/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.14275715]

Funny how even the Twitter LINK shills no nothing about this tweet.

https://twitter.com/sbetamc/status/1139923230108651523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3Asmart_contract%7Ctwcon%5Etimelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcoinmarketcap.com%2Fcurrencies%2Fchainlink%2F

[Anonymous No.14275816]

there's loads of likes and a few replies from shills from before you made this thread. are you feeling ok?

[Anonymous No.14275923]

>>14275715
Oh nice. A chainlink competitor.

[Anonymous No.14275936]

Lmao. Chainstinkers and their neet nodes. BTFO.

[Anonymous No.14275972]

>>14275715
Means nothing. Accord Project has trashed Chainlink.

[Anonymous No.14275985]

>>14275715
i just dont think anyone cares about breadcrumbs anymore, even the ones that came true have done almost nothing to the price

[Anonymous No.14276023]

>>14275715
funny how /biz/ is now eating twitter's shit when it comes to LINK.... like the natural expectation is that twitter will have the news first. Starting to hate this timeline.

[Anonymous No.14276043]

>>14275972
Digital Asset was a presenter at Accord's conference on June 6: https://www.accordprojectforum.com

and they aren't mentioned on Accord's new website (yet) either: https://www.accordproject.org/about/

Sorry you missed out on the Google pump, but your fud is worthless.

[Anonymous No.14276060]

>>14275715
> Linklaters
You can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.14276070]

Did any of you brainlets actually read the article in the tweet? Decentralized oracles are REQUIRED for decentralized derivatives to exist. Chainlink is the solution enabling multiple trillions of dollars worth of derivatives to be automated.

[Anonymous No.14276086]

This was the pic I wanted to post, not the ISDA connection, but whatever I guess.

[Anonymous No.14276096]

>>14276070
So this article is favorable for chainlink?

[Anonymous No.14276124]

>>14275715
"Price Feed. In a derivative where settlement is fully automated, either the
underlying security (or a token representing it) needs to be on the blockchain
already or the blockchain needs to be able to assign a value to the security—
or more precisely, be fed the price it should use in evaluating the code of the
contract. In practice, an entity feeding prices (or any external information)
into a smart contract is called an oracle. Some related work has examined
3
oracles, and we present our decentralized design in Section subsection 4.2
called PriceGeth, which we have made freely available.1"

[Anonymous No.14276173]

>>14276043
Digital Asset is there
Our Members > Technology

[Anonymous No.14276176]

"Work on trusted oracles and price feeds, in the Ethereum eco-system, include
TownCrier [18] which acts as an attested bridge (running within an SGX enclave)
between trusted sources of information and the Ethereum blockchain."

"Our approach differs from these as PriceGeth publishes the data
to the Ethereum blockchain from the trusted source of information and the
historical data is available to all smart contracts, however in comparison with
the other approaches, is limited to only the published data (Price pairs)."

[Anonymous No.14276211]

>>14276173
well whaddyaknow, they got added at some point today.
They were not there earlier today, or the days before.

[Anonymous No.14276228]

>>14276096
only if you believe that chainlink are the only ones working on decentralised oracles or that another solution to the problem doesn't exist.

another solution to the problem exists btw.

[Anonymous No.14276261]

>A decentralized Price feed is an essential requirement for having a decentralized
derivative market.

[Anonymous No.14276279]

>>14276228
What would that be? Dont tell another oracle company

Its too late, they are all too late

[Anonymous No.14276285]

>>14276086
>globe earth

[Anonymous No.14276317]

>>14275715
>Ctrl + F Chainlink
>0 results

[Anonymous No.14276324]

>>14276096
They directly mention smartcontract oracles in the article

[Anonymous No.14276341]

>>14276211
yes but link was... and now its not kek

[Anonymous No.14276364]

>7 Conclusion
>Even though the idea of having a fully >autonomous and decentralized derivative
>market is intriguing, the infrastructure to reach this goal is still missing from the
>underlying network. As for example, price feed is one of the essentials of such a
>market and it should be done in a fully decentralized trustless way to prevent
>fraud and market manipulation by the feed provider. All the existing solutions
>today, have a central point that can manipulate data, it is either the exchange
>API or the component responsible to publish the price. As discussed before, one
>of the only solutions to this problem is to have a fully decentralized exchange on
>the network to provide realtime price feed for other smart contracts. There are
>some work done on decentralized exchanges [5], although there is no real world
>deployment of such a system at the time of writing. Smart contracts are fascinating idea that can >revolutionize the technology by removing the middlemen,
>however the underlying technology is more on the proof of concept level than
>mature enough to be used on the real world scenarios. We should also mention
>that the barrier for people to have the relevant crypto-currency to work with
>such systems still exists.

