle Bernie's speech about how he plans to pay for the free college on a loud speaker in front of the stock exchange?

>> No.14347815

>>14347801
It's just 1% of every round trip. We figured out yesterday that 1% is fucking incredible and now we're going to need 2% on every round trip to make it.

>> No.14347824

ddddrrrrruuuummmpppffff

>> No.14347840

>>14339376
No it's not you fucking moron

>> No.14347858
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College should be free

But not everyone deserves to be in college

>> No.14347860
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BTI the superior

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>Consumer Confidence number
>Down for June

creating bullshit stats to sway option trading.

>> No.14347946
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House prices up slightly/flat, consumer confidence and home sales down

>> No.14347993

and fuck you rkg for humiliating muh waifu and muh daughrterfu

>> No.14348036

>>14347484
earnings are today after market close, im hoping the slaughter will push them down below 32 - got a ton risked for this not to play out :(

>> No.14348086

we bear now

>> No.14348142

A recession just flew over my house.

>> No.14348205

Why is SPY getting ass raped today? I thought we were going to hit $300 this week. Now it looks like we're going back to $280

>> No.14348231

>>14348205
Alright if you want to leave the fucking golden bull run the exit is right there to your left

>> No.14348234
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IT'S TIME FOR CHEAPIES LADS

>> No.14348246

>>14348205
We'd only hit 300 if a trade happens and that'd be on monday. If SPY goes back to 280 then i'd say there's no chance of a deal happening with the already slim odds since trump might have been willing to bend the knee if it meant SPY reaching 300

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AMD should see a bounce to at least mid 30s. I think i'll sell then and get out before eow just because of the probability of a huge red monday when there's no deal

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14348365

So is PLUG gonna be ok?

>> No.14348566
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14348566

Any good sales?

>> No.14348637

>>14348566
SPY puts are deep value. We're going back to sub $100 spy.

>> No.14348663

>>14348637
I doubt that, I just sold my VTI on Vanguard, SPY is now going to moon and I still have daytrades on RH

>> No.14348714

QYLD exdiv tomorrow, buy the dip today for ez gains

>> No.14348761

BGS showing signs the dip was Fake

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>MSFT drops because one jew faggot talks shit about them
Buy this dip right fucking now.

>> No.14348937

>>14348909
what are you referring to?

>> No.14348963

>>14348714
When do they take the money out of the ETF's price? I want to buy more of them, but I don't want to over pay.

>> No.14348996
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14348996

I am not sure if it is relevant, but I don't want to create a separate thread. Does anybody trade on options?

inb4 I apologize for being extremly noob in that business.
What is the trick because I easily made $79 in one day. I opened some positions yesterday. In general I bet on volatility. And today I close overall in profit.

My versions are:
I opened a demo account and it is just a trick to attract people and the data provided is inaccurate.

In demo account I have extremely large amount of money so such movements are possible.

I got extremely lucky.

I don't get something.

Thank you in advance for your answers.

>> No.14349017

>>14348963
on exdiv day
>>14348996
do you speak english?

>> No.14349027
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14349027

Why did I do great when using the Investopedia simulator, and am already down 2% in just a week when using real money?

>> No.14349029

>>14349017
I am not native speaker if you ask that.

>> No.14349041

>>14349029
Your English is definitely good enough for people to understand what you're saying, don't worry about that

>> No.14349057

>>14349029
*ahem*
Go away nigger
And the jannies too

>> No.14349096

>>14349057
Plz no bully.

>> No.14349118
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>>14348996
Large sum of money to work with. If you had done really well with options in a million dollar account you would have moved thousands of dollars, not 79 bucks.

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NATH hiked their dividend like 40%
Strong

>> No.14349174

>>14349118
Yeah, but I opened just 4 positions with like minimum amount. And I waited only until today. But I got your point. So does it mean that if you have million you can make money easier?

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>>14349027
because real world has too many variables to properly simulate, otherwise every single trader on earth would use simulators to only profit, never lose money

thats why paper trading is not proper preparation for real trading (lack of "skin in the game" means paper trading doesnt capture the psychological aspect of trading either)

>> No.14349195

Powell is speaking at 1PM EST, you might get your bump depending on his choice of words.

Lets be honest now though: this market is just being moved thanks to the Fed and the hope that US/China talks will restart.

I hope Trump says something about Hong Kong and the Chinese go apeshit btw.

>> No.14349251

>>14349195
Get long.

>> No.14349269

>>14349195
the current downturn will not shift much if at all from some us-cn trade deal

>> No.14349302

>>14349174
Kind of, but not really. You have a lot more options with more money, but that's about it. You're just magnifying the scale of things. 2%+ with 100 bucks is 2 dollars. 2%+ with a million is a month's rent. Some stuff like dividends only really work with large sums. But I think the average /smg/ account is like 2.5k

I kind of want to open a paper account, and do all the stupid trades I'm too scared to do with real money there and see if autism trader me is better than timid trader me.

>> No.14349305

>>14349027

Because what worked when you did your practice run didn't work when you made your real investment.

Did you stick to the same strategy?

My theory is at this stage you can't pick winners. You can't beat the market. So you can do the next best thing: leverage up on indices with an ETF.

You either think the market is going up or going down. The crypto boys put their balls on the line, so why can't we?

>> No.14349314

>>14349186
Ok, this one actually answered my question. Because my demo account is paper trading one.

>> No.14349352
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>>14349027
>>14349314
If you want to make money, write covered calls. It‘s one of the only ways to consistently outperform benchmark spy.

>> No.14349355

>>14349269

If China told America to fuck off, equities would take a hit.

Equities have been detached from the real economy for 18 months now. Look at the Russell 2000 and then look at the Dow or S&P.

>> No.14349384

>>14349355
or at treasury market, true

>> No.14349425

>>14349352
How many SPY shares do you have / have much have you made?

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14349447

>>14349352
>implying

>>14349425
however much is needed to win his internet arguments (real results will never be posted)

>> No.14349455

>>14349305

So what you're saying is, focus on ETFs for now until I get enough experience? Or just keep using ETFs rather than equities?

>> No.14349485

>>14349352
I'm already not good enough for """basic""" trades, I'll stay away from options for now, thx tho

>> No.14349512

>>14349447
I really wanna know. I'm interested in writing calls but i'd like to know how much i need and how much i'll get.

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14349532

>>14349455
yes, just split it between SPY, DIA, QQQ, IWD (or just SPY and DIA)
youll do better than most "traders" by just dollar cost averaging into those 4 (or 2) ETF's over time

>> No.14349562

The only way to out preform the SPY is to have some kind of mole on the inside and then time the market.

>> No.14349575

>>14349532
Alright, thanks! Appreciate it

>> No.14349648
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14349648

>>14349562
blind luck can work too, its just not very reliable

the easiest way to go from homeless to millionaire is to buy a winning lottery ticket

but that doesnt mean that the best way to become a millionaire is to buy lottery tickets (because a vast majority of the time this will not end with you getting rich, itll usually end with you now being one lottery ticket's cost poorer)

>> No.14349718

>>14349455

Pretty much mate, because if you go out and just randomly buy shit you MIGHT beat the market, but it would be luck.

Consider this: Warren Buffet's company didn't beat the index in the last 2 years. Can any of us say we're better at trading than Warren Buffet and his employees?

>> No.14349735

>>14349648
So you're saying that state run lottery systems are designed to keep niggers in their place?

>> No.14349799

>>14349562
my insiders told me treasuries are about to Tank next week
Get your TMV loaded up.

>> No.14349889

>>14349648

Gambling is worthwhile if what you're gambling on is a binary outcome and the payout is many times what you're betting.

A good example right now would be the UK Conservative Party election. Boris Johnson is a shoe in for the leader at like $1.30, but Jeremy Hunt is paying $5 for a win.

I remember similar odds for Brexit and Trump back in 2016.

Everything in the media tells you that Boris Johnson is going to win, but it's a binary outcome either one or the other must happen. Odds tend to shorten much more the closer an election comes, and I think it's due to the perceived reality that we observe through the media vs what's actually occurring in people's minds in the electorate.

Interesting stuff.

Anyway, there's always roulette with a 49% chance of winning.