[Anonymous No.14276395]

>>14276279
it's FUD. there is no other solution other than decentralization and chainlink is too far ahead for any other startup to feasibly catch up.

[Anonymous No.14276402]

>>14276341
Neither Link nor Digital Asset were on there a few hours ago.
Both were on there on the old site.

[Anonymous No.14276421]

>>14276364
fucking rip to muh 1K eoy moonkiddies
I am TELLING you faggots that we are gonna bleed out hard for the rest of summer

[Anonymous No.14276482]

>>14276421
>bleed out with multiple conferences coming up, steady development and PSD2 in september
buy back in while you can swinglinker

[Anonymous No.14276500]

>>14276364
>>14276421
>price feed is one of the essentials of such a market and it should be done in a fully decentralized trustless way to prevent
fraud and market manipulation by the feed provider
Based Link shill

[Anonymous No.14276566]

>>14275715
I made this research collage a year ago when no one else was talking about CDM and now ISDA is partenered with Accord. CDM will use LINK. I have no doubt about this.

[Anonymous No.14276579]

>>14275715
you no nothing johnny snow

[Anonymous No.14276623]

>>14276086
This is old and everyone thinks it's a meme even it's not. We're gonna be the new elite.

[Anonymous No.14276655]

>>14276623
Pretty new for newfags, but I doubt 99% of them have any will to research or to even listen to Sergey's 40 minute talks while paying attention to every word he says.

[Anonymous No.14276666]

>>14276623
no we won't because most people on this board will sell early, especially nulinkers

[Anonymous No.14276692]

>>14276566
thanks anon

[42 No.14276771]

>>14276666
>most people on this board will sell early, especially nulinkers
most people on this board and nulinkers BTFO
the numbers speak for themselves

[Anonymous No.14276781]

>>14276043
>>14276402
>muh digital asset
>using the one exception to try and prove another exception
>ignoring the 20+ companies that are listed

[Anonymous No.14276789]

>>14276666

[Anonymous No.14276834]

>>14276781
There are more that are/were no longer listed on Accord's new site, like Appg.
Clearly the site is still under construction.
cope

[Anonymous No.14276876]

>>14276834
why isn't Rory responding to it? Why is everyone in the accord slack ignoring me?

[Anonymous No.14276897]

>>14276876
lmao, are you the faggot in there going "GOOGLE DIDN'T PARTNER WITH CHAINLINK IT'S NOT A PARTNERSHIP"?
If so, that's why everyone's ignoring you; you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.14276916]

>>14275936

>Neet nodes

Lmao

[42 No.14276987]

>>14276666
>most people on this board will sell early, especially nulinkers
>mfw chainlink is $1000

[Anonymous No.14277050]

>>14276897
not in the telegram. Nice try

[Anonymous No.14277070]

>>14276364
>As discussed before, one
>of the only solutions to this problem is to have a fully decentralized exchange on
>the network to provide realtime price feed for other smart contracts.
they are stating that link is useless.

[Anonymous No.14277154]

>>14277070
yup

[Anonymous No.14277163]

>>14275715

God damn it. I'm pretty much all in but i still have some RLC. might just go all in.

[Anonymous No.14277193]

>>14277154
It's really absurd to see linkies using a paper that demolishes link as proof that link is great.
I probably shouldn't be surprised.

[Anonymous No.14277208]

>>14277193
unironically bullish for link

people are now fudding link through academic articles. the cope levels are at ATH

[Anonymous No.14277233]

>>14277208
That academic article was written in November 2017
>All the existing solutions today, have a central point that can manipulate data, it is either the exchange API or the component responsible to publish the price
link aims to decentralize 'the component responsible to publish the price' but the exchange api still remains

[Anonymous No.14277275]

>>14277233
>what is aggregating and collecting multiple sources

doesn't matter if an exchange api is centralized on its own, chainlink solves this problem

[Anonymous No.14277310]

>>14277275
>what is aggregating and collecting multiple sources
a trivial function in a smart contract that takes at most 15 minutes to write

[Anonymous No.14277330]

>>14277233
But there's multiple exchanges?