>> No.14349947

>talking to boomer client at work
>he recommends i buy stocks
>ask him what
>he reccomends some 1 dollar biotech i don't even remember the name of that dropped 80% in the last year

>> No.14350116

Rough draft of the Pendfolio(TM) 2.0 (after GALT): CATS, DYAI, ATHX, MRKR, long term BYND puts
May not be able to get MRKR if the upcoming pancreatic cancer data is good or the BYND puts if this hexane scandal pops the bubble, as it likely will

>> No.14350176

>>14350116
Also lmaoing @ people who know BYND is stupidly overvalued but try to time the moment the bubble will pop with short term puts instead of just buying puts that expire a year or two from now

>> No.14350211

>>14350176
The entire S&P is in a bubble that's going to pop a year or two from now...

>> No.14350215

>>14350116
Yeah, CAT and CATS

>> No.14350275

>>14350176
show your puts

>> No.14350285

>>14350176
>>14350116
1-15-21 $50 BYND puts
Someone who actually understands options r8 this idea

>> No.14350296

>>14350116
>>14350176
You don‘t even meet margin requirements lmfao how are you gonna afford BYND put leaps? Faggot.

>> No.14350322

GE getting hammered this week. Time to accumulate before Earnings on July 19th

>> No.14350332

>DF under 1
this is too pathetic to even look at

>> No.14350352

>>14350275
This is a purely hypothetical idea bud, just thinking about what I'm going to do after GALT

>>14350215
CATS is actually a really compelling buy both in terms of balance sheets and overall story

>longing mental illness and lowering healthcare costs

https://catasys.com/

>> No.14350369

>>14350285
I believe you would get your ass kicked for suggesting a stupid idea like that.

>> No.14350391

Better long term buy T, MSFT, or WMT?

Talking like 10 years

>> No.14350397

>>14350369
What makes that idea stupid

>> No.14350399

>>14350176
Decay might kill you

>> No.14350407

>>14350391
Unironically buy all 3

>> No.14350413

>>14350391
MSFT
T
WMT
That order.

>> No.14350431

>>14350397
Bynd has to pull a -67% to just even reach atm on that idea lawl. It‘s a hilariously bad otm put buy. You have no fucking idea what youre doing pendy. Everyone knows you‘re a shit investor and Galt will never get you the funds needed to even execute that trade.

>> No.14350438

>>14350399
Thanks for pointing that out, I'm admittedly clueless about options
Just floating an idea

>> No.14350455

>>14350285
Look at the theta and IV. Bad move.

>> No.14350457

>>14350391
This >>14350413

>> No.14350461

>>14350431
Do you realize how stupidly overvalued BYND is
Do you think its current valuation is the result of anything but a speculative bubble

>> No.14350485

>>14350461
You don’t want to hold shares short or puts on that overnight, period.

>> No.14350493

Buy PLUG. Oil companies can't keep the price down forever

>> No.14350497

>>14350461
>Do you realize how stupidly overvalued BYND is
>Said the nervous bear for the 30th time since IPO
Don‘t buy otm options. Especially not puts. Especially when you don‘t even own the underlying shares.

>> No.14350560

>>14350485
>>14350497
I know it's definitely risky given how much it's been inflated, but the point of the puts being long term is to buy into the idea that the bubble will pop without having to time it
Maybe I should try a paper trading account to see how this would go and actually read about options first
I wouldn't actually do this without understanding more about options than I currently do beforehand

>> No.14350599

>>14350560
Yeah, you need to understand the theta decay and IV those puts have.

>> No.14350637

>>14350599
Thanks for the feedback

>> No.14350659

>>14350560
Imma say it again coz it looks like you can‘t read. Don‘t buy otm options. Always have the shares/cash needed to exercise (don‘t exercise, but always have the ability to just incase shtf).

>> No.14350667

>>14350285
I'd go with $100. It's expensive but much more likely to payout, and payout big too.

>> No.14350681

See this is how you do it. You get paid 58% if it doesn't pop and you only have to risk $500 instead of $1100 and need the shit to go back to like $25 to make any money.

>> No.14350683

>>14350659
Nah, buy Friday 293-294 calls on SPY.

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>>14350681
forgot to include pic related

>> No.14350714

>>14350667
True, $50 might be a bit too low

>> No.14350724

>>14350461
Yeah, but if they use their inflated value to sell more shares and invest in their future they won't be cut down to $50, and you wouldn't even be profiting at $50.

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Rate my positions, lads. Here's a one sentence thesis on each:

NKE (short-term): earnings coming up, expecting a beat
INTC (long-term): divvy and undervalued IMO
GALT (med-term): memestock I bought because of Pendy's incessant shilling, actually doing ok
WORK (med-term): should not have bought this
KR (med-term): mixed feelings about this one desu, but feel it's a bit undervalued
NG (short/med-term): wanted some gold exposure
GE (short-term): earnings coming up, expecting a beat

>> No.14350745

>>14350726
Also have $130 TSLA puts, 7/12 exp

>> No.14350753

>>14350659
Wrong, just don't buy options that far otm and that far away. So much can happen in that time.

>> No.14350759

>>14350711
Then if it does start to pop, you just buy the $80 put and another $75 put and ride it to the lambo dealership.

>> No.14350763

>>14350726
I see oddlots on oddstocks. 0/10 expect future bankruptcy.

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>>14350726
>doesnt have LCI

>> No.14350796

>>14350714
You have to remember once you reach target price you still have to beat your premium before you're even sniffing at profits. Cheap options are cheap for a reason.

>> No.14350815

>>14350711
>>14350759
Seems intredasting, though you could just be shitposting and I wouldn't know any better

>> No.14350824

>+500 F at 16p for July 19
The fuck is this about?

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>>14350763
Thanks for the insight, extremely helpful

>>14350766
soz bby :^)

>> No.14350887
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14350887

>Dean Foods
I bought back in thinking $1 was rock-solid support. SHEEIT.

>> No.14350909

>>14350887
DAMN

what happened to that company?

>> No.14350912

>>14350887
Bought 70 shares because I thought it would be funny
>down 50%

>> No.14350915

HOLY FUCK SOME ONE JUST FUCKING SOLD EVERYTHING AND WALKED THE FUCK OUT!

>> No.14350935

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>> No.14350939
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>>14350915
CLOSE THE MARKETS

>> No.14350941

>>14350887
>>14350909
bash the fuck out of it.. lets all buy it at .50

>> No.14350953

>>14350935
Who ever it was hit the fucking bid on gold at the same time.

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BUY THOSE CHEAPIES YOU FUCKS BUY THEEEEEEEEEEEEEM

>> No.14350971

>>14350915
bear market is confirmed i guess

>> No.14350981

>>14350915
>>14350953
they're probably getting out to buy bitcoin.

>> No.14351035

Fat finger

>> No.14351171

Powell must have increased his long volatility position.

>> No.14351174

RED DAY IS NOW CANCELLED
EXIT ALL SHORTS
YOU HAVE BEEN ADVISED

>> No.14351243

>>14351174
Eat the loss and make up for it with a SPY call?

>> No.14351254

>>14351174
Yeah, bears failed.

>> No.14351270

CRAB MARKET
CRAB MARKET

>> No.14351272

>>14351174
why are you saying this anon? Do you work for a big hedge fund or something?

>> No.14351275
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14351275

>>14351243
How do you have anything left to lose at this point?

>> No.14351291

>>14351272
>Do you work for a big hedge fund or something?
My NDA prevents me from answering that

>> No.14351300

>>14351291
no worries

>> No.14351320

>>14351275
I dunno but I just put some money into that QYLD because dividends and friends.

>> No.14351336

>>14351320
how much have you lost this year?

>> No.14351365

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>> No.14351368

>>14351174
WTF YOU ASSHOLE I JUST BOUGHT CALLS!

>> No.14351394
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14351394

Ahem....

And now for my brown brothers... Sorry no tortillas

>> No.14351393

>>14351336
15 grand

>> No.14351415

>>14351393
You should just buy some LCI and make that money back.. buy a few hundred shares and sell calls on every spike

>> No.14351443
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14351443

The ship is teetering. We're all going down.

>> No.14351464

>>14351415
I'm just going to get 1% 3 times a week until ((they)) let me get 1% 5 or 6 times a day.

>> No.14351472

>>14351368
Illiquid overreaction.

>> No.14351481

>>14351393
based

>> No.14351486

>>14351464
look man.. you obviously fucking suck and should calm down on the sucking

>> No.14351518

>>14351486
I'll get out of this hole like no problem.

>> No.14351549

>>14351518
I believe in you.