[Anonymous No.14277336]

>>14277310
but then it's not secure and there's no significant reduction of trust, essentially eliminating the whole point of a smart contract. you're centralizing things.

nah who am i kidding link is just a json parser, useless crap

[Anonymous No.14277389]

>>14277336
It's secure if data sources sign their data, signatures can be verified on-chain.

[Anonymous No.14277405]

>>14275715
Why does this tweet link to a dead article?

https://twitter.com/accordhq/status/1031022745835003905?lang=en

Accord has clearly dropped Chainlink as they list QUANT as a fucking partner but not LINK on their website. LINKIES BTFO

[Anonymous No.14277431]

>>14277405
>Why does this tweet link to a dead article?
Because Accord deleted all but one of all its Medium articles.

[Anonymous No.14277476]

>>14277389
good luck bringing all of that data onchain from offchain without an oracle
not possible and doesn't take just "15 minutes" to do that in today's world

[Anonymous No.14277482]

>>14275816
This. Once again, OP is a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.14277493]

>>14277476
It just means I call the api and include the signed response in a transaction.

[Anonymous No.14277511]

>>14277389
>>14277493
Read the white paper, it cannot be done.

[Anonymous No.14277528]

>>14277511
it 100% can be done and you don't understand oracles and ethereum if you think it can't

[Anonymous No.14277538]

>>14277528
Someone didn't read the white paper.
It was co-written by Ari Juels, you should read it.

[Anonymous No.14277544]

>>14277431
Explain why QUANT is listed as a partner but LINK isnt? CLEARLY CHAINLINK IS NO LONGER BEING USED BY THE ACCORD PROJECT

[Anonymous No.14277555]

>>14277544
Until like two hours ago Digital Asset wasn't listed on there either, even though they spoke at Accord's convention earlier this month.

[Anonymous No.14277572]

>>14277538
stop using argument by authority
Are you really stating that this sequence of events is impossible:
1. I call 10 different data providers for the same fact, each returns a signed response
2. I push their responses in a transaction to a smart contract that verifies signatures and calculates a median, other average or whatever
3. The result is used in the smart contract
?

[Anonymous No.14277574]

>>14277544
Because the relationship between chainlink and accord is now that of a master and his slave.

[Anonymous No.14277593]

>>14277528
>>14277493
>>14277389
How desperate are you to use this "hurr sources will sign their own data" fud, which has been debunked over and over again since September of 2017?

So you missed the Google pump, just swallow your pride, take the loss and buy back in.

[Anonymous No.14277613]

>>14277572
Sources cannot sign their own data.
Read the white paper, it explains why and has been out for nearly two years now.

[Anonymous No.14277618]

>>14277574
>>14277555
Digital asset has been there for over two weeks, someone made up that it had only been added today and you're a fucking moron for believing it. Look at an archived version if you don't believe me you brainlet.

WHY IS QUANT LISTED WHEN THEY HAVE NEVER HAD ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR "BREAD CRUMBS" IF LINK IS SO FUCKING IMPORTANT.

[Anonymous No.14277626]

>>14277572
>stop using argument by authority
lmao

Just read it you goober.

[Anonymous No.14277636]

>>14277593
>has been debunked
>unable to show how
>>14277613
>Sources cannot sign their own data.
what?
>it explains why
no, it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.14277637]

>>14277618
>Digital asset has been there for over two weeks
Go to the /biz/ archives, it's brought up a couple of times.
I saw it myself when it was brought up, Digital Asset was simply not on there.

[Anonymous No.14277659]

>>14277636
>HTTPS, the protocol for secure web communications, does not enable data signing
t. white paper

voilà

[Anonymous No.14277674]

>>14277659
read >>14277572 again, there are only 3 steps

[Anonymous No.14277684]

>>14277674
So you agree that sources can't sign their own data?