>> No.14351556

>>14351518
one day at a time

>> No.14351585

>>14351556
everyday 1% at a time :D

>> No.14351597

>>14351518
t. Nick Leeson

>> No.14351775
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14351775

I..is the selling over?

>> No.14351801

>>14351775
Yeah get some leveraged long positions and prepare for the swiftest recovery on record.

>> No.14351849

>>14351775
Large specs mangers just went out for a cigarette break

>> No.14351919

>>14339027
My 500 macaroons went through and my account has been approved by RH. What do I invest in?

>> No.14351930

>>14339146
I bailed after the first day thankfully.

>> No.14351935

So the market can never crash ever again...
Ever again...

>> No.14351938

>>14351919
Take all of your shekels and put them on Green Day leveraged vehicles.

>> No.14351956

>>14351938
?

>> No.14352053
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14352053

>>14351775

I entered long on S&P about 15 minutes ago off the dragonfly doji. We'll see. **Should** be a little bounce here.

>> No.14352098

WHAT DO I INVEST REEEEE

>> No.14352117

>>14352098
SPXL

>> No.14352119

>>14352098
Money

>> No.14352143

MU creepin closer to 32
gogogo

>> No.14352149

>>14352117
Why?

>> No.14352186

>>14350285
You're a fucking retard

>> No.14352194

>>14352053

This is not a convincing mini rally...

>> No.14352196

Should I buy IFRX?

>> No.14352250
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14352250

Friday sold GALT calls to buy more BTC.. GALT call drops but have no buying power to buy back calls

>> No.14352256

>>14352149
Do it pussy, ATH this week.

>> No.14352272

What’s the consensus on FIT? Looks like they always outperform estimated earnings and then shoot up real quick. Long calls 3 months out?

>> No.14352402

>>14351368
Hope you sold them at a loss you impatient buffoon.

>> No.14352440

Just dropping by from pol to inform you that we're at 3 I repeat three skykangs
Trade at your own risk. Pol out.

>> No.14352460

>>14352402
I'm down like 20% on these things already, it's going to take me like 3 weeks to make this shit back.

>> No.14352597

Just dropping by from pol to inform you that we're at 3 I repeat three skykangs
Trade at your own risk. Pol out.

>> No.14352632

>>14352460
tell me when you sell them so i can buy

>> No.14352673

>>14339402
>boomers die and leave us to pay their debts
Thats not how that works. Debt doesnt pass on. People who are somehow owed money by boomers instead of the other way around are just gonna have to deal with it once the boomers die. Well, unless there are assets to divide up, but if that were the case then the person who is owed money is an idiot for not trying to collect prior to death.

>> No.14352835

>>14352632
I'm a SPY marine, and I am never fucking selling!

>> No.14352867
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14352867

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/01/17/trump-new-missile-defense-strategy.html

is this bullish for Raytheon?

>> No.14352886

>>14352867
oops this one too https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/25/nato-says-russia-must-end-nuclear-ready-missile-ssc-program.html

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14352919

All in to IFRX here we fucking go

>> No.14352933

>>14352673
You just explained 10-30 year treasuries spread

>> No.14353018

>>14352919
I bought that when it dropped off the cliff and held for almost a month with no gains.

>> No.14353028

>wake up at 11AM
>Easy money already been made by everyone else, too late to get in on SH/SQQQ
>buy more GEO even thought we’re already overbought and there’s still a lot more downside if Bernie’s cheapies are any example
>Private Prison is vastly different from Merck and UNH, and I’m probably throwing money away
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHSOMEONE STOP ME!!!!!!

>>14352933
W-what?
Can you reverse engineer that explanation?

>> No.14353051

>>14353018
I think it will make gains in the future but you gotta be patient because they're researching.

>> No.14353139

>>14353051
Godspeed but I didn't want to hold that lotto ticket for years.

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14353145

>mfw I just liquidated half of my biomeme pnd dogshits, and I'm now the proud new owner of 50 T shares.

>> No.14353161

OK fuck this I'm selling these spy calls before I lose any more money. Fucking 3 sky kangs, it must be about to happen.

>> No.14353207

>>14353145
>dogshits
Chewy?
Waste Management?

>> No.14353217

Where were you when market crash?