[Anonymous No.14277750]

>>14277684
Every normal crypto transaction is data signed by the source - that's what the signature means - if signing was impossible no blockchain would even work.
The quote refers to downloading unsigned data through https, which indeed has no inbuilt signing capability, it doesn't mean the api can't intentionally provide signed data, whether through https or not is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.14277783]

>>14276173
>>14277618
here you go faggot

[Anonymous No.14277802]

>>14277750
>Every normal crypto transaction is data signed by the source
>crypto transaction
We're talking about external data here.

Read the white paper.

[Anonymous No.14277848]

>>14277750
>Every normal crypto transaction is data signed by the source - that's what the signature means - if signing was impossible no blockchain would even work.
You have no idea what blockchains and oracles are, omfg.
Forget about reading the Chainlink white paper, start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain

[Anonymous No.14277895]

>>14277802
>We're talking about external data here.
what's a transaction before it's included in blocks?
look you're missing fundamentals on how it all works.
Here's a tutorial on how to sign a message with the key of your ethereum account
https://blog.tenx.tech/sign-message-instructions-for-ethereum-address-verification-2c8caee4c3af
everyone can sign anything with their key, including you.

Https is only one of methods of transporting data, it doesn't limit the transported data in any way.
>>14277848

[Anonymous No.14277954]

>>14277895
Here's Vitalik explaining how Oracles are ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for adding external data to blockchain:
>The most common case that will appear in reality is the case of external data;
>sometimes, you want a financial contract that uses the price of the US dollar, and you can’t cryptographically determine that just by doing a few hashes and measuring ratios.
>In this case, oracles are absolutely necessary.
>IN THIS CASE, ORACLES ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY

Stop posting now and read the white paper.
Your shit fud was debunked years ago.

[Anonymous No.14277994]

so where is digital asset? I'm not seeing it

https://www.accordproject.org/membership/

[Anonymous No.14278030]

>>14277954
An oracle is an external entity that provides signed data. A signed response from an exchange makes that exchange an oracle.

[Anonymous No.14278050]

>>14278030
>he's still posting

[Anonymous No.14278064]

>>14277994
https://www.accordproject.org/about

Under the technology tab.
They weren't on there a few hours ago though, see >>14277783

[Anonymous No.14278123]

>>14278050
I'm not actually writing to you, even if it appears so. Your responses demonstrate inability to perform basic abstract thinking, meaning you don't qualify as human. Instead, I'm writing to actual people that may read this thread.
Hope this clears any misunderstanding.

[Anonymous No.14278135]

>>14277050
Nobody mentioned telegram you numbskull

[Anonymous No.14278168]

>>14278123
>"hurrrr you don't need oracles if sources sign their own data!"
t. you

>"oracles are absolutely necessary for external data"
t. Vitalik

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14278200]

>>14276279
>What would that be?
>Don't give me an answer, any answer you give is wrong
Do you see how retarded you sound?

[Anonymous No.14278203]

>>14278168
>"hurrrr you don't need oracles if sources sign their own data!"

>It's secure if data sources sign their data, signatures can be verified on-chain.
are those two sentences equivalent to your brainlet brain?

[Anonymous No.14278250]

>>14278203
There is zero reason to bring up "sources will sign their own data" unless you're trying to claim that makes oracles obsolete.

See >>14277476
for instance.

You're just pivoting because you got btfo.

[Anonymous No.14278297]

>>14278250
>There is zero reason to bring up "sources will sign their own data" unless you're trying to claim that makes oracles obsolete.
and here's the lack of abstract thinking: a data source becomes an oracle because it self-signs. You continue to think about it as two separate entities.

[Anonymous No.14278303]

>>14278297
>a data source becomes an oracle because it self-signs
Data sources can run their own oracles, yes.

[Anonymous No.14278345]

>>14276043
They are desperate, comedy gold. Shit is funny. Pssst..it's going back up keep on fudding.

[Anonymous No.14278394]

Put the parking brake in neutral and release the tangerines.

[Anonymous No.14278413]

>>14276897
Well said, lmfao .

[Anonymous No.14278448]

>>14277783
WHY DO YOU FAGGOTS KEEP IGNORING THAT QUANT IS LISTED THERE WITH NO ANNOUNCEMENTS BUT CHAINLINK ISNT??? YOU FUCKING RETARDS DONT GET IT!