>> No.14353236

>>14353028
>person who is owed money is an idiot for not trying to collect prior to death.

people expect US to have a debt problem after the next 10 years. The 10 year yield is all the way down at 2%. If you wanted long term us treasuries why not get 30 years at 2.5%, fully 25% higher yield? 'Cause you think they will be dead by then

>> No.14353254

>>14353217
Alas, ID confirms dow to 5200

>> No.14353255

>>14352117
>>14352098
homer brain: SPY
normal brain: SPXL
big brain: TQQQ
galaxy brain: FNGU

>> No.14353272

>>14353161
>3 sky kang
What's that?

>> No.14353275

>>14353236
Ah
Thanks fren

>> No.14353290

>>14352597
O_O
Nuuuu not 3 skyking
Nuuuuuuuuuuu

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>>14353254
Confirmed... There will be no cuts this year...

>> No.14353361

n-nani!?

>> No.14353376

I wish I had more money to buy more MSFT.

>> No.14353401
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14353401

Fucking holding JNUG all day

>tfw also sold SQQQ yesterday for tiny gains
>tfw also sold QQQ puts this morning for tiny gains

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14353408

Alright, say you get millions of dollars and you want to park it in an index fund. I had the idea of splitting the lump sum up across 12 months, in order to withdraw 4% on a yearly basis each month for long-term capital gains tax.

Is this doable? Could it all be done within the same index fund or the same account?

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>>14353207
Basically anything with the word "therapeutics". I don't want to get /ACER'd/

>> No.14353440

>>14353255
Kek
It more like SPY > SPXL > FNGU > TQqq

>> No.14353505

This has got to have been the worst trading day all year. I can't believe it could possibly have gotten this bad.

>> No.14353529

Wow the market really didn't like what Powell had to say.

Maybe the old man has some balls yet regarding telling Trump to fuck off.

>> No.14353534

>>14353412
sheesh

>> No.14353553

SPY oversold on 5min, 15min, and 1hour now. Should be a little bounce in to power hour.

>> No.14353558

>>14353412
wasn't this shit shilled in here a few months back?

>> No.14353593

>>14353553
stocks can stay oversold for a very long time when there's a liquidity problem like we are currently seeing. There literally isn't enough cash to purchase all the shares so the prices have to come down.

>> No.14353628

>>14353558
I seriously hope nobody bought it if it was.

>> No.14353630

>>14353593

smol bounce not short term trend reversal

>> No.14353640

>>14353553
Meh
Me bought but eh it could go straight to 2896

>> No.14353654

MU - $32.99
>please go lower, i need tendies

>> No.14353674

>>14353290
>>14352597
Skyking is dead though

>lol at everyone including myself who got suckered in to posing on the pol thread about this

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14353689

>>14353654
Haha yes

>holding bags

>> No.14353696

God damn it as soon as I sell my fucking SPY the fucking trend reverses and red day is cancelled??? FUCK TRANNIES FUCK JANNIES AND FUCK NIGGERS>

>> No.14353722

Eyeing some Macy's cheapie around 21.00

>> No.14353725
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14353725

What the fuck just happened to Tyson?

>> No.14353734

>>14339312
What is the y scale in this pic?

>> No.14353740

Kek
>>14353674
Kek
Me recognizes skyking as old GLP meme back from like 2005
Its nothing >_> paranoid schizophrenic thing
There no correlation between number of times skyking said and world events

>> No.14353821

>>14353725
Oh... poultry price fixing.
I remember hearing about this on NPR probably 2 years ago. Why is govt cracking down on big business under trump?

I think I’m gonna sell and buy back lower... I kinda want to do that with all
My stonks though.

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>>14353734
1870 dollars

>> No.14354062

NEW BREAD?!?!?!

>> No.14354085

Okay why the fuck is MO mooning right now?

>> No.14354204
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14354204

Bleh. I'm out for the day I think. Broke even,.

>> No.14354278

>>14354062

yeah sure one moment please...

>> No.14354291

Can't wait for ding ding guy so we can all tell him how far our buttholes got stretched out

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14354317

>They actually thought P Diddy was going to lower rates...

>> No.14354343

CRM back into the buy zone...

>>14354085
Because the market isn't kind enough to give us SUPER cheapies

>> No.14354397

NEW THREAD GET LEADY GET SET GET BOOGALOOie

>>14354370

>>14354370

>>14354370

>>14354370