[Anonymous No.14278464]

>>14278448
Quant was announced on twitter in 2018 just like Link, calm down.

[Anonymous No.14278466]

IT IS SO FUCKING CLEAR THAT DIGITAL ASSET USED CHAINLINKS OPEN SOURCE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE A BETTER SOLUTION FOR THE ACCORD PROJECT. FUCK WAKE UP YOU RETARDS, GOOGLE DIDN'T EVEN ENDORSE CHAINLINK ONE OF THEIR DEVS DID.

[Anonymous No.14278488]

>>14278448
>>14278464
Way before Chainlink in fact: https://twitter.com/accordhq/status/949144525376708608

[Anonymous No.14278497]

>>14278464
QNT IS ACTUAL INTEROPERABILITY, LINK IS A MEME.

STUPID LINKIES SAID QNT WOULD LOSE THE BATTLE OF MAKING BLOCKCHAINS CONNECT TO EACH OTHER BUT THINK AGAIN YOU STINKY FUCKS

[Anonymous No.14278515]

>>14278488
SO WHY ARE YOU FUCKING CONFIDENT KEK BOY? QNT IS GOING TO MAKE LINK OBSOLETE AS ENTERPRISES ATTACH THEIR DATA TO BLOCKCHAINS RATHER THAN TRADITIONAL APIS.

READEM AND WEEP YOU FUCK HEADS

[Anonymous No.14278531]

>>14278497
All credibility: lost

[Anonymous No.14278552]

>>14278531
IMAGINE THINKING LINK WILL BEAT QNT.

>but link allows blockchains to speak to each other

QNT IS BETTER FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.14278567]

QUANT IS ACTUALLY NECESSARY FOR THE FUTURE OF BLOCKCHAIN.

LINK IS A FUCKING BAND-AID

[Anonymous No.14278606]

>>14278567
All those caps and all you managed to express is desperation

> And remember sirs!!!
> Do not leave your wallet to WANT
> Buy some more QUANT!!!

[Anonymous No.14278628]

>>14278552
>>but link allows blockchains to speak to each other
lmao, that's probably the least talked about use case for Chainlink

[Anonymous No.14278660]

>>14277336
Stop posting Zelda memes. Its embarrassing to institutional Chainlinkers.

[Anonymous No.14278668]

>>14278606
I'll calm down, I sold 60K link in september 2018 for QNT actual reading into Gilbert's work with the EU government and banks.

It became very clear that QNT was positioning itself to take everything from LINK. QNT will allow companies to use their own data feeds to supply oracle data by signing the data to multiple chains through overledger, the redundancies will allow for security and in the end Oracles will be built into the overledger OS as it grows and has more companies integrate their systems eg. SIA.

I get it, you like meming on 4chan with your fourchanner friends but in reality you and I both know that Quant is already on the Accord Project website because their functionality is the long term solution to the usage of Smart Contracts.

[Anonymous No.14278689]

>>14278628
Imagine thinking interoperability is a small use case... Ever heard of treaty contracts??

GOOD GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDED

[Anonymous No.14278691]

>>14278660
he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.14278706]

>>14278689
Not what I said brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14278766]

>>14278660
>spongebob poster tells someone to stop posting Zelda
Lol, leave you shitskin

[Anonymous No.14278782]

>>14278668
> o-okay I'll calm down
> so uhhhhh qnt will take everything from link totally because gilbert is doing work with the EU and banks and dude trust me bro
> qnts overledger is super unique and special and oracles will be built into the overledger and then link will be dead if you just ignore everything about link and what it does
> I totally get you bro, I used to be a fellow linkie but now I'm going to make some generalizations
> you and I - (oh god that made my eyes roll)
etc etc
Jesus, just go back to all caps faggot. You actually sounded less retarded when you were doing that.

[Anonymous No.14278890]

>>14278782
>he think's I own QNT

[Anonymous No.14278935]

>>14278890
Oh wow ya sure showed me! Good bait!!!111!!!

[Anonymous No.14279115]

>>14277233
>the exchange api still remains
This is all fine and old fud. Read the whitepaper, you don't understand how this is all going to work. Are you going to use the "refrigerated truck drivers can provide fake data from their temperature meters" next?